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Profile Joined January 2013
Norway10 Posts
September 09 2013 05:17 GMT
#321
Well, time to make tea, read "Revolutionary Magic" (Final Edit by Hot_Bid, check it out) and watch some old vods.

Maybe it's finaly time for PokJu to return to the scene?
phos4
Profile Joined October 2009
Germany226 Posts
September 09 2013 05:19 GMT
#322
this is a sad day...
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 05:24:16
September 09 2013 05:21 GMT
#323
On September 09 2013 13:38 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 13:34 purakushi wrote:
On September 09 2013 11:20 sluggaslamoo wrote:
sigh... I'm starting to think SC2 was the worst thing to happen to Starcraft.


It is.

tbh I have never really understood why the big BW leagues stopped. Even post match fixing scandal OSL's had huge amounts of spectators. Definitely more than SC2 ever has had in Korea. If sponsors started becoming more hesitant they could have just scaled back the tournies. It's not like SC2 has had the best sponsor support either. BW was heavily played in PC bangs up until recently, much more than SC2 ever has. Why did the leagues stop? Most people point to match fixing as the reason but honestly I can't help but feel like Kespa and co were forced to switch by blizzard :/

I'm all for the huge growth of Starcraft in the foreign scene due to SC2, but I still can't really understand why it had to mean BW's death.


After the match-fixing scandal BW was struggling, but doing okay.

Things started going downhill after SC2's release: GOM given exclusive rights to SC2, the Blizzard lawsuit, the legal fights with KeSPA and OGN, the end of MBC Game, the (forced) hybrid proleague and transition to SC2. All of these things weakened the Korean scene beyond recovery, where BW's days were countered and SC2 was not a good enough game (and still not) to pick up the slack. All this gave LoL the perfect opportunity to be the focus of Korean eSports.
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 09 2013 05:22 GMT
#324
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhat
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
September 09 2013 05:22 GMT
#325
dammit

Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
September 09 2013 05:22 GMT
#326
I've been thinking about this for the past couple hours and I still can't get over this...I never was a big bisu fan I loved Jaedong too much but man...it's bisu's choice and I really hope he goes back to Brood War the game I (and presumably he) loves but it's still just so wow unbelievable retirement.../crying on the inside
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
operwolf
Profile Joined April 2008
United States324 Posts
September 09 2013 05:23 GMT
#327
Bisu, you will be missed...
He'll end up dead, because he'll die.
Hangman89
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore43 Posts
September 09 2013 05:25 GMT
#328
Thanks for the memories. finish ur service and come back to us!
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 05:25:12
September 09 2013 05:25 GMT
#329
Guess that's best with no results of any kind so far :o But we'll miss you Bye Bisu! <3
twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 05:28:59
September 09 2013 05:28 GMT
#330
i/we demand a ver-like article of savior on bisu....
-
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
September 09 2013 05:29 GMT
#331
On September 09 2013 11:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
In his honor:


will never forget that game, or the way that he reinvented pvz in brood war

see you bisu, i had some hope that you'll show us the way again, it seems time really goes on...
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
September 09 2013 05:30 GMT
#332
On September 09 2013 13:58 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 13:57 Titusmaster6 wrote:
The man that took HIM down. gl hf Bisu, you're a legend, no SCBW story could be complete without you.


He slayed a bonjwa, and fixed PvZ. Just look at PvZ statistics from before and after Bisu's rise.
Almost every map, during like 2003 - 2006 had 55 - 60% winrates for Zerg in ZvP. After Bisu, it was closer to 50% than it was to 60. Before, it was the reverse.

Just like sAviOr fixed ZvT, and beat NaDa in the OSL, Bisu fixed PvZ, and defeated sAviOr in the MSL at the same time. Poetic.


I feel like we just made such a deep connection. Seriously, broodwar players were my idols at one point...and even though I was never a die hard fan of Bisu, this news today makes me 100 times sadder than Jangbi last week. I don't know why. Fuck life
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
September 09 2013 05:34 GMT
#333
On September 09 2013 14:30 Titusmaster6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 13:58 vOdToasT wrote:
On September 09 2013 13:57 Titusmaster6 wrote:
The man that took HIM down. gl hf Bisu, you're a legend, no SCBW story could be complete without you.


He slayed a bonjwa, and fixed PvZ. Just look at PvZ statistics from before and after Bisu's rise.
Almost every map, during like 2003 - 2006 had 55 - 60% winrates for Zerg in ZvP. After Bisu, it was closer to 50% than it was to 60. Before, it was the reverse.

Just like sAviOr fixed ZvT, and beat NaDa in the OSL, Bisu fixed PvZ, and defeated sAviOr in the MSL at the same time. Poetic.


I feel like we just made such a deep connection. Seriously, broodwar players were my idols at one point...and even though I was never a die hard fan of Bisu, this news today makes me 100 times sadder than Jangbi last week. I don't know why. Fuck life


Keep your eyes out for a Bisu stream. You might get to see him play again, from a first person perspective.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 09 2013 05:38 GMT
#334
:''''''(((((((((
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
iGn1t3
Profile Joined May 2011
Hong Kong73 Posts
September 09 2013 05:38 GMT
#335
Good luck and see you around, Bisu!
I lose today to win tomorrow.
Nadagast
Profile Joined January 2009
United States245 Posts
September 09 2013 05:40 GMT
#336
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11495 Posts
September 09 2013 05:40 GMT
#337
On September 09 2013 14:06 brieN wrote:
i like how people care about old players who suck at sc2 still yet dont really care about when good players do....

Think about your favourite SC2 player if all the SC2 leagues and teams switched to MOBA's. Now add several extra years of attachment to said player. (5-6 years for me, longer for some.) You would probably also care.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mar a Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
September 09 2013 05:40 GMT
#338
On September 09 2013 14:34 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 14:30 Titusmaster6 wrote:
On September 09 2013 13:58 vOdToasT wrote:
On September 09 2013 13:57 Titusmaster6 wrote:
The man that took HIM down. gl hf Bisu, you're a legend, no SCBW story could be complete without you.


He slayed a bonjwa, and fixed PvZ. Just look at PvZ statistics from before and after Bisu's rise.
Almost every map, during like 2003 - 2006 had 55 - 60% winrates for Zerg in ZvP. After Bisu, it was closer to 50% than it was to 60. Before, it was the reverse.

Just like sAviOr fixed ZvT, and beat NaDa in the OSL, Bisu fixed PvZ, and defeated sAviOr in the MSL at the same time. Poetic.


I feel like we just made such a deep connection. Seriously, broodwar players were my idols at one point...and even though I was never a die hard fan of Bisu, this news today makes me 100 times sadder than Jangbi last week. I don't know why. Fuck life


Keep your eyes out for a Bisu stream. You might get to see him play again, from a first person perspective.


"I wish, I wish, with all my heart, to fly with dragons in a land afar."
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4141 Posts
September 09 2013 05:45 GMT
#339
oh man this really sucks he's a BW icon
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 09 2013 05:46 GMT
#340
On September 09 2013 14:05 PhOeniX[MinD] wrote:
thats so sad bisu was a big part of starcraft, but this makes me wonder who is next stork, free, jaehoon or maybe effort?

jaehoon already retired and is streaming right now actually on afreeca(snipealot stream on the side restreams >). I don't doubt Bisu will stream soon enough although I do wonder if he will eventually go to the military. He's going to lose his good looks if he loses his hair lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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