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XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
January 14 2014 20:25 GMT
#641
On January 15 2014 05:15 Shival wrote:
Download is up.


Is it my problem? I cant see the dl link.
Or every1 didnt see it.
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Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
January 14 2014 20:32 GMT
#642
On January 15 2014 05:25 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 05:15 Shival wrote:
Download is up.


Is it my problem? I cant see the dl link.
Or every1 didnt see it.


Well, I figured everyone would pretty much know how to use Asiatorrents by now. Anyway, for those lazy bastards : http://www.asiatorrents.me/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=587b34e0ae187c0586fb723f7def1524f9838abd
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
January 14 2014 20:38 GMT
#643
On January 15 2014 05:32 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 05:25 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:15 Shival wrote:
Download is up.


Is it my problem? I cant see the dl link.
Or every1 didnt see it.


Well, I figured everyone would pretty much know how to use Asiatorrents by now. Anyway, for those lazy bastards : http://www.asiatorrents.me/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=587b34e0ae187c0586fb723f7def1524f9838abd


Sorry, I am bad at this.
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ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
January 14 2014 20:41 GMT
#644
On January 15 2014 05:11 True_Spike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 03:00 ArC_man wrote:
On January 15 2014 00:52 Kheve wrote:
Cant wait for gomtv classic. I remember watching him at wcg. Back then no zergs got near the top. They are all knocked out first or second round every wcg. It was embarrassing watching zergs back then. Then came yellow who manage somehow to get out of group and made it past the first round. I remember even telling my frens when this zerg made past the first round playoff thats not bad at least we have some strong zergs who last a bit longer. Then seeing him make it all the way to the finals was like a breathe of fresh air. Was so excited thinking omg is this true a damned zerg in the finals. Ahhh the good ol days.

He would've had a good chance at winning if the final map wasn't Valhalla...


Nah, the map was doable. Blackman got third that WCG and he had beaten a korean T progamer (Oddysey) on that very map during the tournament.

As for the episode itself, Boxer is just not cut out for this show. It's truly a wonder he had survived for so long and now that it's 5 v 2 it's more or less over for him and Yellow.


It's not a wonder. He poses no threat so they just keep him on while eliminating the other strong players.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 14 2014 20:52 GMT
#645
Jinho can still survive despite being outnumbered if he can come out on top with the deathmatches like he did in season 1.

Everything seems to be going Sangmin's way. I'm guessing in the next episode, there's going to be some betrayals to make Sangmin use up his token of immortality and to lay the ground for his removal before the finals. He's too strong of a player at the moment. None of the other remaining players should want him around.
rip passion
Siantlark
Profile Joined November 2013
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 21:03:28
January 14 2014 21:00 GMT
#646
On January 11 2014 18:18 egernya wrote:
From an interview of the producer of the show, game 6 will be + Show Spoiler +
the last and the biggest "political" game, possibly with some upsets. (Obviously the "upset" part could be just a bluff of his for some dramatic reversals)
And from game 7, games will be + Show Spoiler +
heavily individual focused.

+ Show Spoiler +
I think now that it's now clear why the games will be individual from now on. Ep 6 was... Christ; it's really depressing how unsportsmanlike and shitty that episode went. The producers should've enforced a no stealing rule, it's simply unfair for Doohee, who is definitely one of the stronger players in the season, to be stomped on like that.


EDIT: Also it seems like 720p for Ep6 isn't working?
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
January 14 2014 21:05 GMT
#647
On January 15 2014 05:41 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 05:11 True_Spike wrote:
On January 15 2014 03:00 ArC_man wrote:
On January 15 2014 00:52 Kheve wrote:
Cant wait for gomtv classic. I remember watching him at wcg. Back then no zergs got near the top. They are all knocked out first or second round every wcg. It was embarrassing watching zergs back then. Then came yellow who manage somehow to get out of group and made it past the first round. I remember even telling my frens when this zerg made past the first round playoff thats not bad at least we have some strong zergs who last a bit longer. Then seeing him make it all the way to the finals was like a breathe of fresh air. Was so excited thinking omg is this true a damned zerg in the finals. Ahhh the good ol days.

He would've had a good chance at winning if the final map wasn't Valhalla...


Nah, the map was doable. Blackman got third that WCG and he had beaten a korean T progamer (Oddysey) on that very map during the tournament.

As for the episode itself, Boxer is just not cut out for this show. It's truly a wonder he had survived for so long and now that it's 5 v 2 it's more or less over for him and Yellow.


It's not a wonder. He poses no threat so they just keep him on while eliminating the other strong players.


+ Show Spoiler +
All I can say is, I can feel BoxeR and DooHee anger. I really feeling it right now.

Sangmin decided to keep the token for himself? He said he is grateful to BoxeR is feeling too fake.
I tink it is a good partnership where both ppl contribute and share the token.
He just see BoxeR as enemy , is it because he is not broadcastor team?

And Yooyoung, I just feel there is more than meet the eye, when he decided to help Jiwon and give reasons not to help Eunkyul in earlier episode. He even tell Jiwon about it.

I really like Yellow mindset of helping Eunkyul, because they accepted Eunkyual as ally, cannot play him out, when he is in death match.

It is so pure and simple relationship.

Same with BoxeR thinking, he want to share the immortal token both contribute to get the token and share it.

pure and simple relationship.

But apparently, Yooyoung has form relationship with Jiwon.
Sangmin too, all I see in ep6 is Jiwon and Sangmin doing their best to get the token.

It feels Sangmin and Jiwon is real relationship.
It oso feels Jiwon and Yooyoung is real relationship.
I am pondering about HongChul. . . .

I think this must be the Alliance people talk about.
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ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 21:15:41
January 14 2014 21:13 GMT
#648
On January 15 2014 06:05 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 05:41 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:11 True_Spike wrote:
On January 15 2014 03:00 ArC_man wrote:
On January 15 2014 00:52 Kheve wrote:
Cant wait for gomtv classic. I remember watching him at wcg. Back then no zergs got near the top. They are all knocked out first or second round every wcg. It was embarrassing watching zergs back then. Then came yellow who manage somehow to get out of group and made it past the first round. I remember even telling my frens when this zerg made past the first round playoff thats not bad at least we have some strong zergs who last a bit longer. Then seeing him make it all the way to the finals was like a breathe of fresh air. Was so excited thinking omg is this true a damned zerg in the finals. Ahhh the good ol days.

He would've had a good chance at winning if the final map wasn't Valhalla...


Nah, the map was doable. Blackman got third that WCG and he had beaten a korean T progamer (Oddysey) on that very map during the tournament.

As for the episode itself, Boxer is just not cut out for this show. It's truly a wonder he had survived for so long and now that it's 5 v 2 it's more or less over for him and Yellow.


It's not a wonder. He poses no threat so they just keep him on while eliminating the other strong players.


+ Show Spoiler +
All I can say is, I can feel BoxeR and DooHee anger. I really feeling it right now.

Sangmin decided to keep the token for himself? He said he is grateful to BoxeR is feeling too fake.
I tink it is a good partnership where both ppl contribute and share the token.
He just see BoxeR as enemy , is it because he is not broadcastor team?

And Yooyoung, I just feel there is more than meet the eye, when he decided to help Jiwon and give reasons not to help Eunkyul in earlier episode. He even tell Jiwon about it.

I really like Yellow mindset of helping Eunkyul, because they accepted Eunkyual as ally, cannot play him out, when he is in death match.

It is so pure and simple relationship.

Same with BoxeR thinking, he want to share the immortal token both contribute to get the token and share it.

pure and simple relationship.

But apparently, Yooyoung has form relationship with Jiwon.
Sangmin too, all I see in ep6 is Jiwon and Sangmin doing their best to get the token.

It feels Sangmin and Jiwon is real relationship.
It oso feels Jiwon and Yooyoung is real relationship.
I am pondering about HongChul. . . .

I think this must be the Alliance people talk about.


I don't feel bad for BoxeR at all. He's playing to survive, not to win. The reason why Yellow captured so many of our hearts in season 1 was because (for the most part) he wasn't a weasal sucking up to people and won through his own merit and intelligence. BoxeR has shown none of these capabilities, groveling and kneeling before others just to survive each round. If Gura was on the show this season he would be yelling at him.

Do you think the other contestants see him as The Emperor? They treat him like a joke and he's only ever brought up in discussions because of Yellow.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
January 14 2014 21:23 GMT
#649
+ Show Spoiler +
Wow what a terrible episode..
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
January 14 2014 21:24 GMT
#650
On January 15 2014 06:13 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 06:05 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:41 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:11 True_Spike wrote:
On January 15 2014 03:00 ArC_man wrote:
On January 15 2014 00:52 Kheve wrote:
Cant wait for gomtv classic. I remember watching him at wcg. Back then no zergs got near the top. They are all knocked out first or second round every wcg. It was embarrassing watching zergs back then. Then came yellow who manage somehow to get out of group and made it past the first round. I remember even telling my frens when this zerg made past the first round playoff thats not bad at least we have some strong zergs who last a bit longer. Then seeing him make it all the way to the finals was like a breathe of fresh air. Was so excited thinking omg is this true a damned zerg in the finals. Ahhh the good ol days.

He would've had a good chance at winning if the final map wasn't Valhalla...


Nah, the map was doable. Blackman got third that WCG and he had beaten a korean T progamer (Oddysey) on that very map during the tournament.

As for the episode itself, Boxer is just not cut out for this show. It's truly a wonder he had survived for so long and now that it's 5 v 2 it's more or less over for him and Yellow.


It's not a wonder. He poses no threat so they just keep him on while eliminating the other strong players.


+ Show Spoiler +
All I can say is, I can feel BoxeR and DooHee anger. I really feeling it right now.

Sangmin decided to keep the token for himself? He said he is grateful to BoxeR is feeling too fake.
I tink it is a good partnership where both ppl contribute and share the token.
He just see BoxeR as enemy , is it because he is not broadcastor team?

And Yooyoung, I just feel there is more than meet the eye, when he decided to help Jiwon and give reasons not to help Eunkyul in earlier episode. He even tell Jiwon about it.

I really like Yellow mindset of helping Eunkyul, because they accepted Eunkyual as ally, cannot play him out, when he is in death match.

It is so pure and simple relationship.

Same with BoxeR thinking, he want to share the immortal token both contribute to get the token and share it.

pure and simple relationship.

But apparently, Yooyoung has form relationship with Jiwon.
Sangmin too, all I see in ep6 is Jiwon and Sangmin doing their best to get the token.

It feels Sangmin and Jiwon is real relationship.
It oso feels Jiwon and Yooyoung is real relationship.
I am pondering about HongChul. . . .

I think this must be the Alliance people talk about.


I don't feel bad for BoxeR at all. He's playing to survive, not to win. The reason why Yellow captured so many of our hearts in season 1 was because (for the most part) he wasn't a weasal sucking up to people and won through his own merit and intelligence. BoxeR has shown none of these capabilities, groveling and kneeling before others just to survive each round. If Gura was on the show this season he would be yelling at him.

Do you think the other contestants see him as The Emperor? They treat him like a joke and he's only ever brought up in discussions because of Yellow.

Agreed. + Show Spoiler +
Boxer has been a major disappointment
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
January 14 2014 21:25 GMT
#651
On January 15 2014 06:13 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 06:05 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:41 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:11 True_Spike wrote:
On January 15 2014 03:00 ArC_man wrote:
On January 15 2014 00:52 Kheve wrote:
Cant wait for gomtv classic. I remember watching him at wcg. Back then no zergs got near the top. They are all knocked out first or second round every wcg. It was embarrassing watching zergs back then. Then came yellow who manage somehow to get out of group and made it past the first round. I remember even telling my frens when this zerg made past the first round playoff thats not bad at least we have some strong zergs who last a bit longer. Then seeing him make it all the way to the finals was like a breathe of fresh air. Was so excited thinking omg is this true a damned zerg in the finals. Ahhh the good ol days.

He would've had a good chance at winning if the final map wasn't Valhalla...


Nah, the map was doable. Blackman got third that WCG and he had beaten a korean T progamer (Oddysey) on that very map during the tournament.

As for the episode itself, Boxer is just not cut out for this show. It's truly a wonder he had survived for so long and now that it's 5 v 2 it's more or less over for him and Yellow.


It's not a wonder. He poses no threat so they just keep him on while eliminating the other strong players.


+ Show Spoiler +
All I can say is, I can feel BoxeR and DooHee anger. I really feeling it right now.

Sangmin decided to keep the token for himself? He said he is grateful to BoxeR is feeling too fake.
I tink it is a good partnership where both ppl contribute and share the token.
He just see BoxeR as enemy , is it because he is not broadcastor team?

And Yooyoung, I just feel there is more than meet the eye, when he decided to help Jiwon and give reasons not to help Eunkyul in earlier episode. He even tell Jiwon about it.

I really like Yellow mindset of helping Eunkyul, because they accepted Eunkyual as ally, cannot play him out, when he is in death match.

It is so pure and simple relationship.

Same with BoxeR thinking, he want to share the immortal token both contribute to get the token and share it.

pure and simple relationship.

But apparently, Yooyoung has form relationship with Jiwon.
Sangmin too, all I see in ep6 is Jiwon and Sangmin doing their best to get the token.

It feels Sangmin and Jiwon is real relationship.
It oso feels Jiwon and Yooyoung is real relationship.
I am pondering about HongChul. . . .

I think this must be the Alliance people talk about.


I don't feel bad for BoxeR at all. He's playing to survive, not to win. The reason why Yellow captured so many of our hearts in season 1 was because (for the most part) he wasn't a weasal sucking up to people and won through his own merit and intelligence. BoxeR has shown none of these capabilities, groveling and kneeling before others just to survive each round. If Gura was on the show this season he would be yelling at him.

Do you think the other contestants see him as The Emperor? They treat him like a joke and he's only ever brought up in discussions because of Yellow.


I understand ur point, keke. I have been expressing similar thoughts before in my previous post.
But what u written, pretty out for what I was trying to express. .
Maybe u misunderstood my meaning or something.
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killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 21:30:14
January 14 2014 21:25 GMT
#652
On January 15 2014 06:13 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 06:05 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:41 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:11 True_Spike wrote:
On January 15 2014 03:00 ArC_man wrote:
On January 15 2014 00:52 Kheve wrote:
Cant wait for gomtv classic. I remember watching him at wcg. Back then no zergs got near the top. They are all knocked out first or second round every wcg. It was embarrassing watching zergs back then. Then came yellow who manage somehow to get out of group and made it past the first round. I remember even telling my frens when this zerg made past the first round playoff thats not bad at least we have some strong zergs who last a bit longer. Then seeing him make it all the way to the finals was like a breathe of fresh air. Was so excited thinking omg is this true a damned zerg in the finals. Ahhh the good ol days.

He would've had a good chance at winning if the final map wasn't Valhalla...


Nah, the map was doable. Blackman got third that WCG and he had beaten a korean T progamer (Oddysey) on that very map during the tournament.

As for the episode itself, Boxer is just not cut out for this show. It's truly a wonder he had survived for so long and now that it's 5 v 2 it's more or less over for him and Yellow.


It's not a wonder. He poses no threat so they just keep him on while eliminating the other strong players.


+ Show Spoiler +
All I can say is, I can feel BoxeR and DooHee anger. I really feeling it right now.

Sangmin decided to keep the token for himself? He said he is grateful to BoxeR is feeling too fake.
I tink it is a good partnership where both ppl contribute and share the token.
He just see BoxeR as enemy , is it because he is not broadcastor team?

And Yooyoung, I just feel there is more than meet the eye, when he decided to help Jiwon and give reasons not to help Eunkyul in earlier episode. He even tell Jiwon about it.

I really like Yellow mindset of helping Eunkyul, because they accepted Eunkyual as ally, cannot play him out, when he is in death match.

It is so pure and simple relationship.

Same with BoxeR thinking, he want to share the immortal token both contribute to get the token and share it.

pure and simple relationship.

But apparently, Yooyoung has form relationship with Jiwon.
Sangmin too, all I see in ep6 is Jiwon and Sangmin doing their best to get the token.

It feels Sangmin and Jiwon is real relationship.
It oso feels Jiwon and Yooyoung is real relationship.
I am pondering about HongChul. . . .

I think this must be the Alliance people talk about.


I don't feel bad for BoxeR at all. He's playing to survive, not to win. The reason why Yellow captured so many of our hearts in season 1 was because (for the most part) he wasn't a weasal sucking up to people and won through his own merit and intelligence. BoxeR has shown none of these capabilities, groveling and kneeling before others just to survive each round. If Gura was on the show this season he would be yelling at him.

Do you think the other contestants see him as The Emperor? They treat him like a joke and he's only ever brought up in discussions because of Yellow.

+ Show Spoiler +
What else do you want him to do though. Even Jinho isn't actually doing anything in any of the games other then trying to interrupt as many meetings as possible, the only reason he's still alive is because no broadcaster wants to risk facing him. In this episode boxer actually tried to make a play, it just didn't work because sangmin obviously refuses to work with anyone outside of the broadcaster group, so just took the information and shared it with jiwon immediately.

It was just a gambit boxer made, he could either try and hope that sangmin would be willing to stray from the group for just a few minutes to help him maybe get the life thingy, or he could sit back and wait to be eliminated without any chance for counterplay.

He's been trying to make plays quite often, it's just that none of them are working at all because the outcome of each game since episode 3-4 is decided before they arrive at the studio. Jinho is safe from the elimination match for now because everyone's too scared to face him, and boxer's safe because he's been begging.

The last 3-4 episodes have just kind of been impossible to excel in for boxer or jinho. All the games are decided by the broadcaster group either just using their numbers to win, or having one of them randomly betray their team for no other reason then the fact they want to help the other broadcasters. On top of that all the deathmatches have been winnable through numbers, so there's been no chance of one of them going out. Jinho just looks better then boxer because he has a reputation, and it's being editted like that. Neither of them has come close to accomplishing anything this series other then walking around.

Also you should probably spoiler tag most of what you said, given that people who have barely watched any of s2 are also reading the thread
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 14 2014 21:32 GMT
#653
that's what sucks about this season, the goddamn alliances they formed based on their jobs and coming out of the entertainment field...
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 21:50:21
January 14 2014 21:37 GMT
#654
On January 12 2014 09:47 femacca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 05:13 sabas123 wrote:
On January 12 2014 04:54 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
On January 12 2014 04:16 sabas123 wrote:
can't wait for the subs of ep 6T_T

also i have a question about s1 ep 7
+ Show Spoiler +
what was exetly so genius about that yellow thing? wasn't the only thing he could saw if the card was faced upwards/ downwards or that it was a number/multiplier?


+ Show Spoiler +
it was b/c he noticed like the tiny tiny tiny difference between upside right and upside down that led to him knowing where all his multipliers were (like he turned the multipliers upside down and all the numbers upside right. The genius part is that it's such a small tiny thing to notice, you'd have to be seriously staring at every little part of the cards to realize something like that. and everybody else there didnt notice something so small, so that even though everybody else was shunning him, he still kicked all their asses

+ Show Spoiler +
totaly forgot that you could hand them in upside downX_X but thats fucking genius


+ Show Spoiler +
Yellow had that part covered. He already checked with the dealers beforehand about how the cards would be handled when submitted and if they would mix the directions of the cards while shuffling, which they said they wouldn't. In addition, because of the 10-card limit of the equation, he could well afford to have the first card wrong as it would be discarded if he got the rest of the equation correct.

about s1e7
+ Show Spoiler +
I was actually surprised they tried to play that off as "so impressive." Knowing that casino quality cards are printed so you can't see the rotation of the card from the back is pretty common knowledge among anyone who plays poker/blackjack/whatever even a medium amount, and being able to cheat by rotating cards in things like blackjack is just one of those stories everyone seems to know, and has happened in quite a few high profile cases in the poker world.

Now remember that Jinho is an old school broodwar player, a huge number of whom are now professional poker players. So I just sort of assumed he'd had a friend mention the technique before at some point, and therefore checked for imperfections on the cards. Of course it edits better if they imply that he randomly spotted it (or maybe he did) but whatever~
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
January 14 2014 21:57 GMT
#655
+ Show Spoiler +
I read the spoilers before this episode for some reason and from what the spoilers said I was going to get angry too, but what the fucking HELL is this crap really, FUCK Jiwon and Yooyoung, seriously I wanna punch Jiwon in the fucking face. Sad to see Doohee go of course, the next episode better be about actual skill of some sort and individual skill that is.

Argh.... Fuck this really.
Jaedong & Faker
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
January 14 2014 22:17 GMT
#656
On January 15 2014 06:25 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 06:13 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On January 15 2014 06:05 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:41 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:11 True_Spike wrote:
On January 15 2014 03:00 ArC_man wrote:
On January 15 2014 00:52 Kheve wrote:
Cant wait for gomtv classic. I remember watching him at wcg. Back then no zergs got near the top. They are all knocked out first or second round every wcg. It was embarrassing watching zergs back then. Then came yellow who manage somehow to get out of group and made it past the first round. I remember even telling my frens when this zerg made past the first round playoff thats not bad at least we have some strong zergs who last a bit longer. Then seeing him make it all the way to the finals was like a breathe of fresh air. Was so excited thinking omg is this true a damned zerg in the finals. Ahhh the good ol days.

He would've had a good chance at winning if the final map wasn't Valhalla...


Nah, the map was doable. Blackman got third that WCG and he had beaten a korean T progamer (Oddysey) on that very map during the tournament.

As for the episode itself, Boxer is just not cut out for this show. It's truly a wonder he had survived for so long and now that it's 5 v 2 it's more or less over for him and Yellow.


It's not a wonder. He poses no threat so they just keep him on while eliminating the other strong players.


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All I can say is, I can feel BoxeR and DooHee anger. I really feeling it right now.

Sangmin decided to keep the token for himself? He said he is grateful to BoxeR is feeling too fake.
I tink it is a good partnership where both ppl contribute and share the token.
He just see BoxeR as enemy , is it because he is not broadcastor team?

And Yooyoung, I just feel there is more than meet the eye, when he decided to help Jiwon and give reasons not to help Eunkyul in earlier episode. He even tell Jiwon about it.

I really like Yellow mindset of helping Eunkyul, because they accepted Eunkyual as ally, cannot play him out, when he is in death match.

It is so pure and simple relationship.

Same with BoxeR thinking, he want to share the immortal token both contribute to get the token and share it.

pure and simple relationship.

But apparently, Yooyoung has form relationship with Jiwon.
Sangmin too, all I see in ep6 is Jiwon and Sangmin doing their best to get the token.

It feels Sangmin and Jiwon is real relationship.
It oso feels Jiwon and Yooyoung is real relationship.
I am pondering about HongChul. . . .

I think this must be the Alliance people talk about.


I don't feel bad for BoxeR at all. He's playing to survive, not to win. The reason why Yellow captured so many of our hearts in season 1 was because (for the most part) he wasn't a weasal sucking up to people and won through his own merit and intelligence. BoxeR has shown none of these capabilities, groveling and kneeling before others just to survive each round. If Gura was on the show this season he would be yelling at him.

Do you think the other contestants see him as The Emperor? They treat him like a joke and he's only ever brought up in discussions because of Yellow.

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What else do you want him to do though. Even Jinho isn't actually doing anything in any of the games other then trying to interrupt as many meetings as possible, the only reason he's still alive is because no broadcaster wants to risk facing him. In this episode boxer actually tried to make a play, it just didn't work because sangmin obviously refuses to work with anyone outside of the broadcaster group, so just took the information and shared it with jiwon immediately.

It was just a gambit boxer made, he could either try and hope that sangmin would be willing to stray from the group for just a few minutes to help him maybe get the life thingy, or he could sit back and wait to be eliminated without any chance for counterplay.

He's been trying to make plays quite often, it's just that none of them are working at all because the outcome of each game since episode 3-4 is decided before they arrive at the studio. Jinho is safe from the elimination match for now because everyone's too scared to face him, and boxer's safe because he's been begging.

The last 3-4 episodes have just kind of been impossible to excel in for boxer or jinho. All the games are decided by the broadcaster group either just using their numbers to win, or having one of them randomly betray their team for no other reason then the fact they want to help the other broadcasters. On top of that all the deathmatches have been winnable through numbers, so there's been no chance of one of them going out. Jinho just looks better then boxer because he has a reputation, and it's being editted like that. Neither of them has come close to accomplishing anything this series other then walking around.

Also you should probably spoiler tag most of what you said, given that people who have barely watched any of s2 are also reading the thread


First of all, I'm not going to spoiler anything I say because there is a twitter AND a blog where people can check for updates. I come to this thread to talk about the series, as everyone else should be doing. This is turning into a thread where every single post is under spoiler tags and that is incredible stupid considering what I just mentioned. It's like going to page 100 of a LR thread and expecting to not be spoilered.

Second of all, you're right that it MAY just be the way the show has been edited, but in the past, when certain contestants knew they were up for elimination, (Gura, Minsoo etc) they took it like a man and went to the DM without begging people to allow them to survive. That is what it means to have a shred of pride. The reason why BoxeR hasn't had any of his 'plays' pan out is because, as I stated earlier, they are all just to survive. He never makes a play to win. Take this episode for example, he didn't even focus on the game itself and just tried to make a play for the token of immortality. As you said, Yellow didn't look impressive this episode either, but he accepted the fact that he had a high chance of going to the death match and made peace with it. He didn't try to play both sides and try to weasel his way onto the winning team.

BoxeR on the other hand has never committed to any team during this entire season. The only reason why he is on "Jinho's side" is because the others don't trust him. If you take for example last episode where they played the "bill game", if he had just been smart and cooperated they would have had a chance to win the game. But again, he was playing both sides because his will for survival was stronger than his will to win, resulting in the other team figuring out a way to nullify their winning hand.

One of the catch phrases from season 1 was that in this game, you can have either an ugly win or a beautiful defeat. BoxeR is having an ugly defeat.
WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
January 14 2014 22:26 GMT
#657
I'm actually surprised that this episode made me angry despite reading a lot about it beforehand. That was disgusting, even though there are several parties at fault.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
January 14 2014 22:34 GMT
#658
On January 15 2014 07:26 WhX wrote:
I'm actually surprised that this episode made me angry despite reading a lot about it beforehand. That was disgusting, even though there are several parties at fault.


I agree. I was uncomfortable with the bullying aspects of this episode. If Sangmin betrays you to win the game/token that's fine because that's what the game is about. If there is an alliance that is winning every game and sending the other players to the DM that's not their fault it's the fault of the producers; they're just doing what they need to to win. But to steal another player's card the entire episode to ensure their defeat is the kind of playground bullying that you'd expect to see amongst children. I guess William Golding was right.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 22:56:47
January 14 2014 22:55 GMT
#659
On January 15 2014 07:26 WhX wrote:
I'm actually surprised that this episode made me angry despite reading a lot about it beforehand. That was disgusting, even though there are several parties at fault.


Same, because I have problems with daily motion, I rewatch the 2nd time.
And I was so angry . . .I cant slp.

That is why I am still here .

Especially
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Maybe I am just too angry, but when Yooyoung show sense of delight when Jiwon told the result (They all cross) The hate just consume me. Then tears just keep coming down. It was a tiring episode to watch.

Somehow in my mind I feel like I am literally watching Evil wins.
And Good feeling helpless.

Then Doohee shared his life experience, and he still upheld his moral belief despite all that, then he confront Jiwon about the phone call, about the promise of help. When Jiwon gave his answer (Drunk?) , Yooyoung laugh. I cant take this at this point. Jiwon shows sense of guilt but Yooyoung feel like she didnt see Doohee sincere feelings.

Maybe she is relief or happy, she didnt get eliminated.

They share the blame, but I am really curious who is the disgusting person tinking of stealing the ID in the 1st place.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
remember87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden144 Posts
January 14 2014 22:59 GMT
#660
On January 15 2014 02:57 Clefairy wrote:
Episode 6 is up

Thank you so so much! I love this show!

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With that said, S1 was sooo much better then S2 (so far). S2 only seems to be about alliances that have been formed around things that are not determined in the house. I only hope there will be more individual games around skill in the future. This bs is just not fun watching..
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