I would say Dear is right now the most solid, but on the other hand, right now prottos isnt a race of solidness but more of mind games/strategy/tactics/gimmicky, and on that part i would give sos the edge.

AxiomBlurr

786 Posts

November 10 2013 07:55 GMT

#44

Had to vote Dear. Although sOs with more wins under his belt will be coming for that title next year.

ZAiNs

United Kingdom6525 Posts

November 10 2013 07:58 GMT

#45

On November 10 2013 16:54 Kingsky wrote:
sOs he won blizzcon isnt that THE premier tournament >_>. how can people still vote for dear

WCS Korea S3 GSL was harder than Blizzcon and Dear won that as well as the S3 finals convincingly.

Pisko.

United States214 Posts

November 10 2013 07:58 GMT

#46

Rain
sOs
Dear
Parting
Trap
CJ herO

vthree

Hong Kong8039 Posts

November 10 2013 08:12 GMT

#47

On November 10 2013 16:54 Kingsky wrote:
sOs he won blizzcon isnt that THE premier tournament >_>. how can people still vote for dear

Because a lot of sports based on weekend tournaments (not a season) are like this. Olympics are the best example. For a lot of sports, the olympics are THE premier event. But lots of times, the # 1 ranked player (the best) doesn't necessarily win due to things like condition that day, draws, a player getting hot. In sports like these, it is more about performing consistently.

AxiomBlurr

786 Posts

November 10 2013 08:37 GMT

#48

On November 10 2013 16:54 Kingsky wrote:
sOs he won blizzcon isnt that THE premier tournament >_>. how can people still vote for dear

It is interesting - I orginally voted for Dear but it is hard to say - sOs carpe diemed the shit out of Blizzcon, no one deserves the title more and yet lingering in the back of my mind is the question of sustainability for a champion like sOs...

Time will tell. How smart is his play though? Man that guy has some intelligence...tricked the shiznizzlebangfizzle out of JD!
lol.

hansonslee

United States2027 Posts

November 10 2013 08:46 GMT

#49

sOs was more of preparation, similar to Oz but with much greater execution.

If sOs played on multiple tournaments, his style would have been figured out eventually.

Dear is much more solid with every good defensive and offensive capability, so he does stand a much better chance to stand on his ground.

goody153

44115 Posts

November 10 2013 08:46 GMT

#50

its Dear buddy

Pontius Pirate

United States1557 Posts

November 10 2013 08:54 GMT

#51

When players have figured out Dear's several timings, he will fall back to being an average code S protoss, and will never again be seen as a championship contender. Literally everything that could've worked out in his favor in WCS KR season 3 did so, and he was very fortunate to reach the finals, along with his average opponent, Soo. The season 3 finals came too soon for players, especially zerg, to figure out his timings. But Jaedong proved that once one has figured them out, Dear can do nothing but struggle helplessly in his mediocre lategame against superior SC2 players.

Seiniyta

Belgium1815 Posts

November 10 2013 08:58 GMT

#52

1. Dear
2. SoS
3. Naniwa

SoFrOsTy

United States525 Posts

November 10 2013 09:08 GMT

#53

I still think it is Rain. Though Dear and sos are amazing, Rain has been the best protoss since that first OSL. More than a year. He always does well in tournaments, he owned face in proleage. Sad he didn't have enough points to get to Blizzcon.

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

November 10 2013 09:09 GMT

#54

i personally think it's too close to call, we have a lot of awesome protoss in the scene

NovemberstOrm

Canada16217 Posts

November 10 2013 09:21 GMT

#55

I was much more impressed by Dear than sOs, both are definitely top 3 though.

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

November 10 2013 09:37 GMT

#56

Poll: Who is the best Terran?

Maru - OSL win, three straight semi-finals (19)

58%

INnoVation - recently unimpressive but otherwise amazing this year (6)

18%

Bomber - WCS S2 win, good results elsewhere but inconsistent (5)

15%

Other - Polt, MMA, (2)

6%

TaeJa - strong foreign wins but hasn't shined as much as last year (1)

3%

33 total votes

Your vote: Who is the best Terran?

(Vote): INnoVation - recently unimpressive but otherwise amazing this year
(Vote): Maru - OSL win, three straight semi-finals
(Vote): Bomber - WCS S2 win, good results elsewhere but inconsistent
(Vote): TaeJa - strong foreign wins but hasn't shined as much as last year
(Vote): Other - Polt, MMA,

Poll: Who is the best Zerg?

Soulkey - amazingly consistent, high level player (21)

53%

Jaedong - looking great recently, but unable to eke out tournament golds (14)

35%

Life - Great micro and unique play (5)

13%

Other (0)

0%

40 total votes

Your vote: Who is the best Zerg?

(Vote): Soulkey - amazingly consistent, high level player
(Vote): Jaedong - looking great recently, but unable to eke out tournament golds
(Vote): Life - Great micro and unique play
(Vote): Other

i guess this is another interesting discussion for the two other races too

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

November 10 2013 09:45 GMT

#57

wow those biased terran poll descriptions gg

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

November 10 2013 09:50 GMT

#58

what better way to get votes

xAdra

Singapore1858 Posts

November 10 2013 09:58 GMT

#59

On November 10 2013 16:23 elwoodng wrote:

P.s. Squirtle... your fans are still waiting for you to return to the top

HOLY SHIT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

Currently Dear. The only toss so far that I regard as the complete package, though his last 2 games against JD where he seemed to pull out needless allins made me think twice. The image of Dear storm-dropping Maru amidst jaw-dropping terran aggression is burned into my retina though

On November 10 2013 17:54 Pontius Pirate wrote:
When players have figured out Dear's several timings, he will fall back to being an average code S protoss, and will never again be seen as a championship contender. Literally everything that could've worked out in his favor in WCS KR season 3 did so, and he was very fortunate to reach the finals, along with his average opponent, Soo. The season 3 finals came too soon for players, especially zerg, to figure out his timings. But Jaedong proved that once one has figured them out, Dear can do nothing but struggle helplessly in his mediocre lategame against superior SC2 players.

"Mediocre lategame"? He also showed epic lategame skills against Maru. This looks more like a typical post hating on the alleged "protoss is a gimmick race" concept. At the very least, I see Dear being as good as Innovation- extremely strong in 2 matchups and weak in one atm ost.

Sorathez

Australia209 Posts

November 10 2013 10:02 GMT

#60

It's BroodWar come again.
Here we have the Three Kings and the Legend of the Fall all over again with three protoss championships (two champions) and three great protosses.