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GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 17:43:19
September 16 2013 17:42 GMT
#81
Moar BW players to watch at snipealot stream!!!! I have to confess that I like when they retire and go streaming on afreeca. Still waiting for Bisu's stream.
JD is BONJWA!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 16 2013 17:47 GMT
#82
When's the rookie draft for KeSPA teams?

Is that even still a thing at all?
kiss kiss fall in love
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
September 16 2013 18:00 GMT
#83
gg s2
dumchu
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
September 16 2013 18:02 GMT
#84
If Blizzard had just released SC BW with sc2 graphix and MAYBE 1 new unit for each race.

things would be awesome.

sometimes, fuck blizzard

actually.

all the time

User was warned for this post
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 16 2013 18:08 GMT
#85
On September 17 2013 03:02 Eggi wrote:
If Blizzard had just released SC BW with sc2 graphix and MAYBE 1 new unit for each race.

things would be awesome.

sometimes, fuck blizzard

actually.

all the time

One new unit per race? I can't think of a means of balancing that.
kiss kiss fall in love
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 18:13:15
September 16 2013 18:12 GMT
#86
On September 17 2013 03:02 Eggi wrote:
If Blizzard had just released SC BW with sc2 graphix and MAYBE 1 new unit for each race.

things would be awesome.

sometimes, fuck blizzard

actually.

all the time

You mean with 3D graphics in 640x480 screen :3? Yes, screen size matters too. Also, i have never seen a proof of BW being balanced. I have seen proofs of BW being awesome, but never seen proofs of it being balanced.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 16 2013 18:39 GMT
#87
The skt Zerg noooo
The heart's eternal vow
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 16 2013 18:48 GMT
#88
On September 17 2013 03:02 Eggi wrote:
If Blizzard had just released SC BW with sc2 graphix and MAYBE 1 new unit for each race.

things would be awesome.

sometimes, fuck blizzard

actually.

all the time

no thanks, BW is good as it is imo. Any new units may upset the current balance completely and mess up gameplay(or the reverse). I don't think the new graphics will make that much of a difference although they may draw SCII players who dislike the older graphics to try the game.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 19:03:50
September 16 2013 19:03 GMT
#89
On September 17 2013 03:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 03:02 Eggi wrote:
If Blizzard had just released SC BW with sc2 graphix and MAYBE 1 new unit for each race.

things would be awesome.

sometimes, fuck blizzard

actually.

all the time

You mean with 3D graphics in 640x480 screen :3? Yes, screen size matters too. Also, i have never seen a proof of BW being balanced. I have seen proofs of BW being awesome, but never seen proofs of it being balanced.


Maps are what makes BW balanced. Just search for BW maps and their map stats.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
September 16 2013 19:12 GMT
#90
Shame. He was actually one of the better Zergs on his team. Oh well.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 16 2013 19:18 GMT
#91
On September 17 2013 02:47 IntoTheheart wrote:
When's the rookie draft for KeSPA teams?

Is that even still a thing at all?


Isn't that in spring?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 16 2013 19:28 GMT
#92
On September 17 2013 04:03 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 03:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2013 03:02 Eggi wrote:
If Blizzard had just released SC BW with sc2 graphix and MAYBE 1 new unit for each race.

things would be awesome.

sometimes, fuck blizzard

actually.

all the time

You mean with 3D graphics in 640x480 screen :3? Yes, screen size matters too. Also, i have never seen a proof of BW being balanced. I have seen proofs of BW being awesome, but never seen proofs of it being balanced.


Maps are what makes BW balanced. Just search for BW maps and their map stats.

I heard there was a map named Katrina....
And yes, i know that maps made BW match-ups what they were.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 20:01:33
September 16 2013 20:01 GMT
#93
On September 17 2013 04:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 04:03 darkness wrote:
On September 17 2013 03:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2013 03:02 Eggi wrote:
If Blizzard had just released SC BW with sc2 graphix and MAYBE 1 new unit for each race.

things would be awesome.

sometimes, fuck blizzard

actually.

all the time

You mean with 3D graphics in 640x480 screen :3? Yes, screen size matters too. Also, i have never seen a proof of BW being balanced. I have seen proofs of BW being awesome, but never seen proofs of it being balanced.


Maps are what makes BW balanced. Just search for BW maps and their map stats.

I heard there was a map named Katrina....
And yes, i know that maps made BW match-ups what they were.


Katrina is one of the protoss maps as far as I remember.

Anyway, here's a list of some pro maps.

Destination: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/188_Destination
Fighting Spirit: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/237_Fighting_Spirit
Match Point: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/235_Match_Point
Tau Cross: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/3_Tau_Cross
Andromeda: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/175_Andromeda
Python (very popular): http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/147_Python

As you see, some maps favour a specific race. Others are balanced. It's hard to make a balanced map for every race. So map making was crucial for BW success.
DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
September 16 2013 20:01 GMT
#94
Sad to see all these KeSPA players go. If only they had the balls to say they don't like sc2 and want to play BW instead of saying crap like "need to do military service soon" when it's obvious they're leaving to go back to BW primarily. I also don't even understand what was the point of following the transition to sc2 just to announce retirement not long after. I mean, I'm not a pro but when I'm trying a new game, it doesn't take me a year to see if I will like it or not.
Desire.Discipline.Dedication
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
September 16 2013 20:07 GMT
#95
On September 17 2013 05:01 DPK wrote:
Sad to see all these KeSPA players go. If only they had the balls to say they don't like sc2 and want to play BW instead of saying crap like "need to do military service soon" when it's obvious they're leaving to go back to BW primarily. I also don't even understand what was the point of following the transition to sc2 just to announce retirement not long after. I mean, I'm not a pro but when I'm trying a new game, it doesn't take me a year to see if I will like it or not.


They probably don't want to make their team's business crippled by bashing SC2? We should actually appreciate that.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 16 2013 20:14 GMT
#96
On September 17 2013 05:01 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 04:28 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2013 04:03 darkness wrote:
On September 17 2013 03:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On September 17 2013 03:02 Eggi wrote:
If Blizzard had just released SC BW with sc2 graphix and MAYBE 1 new unit for each race.

things would be awesome.

sometimes, fuck blizzard

actually.

all the time

You mean with 3D graphics in 640x480 screen :3? Yes, screen size matters too. Also, i have never seen a proof of BW being balanced. I have seen proofs of BW being awesome, but never seen proofs of it being balanced.


Maps are what makes BW balanced. Just search for BW maps and their map stats.

I heard there was a map named Katrina....
And yes, i know that maps made BW match-ups what they were.


Katrina is one of the protoss maps as far as I remember.

Anyway, here's a list of some pro maps.

Destination: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/188_Destination
Fighting Spirit: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/237_Fighting_Spirit
Match Point: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/235_Match_Point
Tau Cross: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/3_Tau_Cross
Andromeda: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/175_Andromeda
Python (very popular): http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/147_Python

As you see, some maps favour a specific race. Others are balanced. It's hard to make a balanced map for every race. So map making was crucial for BW success.

I remember well role maps played in BW balancing. Katrina is just a random example of map that favored one of races.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
September 16 2013 20:17 GMT
#97
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/201_Battle_Royal

^.^
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 16 2013 20:19 GMT
#98
On September 17 2013 05:17 N.geNuity wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/201_Battle_Royal

^.^

Talk about balance. I see maps REALLY were screwing balance up :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 16 2013 20:22 GMT
#99
I'll miss you s2, for that one round in proleague when you and Hyuk and soO were randomly pretty good together.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
September 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#100
On September 16 2013 13:43 DeathDyingDoomKiller wrote:
noooo Zergs are all leaving


What? Its been like 75% toss leaving.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
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