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On November 24 2013 19:07 RESOqub wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 10:22 Cereb wrote:
Wooow. If she leaves...That would be a disaster for the SC2 scene :S
If I were Blizzard I secretly pay her money to have her stay. She is worth so much for the scene. Maybe giving all the money in SC2 to one nation for an entire year wasn't the best idea.
Scarlett and Naniwa are really the only ones at high level Korean play. Would be a shame losing 50 % of that!
I can understand getting bored of this / any game when you play it too much. I tried playing SC2 full time for just like 2 months and I was exhausted and bored even though I love the game and wanted to compete. Your body starts to hurt as well, it's really tough and when you can't even get the glory of getting a tournament win despite being top 2 non-Korean player...It has got to be tough. I actually happen to agree with this solely on one basis. She's a transgender gamer who also happens to be the best foreign scene player by an absolute country mile. In a scene filled with complete scumbags (including several virtually venerated on this forum) and enough testosterone to sink a sperm donation liner, she is a decent, caring, completely out of the ordinary member of a minority. There's a good reason why she gets more attention than the ten top LoL teams get from the mainstream media. She is unique in a way no group of screaming broish-ballbags will ever be.
Ironically, one of the main reason she gets so much attention is because she's a transgender. She doesn't have the crazy personality of Stephano, the great sense of humour of InControl or the charisma of Tasteless. From what I've seen and heard of her so far, she looks like a relatively introverted person that doesn't like being the centre of attention but she involuntarily is because she's a transgender. If she weren't, she'd just be any other foreigner that manages to take a series from a Korean once in a while, not that different from let's say Nerchio or Snute.
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Until Scarlett comes out and says, "I'm hanging up my keyboard and mouse, I've played my last game of SC2" I won't believe it. And even then the scene was around before Scarlett the scene will be around after Scarlett. There will be another Foreigner hope it's just the who if not when. Maybe its because I am not an ultra fan boy, actually to be fair I'm not really a fan of Scarlett's at all, but I am entirely indifferent to the decision of retirement. If Scarlett retired tomorrow I'd say, "such is life" (Forgot how to spell that in french and didn't want to butcher it.) And in a weeks time we'd all move on and prop up a new idol.
The reality is, we'd be much more affected by certain personalities retiring then by players. For instance of Incontrol said, "Fuck it guys, I'm done with the community and content, Anna and I are gonna work on having kids, Peace out." we would honestly miss him. If JP were to say, "You know what guys I'm going back to University to study the art of interpretive dance, so I wont be streaming or making content." We would notice that, or if the owners of TL were to say, "Were shutting down the website because we can, less QQ more Pew Pew." We would feel a genuine affect. Reality is; Scarlett's departure would be a small ripple on the community a big one for the super fan's but we would all move on. Players come and go, they have their primes, and they fall down, but our established personalities, well they are the all comforting pablum that the community needs.
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depends on how much money she's making.
being bored is one thing, having a job is another. if she makes anything close to an average yearly salary for a 20-something, she will be back, period. She'll try to do a 9-to-5, and she will see how different taking shit from your boss is from taking adoration from her fans and she'll be back. Fun has nothing to do with it.
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On November 24 2013 19:19 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 19:07 RESOqub wrote:On November 24 2013 10:22 Cereb wrote:
Wooow. If she leaves...That would be a disaster for the SC2 scene :S
If I were Blizzard I secretly pay her money to have her stay. She is worth so much for the scene. Maybe giving all the money in SC2 to one nation for an entire year wasn't the best idea.
Scarlett and Naniwa are really the only ones at high level Korean play. Would be a shame losing 50 % of that!
I can understand getting bored of this / any game when you play it too much. I tried playing SC2 full time for just like 2 months and I was exhausted and bored even though I love the game and wanted to compete. Your body starts to hurt as well, it's really tough and when you can't even get the glory of getting a tournament win despite being top 2 non-Korean player...It has got to be tough. I actually happen to agree with this solely on one basis. She's a transgender gamer who also happens to be the best foreign scene player by an absolute country mile. In a scene filled with complete scumbags (including several virtually venerated on this forum) and enough testosterone to sink a sperm donation liner, she is a decent, caring, completely out of the ordinary member of a minority. There's a good reason why she gets more attention than the ten top LoL teams get from the mainstream media. She is unique in a way no group of screaming broish-ballbags will ever be. Ironically, one of the main reason she gets so much attention is because she's a transgender. She doesn't have the crazy personality of Stephano, the great sense of humour of InControl or the charisma of Tasteless. From what I've seen and heard of her so far, she looks like a relatively introverted person that doesn't like being the centre of attention but she involuntarily is because she's a transgender. If she weren't, she'd just be any other foreigner that manages to take a series from a Korean once in a while, not that different from let's say Nerchio or Snute.
This is total bullshit. She had a couple thousand twitter followers even after her break out performance at ipl. It wasnt till several months later and several more top finishes that she gained her 20k twitter followers. She is one of the most dedicated foreigners out there (only reason shes not practicing in Korea right now is nobody would take her in). Shes given this game her life and won every fan from one spectacular performance after another.
Now some idiot comes on here and says shes only popular cuz shes trans. Go educate yourself buddy.
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TIL "one of the main" = "only".
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On November 24 2013 20:33 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 19:19 maartendq wrote:On November 24 2013 19:07 RESOqub wrote:On November 24 2013 10:22 Cereb wrote:
Wooow. If she leaves...That would be a disaster for the SC2 scene :S
If I were Blizzard I secretly pay her money to have her stay. She is worth so much for the scene. Maybe giving all the money in SC2 to one nation for an entire year wasn't the best idea.
Scarlett and Naniwa are really the only ones at high level Korean play. Would be a shame losing 50 % of that!
I can understand getting bored of this / any game when you play it too much. I tried playing SC2 full time for just like 2 months and I was exhausted and bored even though I love the game and wanted to compete. Your body starts to hurt as well, it's really tough and when you can't even get the glory of getting a tournament win despite being top 2 non-Korean player...It has got to be tough. I actually happen to agree with this solely on one basis. She's a transgender gamer who also happens to be the best foreign scene player by an absolute country mile. In a scene filled with complete scumbags (including several virtually venerated on this forum) and enough testosterone to sink a sperm donation liner, she is a decent, caring, completely out of the ordinary member of a minority. There's a good reason why she gets more attention than the ten top LoL teams get from the mainstream media. She is unique in a way no group of screaming broish-ballbags will ever be. Ironically, one of the main reason she gets so much attention is because she's a transgender. She doesn't have the crazy personality of Stephano, the great sense of humour of InControl or the charisma of Tasteless. From what I've seen and heard of her so far, she looks like a relatively introverted person that doesn't like being the centre of attention but she involuntarily is because she's a transgender. If she weren't, she'd just be any other foreigner that manages to take a series from a Korean once in a while, not that different from let's say Nerchio or Snute. Go educate yourself buddy.
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On November 24 2013 20:33 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 19:19 maartendq wrote:On November 24 2013 19:07 RESOqub wrote:On November 24 2013 10:22 Cereb wrote:
Wooow. If she leaves...That would be a disaster for the SC2 scene :S
If I were Blizzard I secretly pay her money to have her stay. She is worth so much for the scene. Maybe giving all the money in SC2 to one nation for an entire year wasn't the best idea.
Scarlett and Naniwa are really the only ones at high level Korean play. Would be a shame losing 50 % of that!
I can understand getting bored of this / any game when you play it too much. I tried playing SC2 full time for just like 2 months and I was exhausted and bored even though I love the game and wanted to compete. Your body starts to hurt as well, it's really tough and when you can't even get the glory of getting a tournament win despite being top 2 non-Korean player...It has got to be tough. I actually happen to agree with this solely on one basis. She's a transgender gamer who also happens to be the best foreign scene player by an absolute country mile. In a scene filled with complete scumbags (including several virtually venerated on this forum) and enough testosterone to sink a sperm donation liner, she is a decent, caring, completely out of the ordinary member of a minority. There's a good reason why she gets more attention than the ten top LoL teams get from the mainstream media. She is unique in a way no group of screaming broish-ballbags will ever be. Ironically, one of the main reason she gets so much attention is because she's a transgender. She doesn't have the crazy personality of Stephano, the great sense of humour of InControl or the charisma of Tasteless. From what I've seen and heard of her so far, she looks like a relatively introverted person that doesn't like being the centre of attention but she involuntarily is because she's a transgender. If she weren't, she'd just be any other foreigner that manages to take a series from a Korean once in a while, not that different from let's say Nerchio or Snute. This is total bullshit. She had a couple thousand twitter followers even after her break out performance at ipl. It wasnt till several months later and several more top finishes that she gained her 20k twitter followers. She is one of the most dedicated foreigners out there (only reason shes not practicing in Korea right now is nobody would take her in). Shes given this game her life and won every fan from one spectacular performance after another. Now some idiot comes on here and says shes only popular cuz shes trans. Go educate yourself buddy.
I never said that she was popular because she's a transsexual, I said that it's the main reason she gets as much attention as she does. She's probably not the only foreigner with 20,000+ followers on twitter.
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All this cis-splaining is fucking hilarious, or it would be if it wasn't so tragic.
Scarlett is the easiest player to be a fan of by a country mile, and I hope she keeps playing something, because it might be difficult to be a fan of Office worker Scarlett.
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On November 24 2013 19:43 1Dhalism wrote:
depends on how much money she's making.
being bored is one thing, having a job is another. if she makes anything close to an average yearly salary for a 20-something, she will be back, period. She'll try to do a 9-to-5, and she will see how different taking shit from your boss is from taking adoration from her fans and she'll be back. Fun has nothing to do with it.
Sheep mentality. Lots of people quit poker despite the fact that they made significant amounts of money doing it. There are plenty of people who realize you only have one life to live and who don't want to squander it doing something that isn't meaningful. Money isn't everything. Not everyone agrees that the only option in life is to be a slave to what's most profitable financially in the immediate.
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On November 24 2013 22:32 Kerotan wrote:
All this cis-splaining is fucking hilarious, or it would be if it wasn't so tragic.
Scarlett is the easiest player to be a fan of by a country mile, and I hope she keeps playing something, because it might be difficult to be a fan of Office worker Scarlett.
Cis-splaining? :s New phrase to me sorry.
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On November 24 2013 20:33 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 19:19 maartendq wrote:On November 24 2013 19:07 RESOqub wrote:On November 24 2013 10:22 Cereb wrote:
Wooow. If she leaves...That would be a disaster for the SC2 scene :S
If I were Blizzard I secretly pay her money to have her stay. She is worth so much for the scene. Maybe giving all the money in SC2 to one nation for an entire year wasn't the best idea.
Scarlett and Naniwa are really the only ones at high level Korean play. Would be a shame losing 50 % of that!
I can understand getting bored of this / any game when you play it too much. I tried playing SC2 full time for just like 2 months and I was exhausted and bored even though I love the game and wanted to compete. Your body starts to hurt as well, it's really tough and when you can't even get the glory of getting a tournament win despite being top 2 non-Korean player...It has got to be tough. I actually happen to agree with this solely on one basis. She's a transgender gamer who also happens to be the best foreign scene player by an absolute country mile. In a scene filled with complete scumbags (including several virtually venerated on this forum) and enough testosterone to sink a sperm donation liner, she is a decent, caring, completely out of the ordinary member of a minority. There's a good reason why she gets more attention than the ten top LoL teams get from the mainstream media. She is unique in a way no group of screaming broish-ballbags will ever be. Ironically, one of the main reason she gets so much attention is because she's a transgender. She doesn't have the crazy personality of Stephano, the great sense of humour of InControl or the charisma of Tasteless. From what I've seen and heard of her so far, she looks like a relatively introverted person that doesn't like being the centre of attention but she involuntarily is because she's a transgender. If she weren't, she'd just be any other foreigner that manages to take a series from a Korean once in a while, not that different from let's say Nerchio or Snute. This is total bullshit. She had a couple thousand twitter followers even after her break out performance at ipl. It wasnt till several months later and several more top finishes that she gained her 20k twitter followers. She is one of the most dedicated foreigners out there (only reason shes not practicing in Korea right now is nobody would take her in). Shes given this game her life and won every fan from one spectacular performance after another. Now some idiot comes on here and says shes only popular cuz shes trans. Go educate yourself buddy.
I don't think he was saying that at all. He was saying that Scarlett is an introverted person. I'll put it to you this way, if Scarlett was Korean and not transgendered would we care? To me Scarlett would be a faceless Korean not a strong personality like an MC. But Scarlett's a Canadian and somewhat skilled, still Scarlett wouldn't stand out from the foreigner zergs. Add the transgender aspect in and suddenly Scarlett stands out much more. And a few thousand twitter followers doesn't mean that much, its not a huge social reach, I'm fairly certain that Catz had more at that point with the results he had. Personality means quite abit more and Scarlett doesn't really show that much because that is Scarlett's personality.
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On November 25 2013 07:21 B_Type13X2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 20:33 TRaFFiC wrote:On November 24 2013 19:19 maartendq wrote:On November 24 2013 19:07 RESOqub wrote:On November 24 2013 10:22 Cereb wrote:
Wooow. If she leaves...That would be a disaster for the SC2 scene :S
If I were Blizzard I secretly pay her money to have her stay. She is worth so much for the scene. Maybe giving all the money in SC2 to one nation for an entire year wasn't the best idea.
Scarlett and Naniwa are really the only ones at high level Korean play. Would be a shame losing 50 % of that!
I can understand getting bored of this / any game when you play it too much. I tried playing SC2 full time for just like 2 months and I was exhausted and bored even though I love the game and wanted to compete. Your body starts to hurt as well, it's really tough and when you can't even get the glory of getting a tournament win despite being top 2 non-Korean player...It has got to be tough. I actually happen to agree with this solely on one basis. She's a transgender gamer who also happens to be the best foreign scene player by an absolute country mile. In a scene filled with complete scumbags (including several virtually venerated on this forum) and enough testosterone to sink a sperm donation liner, she is a decent, caring, completely out of the ordinary member of a minority. There's a good reason why she gets more attention than the ten top LoL teams get from the mainstream media. She is unique in a way no group of screaming broish-ballbags will ever be. Ironically, one of the main reason she gets so much attention is because she's a transgender. She doesn't have the crazy personality of Stephano, the great sense of humour of InControl or the charisma of Tasteless. From what I've seen and heard of her so far, she looks like a relatively introverted person that doesn't like being the centre of attention but she involuntarily is because she's a transgender. If she weren't, she'd just be any other foreigner that manages to take a series from a Korean once in a while, not that different from let's say Nerchio or Snute. This is total bullshit. She had a couple thousand twitter followers even after her break out performance at ipl. It wasnt till several months later and several more top finishes that she gained her 20k twitter followers. She is one of the most dedicated foreigners out there (only reason shes not practicing in Korea right now is nobody would take her in). Shes given this game her life and won every fan from one spectacular performance after another. Now some idiot comes on here and says shes only popular cuz shes trans. Go educate yourself buddy. I don't think he was saying that at all. He was saying that Scarlett is an introverted person. I'll put it to you this way, if Scarlett was Korean and not transgendered would we care? To me Scarlett would be a faceless Korean not a strong personality like an MC. But Scarlett's a Canadian and somewhat skilled, still Scarlett wouldn't stand out from the foreigner zergs. Add the transgender aspect in and suddenly Scarlett stands out much more. And a few thousand twitter followers doesn't mean that much, its not a huge social reach, I'm fairly certain that Catz had more at that point with the results he had. Personality means quite abit more and Scarlett doesn't really show that much because that is Scarlett's personality.
I don't know what you're trying to prove or say. You're probably just another closet bigot. You seem to be highly confused about what a personality is. A person can be shy and still have a great personality. Saying Koreans are faceless is just flat out racist.
Did you just call Scarlett somewhat skilled? You do realize she just beat bomber 2-1, sos 2-3 (after going 2-0 then losing 3 in a row) and 2-0 vs mc. In the game vs mc, mc was dominated so badly she looked like she was playing a different game. You would think that her accomplishments as a player would make you at least respect Scarlett for her skill, but alas bigots can never see past their nose.
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On November 25 2013 07:39 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 07:21 B_Type13X2 wrote:On November 24 2013 20:33 TRaFFiC wrote:On November 24 2013 19:19 maartendq wrote:On November 24 2013 19:07 RESOqub wrote:On November 24 2013 10:22 Cereb wrote:
Wooow. If she leaves...That would be a disaster for the SC2 scene :S
If I were Blizzard I secretly pay her money to have her stay. She is worth so much for the scene. Maybe giving all the money in SC2 to one nation for an entire year wasn't the best idea.
Scarlett and Naniwa are really the only ones at high level Korean play. Would be a shame losing 50 % of that!
I can understand getting bored of this / any game when you play it too much. I tried playing SC2 full time for just like 2 months and I was exhausted and bored even though I love the game and wanted to compete. Your body starts to hurt as well, it's really tough and when you can't even get the glory of getting a tournament win despite being top 2 non-Korean player...It has got to be tough. I actually happen to agree with this solely on one basis. She's a transgender gamer who also happens to be the best foreign scene player by an absolute country mile. In a scene filled with complete scumbags (including several virtually venerated on this forum) and enough testosterone to sink a sperm donation liner, she is a decent, caring, completely out of the ordinary member of a minority. There's a good reason why she gets more attention than the ten top LoL teams get from the mainstream media. She is unique in a way no group of screaming broish-ballbags will ever be. Ironically, one of the main reason she gets so much attention is because she's a transgender. She doesn't have the crazy personality of Stephano, the great sense of humour of InControl or the charisma of Tasteless. From what I've seen and heard of her so far, she looks like a relatively introverted person that doesn't like being the centre of attention but she involuntarily is because she's a transgender. If she weren't, she'd just be any other foreigner that manages to take a series from a Korean once in a while, not that different from let's say Nerchio or Snute. This is total bullshit. She had a couple thousand twitter followers even after her break out performance at ipl. It wasnt till several months later and several more top finishes that she gained her 20k twitter followers. She is one of the most dedicated foreigners out there (only reason shes not practicing in Korea right now is nobody would take her in). Shes given this game her life and won every fan from one spectacular performance after another. Now some idiot comes on here and says shes only popular cuz shes trans. Go educate yourself buddy. I don't think he was saying that at all. He was saying that Scarlett is an introverted person. I'll put it to you this way, if Scarlett was Korean and not transgendered would we care? To me Scarlett would be a faceless Korean not a strong personality like an MC. But Scarlett's a Canadian and somewhat skilled, still Scarlett wouldn't stand out from the foreigner zergs. Add the transgender aspect in and suddenly Scarlett stands out much more. And a few thousand twitter followers doesn't mean that much, its not a huge social reach, I'm fairly certain that Catz had more at that point with the results he had. Personality means quite abit more and Scarlett doesn't really show that much because that is Scarlett's personality. I don't know what you're trying to prove or say. You're probably just another closet bigot. You seem to be highly confused about what a personality is. A person can be shy and still have a great personality. Saying Koreans are faceless is just flat out racist. Did you just call Scarlett somewhat skilled? You do realize she just beat bomber 2-1, sos 2-3 (after going 2-0 then losing 3 in a row) and 2-0 vs mc. In the game vs mc, mc was dominated so badly she looked like she was playing a different game. You would think that her accomplishments as a player would make you at least respect Scarlett for her skill, but alas bigots can never see past their nose.
I don't know how to say it any clearer then I already have and nothing I said was bigoted. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me one, and I could honestly careless about Scarlett because personality wise I find Scarlett to be about as interesting as a rock. And faceless Korean is a way to describe a player from Korea that is very good but doesn't have a personality that distinguishes them from any of their contemporaries. I'd say Innovation although very good fits this bill perfectly, absolutely polite, never offends anybody, no doubt a good human being but ultimately forgettable if he didn't win.
And yes I did, and that's what Scarlett is somewhat good. Not the best in the world, not the worst in the world, somewhat skilled. I substitute that for mediocre. Today's results not withstanding, I am not going to bow down and say all hail Scarlett because of a good performance. And again I am not being disrespectful I am just not a fan of Scarlett nor am I a hater, I am entirely indifferent to Scarlett and don't care either way. Your far more emotionally invested in Scarlett then I am so your seeing insults and bigotry where there is none. It's okay I get it I am a huge fan of MVP but I realize that he is not perfect and as such I don't run off to white knight for him for the slightest of insults whether they be perceived or actual.
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On November 24 2013 19:43 1Dhalism wrote:
depends on how much money she's making.
being bored is one thing, having a job is another. if she makes anything close to an average yearly salary for a 20-something, she will be back, period. She'll try to do a 9-to-5, and she will see how different taking shit from your boss is from taking adoration from her fans and she'll be back. Fun has nothing to do with it.
To be frank, eSports business offers such little long term stability, I see it hard for people to stay in the business just for the money. Unless you're a "personality" that is...
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Since when does Scarlett have no personality? I enjoy the way she acts in the booth, you can often see her toying with her opponents and having this big grin on her face when things are going well. She has a fun manner in the booth which is pretty rare in general. The way she commentates and talks about games i enjoy too. She actually breaks things down and is willing to actually talk about specific player flaws without necessarily being inflammatory but also without holding back like most people do. She isn't necessarily cocky like an MC but she exudes confidence and it's fun to see especially in a non Korean.
Would she be THIS well recognized if she wasn't a foreigner and wasn't transgender? Of course not. That doesn't instantly make her boring and that doesn't mean she would be a nobody. I'm not sure what the point of that discussion is. There is a specific reason why her accomplishments are held in such high regard (like stephano and naniwa). It's simply harder for a foreigner to reach the same level as a Korean, they don't get the same training and there simply isn't the same structures in place. That plus how often do you see female gamers performing at this level? If she gets slightly more praise than her skill deserves there is nothing wrong with that.
The whole faceless Korean thing is absolute bullsh*t and i can't help but feel there is a bit of a racist undertone to it. Plenty of the Koreans have personality. Bomber, MC, genius, DRG, marineking, leenock etc all show plenty of personality. I think most foreign players are pretty boring except for a select few just like in the Korean scene. The Koreans seem a little more focused but that isn't a bad thing at all.
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Everybody can have his/her own opinion but to call Scarlett "somewhat skilled" or mediocre is just plain wrong. That'd be like me saying "Well, in my opinion 1+1=3".
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On November 25 2013 08:31 Azelja wrote:
Everybody can have his/her own opinion but to call Scarlett "somewhat skilled" or mediocre is just plain wrong. That'd be like me saying "Well, in my opinion 1+1=3".
maybe because I don't look at Scarlett with the reduced expectations of a Foreigner I see Scarlett as an SC2 player not the best foreigner and when compared to her contemporaries; Scarlett is simply somewhat skilled and mediocre. Better then innovation? Better then maru? Better then Dear ? Better then Soulkey? I don't think so, comparing Scarlett to all the other pro-players Scarlett is middle of the pack. I don't see how this is unfair or inaccurate and it certainly doesn't equate to 1+1=3. It is an honest assessment of Scarlett's skills at this point in time.
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On November 25 2013 08:12 B_Type13X2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 07:39 TRaFFiC wrote:On November 25 2013 07:21 B_Type13X2 wrote:On November 24 2013 20:33 TRaFFiC wrote:On November 24 2013 19:19 maartendq wrote:On November 24 2013 19:07 RESOqub wrote:On November 24 2013 10:22 Cereb wrote:
Wooow. If she leaves...That would be a disaster for the SC2 scene :S
If I were Blizzard I secretly pay her money to have her stay. She is worth so much for the scene. Maybe giving all the money in SC2 to one nation for an entire year wasn't the best idea.
Scarlett and Naniwa are really the only ones at high level Korean play. Would be a shame losing 50 % of that!
I can understand getting bored of this / any game when you play it too much. I tried playing SC2 full time for just like 2 months and I was exhausted and bored even though I love the game and wanted to compete. Your body starts to hurt as well, it's really tough and when you can't even get the glory of getting a tournament win despite being top 2 non-Korean player...It has got to be tough. I actually happen to agree with this solely on one basis. She's a transgender gamer who also happens to be the best foreign scene player by an absolute country mile. In a scene filled with complete scumbags (including several virtually venerated on this forum) and enough testosterone to sink a sperm donation liner, she is a decent, caring, completely out of the ordinary member of a minority. There's a good reason why she gets more attention than the ten top LoL teams get from the mainstream media. She is unique in a way no group of screaming broish-ballbags will ever be. Ironically, one of the main reason she gets so much attention is because she's a transgender. She doesn't have the crazy personality of Stephano, the great sense of humour of InControl or the charisma of Tasteless. From what I've seen and heard of her so far, she looks like a relatively introverted person that doesn't like being the centre of attention but she involuntarily is because she's a transgender. If she weren't, she'd just be any other foreigner that manages to take a series from a Korean once in a while, not that different from let's say Nerchio or Snute. This is total bullshit. She had a couple thousand twitter followers even after her break out performance at ipl. It wasnt till several months later and several more top finishes that she gained her 20k twitter followers. She is one of the most dedicated foreigners out there (only reason shes not practicing in Korea right now is nobody would take her in). Shes given this game her life and won every fan from one spectacular performance after another. Now some idiot comes on here and says shes only popular cuz shes trans. Go educate yourself buddy. I don't think he was saying that at all. He was saying that Scarlett is an introverted person. I'll put it to you this way, if Scarlett was Korean and not transgendered would we care? To me Scarlett would be a faceless Korean not a strong personality like an MC. But Scarlett's a Canadian and somewhat skilled, still Scarlett wouldn't stand out from the foreigner zergs. Add the transgender aspect in and suddenly Scarlett stands out much more. And a few thousand twitter followers doesn't mean that much, its not a huge social reach, I'm fairly certain that Catz had more at that point with the results he had. Personality means quite abit more and Scarlett doesn't really show that much because that is Scarlett's personality. I don't know what you're trying to prove or say. You're probably just another closet bigot. You seem to be highly confused about what a personality is. A person can be shy and still have a great personality. Saying Koreans are faceless is just flat out racist. Did you just call Scarlett somewhat skilled? You do realize she just beat bomber 2-1, sos 2-3 (after going 2-0 then losing 3 in a row) and 2-0 vs mc. In the game vs mc, mc was dominated so badly she looked like she was playing a different game. You would think that her accomplishments as a player would make you at least respect Scarlett for her skill, but alas bigots can never see past their nose. I don't know how to say it any clearer then I already have and nothing I said was bigoted. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me one, and I could honestly careless about Scarlett because personality wise I find Scarlett to be about as interesting as a rock. And faceless Korean is a way to describe a player from Korea that is very good but doesn't have a personality that distinguishes them from any of their contemporaries. I'd say Innovation although very good fits this bill perfectly, absolutely polite, never offends anybody, no doubt a good human being but ultimately forgettable if he didn't win. And yes I did, and that's what Scarlett is somewhat good. Not the best in the world, not the worst in the world, somewhat skilled. I substitute that for mediocre. Today's results not withstanding, I am not going to bow down and say all hail Scarlett because of a good performance. And again I am not being disrespectful I am just not a fan of Scarlett nor am I a hater, I am entirely indifferent to Scarlett and don't care either way. Your far more emotionally invested in Scarlett then I am so your seeing insults and bigotry where there is none. It's okay I get it I am a huge fan of MVP but I realize that he is not perfect and as such I don't run off to white knight for him for the slightest of insults whether they be perceived or actual.
Your post just screams "I just want to have an internet argument".
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On November 25 2013 08:44 B_Type13X2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 08:31 Azelja wrote:
Everybody can have his/her own opinion but to call Scarlett "somewhat skilled" or mediocre is just plain wrong. That'd be like me saying "Well, in my opinion 1+1=3". maybe because I don't look at Scarlett with the reduced expectations of a Foreigner I see Scarlett as an SC2 player not the best foreigner and when compared to her contemporaries; Scarlett is simply somewhat skilled and mediocre. Better then innovation? Better then maru? Better then Dear ? Better then Soulkey? I don't think so, comparing Scarlett to all the other pro-players Scarlett is middle of the pack. I don't see how this is unfair or inaccurate and it certainly doesn't equate to 1+1=3. It is an honest assessment of Scarlett's skills at this point in time.
Depends on what you think "mediocre" means. I'd say she's probably in the top ten Zergs and that doesn't sound mediocre at all to me.
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