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This is a quick secondary translation. As always, it is important to note about the things that lost during the two translation processes.
Update the question about WCS system with a Korean direct translation. (Credit goes to http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=432759#7)
Q: Thoughts after winning the final round of Code A?
Flash: I am glad I won. I don't know when it is the next season, but for the time left, improving my weak points will be my focus.
Q: You didn't perform well in IEM New York.
Flash: It's really regretful. I was beaten by some comebacks multiple times. I think back in Dreamhack my strength was not enough. But I had confidence with IEM New York. The practice was great at the time. But the result was bad. I'm disappointed myself.
Q: Why the performance is bad?
Flash: The atmosphere is one aspect. But my style was massively and specifically countered by the opponents. I should have taken this as an advantage for myself. The lack of strategic preparation is another reason for the failure.
Q: You didn't make it to the Global Finals.
Flash: I didn't have good performance in Season 1 and 2, so I didn't expect much this time. Before the new season starts next year, my main mission is to improve my skill.
Q: Your experience of foreign tournament is lacking. What's your thought?
Flash: I always think that I lack experience of foreign tournament. But the most important thing is to do my best and overcome shortcomings. I already had a feeling when I went to IEM that the gap of experience cannot be ignored. When I saw Hyun beat European players so easily, that exact feeling just came to mind.
Q: What's your most regrettable game in IEM?
Flash: In game 1 and game 2 against Curious, there were situations where I had 90% chance to win, however I was beaten by some last-minute pushes. After coming back to Korea, I made a deep reflection on that.
Q: After today's WCS, your WCS games this year are finished.
Flash: Since I wasn't able to make it out of the Ro16, I don't have any big things to complain about. I've been hearing a lot of grumbling and complaints about the WCS format, and of course I don't think the format is great either. When it was first announced, I had a lot of hopes. At the time, I heard that the format wasn't going to differ much from the LoL World Cup so there was a bit of disappointment. I've heard that they are improving it for the future, so I'll have to wait and see. This season, with the decline in even foreign tournaments, I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.
Q: Any last words?
Flash: Other players are criticizing that the winners of Code A can't seed to Code S next season. But I don't have this luxury. My focus is to improve my skill and performance. Whether there is seed or not is not important. Even if it starts with the qualifiers, I will do it again and make it.
Source: http://s.163.com/13/1019/00/9BGRJDU200314Q8T.html Korean source: http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=347&article_id=0000046477&date=20131018&page=3
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I would not call this WCS year a failure. Flash thinks its a failure because he didn't do well, but it provided some really fantastic games. Also, the viewer count has been better than before.
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Poor Flash, seems like the WCS system is extremely resented by all Koreans.
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Thanks for the translation!
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WCS really fucked over GSL and OSL. Blizz should have left Korea alone or just made WCS NA/EU just like gsl format instead of changing the format and prize money.
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A translation from the korean of the answer people seem to be responding to, just so it's a bit clearer for y'all:
Q: After today's matches, your schedule is concluded for the year.
Since I wasn't able to make it out of the Ro16, I don't have any big things to complain about. I've been hearing a lot of grumbling and complaints about the WCS format, and of course I don't think the format is great either. When it was first announced, I had a lot of hopes. At the time, I heard that the format wasn't going to differ much from the LoL World Cup so there was a bit of disappointment. I've heard that they are improving it for the future, so I'll have to wait and see. This season, with the decline in even foreign tournaments, I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.
Oh also, that part about Code A not seeding to Code S is not in the original interview. Pretty weird translations this :s
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Seem like he really want to improve. Hope he's going to participate foreign tournaments more often.
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It seems that his losses did no demotivate Flash, I hope he can do better next year!
I don't know about you guys, but I think it would be better if Blizz stops changing code S, just let it be like it was last year, and create another tournament for WCS KR or something like that
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On October 19 2013 12:48 Applesmack wrote: I would not call this WCS year a failure. Flash thinks its a failure because he didn't do well, but it provided some really fantastic games. There would've been SC2 and great games regardless and Flash is very open about needing to improve his own game. Pretty ridiculous to suggest that he hates WCS because of his performances. If anything the GSL/OSL would've been harder without WCS.
He's probably more disappointed in what WCS has done to the Korean Starleagues in terms of reduced prize pools and a diluted player pool with less hype/prestige. He's interested in making SC2 successful in Korea and WCS certainly failed at that.
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I really enjoy watching Flash play, surprised he hasn't had more success given his experience and how committed he is.
I expect a lot from him in 2014.
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On October 19 2013 13:00 Mintie wrote:A translation from the korean of the answer people seem to be responding to, just so it's a bit clearer for y'all: Q: After today's matches, your schedule is concluded for the year. Since I wasn't able to make it out of the Ro16, I don't have any big things to complain about. I've been hearing a lot of grumbling and complaints about the WCS format, and of course I don't think the format is great either. When it was first announced, I had a lot of hopes. At the time, I heard that the format wasn't going to differ much from the LoL World Cup so there was a bit of disappointment. I've heard that they are improving it for the future, so I'll have to wait and see. This season, with the decline in even foreign tournaments, I think has to be thought of as a complete failure. Oh also, that part about Code A not seeding to Code S is not in the original interview. Pretty weird translations this :s
The original article is this one. It's a little bit different. http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=347&article_id=0000046477&date=20131018&page=3
Also, I really hope the mass amount of people on TL who knows Korean can do more translation. I usually wait 2-3 days and if I don't see someone do a Korean translation, then I will go ahead to do the Chinese one. So please do more Korean translation. Don't just come out when I do a Chinese one to correct me. Though correction is definitely welcome.
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I wish there was some way to differentiate OSL from WCS KR and have it run at the same time as GSL.
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Oh, that makes sense! Crazy how similar they are. Sorry!
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Maybe I'm one of the few who think this but WCS completely screwed over GSL. I used to see GSL as the most prestigious SCII league but after WCS got introduced, it's lacking a lot of people in it to return it to it's previous glory. Sad when you think about it but WCS did mess things up even if the intention was to promote the game and add more money to the scene. Hopefully the new season's format is better and Flash starts doing better as well. Thanks for translation!
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On October 19 2013 12:42 larse wrote: I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.
God has spoken.
Are you listening Blizzard?
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Wow. I am so glad that Flash seems focused on improving. He has a great mentality. I'm sure 2014 will be great for him
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Even though he doesn't like WCS, or even not enjoy the game that much. At least he's still very motivated by looking at this interview. Hope he can at least reach one semi final in the near future, in Korean tournaments ofc.
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Bad results cut in two directions. One is to demotivate people, the other is to push them to work hard. I think we all know which Flash is.
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Even if it starts with the qualifiers, I will do it again and make it.
Such a determined man... there's a reason why this guy's called God. Good luck to flash, hopefully he can make it back in full strength
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I wouldn't mind a decline in foreign tournaments, I can't even watch all of them. The mentality of interviews from Korea is really discouraging though, expected more fighting spirit from them.
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On October 19 2013 14:09 FeyFey wrote: I wouldn't mind a decline in foreign tournaments, I can't even watch all of them. The mentality of interviews from Korea is really discouraging though, expected more fighting spirit from them.
It's hard to maintain a fighting spirit when the game you play for a living isn't even popular or receiving much local community support. It surely must be a struggle to motivate yourself to keep playing. Flash is Flash so obviously his drive is higher than most but at some point, he might eventually cave in like Bisu, Jangbi and the other ex-BW pros did.
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On October 19 2013 12:42 larse wrote: Q: After today's WCS, your WCS games this year are finished.
Flash: Since I wasn't able to make it out of the Ro16, I don't have any big things to complain about. I've been hearing a lot of grumbling and complaints about the WCS format, and of course I don't think the format is great either. When it was first announced, I had a lot of hopes. At the time, I heard that the format wasn't going to differ much from the LoL World Cup so there was a bit of disappointment. I've heard that they are improving it for the future, so I'll have to wait and see. This season, with the decline in even foreign tournaments, I think has to be thought of as a complete failure. (emphasis added)
That was the quote of the article for me, right there.
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my favorite part
Q: Any last words?
Flash: Other players are criticizing that the winners of Code A can't seed to Code S next season. But I don't have this luxury. My focus is to improve my skill and performance. Whether there is seed or not is not important. Even if it starts with the qualifiers, I will do it again and make it.
he can only get better still, really. onwards and upwards Flash
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Man, I admire this guy so much. Even if he wasn't playing a game I loved, I would still look up to him for his attitude.
There's a reason I cheer for you, Flash. GL with your preparations for 2014, man.
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yeah im not hating but i do miss the way gsl use to be
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Flash: Other players are criticizing that the winners of Code A can't seed to Code S next season. But I don't have this luxury. My focus is to improve my skill and performance. Whether there is seed or not is not important. Even if it starts with the qualifiers, I will do it again and make it. Spoken like a true competitior.
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Flash mindset is the mindset of the ultimate champion. And I think it should elevate him to the top once more, given enough time. The guy just doesn't care about anything than being the best.
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The WCS format is shit . I am sorry blizzard but making a league above the others is just not wise. I much prefer the 2012 format just like Blizzcon
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On October 19 2013 13:03 Littlesheep wrote: I really enjoy watching Flash play, surprised he hasn't had more success given his experience and how committed he is.
I expect a lot from him in 2014. From what I gathered he didn't practice SC2 that hard for a long time (compared to his insane BW practice schedule anyway) but has recently picked up the pace.
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Flash always looking to get better and be the best, great interview.
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On October 19 2013 14:09 FeyFey wrote: I wouldn't mind a decline in foreign tournaments Don't know isn't it enough with nasl,mlg and ipl gone ?
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Does anybody have any idea around when the next season will start? I hope that this time off will be what Flash really needs to get to the next level.
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I'm also looking forward to next season, but not sure whether this year the foreign tournaments really declined. I mean, the prize money handed out over all events is more or less the same than last year, isn't it?
edit: hm, maybe not.
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OMG His final words are why I love him.
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flash and jaedong always had a different mindset than everyone .. hmm i wish him luck in the rest of his sc2 days .. hope he will make mech work
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Well at least it's clear Flash is here to stay (in sc2) and won't be on afreeca any time soon! The hopes for a new Jaedong vs Flash rivalry next season lives on.
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On October 19 2013 13:14 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 12:42 larse wrote: I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.
God has spoken. Are you listening Blizzard? No, because there's nothing to learn from that statement. If he made reasonable suggestions, sure, then it might be worth listening to. Otherwise his complaints are just as useless as a random TL poster. edit - I love Flash too, so don't get me wrong. Just don't blindly think everything he says is worth gold, things he says should be kept to the same reasonable standard as anybody else
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Flash hath layeth down the law, harken ye heathens but well, knoweth that thy Lord hath declared the realm of WCS to be corrupt and ungodly, and must by cleansed by the holy flame of Brood War.
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Hopefully tanks get buffed in a bigger way than they said and Flash can go back to being the king of mech again. If that happens I'll be a very happy man next season.
Flash and SKT keeping the game alive for me :p
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His attitude towards the game is inspiring. No excuses, always wants to improve, doesn't care which tournament or which format. Focus on getting better.
As soon as Blizzard fixes mech he is going to dominate.
Flash fighting!
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Flash has a good mindset. No excuses, he lost because he lost, not because of game. I expect him to return to dominance soon once he hit his stride.
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Call me impressed. I have never watched any broodwar and neither I like watching terrans in general (normally I'm a protoss guy), but Flash has such an awesome and likable attitude that he gathered a fan once again. I love his modesty. I wish him to win something big in the near future. Nobody deserves it more.
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Just saying.. 2014, year of Flash in SC2
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Ultimate Weapon FightinG!!!
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Flash should have meched more vs Curious and DRG
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Flash is a great person truly.
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On October 19 2013 19:14 aslejoh wrote:Just saying.. 2014, year of Flash in SC2 Amen, brother. Amen.
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this interview released my doubts about flash's overall mindset towards the game and the scene. good to know flash is still flash. fighting indeed!
thanks for translating
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On October 19 2013 17:41 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 13:14 BronzeKnee wrote:On October 19 2013 12:42 larse wrote: I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.
God has spoken. Are you listening Blizzard? No, because there's nothing to learn from that statement. If he made reasonable suggestions, sure, then it might be worth listening to. Otherwise his complaints are just as useless as a random TL poster. edit - I love Flash too, so don't get me wrong. Just don't blindly think everything he says is worth gold, things he says should be kept to the same reasonable standard as anybody else
Of course, and I'm not a Flash fan (in fact, I didn't watch any BW and I don't think he is good). But you act as if there is no good solution and Blizzard is doing everything they can.
There was a successful WCS system, and they replaced it with an inferior one. So when he says he it was a complete failure after the first season of WCS was so successful, it stands to reason.... (I'll let you fill in the blank). Logic goes a long way.
Furthermore, the the community has explained to Blizzard in oh so many ways that region locking is a necessity (regions were locked in the first season of WCS) and has given many other suggestions to improve WCS. But Blizzard has ignored the advice of the community, and basically said that everything was fine.
Flash saying it is a complete failure is evidence to the community and Blizzard that everything isn't fine, and that Blizzard is wrong.
We all need to call a spade a spade here, and call WCS what it is: a failure. The sooner Blizzard realizes that, the better. So the question remains: are you listening Blizzard? Sure, you read this and hear us, but are actually listening?
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"complete failure"
wow, hope something was lost in translation there
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On October 19 2013 23:50 a176 wrote: "complete failure"
wow, hope something was lost in translation there
I doubt it. Assuming he's talking mainly about Korea, WCS has been a complete failure. If anything, it's made SC2 less popular in Korea than it was when there was just GSL/OSL. Blizzard fucked with the prize pools, and diluted the amount of skilled players. A lot of really great players that would normally be in GSL are now "taking the easy way out" by going for WCS EU/AM.
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On October 19 2013 17:41 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 13:14 BronzeKnee wrote:On October 19 2013 12:42 larse wrote: I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.
God has spoken. Are you listening Blizzard? No, because there's nothing to learn from that statement. If he made reasonable suggestions, sure, then it might be worth listening to. Otherwise his complaints are just as useless as a random TL poster. edit - I love Flash too, so don't get me wrong. Just don't blindly think everything he says is worth gold, things he says should be kept to the same reasonable standard as anybody else Because some has the right to complain about his job? And hes not the only one
It doesnt take a philosophy to see that we have less starcraft to watch and players have less chances & money to earn, not to mention all the (arguably related) disbanding/retirement. Does that read "failure" to you?
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I don't understand. There are so many SC2 tournaments. There are WCS games almost almost every week. We also have Dreamhack, IEM, Homestory Cup, and Redbull tournaments. There are also teamleagues (Proleague, GSTL, and Acer Cup). Blizzard has poured extra prize money into the scene.
As for the game's popularity in Korea. I'm not sure what can be done. Broodwar was a cultural phenomenon in Korea. There are a glut of eZ free online games now. So Broodwar level popularity is probably unattainable for SC2. Still, maybe good marketing for LoTV and more Blizzard prize money could help somewhat.
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On October 20 2013 00:14 Salient wrote: I don't understand. There are so many SC2 tournaments. There are WCS games almost almost every week. We also have Dreamhack, IEM, Homestory Cup, and Redbull tournaments. There are also teamleagues (Proleague, GSTL, and Acer Cup). Blizzard has poured extra prize money into the scene.
As for the game's popularity in Korea. I'm not sure what can be done. Broodwar was a cultural phenomenon in Korea. There are a glut of eZ free online games now. So Broodwar level popularity is probably unattainable for SC2. Still, maybe good marketing for LoTV and more Blizzard prize money could help somewhat.
That is like saying you don't understand why people say the department store Sears isn't doing well because you see so many of them around...
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great dedication to his own discipline.
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On October 20 2013 00:08 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 17:41 Zenbrez wrote:On October 19 2013 13:14 BronzeKnee wrote:On October 19 2013 12:42 larse wrote: I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.
God has spoken. Are you listening Blizzard? No, because there's nothing to learn from that statement. If he made reasonable suggestions, sure, then it might be worth listening to. Otherwise his complaints are just as useless as a random TL poster. edit - I love Flash too, so don't get me wrong. Just don't blindly think everything he says is worth gold, things he says should be kept to the same reasonable standard as anybody else Because some has the right to complain about his job? And hes not the only one It doesnt take a philosophy to see that we have less starcraft to watch and players have less chances & money to earn, not to mention all the (arguably related) disbanding/retirement. Does that read "failure" to you?
Well Retirement could be cause of Kespa entering into the scene. There was place for ~150 players (and ~30 top players) in KR before Kespa came. So with Kespa entrance, players have to leave.
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Flash not impressed.
He is right, WCS 2013 forcing their methods and rules over tournaments that were already successful and established is silly. I hope Blizzard feeds the tournaments, all of them, not just a 'special partner' in each region.
Most importantly, the major tournaments in Korea like PL need help to start off (hasn't really kicked off in sc2).
WCS could still be "in charge" by just giving out WCS points to however they want (hopefully way more to Korea with OSL, GSL, PL).
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On October 20 2013 02:59 Insoleet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 00:08 Arceus wrote:On October 19 2013 17:41 Zenbrez wrote:On October 19 2013 13:14 BronzeKnee wrote:On October 19 2013 12:42 larse wrote: I think has to be thought of as a complete failure.
God has spoken. Are you listening Blizzard? No, because there's nothing to learn from that statement. If he made reasonable suggestions, sure, then it might be worth listening to. Otherwise his complaints are just as useless as a random TL poster. edit - I love Flash too, so don't get me wrong. Just don't blindly think everything he says is worth gold, things he says should be kept to the same reasonable standard as anybody else Because some has the right to complain about his job? And hes not the only one It doesnt take a philosophy to see that we have less starcraft to watch and players have less chances & money to earn, not to mention all the (arguably related) disbanding/retirement. Does that read "failure" to you? Well Retirement could be cause of Kespa entering into the scene. There was place for ~150 players (and ~30 top players) in KR before Kespa came. So with Kespa entrance, players have to leave.
I dont buy into that bs anymore. Facts are: the game stalls, some lost interest, LoL is the shit, the system sucks, world's economy sucks. Please fix (not the last one though)
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I really hope they change something about the format and how it plays out so that it hopefully will attract a lot of more viewers in the future.
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