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On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:08 Storm71 wrote:
So basically it's fair for Naniwa to roflstomp through his challenger league against players who had no incentive to win, but Revival should play against players who try their best.
Got it. Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league.
Without the points from this season, naniwa would've been out. I'd like for someone to double check the math to make sure. His opponents in WCS were playing under the same conditions as Revivals opponents now, except that they now stand to earn $500. I fully respect you to have your own opinion, but don't try to sweep things under the rug because they don't support your point of view.
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On October 30 2013 03:26 S1eth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:23 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:20 S1eth wrote:On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:13 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:08 Storm71 wrote:
So basically it's fair for Naniwa to roflstomp through his challenger league against players who had no incentive to win, but Revival should play against players who try their best.
Got it. Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Actually you qualify through the number of points you've earned throughout the year, not on any one particular event. And once again, you've completely ignored what I posted. Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. Naniwa had already given up on the chance of going to Blizzcon at that point and had no extra incentives. Not even he himself expected to do so well at IEM to be able to gain enough points. (source: Naniwa interview at IEM) Do you always believe what people say in interviews no matter what? If he didn't bother going to IEM New York, I would have no doubt at all. I think you have some serious trust issues... Why wouldn't you go to a tournament and win money? Even if he had 0 WCS points, he would've still wanted to win some money at IEM.
I didn't say he shouldn't. If he didn't bother to go, I would've believed him without question that he thought there was no hope of him doing well.
As it is, we can't know for sure.
It was a tongue-in-cheek comment on my part. It was hard to convey tone across written text.
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On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:13 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:08 Storm71 wrote:
So basically it's fair for Naniwa to roflstomp through his challenger league against players who had no incentive to win, but Revival should play against players who try their best.
Got it. Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Actually you qualify through the number of points you've earned throughout the year, not on any one particular event. And once again, you've completely ignored what I posted. Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add.
I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise.
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On October 30 2013 03:28 Martijn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:08 Storm71 wrote:
So basically it's fair for Naniwa to roflstomp through his challenger league against players who had no incentive to win, but Revival should play against players who try their best.
Got it. Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Without the points from this season, naniwa would've been out. I'd like for someone to double check the math to make sure. His opponents in WCS were playing under the same conditions as Revivals opponents now, except that they now stand to earn $500. I fully respect you to have your own opinion, but don't try to sweep things under the rug because they don't support your point of view.
viewpoints aside, the first sentence is correct
iirc there was some discussion about forgg's incentives back when that match was played
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On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:13 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:08 Storm71 wrote:
So basically it's fair for Naniwa to roflstomp through his challenger league against players who had no incentive to win, but Revival should play against players who try their best.
Got it. Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Actually you qualify through the number of points you've earned throughout the year, not on any one particular event. And once again, you've completely ignored what I posted. Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise.
Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance.
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On October 30 2013 03:28 Martijn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:08 Storm71 wrote:
So basically it's fair for Naniwa to roflstomp through his challenger league against players who had no incentive to win, but Revival should play against players who try their best.
Got it. Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Without the points from this season, naniwa would've been out. I'd like for someone to double check the math to make sure. His opponents in WCS were playing under the same conditions as Revivals opponents now, except that they now stand to earn $500. I fully respect you to have your own opinion, but don't try to sweep things under the rug because they don't support your point of view.
In fairness "get 2nd place in IEM despite the trend of pure Korean domination" is not exactly a plan even Naniwa would go for.
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On October 30 2013 03:32 Storm71 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:13 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:08 Storm71 wrote:
So basically it's fair for Naniwa to roflstomp through his challenger league against players who had no incentive to win, but Revival should play against players who try their best.
Got it. Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Actually you qualify through the number of points you've earned throughout the year, not on any one particular event. And once again, you've completely ignored what I posted. Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise. Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance.
So ForGG played worse and didn't care Naniwa win because he wasn't going to get $500?
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On October 30 2013 03:32 Storm71 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:13 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:08 Storm71 wrote:
So basically it's fair for Naniwa to roflstomp through his challenger league against players who had no incentive to win, but Revival should play against players who try their best.
Got it. Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Actually you qualify through the number of points you've earned throughout the year, not on any one particular event. And once again, you've completely ignored what I posted. Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise. Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance.
People being lazy is bad.
People trying hard is good.
The more good there is, the better it is for the game.
You are arguing that Revival's opponents should play lazy for Naniwa's sake--which is dumb.
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On October 30 2013 03:34 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:32 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:13 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:08 Storm71 wrote:
So basically it's fair for Naniwa to roflstomp through his challenger league against players who had no incentive to win, but Revival should play against players who try their best.
Got it. Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Actually you qualify through the number of points you've earned throughout the year, not on any one particular event. And once again, you've completely ignored what I posted. Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise. Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance. So ForGG played worse and didn't care Naniwa win because he wasn't going to get $500?
Maybe, we can't know for sure. But it's erroneous to assume that financial incentives make no difference at all.
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On October 30 2013 03:35 Storm71 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:34 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:32 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:13 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:08 Storm71 wrote:
So basically it's fair for Naniwa to roflstomp through his challenger league against players who had no incentive to win, but Revival should play against players who try their best.
Got it. Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Actually you qualify through the number of points you've earned throughout the year, not on any one particular event. And once again, you've completely ignored what I posted. Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise. Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance. So ForGG played worse and didn't care Naniwa win because he wasn't going to get $500? Maybe, we can't know for sure. But it's erroneous to assume that financial incentives make no difference at all.
Well I guess Revival will have to man up and play some really good Starcraft with the terrible, unfair shadow of this 500 bounty over his head. I really hope he can handle the pressure of such a high stakes match. Big money is on the line.
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On October 30 2013 03:40 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:35 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:34 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:32 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:13 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:08 Storm71 wrote:
So basically it's fair for Naniwa to roflstomp through his challenger league against players who had no incentive to win, but Revival should play against players who try their best.
Got it. Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Actually you qualify through the number of points you've earned throughout the year, not on any one particular event. And once again, you've completely ignored what I posted. Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise. Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance. So ForGG played worse and didn't care Naniwa win because he wasn't going to get $500? Maybe, we can't know for sure. But it's erroneous to assume that financial incentives make no difference at all. Well I guess Revival will have to man up and play some really good Starcraft with the terrible, unfair shadow of this 500 bounty over his head. I really hope he can handle the pressure of such a high stakes match. Big money is on the line.
It is pretty high stakes for Revival  because if he wins he gets a shot at the Blizzcon prize pool. But barring some serious KR/NA lag going on, I don't see Revival losing this group anyway.
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On October 30 2013 03:42 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:40 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:35 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:34 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:32 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:13 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:
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Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Actually you qualify through the number of points you've earned throughout the year, not on any one particular event. And once again, you've completely ignored what I posted. Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise. Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance. So ForGG played worse and didn't care Naniwa win because he wasn't going to get $500? Maybe, we can't know for sure. But it's erroneous to assume that financial incentives make no difference at all. Well I guess Revival will have to man up and play some really good Starcraft with the terrible, unfair shadow of this 500 bounty over his head. I really hope he can handle the pressure of such a high stakes match. Big money is on the line. It is pretty high stakes for Revival because if he wins he gets a shot at the Blizzcon prize pool. But barring some serious KR/NA lag going on, I don't see Revival losing this group anyway.
$5,000 bounty on select, jon snow, and Naniwa is apparently less than the $500 bounty on Revival.
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On October 30 2013 03:42 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:40 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:35 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:34 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:32 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:13 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:11 Plansix wrote:
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Naniwa qualified through IEM, not challenger. He doesn't need to play this weekend. The only way he needs to play is if Revival ties him in WCS points through challenger league. Actually you qualify through the number of points you've earned throughout the year, not on any one particular event. And once again, you've completely ignored what I posted. Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise. Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance. So ForGG played worse and didn't care Naniwa win because he wasn't going to get $500? Maybe, we can't know for sure. But it's erroneous to assume that financial incentives make no difference at all. Well I guess Revival will have to man up and play some really good Starcraft with the terrible, unfair shadow of this 500 bounty over his head. I really hope he can handle the pressure of such a high stakes match. Big money is on the line. It is pretty high stakes for Revival because if he wins he gets a shot at the Blizzcon prize pool. But barring some serious KR/NA lag going on, I don't see Revival losing this group anyway.
I know, but I think the $500 bounty on his head might be of much for him. I mean, he will know exactly how much his opponents will get for beating him and how modivated they will be. I mean, they could buy a PS4 with that money. It's really mean that Naniwa put which pressure on Revival.
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Source is what Naniwa himself thinks the groups will be
https://twitter.com/NaNiwaSC2
Johan Lucchesi @NaNiwaSC2 23h
according to sasquatch Revivals group is taeja select and jonsnow and taeja gave walkover ? If hope this isnt true?
not sure on what sasquatch source is, but if Naniwa thinks these are the groups then I would be incline to believe that
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On October 30 2013 03:46 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:42 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 30 2013 03:40 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:35 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:34 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:32 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:13 Storm71 wrote:
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Actually you qualify through the number of points you've earned throughout the year, not on any one particular event.
And once again, you've completely ignored what I posted. Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise. Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance. So ForGG played worse and didn't care Naniwa win because he wasn't going to get $500? Maybe, we can't know for sure. But it's erroneous to assume that financial incentives make no difference at all. Well I guess Revival will have to man up and play some really good Starcraft with the terrible, unfair shadow of this 500 bounty over his head. I really hope he can handle the pressure of such a high stakes match. Big money is on the line. It is pretty high stakes for Revival because if he wins he gets a shot at the Blizzcon prize pool. But barring some serious KR/NA lag going on, I don't see Revival losing this group anyway. $5,000 bounty on select, jon snow, and Naniwa is apparently less than the $500 bounty on Revival.
There's a difference between a prize pool and a bounty.
And that aside, you're still wrong about the $5000; Revival can only earn the 5K if he beats Naniwa in a best of 5 at Blizzcon before the main tournament.
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If I were Revival, the only response I would have for this would pretty much be: "NANI U SCARED BRO?!"
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On October 30 2013 03:55 Storm71 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:46 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 30 2013 03:42 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 30 2013 03:40 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:35 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:34 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:32 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:16 Plansix wrote:
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Yes and naniwai got a lot of his pints through IEM, which is what I said. He doesn't need to, and can't play in challenger league for this season. No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM. And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise. Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance. So ForGG played worse and didn't care Naniwa win because he wasn't going to get $500? Maybe, we can't know for sure. But it's erroneous to assume that financial incentives make no difference at all. Well I guess Revival will have to man up and play some really good Starcraft with the terrible, unfair shadow of this 500 bounty over his head. I really hope he can handle the pressure of such a high stakes match. Big money is on the line. It is pretty high stakes for Revival because if he wins he gets a shot at the Blizzcon prize pool. But barring some serious KR/NA lag going on, I don't see Revival losing this group anyway. $5,000 bounty on select, jon snow, and Naniwa is apparently less than the $500 bounty on Revival. There's a difference between a prize pool and a bounty. And that aside, you're still wrong about the $5000; Revival can only earn the 5K if he beats Naniwa in a best of 5 at Blizzcon before the main tournament.
$5000 is still a bigger number than $500, so not fair for select and Jon.
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On October 30 2013 04:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:55 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:46 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 30 2013 03:42 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 30 2013 03:40 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:35 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:34 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:32 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:18 Storm71 wrote:
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No, you mistakenly said that Naniwa qualified THROUGH IEM, not just the fact that he got some points at IEM.
And Naniwa DID play in challenger league season 3, without a bounty being placed on him I might add. I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise. Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance. So ForGG played worse and didn't care Naniwa win because he wasn't going to get $500? Maybe, we can't know for sure. But it's erroneous to assume that financial incentives make no difference at all. Well I guess Revival will have to man up and play some really good Starcraft with the terrible, unfair shadow of this 500 bounty over his head. I really hope he can handle the pressure of such a high stakes match. Big money is on the line. It is pretty high stakes for Revival because if he wins he gets a shot at the Blizzcon prize pool. But barring some serious KR/NA lag going on, I don't see Revival losing this group anyway. $5,000 bounty on select, jon snow, and Naniwa is apparently less than the $500 bounty on Revival. There's a difference between a prize pool and a bounty. And that aside, you're still wrong about the $5000; Revival can only earn the 5K if he beats Naniwa in a best of 5 at Blizzcon before the main tournament. $5000 is still a bigger number than $500, so not fair for select and Jon.
What's unfair about it? Without Naniwa's bounty they stood to gain 0 dollars. Now Naniwa is offering $500 bucks to anybody beating Revival. That Naniwa himself stands to gain MORE is completely irrelevant.
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On October 30 2013 04:08 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 04:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 30 2013 03:55 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:46 Thieving Magpie wrote:On October 30 2013 03:42 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 30 2013 03:40 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:35 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:34 Plansix wrote:On October 30 2013 03:32 Storm71 wrote:On October 30 2013 03:29 Plansix wrote:
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I thought he was In premier league this season, my bad. Either way, doesn't change anything. Players around going to play as hard as they want, bounty or otherwise. Which again assumes that financial incentives have no impact on performance. So ForGG played worse and didn't care Naniwa win because he wasn't going to get $500? Maybe, we can't know for sure. But it's erroneous to assume that financial incentives make no difference at all. Well I guess Revival will have to man up and play some really good Starcraft with the terrible, unfair shadow of this 500 bounty over his head. I really hope he can handle the pressure of such a high stakes match. Big money is on the line. It is pretty high stakes for Revival because if he wins he gets a shot at the Blizzcon prize pool. But barring some serious KR/NA lag going on, I don't see Revival losing this group anyway. $5,000 bounty on select, jon snow, and Naniwa is apparently less than the $500 bounty on Revival. There's a difference between a prize pool and a bounty. And that aside, you're still wrong about the $5000; Revival can only earn the 5K if he beats Naniwa in a best of 5 at Blizzcon before the main tournament. $5000 is still a bigger number than $500, so not fair for select and Jon. What's unfair about it? Without Naniwa's bounty they stood to gain 0 dollars. Now Naniwa is offering $500 bucks to anybody beating Revival. That Naniwa himself stands to gain MORE is completely irrelevant.
Storm71 convinced me that unless Naniwa offers 5k its not a fair fight for other players in group. lol
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I don't think its any idea for us who like this incentive, to argue against the people who hate Naniwa (and thus are against it), so just stop arguing about it.
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