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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3533 Posts
November 27 2013 20:25 GMT
#41
Gogo Grubby! Last you got second at Singapore, time calls for a first!
Also great write-up.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 27 2013 20:28 GMT
#42
On November 28 2013 05:25 DJHelium wrote:
I think one of the EG guys could take WCG, Suppy has always been able to take down top koreans and Xeno has been steadily rising imo. Other than that it looks kinda grim, maybe Scarlett, Happy or Nani has a shot.

How is Sen doing nowadays?

Teamless and hanging around taiwan pounding on everyone in the region.
Glorious SEA doto
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
November 27 2013 20:31 GMT
#43
On November 28 2013 05:15 HeeroFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 05:11 emanresU wrote:
On November 28 2013 05:09 HeeroFX wrote:
well I wil probably stop watching SC 2 when Naniwa and Scarlett call it


Because no one watched Brood War right?



No i just don't have players I am interested in watching. I only care about events that have players I like to watch. That is resonable. I don't watch a TV show I don't like even if its suppose to be good.



I dont get it, if you dont care about watching great players perform, but only about nationality (please correct me if im wrong but thats the impression youre giving) how can you even enjoy watching sc2 in the first place?

Sure koreans are more dominating than ever but at the same time the quality of the games and the playerskills are better than ever before.


sc2 is getting more and more beautiful for each week that goes by, and anyone whos actually a fan of the game would agree with this.
vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
November 27 2013 20:32 GMT
#44
Well written article. The amount and level of Koreans competing abroad have both grown, and that makes it unfair to compare across years. That said, it'd be great to end the year with a major win.

Scarlett is our best bet, though I seriously hope Lucifron goes farther than ever. I love his play, and foreigner terrans just have SO much trouble...
Mvp and ForGG! - Vortix FTW - Never forget Lucifron
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
November 27 2013 20:33 GMT
#45
On November 28 2013 05:31 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 05:15 HeeroFX wrote:
On November 28 2013 05:11 emanresU wrote:
On November 28 2013 05:09 HeeroFX wrote:
well I wil probably stop watching SC 2 when Naniwa and Scarlett call it


Because no one watched Brood War right?



No i just don't have players I am interested in watching. I only care about events that have players I like to watch. That is resonable. I don't watch a TV show I don't like even if its suppose to be good.


sc2 is getting more and more beautiful for each week that goes by, and anyone whos actually a fan of the game would agree with this.

No. There are many fans of the game who do not agree.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 27 2013 20:34 GMT
#46
On November 28 2013 05:15 Fusilero wrote:
The real winner of it all is snute, he can say he was the final foreign champion now.


Ew, not a Norwegian Oh well, happy tomorrow bejayday Fusse.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
November 27 2013 20:34 GMT
#47
GO WORLD
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 27 2013 20:35 GMT
#48
So nailbiting, what will happen in the last 4 minutes?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 27 2013 20:44 GMT
#49
On November 28 2013 05:28 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 05:25 DJHelium wrote:
I think one of the EG guys could take WCG, Suppy has always been able to take down top koreans and Xeno has been steadily rising imo. Other than that it looks kinda grim, maybe Scarlett, Happy or Nani has a shot.

How is Sen doing nowadays?

Teamless and hanging around taiwan pounding on everyone in the region.


Even our western heroes?

And Happy b-day!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
November 27 2013 20:47 GMT
#50
Come on Korea, get that all-kill and claim your place in the world as the undisputed gaming superpower!
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
November 27 2013 20:47 GMT
#51
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GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 27 2013 20:49 GMT
#52
On November 28 2013 05:47 Destructicon wrote:
Come on Korea, get that all-kill and claim your place in the world as the undisputed gaming superpower!


You'd have to be on some pretty heavy shit to not believe that they already are
AdministratorBreak the chains
TinGodzilla
Profile Joined October 2013
United Kingdom65 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 20:53:57
November 27 2013 20:51 GMT
#53
Nice article. It is indeed a sad state of affairs, but perhaps we simply need to be patient. It is no secret that Korean cultures general acceptance of gaming is far greater than ours (the west) and that we are far behind. However what is also clear is that our culture is becoming more and more accepting and consequently in a few years we may see Europeans and alike coming through who have been playing just as much as the Koreans and are hence able to compete with them.

My only worry is that such developments will arrive too late for Starcraft 2, but in such a multi-cultural world supporting people from other nationalities is hardly uncommon, as any person who supports a good football team will know! So until there are some 'foreigners' to carry the baton, I will be cheering for my favourite Koreans. I beseech you all to do the same!
Life, Jaedong, Hyun, Impact, Suppy
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
November 27 2013 20:52 GMT
#54
On November 28 2013 05:35 Musicus wrote:
So nailbiting, what will happen in the last 4 minutes?

As the final minutes of the final SC2 tournament takes place, Korean lips will gracefully touch the trophy and trigger a countdown. In those precious few moments foreigner Y2K, Ragnarok, the End will commence as Koreans solidify themselves as the ultimate overlords of SC2.

Or maybe nothing special will happen while Koreans continue to take foreigner money. Great writing by the way stuchiu.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 27 2013 20:54 GMT
#55
Let's not kid ourselves. Foreigners are done and won't be winning another Premier Tournament unless you lock out all the Koreans. That or you find yourself another miracle outlier like Stephano.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 20:56:21
November 27 2013 20:55 GMT
#56
On November 28 2013 05:44 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 05:28 Fusilero wrote:
On November 28 2013 05:25 DJHelium wrote:
I think one of the EG guys could take WCG, Suppy has always been able to take down top koreans and Xeno has been steadily rising imo. Other than that it looks kinda grim, maybe Scarlett, Happy or Nani has a shot.

How is Sen doing nowadays?

Teamless and hanging around taiwan pounding on everyone in the region.


Even our western heroes?

And Happy b-day!

Atm the only player in tesl to beat him in a series is san in the finals of one of the seasons, he's already beaten san in his current tesl group and has beaten sase before.
He's not in the same group as suppy but he does also have TRUE in his group. He never played harstem in Tesl.
Glorious SEA doto
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
November 27 2013 21:04 GMT
#57
i'd say the best chances would be asus or WCG, they have less big obstacles...its gonna be tense tho !
RIP MKP
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
November 27 2013 21:08 GMT
#58
Very good write up And Naniwa will win Dreamhack!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
November 27 2013 21:08 GMT
#59
besides scarlett and naniwa, which foreigner would you really call to have a skill potential that could equal a, let's say, average gsl ro16 player's skill? I don't think there is any.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 27 2013 21:09 GMT
#60
On November 28 2013 05:25 DJHelium wrote:
I think one of the EG guys could take WCG, Suppy has always been able to take down top koreans and Xeno has been steadily rising imo. Other than that it looks kinda grim, maybe Scarlett, Happy or Nani has a shot.

How is Sen doing nowadays?

Sen beat San in TeSL like a day or two after San 2-0d Jaedong and HyuN in the dailymotion cup. San might not always play his best offline but that's still a solid result imo so at least his ZvP should be ok
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