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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:08 boxerfred wrote:
besides scarlett and naniwa, which foreigner would you really call to have a skill potential that could equal a, let's say, average gsl ro16 player's skill? I don't think there is any.
I wouldn't say that Scarlett and Naniwa have what it takes to consistently make GSL Ro16 either.
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Go SjoW! We are all ready for it!
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On November 28 2013 06:04 shid0x wrote:
i'd say the best chances would be asus or WCG, they have less big obstacles...its gonna be tense tho !
WCS has Soulkey, Parting and Sora. Parting looks damn unstoppable at the moment, Soulkey is Soulkey and Sora looks like a a damn strong dark horse for the tournament, I really don't see any foreigner getting first over them.
At ASUS ROG you have you have Innovation, MMA, jjakji, Life, Jaedong, San and Stardust. This is a damn strong korean line-up and even if Scarlett plays her absolute best I don't think she can overcome that competition. Maybe if she meets Jaedong in the finals she has a chance.
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We're dead anyway.. They are one of the main reasons why SC2 is dieing as an E-sport. I've given up on Starcraft for this very reason. I hope you all find enjoyment though.
Cheers
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Bisutopia19269 Posts
We will know on my birthday/pearl harbor day. The implications there are scary then you think.
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On November 28 2013 06:18 MrFUBAR wrote:
We're dead anyway.. They are one of the main reasons why SC2 is dieing as an E-sport. I've given up on Starcraft for this very reason. I hope you all find enjoyment though.
Cheers
Yeah, because broodwar was really a shitty eSport. I wonder where TeamLiquid.net come from, anybody know their past history?
imo sc2 has never been this fun to watch than how it is today.
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I think, although this year looks pretty grim, I think that next year will get better. Why you might ask? There's two facts to consider: talent and practice. I think on the talent side of things, this game is pretty evened up, but with all the team houses, Korea just outpracticed every other region by a large margin this year. As HotS gets figured out more and more, I think some foreigners will catch up and be able to get one or the other tournament win even. That being said: I don't see a foreigner winning one of these four to be honest.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:18 MrFUBAR wrote:
We're dead anyway.. They are one of the main reasons why SC2 is dieing as an E-sport. I've given up on Starcraft for this very reason. I hope you all find enjoyment though.
Cheers
Yeah I'm of the opinion that Koreans should stop winning in LoL as well so that at least one game can stop dying. With how quickly LoL's popularity is waning, I think we've got more than enough proof that one particular country being really good at a game kills it quickly, just like what happened with Brood War.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:27 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 06:18 MrFUBAR wrote:
We're dead anyway.. They are one of the main reasons why SC2 is dieing as an E-sport. I've given up on Starcraft for this very reason. I hope you all find enjoyment though.
Cheers Yeah I'm of the opinion that Koreans should stop winning in LoL as well so that at least one game can stop dying. With how quickly LoL's popularity is waning, I think we've got more than enough proof that one particular country being really good at a game kills it quickly, just like what happened with Brood War.
Good guys samsung ozone, gets owned by Europe at worlds to save league.
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Fun fact, the closest we've come to a foreigner victory in Starcraft 2 WCG was CombatEX in 2012 when he 1-2'd PartinG and almost won the game 3.
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On November 28 2013 06:24 sM.Zik wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 06:18 MrFUBAR wrote:
We're dead anyway.. They are one of the main reasons why SC2 is dieing as an E-sport. I've given up on Starcraft for this very reason. I hope you all find enjoyment though.
Cheers Yeah, because broodwar was really a shitty eSport. I wonder where TeamLiquid.net come from, anybody know their past history? imo sc2 has never been this fun to watch than how it is today.
Although I don't understand that. A foreginer has never won the GSL in sc2, but Grrr won an OSL in BW. An OSL.. in BW
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We need Jinro to come back and save the day. He made it further than any other foreigner in the GSL, Ro4 at one point.
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I think WCG 2013 is probably going to be the best chance for a foreigner champion. Only 3 Koreans are going: Parting, Soulkey and Sora
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:33 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 06:27 Zealously wrote:On November 28 2013 06:18 MrFUBAR wrote:
We're dead anyway.. They are one of the main reasons why SC2 is dieing as an E-sport. I've given up on Starcraft for this very reason. I hope you all find enjoyment though.
Cheers Yeah I'm of the opinion that Koreans should stop winning in LoL as well so that at least one game can stop dying. With how quickly LoL's popularity is waning, I think we've got more than enough proof that one particular country being really good at a game kills it quickly, just like what happened with Brood War. Good guys samsung ozone, gets owned by Europe at worlds to save league.
Dade saved MVP, Samshung and the LoL scene in just one week.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 28 2013 06:40 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 06:24 sM.Zik wrote:On November 28 2013 06:18 MrFUBAR wrote:
We're dead anyway.. They are one of the main reasons why SC2 is dieing as an E-sport. I've given up on Starcraft for this very reason. I hope you all find enjoyment though.
Cheers Yeah, because broodwar was really a shitty eSport. I wonder where TeamLiquid.net come from, anybody know their past history? imo sc2 has never been this fun to watch than how it is today. Although I don't understand that. A foreginer has never won the GSL in sc2, but Grrr won an OSL in BW. An OSL.. in BW
BW was in a very different place in 2000 compared to SC2 in 2010. People essentially didn't know how to play Starcraft, whereas Starcraft II had a higher level of play right from the start.
On November 28 2013 06:41 astray71 wrote:
I think WCG 2013 is probably going to be the best chance for a foreigner champion. Only 3 Koreans are going: Parting, Soulkey and Sora
That's a little like saying European teams would have a good chance at winning a basketball tournament because Miami Heat and LA Lakers are the only two American teams attending D:
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Well since Jaedong wins DH and Asus ROG, in reality there is only IEM and WCG for the foreigners. But Scarlett might just win IEM. Or Hasu WCG if he gets PvP and not Soulkey.
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Well, quite the article to make us all even more aware that we have no foreigner hero. The "Last Foreign Hope" story line has been drawn out on TL for too long. Does it even matter? We have so many players in this game that we can rally behind, Korean or otherwise.
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On November 28 2013 05:17 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 05:08 NewSunshine wrote:
Should've waited for 2 more tourneys to write this. Difficult if 3 of them are at the same time.
Well yeah, you'd have to have some good timing to pull it off.
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This was a great read. It is real sad it's so true.
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On November 28 2013 05:15 HeeroFX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2013 05:11 emanresU wrote:On November 28 2013 05:09 HeeroFX wrote:
well I wil probably stop watching SC 2 when Naniwa and Scarlett call it Because no one watched Brood War right? No i just don't have players I am interested in watching. I only care about events that have players I like to watch. That is resonable. I don't watch a TV show I don't like even if its suppose to be good.
While I get your point (though I find it somewhat weird as you argue with a players play being enjoyable yet there are plenty koreans who play similiar to naniwa/scarlett) your comparison does not work. If you say you don't watch an event because there is no player you enjoy watching attending that event then that'd be the same as not watching a tv show because it features no actor you enjoy.
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