EPTWCS AM - Ro32 begins with Group D (Season 3) - Page 2
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Kommatiazo
United States579 Posts
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Jawra
Sweden146 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On September 17 2013 06:22 Advocado wrote: WCS America! With nothing but koreans! Yay Blizzard. Learn from LCS jesus christ. Just to throw this out there as an example, Edward (support player for Curse) is Armenian, lives in Russia, but ended up playing in the LCS NA because he joined a... wait for it... North American Team! Like Alive being on the North American Team EG and playing in WCS AM? Yeah kinda. So LCS does have some crossover, although their focus on it being only live matches does prevent most region switching. | ||
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4tre55
Germany330 Posts
So how can WCS America ever do right by you people? Or is it just more of the complaining about sc2/balance/blizzard just to have a reason to complain? | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
On September 17 2013 05:50 azzih wrote: WCS America or rather WCS Korea-with-lag this is so stupid. Make WCS offline tournaments so korean region cheating stops... User was warned for this post Why exactly was this warned? o.o Most people agree that "WCS America = WCS Korea light" is rather problematic. Nevertheless, I like aLive and hope that he makes it out of the group.  I think he's very much underestimated and showed great games in the past. He has the skill to make it to Ro8 and further...I don't know/care for the others though. And it's really sad that no Americans are in this WCS America group. | ||
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niekoz
Netherlands350 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
Learn to like koreans and scarlett or stop watching. The crying is getting old. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
What a bunch of self entitled whiners. | ||
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FoShao
United States256 Posts
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On September 17 2013 07:09 Caladan wrote: Why exactly was this warned? o.o Most people agree that "WCS America = WCS Korea light" is rather problematic. Nevertheless, I like aLive and hope that he makes it out of the group. I think he's very much underestimated and showed great games in the past. He has the skill to make it to Ro8 and further...I don't know/care for the others though. And it's really sad that no Americans are in this WCS America group. Because it's repetitive and adds nothing? You can't make WCS offline without screwing over more people than the Koreans who want to participate. There are probably more Koreans who would benefit than people who aren't Koreans. Scarlett is Canadian. The US is a big place, North and South America are even bigger places. The South Americans would need to move. Scarlett would need to move. Most Americans would need to move... It's an idiotic suggestion and it's the same thing over and over again. Chinese? Australians? Taiwanese? All the other non-Koreans who don't have their own region? Or if they don't move, they have to fly regularly, and at what point do you stop it being online? Is Challenger online? It's not an actual solution to the problem. | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
That's why you shouldn't take hallucinogenic drugs kids. The LoL scene is worse than SC2 for NA vs Korean skill level (like Broodwar worse). Alive has got this group btw, Hack through in 2nd place. | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On September 17 2013 06:52 Crownlol wrote: Yes. Either way, region locking needs to happen. I'm still looking forward to watching today's games, despite not really caring about any other players (aLive, maybe?). But WCS absolutely needs region-locking. WCS absolutely needs region locking (in 3-5 years when WCS has more regions so region locking would only completely fuck over the minority, because by then hopefully SC2 will be more career based instead of throwing huge amounts of tournament money at 1-4 players and it will then be worthwhile for someone in a terrible area to say "I'm going to take a risk and move to ____ to start a life in eSports!") However, WCS region locking anytime soon would be absolutely ridiculous and is one of the worst ideas anyone could possibly present. All of the people suggesting it should slap themselves for being THAT ignorant. On September 17 2013 07:09 Caladan wrote: Why exactly was this warned? o.o Most people agree that "WCS America = WCS Korea light" is rather problematic. Because when a troll makes a post that takes away from the productivity and adds literally nothing because he is attempting to troll and/or express a toxic statement/opinion, he needs to be warned/temp banned. Rooting for Hack and aLive! Mostly just for Hack though... Aside from him, hope the best player wins. | ||
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
On September 17 2013 08:50 althaz wrote: That's why you shouldn't take hallucinogenic drugs kids. The LoL scene is worse than SC2 for NA vs Korean skill level (like Broodwar worse). Alive has got this group btw, Hack through in 2nd place. Uhhhh... have you watched the s3 finals that are going on right now? Vulcun (#3 seeded NA team) very nearly beat one of the best Korean teams. The regions are MUCH closer in league than in sc2. | ||
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astray71
United States325 Posts
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
On September 17 2013 07:19 Dodgin wrote: My advice to everyone who hates WCS America: Learn to like koreans and scarlett or stop watching. The crying is getting old. IDK man it just is kinda sad to see your fan favorite players not get a shot at playing in WCS. One of the reasons I love ATC, and SC2L is because in a team league you get to see your favorite players come out and play matches. I honestly enjoy watching Europe more than WCS AM. I mean any tournament that has koreans in it you know they are going to be the top 8 hands down. Also if Taeja isn't considered the best player in the world right now, I don't know what else to say. The guy just wins games he is so solid. That dreamhack win was impressive ! | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
On September 17 2013 07:20 lichter wrote: If WCS were a region locked meritocracy then we'd have WCS CN and force AM players to live in China. What a bunch of self entitled whiners. Where are your manners, man? I know, as a writer you won't be getting a warning here for calling people "a bunch of self entitled whiners" (which is sad for tl.net), but... seriously, when you have no arguments left, you call people names? Also there is no WCS CN and there are no plans for it. But you seem to have a great talent for imagination. If WCS was region locked, it would be probably like IEM is *right now*. We would have a WCS Asia region, including Korea and China, a region Europe + Africa, and a region North+South America. Works fine. That said - that's not a whine or anything, just a response to this fail post I quoted... -_- | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
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ke_ivan
Singapore374 Posts
I guess there will always be comparisons amongst regions, but it doesn't change some facts: a) KR format encourages preparation over instinctive play. b) EU and AM encourage preparation until Semi's, and then encourage a hybrid of instinctive play and planning. c) WCS Finals always encourage a hybrid of instinctive play and planning. Who's better? Who knows. But it could be argued that EU and AM are just better prepared for a "hybrid of instinctive play and planning format", and that KR are inherently at a disadvantage already. Then again, I haven't seen a non-KR champion in WCS yet. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On September 17 2013 07:20 lichter wrote: If WCS were a region locked meritocracy then we'd have WCS CN and force AM players to live in China. What a bunch of self entitled whiners. Looks like you are not better than these "self entitled whiners" | ||
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