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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
October 07 2013 16:52 GMT
#21
I liked watching Shuttle's streams. It's unfortunate that there are so many good players, yet they can never really break into the top.
GL to Shuttle.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 07 2013 16:52 GMT
#22
On October 08 2013 01:51 DiMano wrote:
WTF WHY EVRYONE RETIRES???????? What is wrog explain me please about 15-20 koreans have retired wtf is this...

Too much progamers. When kespa came to sc2, player pool got double
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
October 07 2013 16:53 GMT
#23
On October 08 2013 01:51 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:51 DiMano wrote:
WTF WHY EVRYONE RETIRES???????? What is wrog explain me please about 15-20 koreans have retired wtf is this...


Mandatory Military Service

No just no
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
October 07 2013 16:57 GMT
#24
On October 08 2013 01:53 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:51 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 08 2013 01:51 DiMano wrote:
WTF WHY EVRYONE RETIRES???????? What is wrog explain me please about 15-20 koreans have retired wtf is this...


Mandatory Military Service

No just no

what do you mean? there's: A- too many progamers. and B- mandatory military service is a thing in SK.

nothing about that statement is incorrect.
The universe created an audience for itself.
OneSpeed
Profile Joined June 2012
Norway47 Posts
October 07 2013 17:00 GMT
#25
3 Terran in 1 day lol.
I only got one speed
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1982 Posts
October 07 2013 17:05 GMT
#26
... who is next?
Total Annihilation Zero
jtp118
Profile Joined November 2010
United States137 Posts
October 07 2013 17:08 GMT
#27
everyone needs to chill out ... there are waaaaaaaaaay too many SC2 players at the moment, it helps the scene to have retirements. eSF teams, KeSPA teams, and foreign teams cannot all fit into SC2, and all need to downsize.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
October 07 2013 17:11 GMT
#28
On October 08 2013 01:51 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:51 DiMano wrote:
WTF WHY EVRYONE RETIRES???????? What is wrog explain me please about 15-20 koreans have retired wtf is this...


Mandatory Military Service


more like too many players, not enough tournaments
AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
October 07 2013 17:14 GMT
#29
its hard to be a mediocre terran in korea for the moment. specially when you are teamless like Shuttle.
i balance whine all the time.
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
October 07 2013 17:14 GMT
#30
On October 08 2013 01:57 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:53 DiMano wrote:
On October 08 2013 01:51 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 08 2013 01:51 DiMano wrote:
WTF WHY EVRYONE RETIRES???????? What is wrog explain me please about 15-20 koreans have retired wtf is this...


Mandatory Military Service

No just no

what do you mean? there's: A- too many progamers. and B- mandatory military service is a thing in SK.

nothing about that statement is incorrect.

A he is 19 years old e.g. HyuN is 25
B Shuttle is in the WCS and not eliminated
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 07 2013 17:15 GMT
#31
On October 08 2013 02:11 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:51 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 08 2013 01:51 DiMano wrote:
WTF WHY EVRYONE RETIRES???????? What is wrog explain me please about 15-20 koreans have retired wtf is this...


Mandatory Military Service


more like too many players, not enough tournaments

tbh there are plenty tournaments (less so in Korea though), way too many to watch. and i don't like that too much.

what's not there though is stable payment from teams like in BW times, i assume. but yeah there are too many players too.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
October 07 2013 17:16 GMT
#32
well... there goes another one
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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
October 07 2013 17:17 GMT
#33
On October 08 2013 02:14 DiMano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:57 Mortal wrote:
On October 08 2013 01:53 DiMano wrote:
On October 08 2013 01:51 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 08 2013 01:51 DiMano wrote:
WTF WHY EVRYONE RETIRES???????? What is wrog explain me please about 15-20 koreans have retired wtf is this...


Mandatory Military Service

No just no

what do you mean? there's: A- too many progamers. and B- mandatory military service is a thing in SK.

nothing about that statement is incorrect.

A he is 19 years old e.g. HyuN is 25
B Shuttle is in the WCS and not eliminated

you're literally addressing nothing with those two statements. they mean less than nothing in this context (other than WCS, but he was still hardly in contention for any big prize or a legitimate payday). he was never going to win WCS. he knows that.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 07 2013 17:17 GMT
#34
Even though a huge number of pro gamers are still active, this constant stream of retirements recently seems to be quite demoralizing for the community.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
October 07 2013 17:18 GMT
#35
I guess it's time for the new players to a rise , I think they only "old school" hope we have is Flash JD, other than them, I think older players will retire
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
October 07 2013 17:18 GMT
#36
On October 08 2013 01:51 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:51 DiMano wrote:
WTF WHY EVRYONE RETIRES???????? What is wrog explain me please about 15-20 koreans have retired wtf is this...


Mandatory Military Service


Lol don't act like that's the only reason.
Juicy Orange
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada133 Posts
October 07 2013 17:21 GMT
#37
So many forfeits and retires.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
October 07 2013 17:26 GMT
#38
And here comes the next "sc2 is soooooooo bad thread. It killed bisu and so many other heros that were killed by david kim...".

The thruth will most likely be in the middle. You just cant do "pro" gaming forever if you arent at the very top to get a big contract, that happens in every sport. Ask college players. There is the military service in korea and that the sc2 player pool is just too big to support so many players on a market that is relatively isolated.

And some maybe dont like sc2.
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 17:31:13
October 07 2013 17:28 GMT
#39
It's very hard to take WCS seriously with byes all over the place due to players retiring, not getting visas, choosing different tournaments to attend and so on.


You just cant do "pro" gaming forever if you arent at the very top to get a big contract, that happens in every sport.

No it does not. Even bad basketball pro players find somewhere to play, and I am pretty sure they earn more than an average progamer. Even my little country Lithuania has two basketball leagues and majority of players here are objectively very bad compared to those "at the very top", i.e. NBA stars.

But I don't mean SC2 is necessarily bad by that. It's just not where money is at.
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 07 2013 17:30 GMT
#40
Not another one...
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
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