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Code S - Ro32 Group E Preview/D Recap (Season 3)

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Code S - Ro32 Group E Preview/D Recap (Season 3)

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Graphics bywo1fwood
September 4th, 2013 22:06 GMT
2013 GSL Season 2

WCS Korea Season 3
GSL Code S




Ro32 - Group D Recap
Maru and Sleep advance.


Ro32 - Group E Preview
First, Jjakji, Hyvaa, Flash


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Ro32 Group D Recap

Maru and Sleep advance to the Ro16

by Waxangel

After a disappointing performance at the WCS Season 2 finals, (T)MaruPrime took the first step on his road to recovery by advancing to the Ro16 in Code S. While there was not much room to impress against one of the weaker groups of the Ro32 containing (Z)Sleep, (T)Bbyong, Maru put in a decent performance nonetheless.

Maru struggled more than some would have expected against his hand-picked first opponent (Z)Azubu.Sleep (the top two players of the previous tournament get to pick their first Ro32 opponent), but escaped with a 2 - 1 victory. While game one played out as a textbook MMM beatdown, Sleep was able to strike back with a strong zergling-baneling all-in in game two. Maru was briefly on the ropes in game three as his early reapers failed to do significant damage, but Sleep completely missed the blue-flame hellion follow-up and paid the price by losing a crippling number of drones.

Maru moved on to the winners match to face (T)CJ_Bbyong, who had come up after outplaying (T)MVP.Dream handily in the early game. Unfortunately for Bbyong, he would have the tables turned on him as Maru caused him a significant amount of pain with a proxy marauder rush in game one. Dream gathered himself for a big counter-attack, but Maru easily held with superior micro and rolled his advantage into a win. Maru then showed he could get it done in a macro game as well on new map Yeonsu, using his bio-tank to absolutely crush Bbyong's reckless mech push to take first place in the group.

Ro32 - Group D
1.(T)MaruPrime2 - 0
2.(Z)Azubu.Sleep2 - 1
3.(T)CJ_Bbyong1 - 2
4.(T)MVP.Dream0 - 2


Detailed results from Live Report Thread by Karasaki.
+ Show Spoiler [Click for Detailed Results] +
Maru vs Sleep
(T)Maru <Derelict Watcher> (Z)Sleep
(T)Maru <Polar Night> (Z)Sleep
(T)Maru <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)Sleep

Maru wins 2-1!

Dream vs Bbyong
(T)Dream <Frost> (T)Bbyong
(T)Dream <Yeonsu> (T)Bbyong
(T)Dream <> (T)Bbyong

Bbyong wins 2-0!

Winners' Match
(T)Maru <Bel'Shir Vestige> (T)Bbyong
(T)Maru <Frost> (T)Bbyong
(T)Maru <> (T)Bbyong

Maru wins 2-0!

Losers' Match
(Z)Sleep <Bel'Shir Vestige> (T)Dream
(Z)Sleep <Akilon Wastes> (T)Dream
(Z)Sleep <Derelict Watcher> (T)Dream

Sleep wins 2-1!

Final Match
(T)Bbyong <Yeonsu> (Z)Sleep
(T)Bbyong <Frost> (Z)Sleep
(T)Bbyong <Derelict Watcher> (Z)Sleep

Sleep wins 2-1!



Maru and Sleep advance to WCS KR GSL Ro16!

Down in the loser's match, (Z)Azubu.Sleep managed to stay alive with a surprise win over MVP's hot prospect (T)Dream. Many had been been impressed with Dream's performances in GSTL and ATC, but he failed to bring his best form against Sleep. Another baneling-ling bust handed Sleep a win in game one, and though Dream was able to recover on point on Akilon Wastes, he was overwhelmed by Sleep's great muta-ling-bane play on the final map.

Sleep then faced the third and final Terran player of the group, Bbyong, with the last remaining Ro16 ticket up for grabs. The series started out in bizarre fashion with Bbyong going for what could only be called a "marine-medivac-hellion-battlecruiser all-in" off of two bases. While the Sleep seemed to struggle slightly against the initial push, his constant stream of reinforcements was able to eventually overwhelm Bbyong and force the GG. Sleep then went for his own all-in in game two—the same baneling-ling all-in that had bested Maru and Dream—but it was thwarted by Bbyong and his retro hellion-banshee opener. Bbyong made a successful mech transition after that, and was able to run over Sleep to tie up the series.

With everything on the line on Derelict Watcher, Sleep was once again able to bring some impressive muta-ling-bane play to win an upset. Much like Dream, many would have favored Bbyong against Sleep in a straight up MMM vs. muta-ling-bane fight, but the Azubu Zerg showed great defense and engagements to overcome his Terran opponent. After sweeping away several waves of Terran forces, Sleep counter-attacked with a huge group of muta-ling-bane to force the final GG and book an Ro16 spot in his very first Code S appearance.


PartinG Notes

(T)Maru: This was the bare minimum Maru could have done to avoid being called another Seed, Sniper, Jjakji, etc. The Ro16 should be a much more interesting test of his skills.

(Z)Sleep: Sleep's solid ZvT was a pleasant surprise, considering we've barely seen him play the match-up (and he's lost when he has). It's hard to say his games were particularly impressive, with his macro consistently suffering and his creep spread not looking great. But his mine-defusing was pretty good, he picked good fights, and he advanced at the end of the day.

(T)Bbyong: Bbyong played about as well most people expected, with him being the new Ensnare/Virus/Terran Gatekeeper of Code S and all. He happily exposed Dream's early game TvT weaknesses, got crushed by a superior player in Maru, and just barely failed to get into the Ro16 at the end of a tough game. Oh, and he went for a BATTLECRUISER ALL-IN, which has greatly improved our opinion of him.

(T)Dream: It's no secret that we've been in love with Dream's potential for a long time, so it's always disappointing when he falls flat like this. Consistency and TvT are Dream's major problems, but we wouldn't be surprised to see him back in Code S if he gets the right kind of brackets.


Ro32: Group E Preview

(P)IM_First, (T)mYi.jjakji, (Z)Soul_hyvaa, (T)KT_Flash

by Lichter

Realization, redemption, and resurrection. All the players in Group E have something to prove and much to gain in the ultimate WCS Korea Season before the Grand Finals at Blizzcon. Only (P)First (at 19th as of writing) has a shot of making it to Blizzcon barring at least a second place finish in WCS Korea or the Season 3 finals, but each player will have more than an invitation at stake in today’s games.

(P)IM_First is arguablyclearly the most accomplished player in Group E. He entered the OSL a darkhorse to win the tournament—a player that everyone knew had both the potential and the safe play style to do it—even as a complete royal roader. It looked like OSL was going to be his breakthrough tournament after he advanced to the Round of 8 and drew (T)Bomber in his favored matchup, but he was unceremoniously dumped out 0 - 3 in surprising fashion. The player he is most compared to, SKT T1's safety-first Protoss (P)Rain, dismantled (T)Bomber in the next round and everyone was once again left wondering if this was First’s ceiling.

First bounced back by beating both (Z)Symbol and (T)SuperNova in the 5th place matches to earn his trip to Europe where he once again looked good in the group stages, but his "breakthrough moment" (not like he won IEM Katowice or anything) eluded him once more as he struggled to advance past (T)aLive and was crushed by a resurgent (Z)Jaedong in the semis. Despite being considered a top Protoss player, (P)First has struggled to perform as the stakes grow higher. Will he finally realize his potential, or will he cement his place as a ‘really good but not good enough to win it all’ tier of Code S player?

In his initial match, he faces a player out to prove that he wasn’t just a fluke. NSH mYi.(T)jjakji is finally back in Code S after 6 seasons lost in the “Irrelevant Champ” abyss (which currently contains (Z)Sniper and (P)Seed, soon to include (Z)RorO). 6 seasons doesn’t sound very long until you realize his last Code S appearance was in April 2012, more than a year ago.

We might think of him as a SC2 veteran or old timer, but aside from that one miraculous triumph, (T)jjakji has actually been conspicuously absent for most of the game’s history, with only four Code S appearances total. His recovery has been a slow process, but just like his November 2011 run, we perhaps we could be in for a surprise? After all, he’s gone straight from Code B to Challenger to Code S in a single season. Still, no one is really talking about his championship potential. His Challenger League games didn’t look good as he survived a series vs. an aggressive CJ (P)Trust and got utterly demolished by a struggling (Z)ST_Life. His Up&Down games looked more impressive as he advanced in 1st place—winning against 3 Zergs and losing to (P)Hurricane due to a failed proxy 2rax—though he did show a tendency to lose concentration and miss his micro during high intensity moments. Basically he looks like the (T)jjakji of November 2011. Maybe this is the redemptive sequel we’ve been waiting for.

In the other starting match we have (Z)Soul_hyvaa versus (T)KT_Flash, two players whose situations are more similar than you might think. (Z)hyvaa, the Soul Survivor, the Injustice Leaguer, the famed cheeser, has so far done well for himself by qualifying for a second successive Premier League. Unfortunately, the dissolution of STX’s sponsorship of SouL left him to look for new opportunities, but for now it seems like he's settled down on just plain ol' SouL. It's easy to see why he may have been a hard sell to prospective employers despite his Premier League credentials, as he only has a winrate of 48% (22-24) in HotS. With so many decent, good, or great ex-BW players retiring in the Proleague off-season, this might be (Z)hyvaa’s last chance to make a real impact in his SC2 career.

His opponent is another middling Code S player hoping to show his SC2 career hasn’t dried up. Yup, it’s (T)KT_Flash. With only 2 Round of 16 exits and a 2nd place at the Asian Indoor Games since his silver at MLG Winter Championship back in March, (T)Flash hasn’t done much in SC2 lately. While that's blasphemous to his reputation as 'God,' it’s true. Flash hasn’t even played a televised game since July 30. For a player nicknamed God and the Ultimate Weapon, that’s not what we’ve come to expect from him. Heck, even (Z)Jaedong has had more success in the last few months (who would have thought we’d be saying that?). This is Flash's last chance to make a mark in 2013 and try to make it to Blizzcon as he sits in 44th place with 800 points. A championship run here and a good result at the Season 3 Finals could yet catapult him up the rankings, but no one can blame you for being a nonbeliever.

Overall, expect (T)Flash and (P)First to advance in whatever order. Both have successful winrates in their relevant matchups and cruised past their Round of 32 groups last season in Best of 1s. (Z)hyvaa is and always will be a dangerous opponent, but (P)First is known for safe play and (T)Flash will be desperate to make something of Season 3 (so don’t expect him to go blind 14cc every game). The wild card of the group is (T)jjakji because we have very little to go on with only 36 games played (and only 9 in WCS). His TvZ looked strong in his Up&Down games (3-0 vZ)—a macro game vs (Z)KangHo, a successful roach rush defense with 3CCs vs (Z)EffOrt, a timing attack vs (Z)Shine—so he should be favored against hyvaa. Both First and Flash have had vT woes recently, especially against Bomber, so jjakji will have a shot of pulling a rabbit out of his hat. It’s unlikely, but not much more than his GSL title run.

Overall Predictions
(P)First > (T)jjakji
(Z)hyvaa < (T)Flash

(P)First < (T)Flash
(Z)hyvaa < (T)jjakji

(P)First > (T)jjakji

(T)Flash and (P)First advance.

Progamer Pokedex: By Popular Request

by monk

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Incredible Miracle certainly has no shortage of Water-based Protoss Pokemon with shells. Of those, First is Cloyster! The most defensively based Pokemon of original 151, Cloyster, in the olden days, often relied on his opponents tiring themselves out when they tried to break his near-indestructible shell.

More recently, Cloyster has learned some neat new tricks, one of them being a new move in the form of Shell Smash. By using a turn to setup, it increases all its offenses at the cost of his formidable defenses. Though somewhat more gimmicky and though he sometimes falls flat on his face when using it, when his opponents allow him the freedom to take such risks, the results can be miraculous.

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Jjakji is Moltres! Reborn in a flash of flames, Moltres is the phoenix of the first generation. Though he was once one of the best of his time, Moltres sports several glaring weaknesses that make him an unpredictable Pokemon in terms of battling results. Though not nearly as good or as legendary as his cousin, Ho-oh, Moltres' still formidable regenerative powers allow him to come back into the scene when all have pronounced him irrelevant.

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Hyvaa is Persian! Always at Team Rocket Boss Giovanni's side, Persian was perhaps the first "evil" Pokemon. Though he's mainly known for his tricks and deception, he's a surprisingly capable battler when push comes to shove. And if all else fails, he can still score an upset with a lucky critical hit from his signature Slash attack.

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Flash is Dragonite! In the first generation, Dragonite was a legendary Pokemon. In fact, it was one of THE most legendary Pokemon, so rare that the famed researcher Bill had never seen one and many of Team Rocket's plans revolved around obtaining one (or a pre-evolved form). But as the Pokemon world grew larger, the anime retcon'd both Dragonite's ability and rarity (They even gave one to a main character). Though still powerful and pseudo-legendary, Dragonite was now one of many, a situation he was not used to in Generation I.

Writers: lichter, monk, and Waxangel
Graphics: wo1fwood.
Editor: Waxangel.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 22:11:17
September 04 2013 22:08 GMT
#2
The flash / Dragonite analogy is pretty clever.

and yeah I have no shame to admit that I don't really read anything beside the results and the pokemon analogies.
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 04 2013 22:19 GMT
#3
The funny thing is that if they were those pokemon, First still demolishes the group with water attacks vs moltres and ice attacks vs dragonite.

Looking forward to seeing him smash his opponents in starcraft too.
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 04 2013 22:20 GMT
#4
Potential for a Lichter curse scares me. D: I'm not even sure what the Lichter prediction curse will be yet, but I'm sure there'll be one and it'll be bad for IM players.

I like First being Cloyster! Though Monk didn't flesh it out, Cloyster is both an OU pokemon, as well as a set-up sweeper with poor defense towards some thing (bad SpD) but amazing defense against other things (Incredible Def).
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
September 04 2013 22:23 GMT
#5
I think it's cute someone thinks flash won't go 14cc
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jackslings
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5 Posts
September 04 2013 22:25 GMT
#6
i really like jjakji and want him to go 2-0 but i think he will lose 1-2. on the other hand flash hasn't seemed up to par lately and i feel like first could beat him to come out on top.
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Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
September 04 2013 22:27 GMT
#7
The text in between is pretty good too haha, I'm going for Flash/First as well but we'll see what happens (:
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 22:28:09
September 04 2013 22:27 GMT
#8
First will go 4-0 or 1-4. He's inconsistent like that D;

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Germany9534 Posts
September 04 2013 22:30 GMT
#9
Hyvaa 4-0 confirmed
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Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
September 04 2013 22:33 GMT
#10
Flash will go 14 CC blind and lose first game of the night. Thats my prediction
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South Africa7387 Posts
September 04 2013 22:33 GMT
#11
Go flash!
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Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
September 04 2013 22:36 GMT
#12
This group will be interesting, i'm hopeful that hyvaa will pull an upset and come out of this group, he is going to need to if he wishes to continue in his career. With Soul dying and a scene met with disbanding teams and retiring players, he might have some trouble finding a team if he doesn't show some major success soon.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
September 04 2013 22:37 GMT
#13
Well with Proleague over, Flash has all the time in the world to focus exclusively on his personal championships, I'd expect to see the best plays of SC2 out of him during this brief pause, and of course seeing Flash even more awesome then he is now is an exciting (and frightening) thought.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44201 Posts
September 04 2013 22:37 GMT
#14
i want "evil" and "God" to get out of the group ..


so gogo dragonite and persian !
this is a quote
redpeople
Profile Joined July 2013
70 Posts
September 04 2013 22:38 GMT
#15
PartinG Notes? What does it have to do with PartinG?
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DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
September 04 2013 22:40 GMT
#16
On September 05 2013 07:08 Noocta wrote:
The flash / Dragonite analogy is pretty clever.

and yeah I have no shame to admit that I don't really read anything beside the results and the pokemon analogies.


For me it's the complete opposite. Couldn't care less about this useless stuff and don't understand why it's there. As someone who never listen/read pokemon, I don't understand anything about them and I just feel like it's too childish to be worth making comparison between them and sc2 progamers... No offense to anyone but that's just how I feel. It just doesn't feel serious.
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 22:42:19
September 04 2013 22:41 GMT
#17
Cloyster is surprisingly strong for a forgotten Generation I pokemon. I had one in my battle team for pokemon white and it can sweep most teams by itself, only falling to some specific counters. One of my personal victories was that I came up with the concept of using a King's Rock for Cloyster due to its attacks that connect 5 times always, which has a 40% chance of flinching the opponent. I couldn't find this on smogon anywhere, so it's like I'm innovative. (or most likely, it's a bad set-up )
On September 05 2013 07:40 DPK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 07:08 Noocta wrote:
The flash / Dragonite analogy is pretty clever.

and yeah I have no shame to admit that I don't really read anything beside the results and the pokemon analogies.


For me it's the complete opposite. Couldn't care less about this useless stuff and don't understand why it's there. As someone who never listen/read pokemon, I don't understand anything about them and I just feel like it's too childish to be worth making comparison between them and sc2 progamers... No offense to anyone but that's just how I feel. It just doesn't feel serious.

You have no soul. :o

In any case, in the anime dragonite is barely taller than Ash these days, quite a fall for a legendary dragon.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Like a Boss
Profile Joined January 2011
502 Posts
September 04 2013 22:42 GMT
#18
I wonder what pokemon is jaedong and bisu.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 22:44:09
September 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#19
On September 05 2013 07:41 Grumbels wrote:
Cloyster is surprisingly strong for a forgotten Generation I pokemon. I had one in my battle team for pokemon white and it can sweep most teams by itself, only falling to some specific counters. One of my personal victories was that I came up with the concept of using a King's Rock for Cloyster due to its attacks that connect 5 times always, which has a 40% chance of flinching the opponent. I couldn't find this on smogon anywhere, so it's like I'm innovative. (or most likely, it's a bad set-up )
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 07:40 DPK wrote:
On September 05 2013 07:08 Noocta wrote:
The flash / Dragonite analogy is pretty clever.

and yeah I have no shame to admit that I don't really read anything beside the results and the pokemon analogies.


For me it's the complete opposite. Couldn't care less about this useless stuff and don't understand why it's there. As someone who never listen/read pokemon, I don't understand anything about them and I just feel like it's too childish to be worth making comparison between them and sc2 progamers... No offense to anyone but that's just how I feel. It just doesn't feel serious.

You have no soul. :o

In any case, in the anime dragonite is barely taller than Ash these days, quite a fall for a legendary dragon.

It's on smogon. Sorry to disappoint.
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
September 04 2013 22:45 GMT
#20
And how can First be 'clearly' the most accomplished player in this group when Flash had the most wins and best performances in proleague, which TL constantly tells us is the most important tournament?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
September 04 2013 22:48 GMT
#21
On September 05 2013 07:43 monk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 07:41 Grumbels wrote:
Cloyster is surprisingly strong for a forgotten Generation I pokemon. I had one in my battle team for pokemon white and it can sweep most teams by itself, only falling to some specific counters. One of my personal victories was that I came up with the concept of using a King's Rock for Cloyster due to its attacks that connect 5 times always, which has a 40% chance of flinching the opponent. I couldn't find this on smogon anywhere, so it's like I'm innovative. (or most likely, it's a bad set-up )
On September 05 2013 07:40 DPK wrote:
On September 05 2013 07:08 Noocta wrote:
The flash / Dragonite analogy is pretty clever.

and yeah I have no shame to admit that I don't really read anything beside the results and the pokemon analogies.


For me it's the complete opposite. Couldn't care less about this useless stuff and don't understand why it's there. As someone who never listen/read pokemon, I don't understand anything about them and I just feel like it's too childish to be worth making comparison between them and sc2 progamers... No offense to anyone but that's just how I feel. It just doesn't feel serious.

You have no soul. :o

In any case, in the anime dragonite is barely taller than Ash these days, quite a fall for a legendary dragon.

It's on smogon. Sorry to disappoint.

It wasn't there when I played pokemon white six months ago. See here. But indeed, they have an entry for that now, I guess I was ahead of the pokemon metagame. ^_^
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 22:49:49
September 04 2013 22:49 GMT
#22
Thanks for the preview/recap!
woah lichter writing :D
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hipo
Profile Joined November 2010
France482 Posts
September 04 2013 22:49 GMT
#23
On September 05 2013 07:45 Grumbels wrote:
And how can First be 'clearly' the most accomplished player in this group when Flash had the most wins and best performances in proleague, which TL constantly tells us is the most important tournament?

The most accomplished player in this group is Jjakji! Don't forget that unlike Flash and First, he actually won a GSL...
Anyway, I'm rooting for him and as long as he pull enought SCV vs First, he shall be able to make it to the RO16.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
September 04 2013 22:53 GMT
#24
Hoping Flash makes it out with a stellar performance, and that First crashes and burns in a similar fashion.

Flash and Jjakji advancing would be cool.
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
September 04 2013 22:55 GMT
#25
On September 05 2013 07:45 Grumbels wrote:
And how can First be 'clearly' the most accomplished player in this group when Flash had the most wins and best performances in proleague, which TL constantly tells us is the most important tournament?


On an individual basis First is arguably more accomplished, having won IEM Katowice, gotten far into tournaments and helped his team a lot in GSTL, Flash only has his PL result, he has only made two RO16s, and has 1 silver from MLG. I hope Flash can turn on God mode now and blast his way trough everyone and everything given that there is no PL to distract him.
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LittleRedBoy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States229 Posts
September 04 2013 23:01 GMT
#26
I guess no one is Mewtwo and Flash isn't Arceus?
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
September 04 2013 23:13 GMT
#27
Two minor issues. One is that First's appearance late on the seen (he only switched to SC2 in early 2012) seems to hint at a later-gen defensive poke. Maybe Aggron or Bastiodon, hinting at how his defense is surprisingly vulnerable to the right opponents. The second issue it that Dragonite was never formally designated as legendary, even in the first generation. The only exception was in the anime, and only one episode, which was contradicted by the movie ending the same season, at that. The commonly-accepted term is actually pseudo-legendary.

In relevant news, Hyvaa is going to crit-hit Flash and make everyone hate him even more.
First > Jjakji
Flash < Hyvaa
First > Hyvaa
Flash > Jjakji
Jjakji < Hyvaa
First and Hyvaa advance.
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
September 04 2013 23:13 GMT
#28
maru maru maru!
rip prime
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 04 2013 23:19 GMT
#29
Should be Flash and First on paper, but wouldn't be surprised to see hyvaa pull off something to squeak through in 2nd place. I don't think jjakji has it in him to get out of this group. He'll probably stick around Code S Ro32 level.
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Osiccor
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada128 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 23:23:58
September 04 2013 23:20 GMT
#30
Love the Flash Dragonite comparison

On September 05 2013 08:01 LittleRedBoy wrote:
I guess no one is Mewtwo and Flash isn't Arceus?

I don't think a lot of people (including me) know Pokemon past generation 2 or 3 expect for the really famous starters. So I like it that the writer are staying away from there.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 23:22:15
September 04 2013 23:21 GMT
#31
I figured Flash would be Mewtwo actually. Without a doubt the best 1st gen Pokemon(sc1), still top-tier, but likely not the best or even 2nd best anymore. Idk, maybe Mewtwo still is a the best, I mean I quit after gen 3 when I was 13 lol..

Just seems like when you have 309048309 legendary pokemon running around now that Mewtwo wouldn't still be the best. I mean there's even a god pokemon these days...
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
September 04 2013 23:26 GMT
#32
I guess should Flash win this season he will either become Celebi or Dialga (probably Arceus though)

bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
September 04 2013 23:27 GMT
#33
On September 05 2013 08:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I figured Flash would be Mewtwo actually. Without a doubt the best 1st gen Pokemon(sc1), still top-tier, but likely not the best or even 2nd best anymore. Idk, maybe Mewtwo still is a the best, I mean I quit after gen 3 when I was 13 lol..

Just seems like when you have 309048309 legendary pokemon running around now that Mewtwo wouldn't still be the best. I mean there's even a god pokemon these days...


Indeed, I was pretty shocked Flash wasn't Arceus. That said, I think the writer of the pokedex has a penchant for the first 151 and is trying to align most progamers to that. I mean, 32 people, not like they're short of choice.
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YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
September 04 2013 23:28 GMT
#34
On September 05 2013 07:08 Noocta wrote:
The flash / Dragonite analogy is pretty clever.

and yeah I have no shame to admit that I don't really read anything beside the results and the pokemon analogies.


When my eyes are tired and I see a wall of text with lots of players names I do the same. Usually I will read all of it though
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MiracleBanana
Profile Joined August 2013
3 Posts
September 04 2013 23:35 GMT
#35
Flash looks like ForGG in that shot...
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
September 04 2013 23:36 GMT
#36
Gogo Flash!
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FoShao
Profile Joined November 2012
United States256 Posts
September 04 2013 23:43 GMT
#37
Dragonite OP! lets go Flash
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
September 04 2013 23:43 GMT
#38
Flash and Hyvaa fighting!
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
September 04 2013 23:47 GMT
#39
On September 05 2013 08:13 Pontius Pirate wrote:
Two minor issues. One is that First's appearance late on the seen (he only switched to SC2 in early 2012) seems to hint at a later-gen defensive poke. Maybe Aggron or Bastiodon, hinting at how his defense is surprisingly vulnerable to the right opponents. The second issue it that Dragonite was never formally designated as legendary, even in the first generation. The only exception was in the anime, and only one episode, which was contradicted by the movie ending the same season, at that. The commonly-accepted term is actually pseudo-legendary.

In relevant news, Hyvaa is going to crit-hit Flash and make everyone hate him even more.
First > Jjakji
Flash < Hyvaa
First > Hyvaa
Flash > Jjakji
Jjakji < Hyvaa
First and Hyvaa advance.

Off the top of my head, Dragonite was referenced as legendary/super incredibly rare in the Bill episode, the banned dratini/tauros episode, and the ditto episode.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 04 2013 23:50 GMT
#40
Come on Flash! It'd be a shame to see you not live up to your reputation and legendary status!
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
September 05 2013 00:26 GMT
#41
On September 05 2013 07:38 redpeople wrote:
PartinG Notes? What does it have to do with PartinG?


Guessing it was subconscious lol.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 05 2013 00:30 GMT
#42
Since when is lichter a writer ? :o
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 00:40:33
September 05 2013 00:33 GMT
#43
I hope Flash wins the global finals 2013, retires saying lack of interest in the game, and starts playing BW again.
T P Z sagi
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 00:38:15
September 05 2013 00:38 GMT
#44
Flash is gonna roll over everyone.

Then first,i guess...
RIP MKP
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
September 05 2013 00:44 GMT
#45
On September 05 2013 09:33 purakushi wrote:
I hope Flash wins the global finals 2013, retires saying lack of interest in the game, and starts playing BW again.


Lol he will not retire if he wins just to prove some point. But really hope for Flash to win KR this season. Would be a huge boost to the SC2 morale.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
September 05 2013 00:56 GMT
#46
Group D was incredibly disappointing in terms of quality (a sign that WCS EU and NA are diluting the GSL's level of play?).
Luckily E looks a ton better in that regard Should be First and Flash making it out.
Get off my lawn, young punks
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 01:00 GMT
#47
On September 05 2013 09:30 Boucot wrote:
Since when is lichter a writer ? :o


Since today apparently :o
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theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
September 05 2013 01:15 GMT
#48
On September 05 2013 09:33 purakushi wrote:
I hope Flash wins the global finals 2013, retires saying lack of interest in the game, and starts playing BW again.


wouldn't this be nice lol
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DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
September 05 2013 01:21 GMT
#49
Flash will lose a heart-breaking final set against hyvaa, and as a result will re-evaluate his options... nek minnit Liquid.Flash.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 01:23 GMT
#50
Everyone is counting out jjakji

Everything is going according to plan
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 05 2013 01:53 GMT
#51
On September 05 2013 10:00 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 09:30 Boucot wrote:
Since when is lichter a writer ? :o


Since today apparently :o

Glad for you, congrats !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 01:58 GMT
#52
On September 05 2013 10:53 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:00 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2013 09:30 Boucot wrote:
Since when is lichter a writer ? :o


Since today apparently :o

Glad for you, congrats !


Waxy and plexa wanted more slaves T_T
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Windexlol
Profile Joined May 2013
United States222 Posts
September 05 2013 02:01 GMT
#53
God needs to go blind 14 cc half of his games and advance first in this group, and then he will be on the path to our worship again!
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 05 2013 02:53 GMT
#54
Comeon Flash ! This seasons is yours!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
September 05 2013 03:54 GMT
#55
Last nights group was pretty fun, tonight should be even better!

Love the pokemon stuff ^_^
TimBo_
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany7 Posts
September 05 2013 03:59 GMT
#56
was my first time seeing maru. pretty convincing control.
there is no Quote
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
September 05 2013 04:04 GMT
#57
I'm pretty sure hyvaa can (will?) cheese Flash out of this. I'm not so sure God will make it through.
astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
September 05 2013 05:20 GMT
#58
Speaking of Flash and how Jaedong has been more successful, what's going on with Bisu? He played in less than a handful of Proleague matches during the season if I remember correctly.
There is no victory without the blessing of god, and there is no god but Madlife.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
September 05 2013 05:26 GMT
#59
Am I a bad Terran if I root for Jjakji but not so much for Flash?
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 05 2013 05:33 GMT
#60
LICHTEEEEER
AdministratorBreak the chains
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 05:36:50
September 05 2013 05:35 GMT
#61
JJAKJI JJAKJI JJAKJI IM SO HYPED FOR JJAKJIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

So glad he got a cool Pokemon like moltres :DDDDDD

Throw away your ultralisk and get a pen lichter!!!!! Or get an ultralisk holding a pen.
jjakji fan
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
September 05 2013 06:10 GMT
#62
wouldn't mind seeing jjakji make a come back appearance in the scene
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
September 05 2013 06:14 GMT
#63
Picking Flash over First seems pretty weird considering their latest results.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 06:20 GMT
#64
On September 05 2013 15:14 Daswollvieh wrote:
Picking Flash over First seems pretty weird considering their latest results.


If Flash loses early this season I am giving up on him, that's why
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 05 2013 06:21 GMT
#65
On September 05 2013 15:14 Daswollvieh wrote:
Picking Flash over First seems pretty weird considering their latest results.


You'd think that, but First has this ugly habit of inconsistency :/

He showed it throughout the regionals too.
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Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
September 05 2013 06:31 GMT
#66
Good read, thanks for the pokemon anagoly ;-)
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 06:49:54
September 05 2013 06:34 GMT
#67
On September 05 2013 07:06 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
"This is Flash's last chance to make a mark in 2013"

Flash takes part in Dreamhack Bukarest – Yeah!!!
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
WoodenSky
Profile Joined September 2013
France66 Posts
September 05 2013 06:56 GMT
#68
Great Flash/Dragonite analogy. Go Lee Young Ho
sickless
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation36 Posts
September 05 2013 07:14 GMT
#69
even jaedong? lol
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1977 Posts
September 05 2013 07:16 GMT
#70
Why his last chance? Will he retire?
Total Annihilation Zero
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 05 2013 07:25 GMT
#71
On September 05 2013 16:16 TaShadan wrote:
Why his last chance? Will he retire?

Last chance to go to Blizzcon or have any deep run in WCS in general.
Pinnacle55
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore173 Posts
September 05 2013 07:50 GMT
#72
I'll be honest, I come here solely for the Pokemon section.
There is hopeful symbolism in the fact that flags do not wave in a vacuum.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 07:56 GMT
#73
On September 05 2013 16:16 TaShadan wrote:
Why his last chance? Will he retire?


If 2013 ends up being a bust for him I am worried he will lose passion
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Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
September 05 2013 08:28 GMT
#74
Great write up guys <3

I'm totally hyped !
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
September 05 2013 08:32 GMT
#75
On September 05 2013 16:56 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 16:16 TaShadan wrote:
Why his last chance? Will he retire?


If 2013 ends up being a bust for him I am worried he will lose passion


I thought it was more the last chance to make Blizzcon
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 08:36 GMT
#76
On September 05 2013 17:32 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 16:56 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2013 16:16 TaShadan wrote:
Why his last chance? Will he retire?


If 2013 ends up being a bust for him I am worried he will lose passion


I thought it was more the last chance to make Blizzcon


Mostly that, but I am also worried about him losing interest in the game if he doesn't have success with it.
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Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
September 05 2013 12:00 GMT
#77
On September 05 2013 17:36 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 17:32 liberate71 wrote:
On September 05 2013 16:56 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2013 16:16 TaShadan wrote:
Why his last chance? Will he retire?


If 2013 ends up being a bust for him I am worried he will lose passion


I thought it was more the last chance to make Blizzcon


Mostly that, but I am also worried about him losing interest in the game if he doesn't have success with it.


I don't really see that happening. Flash was the best player of broodwar I don't see him giving up on game he switched just because he didn't get championship in couple seasons of GSL. Flash has been better and better every season and don't forget he was the most wins player in proleague.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
September 05 2013 14:54 GMT
#78
On September 05 2013 16:56 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 16:16 TaShadan wrote:
Why his last chance? Will he retire?


If 2013 ends up being a bust for him I am worried he will lose passion


He's been through much harder times than this. Whether he likes the game, who knows? But I don't think his results will cause him to lose interest.
BW forever || Thall
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
September 05 2013 14:56 GMT
#79
Very close group E prediction. Jjakji managed to edge out First though.
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
September 05 2013 15:10 GMT
#80
On September 05 2013 23:54 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 16:56 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2013 16:16 TaShadan wrote:
Why his last chance? Will he retire?


If 2013 ends up being a bust for him I am worried he will lose passion


He's been through much harder times than this. Whether he likes the game, who knows? But I don't think his results will cause him to lose interest.


Lots of people are not aware of Flash's championship drought before becoming "god". It was the worst era of KTFlash, having to carry the weight of the whole team in Proleague, while being the best player to not win individual tournaments. As a Flash fan, it was painful to see him constantly drained out. If he was able to prevail from that and rise and become the most dominant player in BW history, he can handle HotS just fine. The positive sign is that he keeps improving.

And if he quits, well, there's always SOSPA
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4368 Posts
September 05 2013 16:19 GMT
#81
Take HUGE issue with your statement that it is ludicrous that Jaedong has achieved more than Flash. He was a god in his own right and had extended periods where Flash was his bitch
Sucker for nostalgia
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 16:49 GMT
#82
I was talking about SC2 bros
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kaka4lyfe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States4 Posts
September 05 2013 17:14 GMT
#83
I think it's really stupid how the GSL is the only WCS that doesn't have free VODS... can't watch my flash v.v
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
September 05 2013 17:56 GMT
#84
On September 06 2013 01:49 lichter wrote:
I was talking about SC2 bros


That's right man, why would Flash give up because he didn't win one championship?
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
September 05 2013 18:18 GMT
#85
Flash will win WCS hands down. there will be no stopping him. we might see him drop a game here n there. but for the most part he will dominate like there is no tommorrow.
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