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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2013 21:55 GMT
#301
On December 03 2013 06:53 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 06:52 sAsImre wrote:
On December 03 2013 06:49 Plansix wrote:
On December 03 2013 06:46 Hider wrote:
On December 03 2013 06:42 Plansix wrote:
On December 03 2013 06:39 Hider wrote:
On December 03 2013 06:29 Plansix wrote:
On December 03 2013 06:21 Hider wrote:
Given how awfull Sjow actually plays, these games are way too close. If I didn't know it was Sjow playing, I would have thought it was diamond-league level.

Please, 3 cc vs proxy gate is a game that even the most nubby Protoss should win. He got smashed in two other games and only lasted as long as he did because he was against the spoon Terran.


Did you watch G4? That was way too close and Sjow made multiple big mistakes and overall just showed bad mechanics.

I can't , I'm at work. I was commenting on the losing to a proxy gate vs 3cc. You would have to be magic to win as a Terran in that game.


Then why on earth are you commenting on the series and talking about how he got smashed in the 2 other games when you haven't watched them?
Further, your post easily ignored that Sjow won 2 games and not just one.

The live reports made it seem like he lost all the games buy the one wih the proxy gate. I was not aware he won two games, because it sure didn't seem like it from the reports.


On December 03 2013 05:46 scypio wrote:
On December 03 2013 05:43 scypio wrote:
On December 03 2013 05:40 scypio wrote:
On December 03 2013 05:29 scypio wrote:
Sjow POV LR :D

Thorzain vs Sjow g1 Yeonsu LE.
+ Show Spoiler +

0:00 Thorzain spawns top right. Sjow spawns bottom left.
1:55 13gate 14 gas from sjow. second pylon at 15. chronoboosting probes.
3:00 cyber core and second gas otw. No zealot.
4:00 Tzains reaper arrives. Expo eng-bay blocked.
4:33 Sjow kills the reaper with his first stalker.
5:00 3 more gates from Sjow. no expansion still.
6:30 4 gates opening. Thorzain is ready with a bunker and a marauder.
8:00 supply blocked at 41 supply. blinks into main with 8 stalkers.
9:26: blinks in with 16 stalkers. Tzain has medivicas and stim. half of the stalkers die.
10:30 expansion for Sjow building. 53 supply, 13 stalkers with blink.
12:30 Sjow at 62 supply. Tzain with a ton of MMM.


14:20 sjow at 86 supply. building templar archives. Tzain moving out, takes down the MCS. End is nigh.
15:45 Tzain with SCV train? or possibly just taking a fourth.
16:34 SCV train it is. 8+ medivacs, a ton of MM and a ton of scvs. everything dies.

Thorzain vs Sjow g1 Yeonsu LE 1:0


Thorzain vs Sjow g2 Akilon Wastes.
0:00 Sjow spawns top left.
3:00 same gate-gas-core opening from sjow. He makes a zealot this time.

4:20 exp for sjow. Chases away the reaper with first stalker. MSC is out.
5:20 sjow attacks with zealot stalker and MSC. Tzain lifts his nat.
7:15 1gate exp into msc pressure into twiligth into blink. Adding 3 more gates now.
8:15 Tzain drops widow mines and marines. no detection for sjow.
9:35 robo completes, obs starts. blink is done.
11:00 11 stalkers blink into tzains main. He has two tanks, MM and a third CC. All stalkers die. And the msc.
12:30 frontal assault with zealot and stalkers. Somehow he breaks through and Tzain dies. W t f. Sjow is crying.

Thorzain vs Sjow g2 - sjow wins.
1:1


can't read and you accuse the live reporter ?


Maybe I should have written that Thorzain got protossed in G2 :D

Nah, the text was just super small on my phone. My mistake. I apologize for the confusion.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
December 02 2013 22:00 GMT
#302
"I think I figured out PvP" says Sjow right after his oracle goes up to 11 kills and his opponent ggs.

Sjow seems to like oracle in PvP a lot.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
December 02 2013 22:01 GMT
#303
HuK trolling him hard on twitter :p
Push 2 Harder
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2013 22:05 GMT
#304
On December 03 2013 07:00 scypio wrote:
"I think I figured out PvP" says Sjow right after his oracle goes up to 11 kills and his opponent ggs.

Sjow seems to like oracle in PvP a lot.

It's a good way to end the match before you get to the bullshit part. You might not win, but it will be fast.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 22:08:48
December 02 2013 22:07 GMT
#305
Another game and another PvP... opponent goes for a crappy cannon rush, Sjow counters with oracle msc. Rank 24 master.


TvP incoming. The enemy knows it's Sjow. He can watch the stream
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 22:21:07
December 02 2013 22:15 GMT
#306
Sjow is being stomped by mines like a noob, lol.

Edit: His nexuses have full energy.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
December 02 2013 22:21 GMT
#307
On December 03 2013 07:15 darkness wrote:
Sjow is being stomped by mines like a noob, lol.


He is a protoss noob. And got masters in less than a day.

Nice doom drop :D
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
lamprey1
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 22:21:39
December 02 2013 22:21 GMT
#308
On December 03 2013 07:00 scypio wrote:
"I think I figured out PvP" says Sjow right after his oracle goes up to 11 kills and his opponent ggs.

Sjow seems to like oracle in PvP a lot.


like i said much earlier in this thread...
he'll lean on the Oracle the way he leaned on the Banshee...

he can make a Banshee do everything but cook breakfast and do the laundry.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
December 02 2013 22:23 GMT
#309
manner mules... The T had a nice opening and pretty good macro this game.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2013 22:24 GMT
#310
LoL! I tune in to see him get manner muled. Silly Protoss, you don't push out when while securing a 3rd.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
December 02 2013 22:27 GMT
#311
I think it will be tough for him to learn a high enough level pvp in one month to make top 50. I'll bet his pvt will be at that level though.
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
December 02 2013 22:30 GMT
#312
On December 03 2013 07:21 lamprey1 wrote:


he can make a Banshee do everything but cook breakfast and do the laundry.


Pretty sexist remark considering the Banshee pilot is a woman.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2013 22:31 GMT
#313
On December 03 2013 07:27 The_Darkness wrote:
I think it will be tough for him to learn a high enough level pvp in one month to make top 50. I'll bet his pvt will be at that level though.

PvZ is no walk in the park either. He is going to have a lot of games that end in "fuck, mutas"
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 02 2013 22:32 GMT
#314
On December 03 2013 07:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 07:27 The_Darkness wrote:
I think it will be tough for him to learn a high enough level pvp in one month to make top 50. I'll bet his pvt will be at that level though.

PvZ is no walk in the park either. He is going to have a lot of games that end in "fuck, mutas"


Dear Sjow,

If you are reading this watch all of San's games at IEM. Just 4 gate zealot + msc all zergs.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 02 2013 22:33 GMT
#315
On December 03 2013 07:21 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 07:15 darkness wrote:
Sjow is being stomped by mines like a noob, lol.


He is a protoss noob. And got masters in less than a day.

Nice doom drop :D

Any GM player can get Master in less than a day with the other 2 races ~_~.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
December 02 2013 22:37 GMT
#316
5 gates + colossus tech on 1 pylon, the Artosis pylon is strong this game :D
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12389 Posts
December 02 2013 22:42 GMT
#317
On December 03 2013 07:32 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 07:31 Plansix wrote:
On December 03 2013 07:27 The_Darkness wrote:
I think it will be tough for him to learn a high enough level pvp in one month to make top 50. I'll bet his pvt will be at that level though.

PvZ is no walk in the park either. He is going to have a lot of games that end in "fuck, mutas"


Dear Sjow,

If you are reading this watch all of San's games at IEM. Just 4 gate zealot + msc all zergs.


There can only be one Zealotking
No will to live, no wish to die
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
December 02 2013 22:42 GMT
#318
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12389 Posts
December 02 2013 22:46 GMT
#319
On December 03 2013 07:42 Tiaraju9 wrote:
He's doing a big disservice to the community with this. Each game he talks about how he shouldn't be winning and how protoss is imba and stupid and such.

Its just a bad "service" that will increase the protoss hate in our community. Its a very unprofessional way to deal with the game too.


He doesn't have that kind of power. The people who think protoss is shit will keep on thinking it, and the people who don't will keep on just the same. SjoW has been vocal about protoss for a long time.

The way he comments after every game looks a bit forced to me, like he's trying to entertain us the IdrA way. I don't mind it.
No will to live, no wish to die
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 02 2013 22:49 GMT
#320
How comes he still has such a high bonus pool of 200pt+ after 24 games? :o
I played like a single game in the beginning of the season and now only have 340pt...
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