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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On November 26 2013 04:42 hahablahblah wrote: speaking of scarlett, i have a question. did (s)he go ahead and chop off the dong and 'nads, or is that stuff still intact? also, if the answer is 'no,' does anyone know whether this is planned or not? thanks. Can we ban bullshit like this? | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
I am reasonably sure it will be attended to before long. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:32 Squat wrote: In case you were responding to me, I was making a joke, albeit a poor one. Your previous incarnation is in my sig quote, pretty obvious I enjoy your humour :p | ||
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NHL Fever
Canada104 Posts
On November 24 2013 07:35 habibe wrote: (Constant dehumanizing, reductive, fetishizing jokes made at your expense, never-ending harassment That sounds like typical dialogue in your average sc2 stream or even sc2-related show. The difference in this case is not the level of the trash, it's the person involved. There is a huge double standard in SC2, where the routine description of forced sexual activity as a euphemism for game dominance is defended as 'just the way we talk', but other jokes in that realm are not. If we're too believe the stats, the ratio of people who are sexually assaulted in a year and may be sensitive to comical references to it, compared to the amount who struggle with gender identity, is probably in the 100,000's of thousands. But one of those things has the political sensitivity that the other does not, and that makes the difference. At the end of the day, people are ok with whatever nonsense aligns with their own cultural views and totally crazed about whatever nonsense offends it. That goes for both sides of the argument. | ||
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FuRRie
Belgium815 Posts
 .She provides such fun games, and she is always funny in an awkward way. Her first few interviews were hilariously awkward :D | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On November 26 2013 07:12 Wombat_NI wrote: Your previous incarnation is in my sig quote, pretty obvious I enjoy your humour :p I still have not forgiven you for depriving me of the chance to immortalize you as the most rabid Hero fan ever with a thunderous introduction with that whole biggest fan interview shenanigans. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
On November 26 2013 07:32 NHL Fever wrote: That sounds like typical dialogue in your average sc2 stream or even sc2-related show. The difference in this case is not the level of the trash, it's the person involved. There is a huge double standard in SC2, where the routine description of forced sexual activity as a euphemism for game dominance is defended as 'just the way we talk', but other jokes in that realm are not. If we're too believe the stats, the ratio of people who are sexually assaulted in a year and may be sensitive to comical references to it, compared to the amount who struggle with gender identity, is probably in the 100,000's of thousands. But one of those things has the political sensitivity that the other does not, and that makes the difference. At the end of the day, people are ok with whatever nonsense aligns with their own cultural views and totally crazed about whatever nonsense offends it. That goes for both sides of the argument. The rape issue is actually one that (bar non-public figures) the community is largely expunging. In terms of high end content, when's the last time you heard the use of the word rape in that context? Personally, I don't really see why rape is put on a pedestal in terms of sensitivity when referenced, but that notwithstanding I see the use of analogous references to it as definitely on the decline. | ||
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B_Type13X2
Canada122 Posts
On November 26 2013 02:08 GoldforGolden wrote: @B_Type13X2 you can't just take away one's championships and then judge him. that's like taking away obama's presidency and judge him as another guy with a good public speech talent. innovation has close to perfect robotic play with an extremely high raw skill, with a matching robotic personality, how is that not interesting? Even without his achievements, his raw skill and his personality would have attracted tonnes of fans as well. look at the top 20 WCS point list, who is a faceless pro? Nobody. Everyone has unique personalities and fans. why? because they performed well and fans know them since they always reach high in tournaments and people know them more than the others. they didn't need to be like MC or MKP to be popular, they just need to be themselves, a good player and people will follow/get to know them more. Actually I can in regards to innovation because without his world championship and a handful of interviews; we have a player that is robotic in his execution of the game and shows very little emotional connection to the game. He is very introverted and hard for fan's to relate to. The same could be said for Obama if he wasn't president he would be an obscure Senator. And Innovations robotic style and personality isn't interesting to alot of people because like I stated before it is like watching a really good computer play a person. Few people are interested in that execution of the game outside of admiration for the mechanical cleanliness of it, it doesn't inspire. Look your changing the parameters of the discussion at this point I didn't make specific reference to anyone other then Innovation on that list for my aforementioned reasons. I already defined what a faceless playere/ faceless korean is. And your answering back by saying they need to just be themselves and through our constant exposure to them we will get to know them. Well no kidding, where I work we just hired a new guy I don't know him right now but I'm pretty sure over the next few months I'll probably get to know him. As far as I'm concerned this discussion is over, I've made my point about this topic and don't care to continue debating it when they parameters/ goal lines keep getting moved. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On November 25 2013 21:35 Thieving Magpie wrote: Speaking like 100% of the bigots I know in America. The "if you don't speak/act murican then gtfo my country" philosophy of seeing other human beings. I was in the process of typing up a reply, then noticed the username of the person I was quoting. Please leave TL. Your reading comprehension is nonexistent and you utterly lack the ability to make a post worth looking at. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On November 26 2013 07:50 Wombat_NI wrote: If you ever meet me IRL, I am not exactly Mr Enthusiasm lol, even those titans of humanity like HerO I appreciate from a balanced and reserved emotional distance You're irish, so you are forgiven. I suppose I'd be slightly salty to if whenever a countryman of mine appeared in a movie, it would actually be some bloke from Oklahoma with a horrible fake accent. Fear not though, much like any half decent politician or priest, I never let the truth get in the way of good story. I would sell you as the long lost love-child of Ricky Martin and Taylor Swift, born for the lime light. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
I'd hate for SC2 to lose her, she's the only foreigner left who can stand up to Koreans, next to Naniwa of course. Her almost killing sOs had me on the edge of my seat for the first time in months... | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On November 26 2013 08:09 forsooth wrote: I was in the process of typing up a reply, then noticed the username of the person I was quoting. Please leave TL. Your reading comprehension is nonexistent and you utterly lack the ability to make a post worth looking at. Telling people to speak your language for your benefit is by definition self centered and bigoted. Its not the first time I've heard this type of talk in and out of TL and it won't be the last. People just feel its fine to make these kinds of statements just because its not about immigration policy, but as someone who had to prove that I had learned English or else not be allowed in the USA, I have heard the MANY variations people ask non-natives to change the way they speak. Some sound malicious, some sound friendly. They both mean the same thing. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On November 25 2013 21:35 Thieving Magpie wrote: Speaking like 100% of the bigots I know in America. The "if you don't speak/act murican then gtfo my country" philosophy of seeing other human beings. If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it ought to be good enough for all them chinks to learn. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Vanimar
220 Posts
Yes I know I should favor skill over...blablabla, but that is not how I feel. I want someone to root for who can actually win something rather then do the foreigner first round dropout. So in the end, at least for me, it would be nice if foreigners could start to practice like koreans and win stuff so I can again push money into shirts. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On November 26 2013 08:23 Thieving Magpie wrote: Telling people to speak your language for your benefit is by definition self centered and bigoted. Well, you certainly didn't waste any time proving me absolutely right. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
It was easy to root for MC, or MVP, or MKP, or Nestea and still is for Jaedong, but who the fuck is supposed to keep up with 60+ interchangeable robots who are within .5% skill of each other? I know, Artosis probably has a fun anecdote or interesting fact about each and every one of them, but the average SC2-viewer who watches a couple of hours of a tournament every other week can't distinguish one KESPArian from another. When MC and Scarlett met in this tournament, I didn't know for whom to root, because they're both characters who grew on me for the past two years, but I hadn't even heard of soS or sOo or however the guy is called before he won WCS, so I didn't care if he won the tournament or got hit by a bus. | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On November 26 2013 08:27 Vanimar wrote: I know it's not right, but lately I catch myself ending streams whenever there are no more foreigners (Jaedong and Flash being the exception) in it. It's not logical or anything, I am just terribly bored with an all korean scene I guess. Seing players like scarlet not only adds massively to my sc2 related entertainment, in many events it's the only thing keeping me interested. Yes I know I should favor skill over...blablabla, but that is not how I feel. I want someone to root for who can actually win something rather then do the foreigner first round dropout. So in the end, at least for me, it would be nice if foreigners could start to practice like koreans and win stuff so I can again push money into shirts. I am/was in the same boat. I haven't watched SC2 in months because I'm burned out on Korean domination. Especially in WCS America and Europe. It made things pretty boring to me. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10686 Posts
Before we were able to even see the people we were playing with, the first thing to concern ourselves with is THE GAME. When it becomes more than THE GAME, and more about personal bullshit from all these people who just like to be critics, because they are literally good at nothing else then bickering and argueing over the internet, then that is why this situation arises in the first place. Scarlett I think just wants to ENJOY THE GAME, but she can't because of all these jealous, envious, ignorant and arrogant losers who all feel the need to state there opinion on her sexuality, like wow........ | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2550 Posts
On November 26 2013 08:32 SixStrings wrote: I don't think the problem lies with Koreans destroying foreigners, it's more about faceless KESPA-robots destroying everyone else. They're just "faceless Kespa robots" because you werent a proleague fan. The only reason im still here watching starcraft 2 today is because of these kespa players that I loved and watched for a decade. Really tired of these comments. Y'all should learn to enjoy the beauty of their play, instead of being drama whore. | ||
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