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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
November 24 2013 01:11 GMT
#101
I hope Scarlett can find a ZvP specialist to help her! She hates that MU as much as NaNiwa hates PvZ.

And sometimes, there are some players who do take a break and come back better ((T)FanTaSy did that and did much better in Proleague and got into Code S).
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
November 24 2013 01:22 GMT
#102
Wooow. If she leaves...That would be a disaster for the SC2 scene :S


If I were Blizzard I secretly pay her money to have her stay. She is worth so much for the scene. Maybe giving all the money in SC2 to one nation for an entire year wasn't the best idea.

Scarlett and Naniwa are really the only ones at high level Korean play. Would be a shame losing 50 % of that!

I can understand getting bored of this / any game when you play it too much. I tried playing SC2 full time for just like 2 months and I was exhausted and bored even though I love the game and wanted to compete. Your body starts to hurt as well, it's really tough and when you can't even get the glory of getting a tournament win despite being top 2 non-Korean player...It has got to be tough.
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 01:25:12
November 24 2013 01:24 GMT
#103
She has been really whining a lot lately about ZvP, she should fix that attitude. No wonder it doesn't make fun when you talked yourself into believing there were severe imbalances.
Get off my lawn, young punks
FlowerBunny
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden187 Posts
November 24 2013 01:29 GMT
#104
On November 24 2013 10:24 ACrow wrote:
She has been really whining a lot lately about ZvP, she should fix that attitude. No wonder it doesn't make fun when you talked yourself into believing there were severe imbalances.


Ignoring the fact that there are severe imbalances
I was a Terran player. I am a Terran player. I will always be a Terran player
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 24 2013 01:32 GMT
#105
On November 24 2013 10:24 ACrow wrote:
She has been really whining a lot lately about ZvP, she should fix that attitude. No wonder it doesn't make fun when you talked yourself into believing there were severe imbalances.

If it's not fun it's not fun. PvZ is fucking horrible. I don't know what she is supposed to do to make it more fun.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Homework
Profile Joined December 2010
United States283 Posts
November 24 2013 01:45 GMT
#106
On November 24 2013 09:47 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 09:28 Homework wrote:
On November 24 2013 08:33 Nerchio wrote:
Mothership core.


Go on...

It's Nerchio being Nerchio. Probably still annoyed he lost 0-4 to Oz.


I can't just chalk up Nerchio to "Nerchio being Nerchio"!
WAAAAAAAAAAIT
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 24 2013 01:51 GMT
#107
Slasher needs to do a follow up interview about how she feels now that she had a top 3 play of the year vs. bomber there.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-24 01:55:21
November 24 2013 01:55 GMT
#108
wrong post, whoops
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
November 24 2013 01:56 GMT
#109
Funny how I don't recall her being so critical in WoL when she Broodlord Infestored all the time :p

That's not really fair, as the impression those comments gave is that it's a frustration with the grind/process of being fulltime than any matchup specific issues.

Hopefully her performance thus far will serve as a a reminder of the good times though
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 24 2013 02:04 GMT
#110
On November 24 2013 10:56 Wombat_NI wrote:
Funny how I don't recall her being so critical in WoL when she Broodlord Infestored all the time :p

That's not really fair, as the impression those comments gave is that it's a frustration with the grind/process of being fulltime than any matchup specific issues.

Hopefully her performance thus far will serve as a a reminder of the good times though

I'm sure it will, until tomorrow when she has to play sOs.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Doc Daneeka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States577 Posts
November 24 2013 02:25 GMT
#111
not that surprising. honestly i'm surprised we don't hear this from more pros. i'd chew my hand off if i had to play as much of any one game as these folks do. thankfully most continue to suffer for my entertainment... it's just a bummer that she's one of my favorite players to watch. hopefully her 'part time' play is still fun to watch even if she doesn't do as well.
payed off security
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
November 24 2013 02:27 GMT
#112
On November 24 2013 09:19 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 07:49 anatase wrote:
about that 2gd comment being oversensitive has nothing to do with being hurt by such impressive comments. He was making fun of someone else too different from him for him to actually understand what its like. that's dickhead and it should not happen on broadcast and not at any tournament. You don't try to push for esport and tolerate such behavior at such a level.

On that basis you'd not be able to make fun of another gender (and a crapload of other situations) either, as that same principle should apply then too.


In general, society would be better if we did not enjoy ridiculing those different from us. I know you think it's normal to attack others, but society is better off without your mind set.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
November 24 2013 02:35 GMT
#113
Perhaps, equally I don't feel here is really the place.

If Scarlett had listed community antagonism as a contributory factor to her frustrations with the game, then for sure let's have that discussion. As it is, in terms of direct interaction (i.e. not Twitch spam) judging from the TL forums Scarlett gets a lot more love than hate.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
November 24 2013 02:41 GMT
#114
Literally doesn't surprise me. NA and EU doesn't have the industry to support pro-gamers full time as a career, and it's not even a stable post-game choice for anyone cause who knows what will happen after Legacy
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
November 24 2013 02:45 GMT
#115
On November 24 2013 03:10 marcesr wrote:
And people still think the new WCS format is good?

We are losing foreigners playing full time all day. Of course Scarlett says that she is bored, but it is obviously also a problem of lacking monetary incentives. The games were a lot worse but the scene was so much more interesting 2 years ago before this Koreans everywhere bullshit started...


This "koreans everywhere bullshit" is the only reason I switched from bw to sc2, like many others did. The skills of games today are so much better than it was before. People that watch Sc2 for "personalities" are definitely not that huge of a fan of the game... I think most real fan of Starcraft want to watch the best games they can, which are obviously played by koreans player. Ive been a fan since 1999 and beside Stephano, not a single foreigners was actually exciting for me to watch because their skills are so lacking compared to the top kespa players. Just had to give you another perspective on this.
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metroid composite
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada231 Posts
November 24 2013 03:11 GMT
#116
Yeah, getting distracted happens.

Like...I was a math grad student, and I love math, but I spent a lot of time getting obsessed about various videogames.

And then I got a job in the game industry, and I love making games, but even there I spend perhaps unhealthy amounts of time on games made by other developers.

And then I look at the pro players and...especially the Koreans, they play so much SC2 that they will play other games when they want to play something for fun. It's not the way I play starcraft 2, where I sometimes screw around with stuff like mass queens in 4v4 just to have fun.

At the end of the day, a job is a job. Sometimes it is hard tedious work, and that's why you get paid to do it.
Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision
Firestorm
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada341 Posts
November 24 2013 03:47 GMT
#117
On November 24 2013 03:10 marcesr wrote:
And people still think the new WCS format is good?

We are losing foreigners playing full time all day. Of course Scarlett says that she is bored, but it is obviously also a problem of lacking monetary incentives. The games were a lot worse but the scene was so much more interesting 2 years ago before this Koreans everywhere bullshit started...


Who exactly have we lost that was worth a lot to the scene and couldn't be replaced?

"Revenge is sweet... Revenge is a dish best served cold... Revenge is... Ice Cream!"
TLNerd
Profile Joined October 2013
Albania26 Posts
November 24 2013 03:47 GMT
#118
burrowed banelings saving e-sports
derpy derp derp derpathon derpskies, amirite?
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12893 Posts
November 24 2013 03:59 GMT
#119
People do grow out of gaming.
Some people don't, some people do.

Why can't the community just accept it when she has pretty much stated the reason clearly? Do we really have to blame it on the game/balance/wcs and just ignore this fact?
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
November 24 2013 04:26 GMT
#120
On November 24 2013 09:40 blackone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 09:19 sumsaR wrote:
On November 24 2013 07:49 anatase wrote:
about that 2gd comment being oversensitive has nothing to do with being hurt by such impressive comments. He was making fun of someone else too different from him for him to actually understand what its like. that's dickhead and it should not happen on broadcast and not at any tournament. You don't try to push for esport and tolerate such behavior at such a level.

On that basis you'd not be able to make fun of another gender (and a crapload of other situations) either, as that same principle should apply then too.


Not making fun of people if you don't know how they'll take it is indeed a good idea when thousands of people are watching you.

Sounds like you just singled out a lot of famous comedians.

On November 24 2013 11:27 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 09:19 sumsaR wrote:
On November 24 2013 07:49 anatase wrote:
about that 2gd comment being oversensitive has nothing to do with being hurt by such impressive comments. He was making fun of someone else too different from him for him to actually understand what its like. that's dickhead and it should not happen on broadcast and not at any tournament. You don't try to push for esport and tolerate such behavior at such a level.

On that basis you'd not be able to make fun of another gender (and a crapload of other situations) either, as that same principle should apply then too.


In general, society would be better if we did not enjoy ridiculing those different from us. I know you think it's normal to attack others, but society is better off without your mind set.

There's a difference between ill-willed personal insults and humorous off-beat comments about someone for laughs. But we obviously disagree, I take it.
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