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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 03:56:36
February 20 2014 03:56 GMT
#1061
EDIT. So noob at posting.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 20 2014 03:56 GMT
#1062
EDIT
Siantlark
Profile Joined November 2013
52 Posts
February 20 2014 04:16 GMT
#1063
Anyone else notice that Yohwan got his own Genius leitmotif in the DM rather han the usual Moby? Wonder what's up with that.
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 05:42:59
February 20 2014 05:36 GMT
#1064
On February 20 2014 11:35 DaftFunk wrote:
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On February 20 2014 11:22 femacca wrote:
On February 20 2014 10:27 DaftFunk wrote:
Spoilery spoiler

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WOW cant believe Sangmin is out now!!

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This isn't the case from what I watched...Was this meant to mislead?



i didnt put a spoiler tag i think that fag supernovamaniac did since hes still hurting after ppl ripped him for his shitty casting on proleague!

lmao i didnt know he could change what i wrote under my account fuck that

User was temp banned for this post.


Post of the year.

Real spoilers:
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Unless I was mislead, it seems like one of the games for the finals is a table game, which implies Indian Hold'em since it's been used twice already. Still have to wait and figure out.

Hongchul picks the game-order item, but still not sure who he's gonna give it to.

There's also some weird +1 switch item that I saw, but not sure which game it can be used for.

There IS some item that has four squares and an arrow that resembles 'return the 4 cards' so I really think Indian Hold'em is one of the games.

Episode 11 spoiler:
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Somewhat expected. When Junghyun and BoxeR ended up with the Black&White game, either Junghyun switched his gameplan or BoxeR was going to win easily. Should've learned to adapt especially after telling BoxeR the strategy he used in the previous Black&Whtie game

ppp
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 06:26:12
February 20 2014 05:40 GMT
#1065
<3 !!!

Yellow talking to BoxeR asking his rational during Minus main match.

What he ask,
Exactly is what I have in mind .
Ah, also his reason to support the magician and he voice out his feeling during that episode.
Exactly what I will say too.

Ah, why am I not in Korea. . .

*Edit*
Haha , Dahye speaking my heart too.
But for me I lost interest when he helped Jiwon during Jiwon/Yellow DM.
If wasn't for that, I will have faith for BoxeR until the very end, even if he didnt prove himself for 11 matches..
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 06:33:20
February 20 2014 06:28 GMT
#1066
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This episode turned out to be a bit disappointing, I think it was a little poorly designed, because it ended up just being a matter of the guests choosing who they wanted to let win, (there was no chance of the genius team winning, in fact two players from it (boxer and sangmin) were practically competing to be the one to sell their team out,) so it was just going to be decided by who the "revenge team" felt like giving the win, while collecting $2k each for their troubles.

Also a little disappointed that the other two didn't try to fuzz the results a little to mess up sangmins code, because towards the end they both pretty clearly knew sangmin was selling them out, even if they weren't sure how. But i guess the revenge team started moving first at around the time they were sure enough to maybe make a play.

Finally a situation where he doesn't have to fail at people-skills to get to the 1v1 games he's good at. I think he might actually be able to pull it off. He's been trying really hard to outplay people the last few episodes, (maybe a little too hard) and I'm glad he's made it this far, even if it had to be at the cost of my other favourite contestant

Also, was there more laser chess in the preview, or was that just a clip from the older episode. (I didn't recognise the position on the small board, but it might be from when they were practicing/messing around with it before the deathmatch.) That game felt like it could be really good if they just tidied it up/refined it a bit to remove the obvious, more abusive deadlock strats.
Kheve
Profile Joined May 2013
323 Posts
February 20 2014 06:47 GMT
#1067
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The death match strat of boxer is actually quite strong. he used his 2nd best card in first 2 rounds and then the strongest in the next 2. The first white '3' shlda warned junghyun boxer is going all in. By the 3rd loss which were quite reasonable the game is still open. But once the 4th loss and junghyun still has a zero, he has no chance to win anymore. This depended a lot on pressuring the opponent to put out high cards rather than accept more losses. If junghyun had put out the zero he coulda still fight.

Main match coulda been good since the end was a minefield. Boxer got the right strat but sadly sangmin betrayal means its too much.
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
February 20 2014 07:54 GMT
#1068
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hoping for boxer to redeem himself and have a kick ass final. He usually has an ok strat but his social skills are seriously lacking. Also he's swayed too easily which make none of his ally ever trust him.
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
February 20 2014 08:26 GMT
#1069
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some mad props to dayhe for sniffing out potential sangmin betrayal after he got enough points!
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 09:07:58
February 20 2014 08:36 GMT
#1070
I just finished watching 11

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For the deathmatch, after Junghyun lose his 1st round, assuming worse case scenario would be a 5 beating a 3.

Given Boxer still had a 3, isn't placing a 2 a very bad play?

If he placed a 4, and BoxeR win using white tile, then he will noe BoxeR will have used both 5 and 7.

This is a valuable information, since if BoxeR play a white tile next time, he could just use 3 to force out a draw or a win.
Imagine 3 force out a draw, Junghyun could save 2 to win the BoxeR last white tile which is a 1.
Imagine 3 win, Junghyun could use 5 to win the BoxeR last white tile which is a 3.

If BoxeR win with a black tile, then BoxeR will have used 6 or 8.
This is also a valuable information, assuming worse case scenario, BoxeR would play both 5 and 6 to beat his 3 and 4.
Then he could force out a draw for the game by using his 5 and 6 carefully next. (Since BoxeR only left high and low numbers)

By placing a 2, he has to guess whether BoxeR used 4,6,8 when he win.
And BoxeR can easily win with a 3 too.
BoxeR has no reason waste his 7 on this.
Since BoxeR gain little to no information if he win with his 7.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
htennek_mil
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore59 Posts
February 20 2014 08:55 GMT
#1071
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Dat Boxer Meta at the DM is great. At least it shows his superiority in gaming. Undefeated in DM!
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
February 20 2014 11:21 GMT
#1072
On February 20 2014 17:36 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
I just finished watching 11

+ Show Spoiler +
For the deathmatch, after Junghyun lose his 1st round, assuming worse case scenario would be a 5 beating a 3.

Given Boxer still had a 3, isn't placing a 2 a very bad play?

If he placed a 4, and BoxeR win using white tile, then he will noe BoxeR will have used both 5 and 7.

This is a valuable information, since if BoxeR play a white tile next time, he could just use 3 to force out a draw or a win.
Imagine 3 force out a draw, Junghyun could save 2 to win the BoxeR last white tile which is a 1.
Imagine 3 win, Junghyun could use 5 to win the BoxeR last white tile which is a 3.

If BoxeR win with a black tile, then BoxeR will have used 6 or 8.
This is also a valuable information, assuming worse case scenario, BoxeR would play both 5 and 6 to beat his 3 and 4.
Then he could force out a draw for the game by using his 5 and 6 carefully next. (Since BoxeR only left high and low numbers)

By placing a 2, he has to guess whether BoxeR used 4,6,8 when he win.
And BoxeR can easily win with a 3 too.
BoxeR has no reason waste his 7 on this.
Since BoxeR gain little to no information if he win with his 7.

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This is true but BoxeR totally out-meta'd him. As they showed, in his game against Yooyoung, both players used their low cards first and saved their big ones for later, so he thought BoxeR would play the same way and play his 0 or 2 just like Yooyoung did (Yooyoung played 0 and 3 on the second turns in their match, Junghyun played 2 and 3).

It's telling that he used his 4 in the 3rd round and and 5 in the 4th round and felt sure he would win.
AlecPyron
Profile Joined May 2010
United States131 Posts
February 20 2014 12:18 GMT
#1073
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All in all I liked this episode. It highlighted Sangmin's ability to use others to his benefit. Dahye had a great moment as well at the last minute.

Boxer did badly in all main matches, but he had the right meta plan, just a very bad execution and a somewhat bad reputation on his character. Because both Junghyun and Boxer couldn't counter Sangmin's masterplan. Junghyun's straightforward honest plan bit him in the end sadly. Boxer on the other hand bet too much on his minefield at the top. He had a bad reputation already. He should've tried to cause a chaos on both team strategy at that point. However, his survival skills paid off at the end.

At least Boxer shone in the DM. It'll be an interesting final. Sangmin who never got in DMs and won tons of main matches versus Boxer who lost basically all main matches, but he seems strong in DMs. At the end the bum got richer.

After all his schemes, it would kinda sad to have Sangmin lose to Boxer at the end. Anyway, I'm happy with any winner.
johnbo
Profile Joined December 2012
United Kingdom41 Posts
February 20 2014 12:30 GMT
#1074
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I have faith in boxer for the next episode ^_^ I feel he is smart in the games, just he isn't a very strong character and gets like out-muscled by people. In the 1v1 situation he could very well beat sangmin (where that has been his weakest area). im yo hwan fighting !
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 20 2014 13:45 GMT
#1075
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Yellow outplayed Boxer so hard that moment. Get mindgamed.

Really think Junghyun was more worthy the final spot by a lot than Boxer. Boxer just killed so many of the games by deciding to suicide for someone elses victory.
리노크 👑
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
February 20 2014 19:20 GMT
#1076
On February 20 2014 22:45 DrPandaPhD wrote:
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Yellow outplayed Boxer so hard that moment. Get mindgamed.

Really think Junghyun was more worthy the final spot by a lot than Boxer. Boxer just killed so many of the games by deciding to suicide for someone elses victory.


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ehh ii still think yohwan is the better 1v1 player and will make for a better finals than junghyun
femacca
Profile Joined December 2013
Singapore63 Posts
February 21 2014 01:44 GMT
#1077
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I'm rooting for neither. For Sangmin, I did not have a good impression of him because of some wicked stuff he did before and the way he wielded influence over others in a somewhat twisted manner. Nevertheless, in the midst of conjuring mind games, he did put in efforts of his own to try play and win games. For Yohwan, he did not exactly prove his worth throughout the season esp the way he messed up others and ended up dulling the gameplay which made for some frustrating episodes to watch, and only showed flashing brilliance in the two DMs. One has the will to win, the other the desire to survive.

If I really have to choose, I'd rather see Sangmin win this. If Yohwan triumphs, I can't help but feel his 'unbeaten run' of 11 losses and 0 wins in MM will make a mockery out of the Genius tag. However, I think Yohwan stands a better chance since Sangmin has never gone to a DM in S2 (and only one in S1) so he may not be up to the mental pressure and challenge under that kind of atmosphere, unlike Yohwan who had experienced similar tension during his pro-gaming career.
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
February 21 2014 04:22 GMT
#1078
On February 21 2014 10:44 femacca wrote:
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I'm rooting for neither. For Sangmin, I did not have a good impression of him because of some wicked stuff he did before and the way he wielded influence over others in a somewhat twisted manner. Nevertheless, in the midst of conjuring mind games, he did put in efforts of his own to try play and win games. For Yohwan, he did not exactly prove his worth throughout the season esp the way he messed up others and ended up dulling the gameplay which made for some frustrating episodes to watch, and only showed flashing brilliance in the two DMs. One has the will to win, the other the desire to survive.

If I really have to choose, I'd rather see Sangmin win this. If Yohwan triumphs, I can't help but feel his 'unbeaten run' of 11 losses and 0 wins in MM will make a mockery out of the Genius tag. However, I think Yohwan stands a better chance since Sangmin has never gone to a DM in S2 (and only one in S1) so he may not be up to the mental pressure and challenge under that kind of atmosphere, unlike Yohwan who had experienced similar tension during his pro-gaming career.


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I actually gave this more thoughts than I should have but I think the reason why boxer go for the survival strategy in the last few episode is because of what happened earlier in the season. He was actually playing for win earlier on and has some good strats but it was always ruin by someone betraying his team. In a way the person betraying his team in the earlier episodes is no different, they sell out their team in hope of the winning team would save them. Boxer seeing how it is impossible to play straight up just go for self destruct instead. Sangmin and his broadcast alliance kinda ruin the entire season. I'd be glad to see him lose
13th Marine
Profile Joined January 2011
United States344 Posts
February 21 2014 05:53 GMT
#1079
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Jung Hyun was a great contestant, but I was hoping for Yo Hwan to somehow make it to the finals. Now that he doesn't have to worry about betrayals anymorew, I think he can take this.
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
February 21 2014 10:36 GMT
#1080
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Wow Sangmin just bought a shit ton of power ups by giving the others $2k each. I hope the finals won't be one-sided.
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