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I was just visiting the SOSPA thread and the BW streamer posted this:
On September 26 2013 18:42 snipealot wrote:
sonic just announced KT Mind for sospa
4 more players to go
from SOSPA's head's Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/sogoodtt
"kt전프로 박성균선수 섭외되었습니다
김태균선수가 도움 주셧습니다^^
아직 못푼 카드 4장 남아있습니다
기대되시죠^^?"
Bing translated to "Kt Pro has been the player Park Sung-Kyun Kim Tae-Kyun athletes help contact note was ^ ^ 4 not yet unpacked card are left looking forward to do ^ ^? "
Is Mind retiring? Any "official sources" yet (aka from Daily Esport or Fomos)?
UPDATE:
On September 26 2013 23:34 OopsOopsBaby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 23:33 JustPassingBy wrote:
Eh, weird. I'm sure Kespa is really strict about the participation of their players in other events, so I really can't think that they would allow one of their player to participate in the Sospa. On the other hand the facebook posts explicitly states "KT Mind" and not just "Mind" or "ex-KT Mind"... kt전프로 means ex KT pro
^Well I guess this semi-confirms it. I can't really trust 100% Sonic's update because he might just be saying it to hype up future events. Still need confirmation by actual KT managers and/or credible reporters.
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mixed feelings about this...
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Eh, weird. I'm sure Kespa is really strict about the participation of their players in other events, so I really can't think that they would allow one of their player to participate in the Sospa. On the other hand the facebook posts explicitly states "KT Mind" and not just "Mind" or "ex-KT Mind"...
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On September 26 2013 23:33 JustPassingBy wrote:
Eh, weird. I'm sure Kespa is really strict about the participation of their players in other events, so I really can't think that they would allow one of their player to participate in the Sospa. On the other hand the facebook posts explicitly states "KT Mind" and not just "Mind" or "ex-KT Mind"...
kt전프로 means ex KT pro
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Holy shiiiiit ! :D
that would be just awesome !!! I hope that this is true 
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Wouldn't be too surprised.
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On September 26 2013 23:34 OopsOopsBaby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 23:33 JustPassingBy wrote:
Eh, weird. I'm sure Kespa is really strict about the participation of their players in other events, so I really can't think that they would allow one of their player to participate in the Sospa. On the other hand the facebook posts explicitly states "KT Mind" and not just "Mind" or "ex-KT Mind"... kt전프로 means ex KT pro
Ah, okay, then the translation in the op is wrong. Well, if it really means ex-KT, then that pretty much settles it, doesn't it?
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Sonic league is starting to look incredible. BW lives on.
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BW revival <3
Thanks SC2 
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Can´t even remember him playing SC2, so that probably didn´t help.
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United States23455 Posts
Wouldn't be a huge surprise. Mind didn't make much of an impact in SC2. He played four total games in the entire proleague season, and lost all four.
Still I guess it's cool that SOSPA is getting these players.
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SOSPA's looking great. Happy to see that there is a place to go for those who still have passion for bw
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Well given that he would just retire if sospa didn't exist I'm pretty happy. Still sad to see all these guys retire, but when the game changes this much it's only natural that some loose interest.
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I would much prefer it if the title was "KT Mind to play in SOSPA", instead of gloomy retirement news. He is not retiring, he will still be involved in gaming.
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To be totally honest, he wasn't exactly doing too great in SC2, so hopefully he'll find more success in BW.
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On September 27 2013 00:19 Grumbels wrote:
I would much prefer it if the title was "KT Mind to play in SOSPA", instead of gloomy retirement news. He is not retiring, he will still be involved in gaming.
Then again, if you were to nitpick even further, you could still say that since he'd then be listed as "this player has retired from competitive Starcraft II" on Liquipedia, it could indeed be called a retirement in the context of the SC2 subforum. 
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On September 27 2013 00:31 UmberBane wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 00:19 Grumbels wrote:
I would much prefer it if the title was "KT Mind to play in SOSPA", instead of gloomy retirement news. He is not retiring, he will still be involved in gaming. Then again, if you were to nitpick even further, you could still say that since he'd then be listed as "this player has retired from competitive Starcraft II" on Liquipedia, it could indeed be called a retirement in the context of the SC2 subforum.
Well, anybody leaving KeSPA is retiring, at least according to KeSPA. I still remember when they claimed Boxer was retiring because he... hm... maybe that was when he tried out SC2?
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SOSPA
Soon to be #1 tournement in world
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All possible retirements based on WCS prelims
All rosters here:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano
Player who did not try to qualify:
eSF:
 AnNyeong (was in brackets but did not show up)
 Center (probably will play in WCS AM)
BBoongBBoong (probably will play in WCS AM)
jookTo (probably will play in WCS AM)
 TREME (probably will play in WCS AM)
GGanDoL (probably will play in WCS AM)
viOLet (probably will play in WCS AM or EU)
KeSPA:
Shark !
FaKe
Guilty
SpeeD
hOpe
oDin
Swift
Motive (probably will play in WCS AM)
Puzzle !
Mind !
BarrackS
HoeJJa (probably will play in WCS EU)
hitmaN (probably will play in WCS AM)
Cacia
Crazy !
Brown (was in brackets but did not show up)
Mercury
JyJ
Zenio (probably will play in WCS AM)
Girls:
Aphrodite
Barbie
P.S.
! - for big names or players who were in WCS in last seasons.
WCS EU or WCS AM based on last seasons attempts (e.g. hitmaN tried to qualify for WCS AM etc)
I did a list of active players for myself:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano/Rosters
List with all players here:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano
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Rumor about his retirement has been going on for a while now.
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I think 4 more are:
HoeJJa, Crazy, BarrackS, JyJ
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On September 27 2013 00:58 DiMano wrote:I think 4 more are: HoeJJa, Crazy, BarrackS, JyJ
One of them is Boxer, SKT said he stepped down for health reasons and we all know the only cure is more BW.
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:04 ChoiSulli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 00:58 DiMano wrote:I think 4 more are: HoeJJa, Crazy, BarrackS, JyJ One of them is Boxer, SKT said he stepped down for health reasons and we all know the only cure is more BW.
Nah, Boxer may play BW on the side, but he will probably return as terran coach... if only SKT had more than 2 relevant terrans :D
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On September 27 2013 01:05 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 01:04 ChoiSulli wrote:On September 27 2013 00:58 DiMano wrote:I think 4 more are: HoeJJa, Crazy, BarrackS, JyJ One of them is Boxer, SKT said he stepped down for health reasons and we all know the only cure is more BW. Nah, Boxer may play BW on the side, but he will probably return as terran coach... if only SKT had more than 2 relevant terrans :D
I'm not sure he will return actually. Health reasons can be another way for him to step down while his rep stays intact seeing as how he majorly contributed to SKT's rise.
This news doesn't surprise me tbh. I haven't seen mind play a single game in SCII(supposedly he played 4 and lost them all lol) and BW is the game that made him want to be a programer. Best of luck to him!
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Russian Federation40186 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:08 BigFan wrote:Best of luck to him!
So much this.
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Insert Proleague "Mind mind mind" joke here.
Gl in SOSPA Mind!
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SOSPA is so hype these day.
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On September 27 2013 00:45 DiMano wrote:eSF: jookTo (probably will play in WCS AM)
Actually, jookTo has been with clarity gaming for a while, and has since retired.
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Good luck, Mind. You beat Bisu in the MSL finals, maybe you can upstage him in SOSPA too.
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Really exciting news, i cant wait to see him play in SOSPA .
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Mind never did anything in sc2, wouldn't be surprised.
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I think that when next Proleague season's rosters are announced, we'll find out that a lot more pros have retired under the radar.
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Bisu's Arch-nemesis
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I think this has been said a thousand times on TL, but "forcing" BW pros to play another game, is like telling professional football players to play handball. If they don't enjoy SC2 it's probably the best thing to do, especially with the strict practice hours as a kespa player.
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Mind was not very good in sc2 anyways.
Never won in proleague and poor performances at WCS qualifiers...
GL to him in the future,looks like sc2 wasn't his game
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On September 27 2013 05:46 sceroh wrote:
I think this has been said a thousand times on TL, but "forcing" BW pros to play another game, is like telling professional football players to play handball. If they don't enjoy SC2 it's probably the best thing to do, especially with the strict practice hours as a kespa player.
It's been said way too many times. Retirements do happen in the offseason and Mind's one isn't remotely surprising. He's old and hasn't performed well at either game in a long time. He wouldn't have lasted much longer in BW either and will probably do military service soon anyway. Considering how evenly the retirements are spread between the proleague teams (I expect KT to lose 2 more - maybe Hoejja + BarrackS). it also looks like a downsizing of rosters and salaries heading into next season with the least successful/passionate/oldest volunteering to leave.
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On September 27 2013 05:35 forumtext wrote:Bisu's Arch-nemesis
What's strange is that even though Mind beat him 3-1 in the MSL finals, Bisu is 6-0 other than that with wins in OSL and Proleague. Bisu got his revenge. But now it's Mind's time to turn the table. Please play on Afreeca / SOSPA! Mind fighting!
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Sospa just got even better. Come back to the game you love Mind!
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UPDATE:
On September 26 2013 23:34 OopsOopsBaby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 23:33 JustPassingBy wrote:
Eh, weird. I'm sure Kespa is really strict about the participation of their players in other events, so I really can't think that they would allow one of their player to participate in the Sospa. On the other hand the facebook posts explicitly states "KT Mind" and not just "Mind" or "ex-KT Mind"... kt전프로 means ex KT pro
^Well I guess this semi-confirms it. I can't really trust 100% Sonic's update because he might just be saying it to hype up future events. Still need confirmation by actual KT managers and/or credible reporters.
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TLADT24920 Posts
On September 27 2013 08:54 Xiphos wrote:UPDATE: Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 23:34 OopsOopsBaby wrote:On September 26 2013 23:33 JustPassingBy wrote:
Eh, weird. I'm sure Kespa is really strict about the participation of their players in other events, so I really can't think that they would allow one of their player to participate in the Sospa. On the other hand the facebook posts explicitly states "KT Mind" and not just "Mind" or "ex-KT Mind"... kt전프로 means ex KT pro ^Well I guess this semi-confirms it. I can't really trust 100% Sonic's update because he might just be saying it to hype up future events. Still need confirmation by actual KT managers and/or credible reporters.
I dunno if I necessarily agree with your thought about Sonic's hype. I mean, ya, I guess it can generate a small amount of hype but him retiring is nowhere on the level of some of the recent retirees and I think he would get in trouble if he tried to say that a KeSPA member who is playing SCII is playing BW? I think* lol
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On September 27 2013 10:23 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 08:54 Xiphos wrote:UPDATE: On September 26 2013 23:34 OopsOopsBaby wrote:On September 26 2013 23:33 JustPassingBy wrote:
Eh, weird. I'm sure Kespa is really strict about the participation of their players in other events, so I really can't think that they would allow one of their player to participate in the Sospa. On the other hand the facebook posts explicitly states "KT Mind" and not just "Mind" or "ex-KT Mind"... kt전프로 means ex KT pro ^Well I guess this semi-confirms it. I can't really trust 100% Sonic's update because he might just be saying it to hype up future events. Still need confirmation by actual KT managers and/or credible reporters. I dunno if I necessarily agree with your thought about Sonic's hype. I mean, ya, I guess it can generate a small amount of hype but him retiring is nowhere on the level of some of the recent retirees and I think he would get in trouble if he tried to say that a KeSPA member who is playing SCII is playing BW? I think* lol
not really, people like bisu sneaked off to play bw during proleague season regularly
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yayyyyyy :D
so many protosses now though :D
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On September 27 2013 11:09 rauk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 10:23 BigFan wrote:On September 27 2013 08:54 Xiphos wrote:UPDATE: On September 26 2013 23:34 OopsOopsBaby wrote:On September 26 2013 23:33 JustPassingBy wrote:
Eh, weird. I'm sure Kespa is really strict about the participation of their players in other events, so I really can't think that they would allow one of their player to participate in the Sospa. On the other hand the facebook posts explicitly states "KT Mind" and not just "Mind" or "ex-KT Mind"... kt전프로 means ex KT pro ^Well I guess this semi-confirms it. I can't really trust 100% Sonic's update because he might just be saying it to hype up future events. Still need confirmation by actual KT managers and/or credible reporters. I dunno if I necessarily agree with your thought about Sonic's hype. I mean, ya, I guess it can generate a small amount of hype but him retiring is nowhere on the level of some of the recent retirees and I think he would get in trouble if he tried to say that a KeSPA member who is playing SCII is playing BW? I think* lol not really, people like bisu sneaked off to play bw during proleague season regularly
ya, heard about bisu playing BW against larva several months back etc... but in this case, he's broadcasting it and saying that mind retired when it's not official yet. May cause problems although I doubt KeSPA will do anything considering their new role of promoting esports.
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Uh, he wasn't exactly successful in SC2 so this is probably the right decision. Good luck to him!
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That is a bad decision. Bisu owns BW atm.
No more Mind Time in SC2 then...
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On September 27 2013 00:45 DiMano wrote:All possible retirements based on WCS prelims All rosters here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiManoPlayer who did not try to qualify: eSF: AnNyeong (was in brackets but did not show up) Center (probably will play in WCS AM) BBoongBBoong (probably will play in WCS AM) jookTo (probably will play in WCS AM) TREME (probably will play in WCS AM) GGanDoL (probably will play in WCS AM) viOLet (probably will play in WCS AM or EU) KeSPA: Shark ! FaKe Guilty SpeeD hOpe oDin Swift Motive (probably will play in WCS AM) Puzzle ! Mind ! BarrackS HoeJJa (probably will play in WCS EU) hitmaN (probably will play in WCS AM) Cacia Crazy ! Brown (was in brackets but did not show up) Mercury JyJ Zenio (probably will play in WCS AM) Girls: Aphrodite Barbie P.S. ! - for big names or players who were in WCS in last seasons. WCS EU or WCS AM based on last seasons attempts (e.g. hitmaN tried to qualify for WCS AM etc) I did a list of active players for myself: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano/RostersList with all players here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano
Is this for real ? Wow.. Even if half of these players would retire and go to afreeca to stream BW, that would be amazing !
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SOSPA is becoming the new ogn.
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On September 27 2013 18:39 Sinedd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 00:45 DiMano wrote:All possible retirements based on WCS prelims All rosters here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiManoPlayer who did not try to qualify: eSF: AnNyeong (was in brackets but did not show up) Center (probably will play in WCS AM) BBoongBBoong (probably will play in WCS AM) jookTo (probably will play in WCS AM) TREME (probably will play in WCS AM) GGanDoL (probably will play in WCS AM) viOLet (probably will play in WCS AM or EU) KeSPA: Shark ! FaKe Guilty SpeeD hOpe oDin Swift Motive (probably will play in WCS AM) Puzzle ! Mind ! BarrackS HoeJJa (probably will play in WCS EU) hitmaN (probably will play in WCS AM) Cacia Crazy ! Brown (was in brackets but did not show up) Mercury JyJ Zenio (probably will play in WCS AM) Girls: Aphrodite Barbie P.S. ! - for big names or players who were in WCS in last seasons. WCS EU or WCS AM based on last seasons attempts (e.g. hitmaN tried to qualify for WCS AM etc) I did a list of active players for myself: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano/RostersList with all players here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:DiMano Is this for real ? Wow.. Even if half of these players would retire and go to afreeca to stream BW, that would be amazing !
It is just a list of players who did not try to qualify for WCS.
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Imo PL and OSL shouldn't have switch to sc2. It just hurt both sides. If BW was still on today.. it helps the SC scene in general and vice versa.
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kt전프로 박성균선수 섭외되었습니다
We have talked with Former KT Pro Mind.
김태균선수가 도움 주셧습니다^^
Perfectman had helped us out.
아직 못푼 카드 4장 남아있습니다
(I don't know what a 못푼 카드 is so I can't translate this)
기대되시죠^^?"
Basically translates to - get hyped?
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why are KT unable to release a statement to this?
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Canada16217 Posts
On September 27 2013 22:18 GTR wrote:
kt전프로 박성균선수 섭외되었습니다
We have talked with Former KT Pro Mind.
김태균선수가 도움 주셧습니다^^
Perfectman had helped us out.
아직 못푼 카드 4장 남아있습니다
(I don't know what a 못푼 카드 is so I can't translate this)
기대되시죠^^?"
Basically translates to - get hyped?
so he is retired then?
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On October 02 2013 00:41 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 22:18 GTR wrote:
kt전프로 박성균선수 섭외되었습니다
We have talked with Former KT Pro Mind.
김태균선수가 도움 주셧습니다^^
Perfectman had helped us out.
아직 못푼 카드 4장 남아있습니다
(I don't know what a 못푼 카드 is so I can't translate this)
기대되시죠^^?"
Basically translates to - get hyped? so he is retired then?
Spotted Mind streaming in Afreeca yeah it's confirmed he has retired.
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