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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
November 27 2013 20:07 GMT
#21
On November 28 2013 04:35 Zealously wrote:
In the words of Chazz Princeton:

You go bye-bye

as in the yugioh anime character?
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18840 Posts
November 27 2013 20:08 GMT
#22
The title made me think of my favorite Boys Like Girls song. The subject matter is decidedly different though.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
November 27 2013 20:08 GMT
#23
Should've waited for 2 more tourneys to write this.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
November 27 2013 20:09 GMT
#24
well I wil probably stop watching SC 2 when Naniwa and Scarlett call it
johnnyapplec
Profile Joined January 2012
United States33 Posts
November 27 2013 20:09 GMT
#25
On November 28 2013 04:51 Enema wrote:
Didn't Xenocider win that one Tournament?

But it was mainly foreigners with some unknown Koreans
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 27 2013 20:10 GMT
#26
TL writers at it
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
emanresU
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany393 Posts
November 27 2013 20:11 GMT
#27
Scarlet at IEM hwaiting~ !
There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things you love. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
emanresU
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany393 Posts
November 27 2013 20:11 GMT
#28
On November 28 2013 05:09 HeeroFX wrote:
well I wil probably stop watching SC 2 when Naniwa and Scarlett call it


Because no one watched Brood War right?
There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things you love. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
November 27 2013 20:11 GMT
#29
Elfi will take NorthCon, don't worry guys
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 27 2013 20:12 GMT
#30
On November 28 2013 04:48 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 04:39 sM.Zik wrote:
Finally the skill level of Starcraft 2 is where it should be


True, true. I think the best chance for a foreigner to win an event now is around lotv release. I feel like a year or two after lotv seeing a foreigner take a map off of a korean in an offline competition will be huge.

Nah cmon, i don't think the gap will ever be so huge that foreigners can't win maps from koreans.
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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
November 27 2013 20:13 GMT
#31
Looking at the players who are playing the final four tounaments, IEM and WCG are almost a 100% gone, maybe Asus/Dreamhack could go the other way arround.

I personally dont absolutly NEED a big foreigner win, koreans produce amazing games ( so do foreigners but a Innovation vs sOs will almost always beat any other game in terms of pure quality) and its fun watching.
Dont get me wrong, Naniwa or any other foreigner winning Dreamhack would be amazing, but its going to be really hard..
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
November 27 2013 20:14 GMT
#32
On November 28 2013 05:12 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 04:48 Lorch wrote:
On November 28 2013 04:39 sM.Zik wrote:
Finally the skill level of Starcraft 2 is where it should be


True, true. I think the best chance for a foreigner to win an event now is around lotv release. I feel like a year or two after lotv seeing a foreigner take a map off of a korean in an offline competition will be huge.

Nah cmon, i don't think the gap will ever be so huge that foreigners can't win maps from koreans.

No, it might take longer than expected but that gap will show as the skill cap for SC2 is raised
¯\_(シ)_/¯
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45167 Posts
November 27 2013 20:14 GMT
#33
This would not be surprising in the least lol.
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
November 27 2013 20:15 GMT
#34
On November 28 2013 05:11 emanresU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 05:09 HeeroFX wrote:
well I wil probably stop watching SC 2 when Naniwa and Scarlett call it


Because no one watched Brood War right?



No i just don't have players I am interested in watching. I only care about events that have players I like to watch. That is resonable. I don't watch a TV show I don't like even if its suppose to be good.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 27 2013 20:15 GMT
#35
The real winner of it all is snute, he can say he was the final foreign champion now.
Glorious SEA doto
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 27 2013 20:17 GMT
#36
On November 28 2013 05:08 NewSunshine wrote:
Should've waited for 2 more tourneys to write this.

Difficult if 3 of them are at the same time.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
November 27 2013 20:18 GMT
#37
TLO TLO TLO

:>
(I would also be equally happy if Scarlett won one)
Zoygot
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada42 Posts
November 27 2013 20:23 GMT
#38
Semi-related but I would love to see another GSL World Championship turn-up again. As entertaining as it was, the logistics of hosting the event and having it start before WCS 2014 might be difficult.

Doesn't hurt to hope anyway.
GreenFate
Profile Joined March 2011
France289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 20:25:08
November 27 2013 20:24 GMT
#39
Korean have no chances, Scarlett has been rising for the past few months, the glory is finally coming !
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 27 2013 20:25 GMT
#40
I think one of the EG guys could take WCG, Suppy has always been able to take down top koreans and Xeno has been steadily rising imo. Other than that it looks kinda grim, maybe Scarlett, Happy or Nani has a shot.

How is Sen doing nowadays?
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