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Top Dragon: Who is the world's best Protoss? - Page 4

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Moonsalt
Profile Joined May 2011
267 Posts
November 10 2013 10:07 GMT
#61
Dear has shown amazing performance at wcs global finals! I vote for him being the best protoss atm
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
November 10 2013 10:10 GMT
#62
Rain was doing so well but then kinda dropped off right around the proleague finals, hopefully he returns to form. sOs is definitely second in my book, overall super solid, great mindgames and strategies, and obviously the world champ deserves respect. I still have to say Dear is the best though. His games just stand out so much more as him not winning through any sort of trickery or mindgames, but just being better than his opponent in all his mechanics.
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Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
November 10 2013 10:22 GMT
#63
PartinG yo!

Soon 10 Code S in a row, talk about consistency. Imo he has the best PvP and PvT.
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
November 10 2013 10:24 GMT
#64
Dear

if only he didn't go for an all-in and just played his solid macro style
Grixx
Profile Joined March 2013
Belgium26 Posts
November 10 2013 11:06 GMT
#65
Even though sOs showed some gamechanging strategies and won the grand finals I think that Dear just plays way more solid and makes better ingame decisions.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 10 2013 11:52 GMT
#66
World's best Protoss?
Dear with coaching from sOs.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3476 Posts
November 10 2013 12:04 GMT
#67
I was pretty sure Dear was the best player in the world, last weekend. This weekend, he actually did some mistakes and we haven't seen too much of his PvP, which should be his worst matchup. sOs actually destroy PvP and he beat Jaedong, which Dear couldn't. Both have amazing PvT, I really don't know, but since sOs is crowned the world champion of SC2, you cannot really argue with that.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 10 2013 12:06 GMT
#68
Nice to see a whole breadth of top players of each race maes it more exciting.
I think Dear is the best toss but sOs entertains me more.
Best zerg Soulkey/Jaedong with players like life and HyuN bringing up the rear.
Terran I think is the toughest to choose from with Inno MMA Maru Bomber Polt leading the pack.
Hmmm imo when Inno is at the top of his game he is the best but Im looking forward to watch Maru improve
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 12:20:20
November 10 2013 12:19 GMT
#69
Today, right now :

#1 : sOs
#2 : Dear
#3 : Rain


Rain is getting back up lately,i've seen some of his game in various qualifiers he plays so good.
RIP MKP
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1923 Posts
November 10 2013 12:36 GMT
#70
Is there a single professional Korean Protoss who is absolute shit at PvT right now?
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12388 Posts
November 10 2013 12:42 GMT
#71
On November 10 2013 21:36 Creager wrote:
Is there a single professional Korean Protoss who is absolute shit at PvT right now?


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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 12:50:54
November 10 2013 12:50 GMT
#72
#1 Dear
#2 sOs
#3 Sora
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hipo
Profile Joined November 2010
France482 Posts
November 10 2013 13:18 GMT
#73
#1 Dear
#2 sOs
#3-4-5 Rain, Parting and Trap
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 10 2013 13:19 GMT
#74
On November 10 2013 21:42 Nebuchad wrote:
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On November 10 2013 21:36 Creager wrote:
Is there a single professional Korean Protoss who is absolute shit at PvT right now?


Creator


Well I guess if you're shit at all match-ups it shouldn't really count
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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
November 10 2013 13:25 GMT
#75
On November 10 2013 18:58 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 16:23 elwoodng wrote:


P.s. Squirtle... your fans are still waiting for you to return to the top

HOLY SHIT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

Currently Dear. The only toss so far that I regard as the complete package, though his last 2 games against JD where he seemed to pull out needless allins made me think twice. The image of Dear storm-dropping Maru amidst jaw-dropping terran aggression is burned into my retina though

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On November 10 2013 17:54 Pontius Pirate wrote:
When players have figured out Dear's several timings, he will fall back to being an average code S protoss, and will never again be seen as a championship contender. Literally everything that could've worked out in his favor in WCS KR season 3 did so, and he was very fortunate to reach the finals, along with his average opponent, Soo. The season 3 finals came too soon for players, especially zerg, to figure out his timings. But Jaedong proved that once one has figured them out, Dear can do nothing but struggle helplessly in his mediocre lategame against superior SC2 players.

"Mediocre lategame"? He also showed epic lategame skills against Maru. This looks more like a typical post hating on the alleged "protoss is a gimmick race" concept. At the very least, I see Dear being as good as Innovation- extremely strong in 2 matchups and weak in one atm ost.


Ya pontius is a hater...with no objectivity..."mediocre later game"...thats a troll comment right there...
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 10 2013 13:29 GMT
#76
On November 10 2013 21:06 GumBa wrote:
Nice to see a whole breadth of top players of each race maes it more exciting.
I think Dear is the best toss but sOs entertains me more.
Best zerg Soulkey/Jaedong with players like life and HyuN bringing up the rear.
Terran I think is the toughest to choose from with Inno MMA Maru Bomber Polt leading the pack.
Hmmm imo when Inno is at the top of his game he is the best but Im looking forward to watch Maru improve

i don't think mma or polt have any claim at the top terran tbh
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 13:33:15
November 10 2013 13:29 GMT
#77
hmm. tough to say, but in my eyes atm it's definetely sOs, winning bo5s or bo7s against all 3 races (also people who became wcs champions) and only losing 1 game every series. this is impressive as hell and he was always calm and collected in his game. sOs got the upper hand and is on top of the protoss world for now. Dear is close, dear is impressive, dear played exceptionally well, but when it came to the 5th game against jd, he lost it, he was not himself. he went for a 4 gate, then stopped it, then panicked. he didnt build any probes and went on to blink all in with like 35 probes? he panicked, sos didn't that's the difference here. they are both crazy good players, but sOs has the upper hand when it comes to nerves and mind games.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 10 2013 13:36 GMT
#78
On November 10 2013 22:29 Undead1993 wrote:
hmm. tough to say, but in my eyes atm it's definetely sOs, winning bo5s or bo7s against all 3 races (also people who became wcs champions) and only losing 1 game every series. this is impressive as hell and he was always calm and collected in his game. sOs got the upper hand and is on top of the protoss world for now. Dear is close, dear is impressive, dear played exceptionally well, but when it came to the 5th game against jd, he lost it, he was not himself. he went for a 4 gate, then stopped it, then panicked. he didnt build any probes and went on to blink all in with like 35 probes? he panicked, sos didn't that's the difference here. they are both crazy good players, but sOs has the upper hand when it comes to nerves and mind games.


I would agree if it weren't for Dear's pre-Blizzcon record in Bo5s being 6-0 vP, 8-2 vZ, 6-1 vT. I agree that he didn't play his series like Jaedong like he could have (should have?) but his games during the weeks up until Blizzcon were extremely impressive. I could stretch to sOs being on Dear's level, but I'm not sold on him having surpassed Dear right now. RBBG will tell us more.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 10 2013 13:39 GMT
#79
On November 10 2013 21:36 Creager wrote:
Is there a single professional Korean Protoss who is absolute shit at PvT right now?

sOs until Blizzcon was mostly Terran and he fixed it.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45270 Posts
November 10 2013 13:40 GMT
#80
Dear > sOs > Rain > Parting > Everyone else, imo.

Which seems to be a pretty standard order, according to most other posts lol
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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