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Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
December 02 2013 22:51 GMT
#321
Well in the following weeks his stream numbers will go up for sure.
SolidSMD
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium408 Posts
December 02 2013 22:59 GMT
#322
On December 03 2013 07:49 JustPassingBy wrote:
How comes he still has such a high bonus pool of 200pt+ after 24 games? :o
I played like a single game in the beginning of the season and now only have 340pt...


Higher leagues have higher bonus pools if i'm not mistaken. When you get promoted, you also get the amount of bonus points that you missed out on in lower leagues.
Working on Starbow!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 23:15:39
December 02 2013 23:15 GMT
#323
On December 03 2013 07:59 SolidSMD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 07:49 JustPassingBy wrote:
How comes he still has such a high bonus pool of 200pt+ after 24 games? :o
I played like a single game in the beginning of the season and now only have 340pt...


Higher leagues have higher bonus pools if i'm not mistaken. When you get promoted, you also get the amount of bonus points that you missed out on in lower leagues.


But didn't he start at a low league and only started playing more games on that acount today? But nevermind, I think I recall watching him playing some unranked games, they obviously leave your bonus pool untouched while they are still listed in that statistics.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
December 02 2013 23:15 GMT
#324
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
December 02 2013 23:19 GMT
#325
On December 03 2013 08:15 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.



You think people can't think for themselves after losing to protoss on ladder that they hate protoss?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 02 2013 23:20 GMT
#326
On December 03 2013 08:15 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.


Meh, should I ever hate on protoss, though I try not to and seriously hope that I never will, it's because the German national league EPS is flooded with them. Even if you take out the prominent players Hasuobs and Socke, you will still find a lot more skilled protoss players (Showtime, Tarrantius, Acro, Monty, Knowme, CPU) than terran players (Heromarine, kauP, Krass, Goody) or zerg players (Hanfy, Salt, Delphi).
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 23:25:17
December 02 2013 23:24 GMT
#327
On December 03 2013 08:20 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:15 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.


Meh, should I ever hate on protoss, though I try not to and seriously hope that I never will, it's because the German national league EPS is flooded with them. Even if you take out the prominent players Hasuobs and Socke, you will still find a lot more skilled protoss players (Showtime, Tarrantius, Acro, Monty, Knowme, CPU) than terran players (Heromarine, kauP, Krass, Goody) or zerg players (Hanfy, Salt, Delphi).


If you hate protoss, you hate 33% of the game. But the problem is not the hate directed to the race per se, but hating the person that play the race.

I play protoss on NA ladder and the past weeks having been anything but pleasant. I'm almost blocking all the terran players in the beginning in the game to avoid the almost certain "die protoss faggot", "i really wish you get cancer stupid piece of crap", "you would be gold playing a real race noob"....
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
December 02 2013 23:28 GMT
#328
On December 03 2013 08:24 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:20 JustPassingBy wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:15 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.


Meh, should I ever hate on protoss, though I try not to and seriously hope that I never will, it's because the German national league EPS is flooded with them. Even if you take out the prominent players Hasuobs and Socke, you will still find a lot more skilled protoss players (Showtime, Tarrantius, Acro, Monty, Knowme, CPU) than terran players (Heromarine, kauP, Krass, Goody) or zerg players (Hanfy, Salt, Delphi).


If you hate protoss, you hate 33% of the game. But the problem is not the hate directed to the race per se, but hating the person that play the race.

I play protoss on NA ladder and the past weeks having been anything but pleasant. I'm almost blocking all the terran players in the beginning in the game to avoid the almost certain "die protoss faggot", "i really wish you get cancer stupid piece of crap", "you would be gold playing a real race noob"....

Game is unfair -> people get real frustrated. Pretty simple.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12571 Posts
December 02 2013 23:35 GMT
#329
On December 03 2013 08:15 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.


It's not really 'lately', it's always been the same. Weren't you there when protoss was the "ghey" race at the end of 2010, or when terrans would abuse us every game at the end of 2012 even though no protoss had figured out what to do against ghost viking yet?

It's frequent for a game to contain something to loathe, so that the majority of players can ally against it. It just happens to be protoss in SC2's case.
No will to live, no wish to die
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 23:37:26
December 02 2013 23:35 GMT
#330
storm good spell.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
December 02 2013 23:40 GMT
#331
On December 03 2013 08:28 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:24 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:20 JustPassingBy wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:15 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.


Meh, should I ever hate on protoss, though I try not to and seriously hope that I never will, it's because the German national league EPS is flooded with them. Even if you take out the prominent players Hasuobs and Socke, you will still find a lot more skilled protoss players (Showtime, Tarrantius, Acro, Monty, Knowme, CPU) than terran players (Heromarine, kauP, Krass, Goody) or zerg players (Hanfy, Salt, Delphi).


If you hate protoss, you hate 33% of the game. But the problem is not the hate directed to the race per se, but hating the person that play the race.

I play protoss on NA ladder and the past weeks having been anything but pleasant. I'm almost blocking all the terran players in the beginning in the game to avoid the almost certain "die protoss faggot", "i really wish you get cancer stupid piece of crap", "you would be gold playing a real race noob"....

Game is unfair -> people get real frustrated. Pretty simple.

But it's not our fault. Most of us just chose protoss when the game first came out and stuck to it since. And I'm not even convinced P is op vs T yet anyway.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 23:45:46
December 02 2013 23:42 GMT
#332
On December 03 2013 08:15 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.


Don't worry about that. Guys like Greg always bitched about Protoss. Anyone who remembers his remarks about MC when Bosstoss was running good should know this. Don't hate the player; hate the game ha. If I were on the other end of it I'd just ask, "Why do you still play then? Oh that's right because this is your livelihood." If you aren't passionate about what you're playing then it's time to switch things up if you really want to be happy in life. Otherwise, you're just on borrowed time.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 23:45:09
December 02 2013 23:44 GMT
#333
On December 03 2013 08:28 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:24 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:20 JustPassingBy wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:15 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.


Meh, should I ever hate on protoss, though I try not to and seriously hope that I never will, it's because the German national league EPS is flooded with them. Even if you take out the prominent players Hasuobs and Socke, you will still find a lot more skilled protoss players (Showtime, Tarrantius, Acro, Monty, Knowme, CPU) than terran players (Heromarine, kauP, Krass, Goody) or zerg players (Hanfy, Salt, Delphi).


If you hate protoss, you hate 33% of the game. But the problem is not the hate directed to the race per se, but hating the person that play the race.

I play protoss on NA ladder and the past weeks having been anything but pleasant. I'm almost blocking all the terran players in the beginning in the game to avoid the almost certain "die protoss faggot", "i really wish you get cancer stupid piece of crap", "you would be gold playing a real race noob"....

Game is unfair -> people get real frustrated. Pretty simple.


I can hate on protoss without hating protoss, if that makes sense. If I'm ever cheering too much for the non-protoss player then that is because I've seen too much protoss already, just because of boredom, not because of balance whine.
RotterdamBlt
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada46 Posts
December 02 2013 23:45 GMT
#334
Terran has gotten their fair share of hate too, 2010 up to queen buff in 2012. Then all of HotS up until WCS season 3.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
December 02 2013 23:45 GMT
#335
On December 03 2013 08:28 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:24 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:20 JustPassingBy wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:15 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.


Meh, should I ever hate on protoss, though I try not to and seriously hope that I never will, it's because the German national league EPS is flooded with them. Even if you take out the prominent players Hasuobs and Socke, you will still find a lot more skilled protoss players (Showtime, Tarrantius, Acro, Monty, Knowme, CPU) than terran players (Heromarine, kauP, Krass, Goody) or zerg players (Hanfy, Salt, Delphi).


If you hate protoss, you hate 33% of the game. But the problem is not the hate directed to the race per se, but hating the person that play the race.

I play protoss on NA ladder and the past weeks having been anything but pleasant. I'm almost blocking all the terran players in the beginning in the game to avoid the almost certain "die protoss faggot", "i really wish you get cancer stupid piece of crap", "you would be gold playing a real race noob"....

Game is unfair -> people get real frustrated. Pretty simple.


When people perceive the game to be unfair*
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2013 23:47 GMT
#336
On December 03 2013 08:19 KingofGods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:15 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.



You think people can't think for themselves after losing to protoss on ladder that they hate protoss?

This is the Internet, where our prejudices affirmed, not contradicted.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Mantaza
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany87 Posts
December 02 2013 23:54 GMT
#337
On December 03 2013 08:40 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 08:28 aTnClouD wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:24 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:20 JustPassingBy wrote:
On December 03 2013 08:15 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:46 Nebuchad wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.


A lot of popular streamers talk shit about protoss. Idra, Destiny, Avilo... I blame this people for the protoss hate that have been around lately.


Meh, should I ever hate on protoss, though I try not to and seriously hope that I never will, it's because the German national league EPS is flooded with them. Even if you take out the prominent players Hasuobs and Socke, you will still find a lot more skilled protoss players (Showtime, Tarrantius, Acro, Monty, Knowme, CPU) than terran players (Heromarine, kauP, Krass, Goody) or zerg players (Hanfy, Salt, Delphi).


If you hate protoss, you hate 33% of the game. But the problem is not the hate directed to the race per se, but hating the person that play the race.

I play protoss on NA ladder and the past weeks having been anything but pleasant. I'm almost blocking all the terran players in the beginning in the game to avoid the almost certain "die protoss faggot", "i really wish you get cancer stupid piece of crap", "you would be gold playing a real race noob"....

Game is unfair -> people get real frustrated. Pretty simple.

But it's not our fault. Most of us just chose protoss when the game first came out and stuck to it since. And I'm not even convinced P is op vs T yet anyway.


ye same playing protoss since broodwar... Dont get these flamer persons and anyway if protoss is OP why did the last tournaments went zerg protoss terran as winner and also taeja destroyed every protoss.
Anyway i hate Pro Gamer that switch so late their race feels odd to me.
Startyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Scotland188 Posts
December 02 2013 23:57 GMT
#338
It is a common issue people seem to have of blaming everything but themselves for a loss when really they only have themselves to blame.

Sjow is a professional player, of course he is going to reach gm, it remains to be seen whether he will make top 50 in a month but we will see.

He once beat Life in a TvZ, he would have to beat (insert top 10 player here) in the later stages of a major tournament to even match what he did with terran. There is some novelty value in seeing a player focus on what was previously an off race, do not fool yourself that it is has anything to do with balance, however satisfying it might be in seeing a terran now play protoss beating terrans.
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
December 02 2013 23:59 GMT
#339
God, I so wish there was a way to go back in time and have stats for things like how many non korean terrans were "x rank." The best terrans, BW or SC 2, always kept winning, while the non korean terrans kept defying statistics (if the game was anywhere close to being balanced in strength between the races). There's 0 difference now. I just can't believe how fervent the imbal people are now or how little anyone mentioned it/cared back in BW. Same deal but completely different responses/views now.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
December 03 2013 00:03 GMT
#340
if he's pvp ain't good he's probably going to be demoted to masters, considering protoss eu numbers
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