After a disappointing performance at the WCS Season 2 finals, MaruPrime took the first step on his road to recovery by advancing to the Ro16 in Code S. While there was not much room to impress against one of the weaker groups of the Ro32 containing Sleep, Bbyong, Maru put in a decent performance nonetheless.
Maru struggled more than some would have expected against his hand-picked first opponent Azubu.Sleep (the top two players of the previous tournament get to pick their first Ro32 opponent), but escaped with a 2 - 1 victory. While game one played out as a textbook MMM beatdown, Sleep was able to strike back with a strong zergling-baneling all-in in game two. Maru was briefly on the ropes in game three as his early reapers failed to do significant damage, but Sleep completely missed the blue-flame hellion follow-up and paid the price by losing a crippling number of drones.
Maru moved on to the winners match to face CJ_Bbyong, who had come up after outplaying MVP.Dream handily in the early game. Unfortunately for Bbyong, he would have the tables turned on him as Maru caused him a significant amount of pain with a proxy marauder rush in game one. Dream gathered himself for a big counter-attack, but Maru easily held with superior micro and rolled his advantage into a win. Maru then showed he could get it done in a macro game as well on new map Yeonsu, using his bio-tank to absolutely crush Bbyong's reckless mech push to take first place in the group.
Down in the loser's match,Azubu.Sleep managed to stay alive with a surprise win over MVP's hot prospect Dream. Many had been been impressed with Dream's performances in GSTL and ATC, but he failed to bring his best form against Sleep. Another baneling-ling bust handed Sleep a win in game one, and though Dream was able to recover on point on Akilon Wastes, he was overwhelmed by Sleep's great muta-ling-bane play on the final map.
Sleep then faced the third and final Terran player of the group, Bbyong, with the last remaining Ro16 ticket up for grabs. The series started out in bizarre fashion with Bbyong going for what could only be called a "marine-medivac-hellion-battlecruiser all-in" off of two bases. While the Sleep seemed to struggle slightly against the initial push, his constant stream of reinforcements was able to eventually overwhelm Bbyong and force the GG. Sleep then went for his own all-in in game two—the same baneling-ling all-in that had bested Maru and Dream—but it was thwarted by Bbyong and his retro hellion-banshee opener. Bbyong made a successful mech transition after that, and was able to run over Sleep to tie up the series.
With everything on the line on Derelict Watcher, Sleep was once again able to bring some impressive muta-ling-bane play to win an upset. Much like Dream, many would have favored Bbyong against Sleep in a straight up MMM vs. muta-ling-bane fight, but the Azubu Zerg showed great defense and engagements to overcome his Terran opponent. After sweeping away several waves of Terran forces, Sleep counter-attacked with a huge group of muta-ling-bane to force the final GG and book an Ro16 spot in his very first Code S appearance.
PartinG Notes
Maru: This was the bare minimum Maru could have done to avoid being called another Seed, Sniper, Jjakji, etc. The Ro16 should be a much more interesting test of his skills.
Sleep: Sleep's solid ZvT was a pleasant surprise, considering we've barely seen him play the match-up (and he's lost when he has). It's hard to say his games were particularly impressive, with his macro consistently suffering and his creep spread not looking great. But his mine-defusing was pretty good, he picked good fights, and he advanced at the end of the day.
Bbyong: Bbyong played about as well most people expected, with him being the new Ensnare/Virus/Terran Gatekeeper of Code S and all. He happily exposed Dream's early game TvT weaknesses, got crushed by a superior player in Maru, and just barely failed to get into the Ro16 at the end of a tough game. Oh, and he went for a BATTLECRUISER ALL-IN, which has greatly improved our opinion of him.
Dream: It's no secret that we've been in love with Dream's potential for a long time, so it's always disappointing when he falls flat like this. Consistency and TvT are Dream's major problems, but we wouldn't be surprised to see him back in Code S if he gets the right kind of brackets.
Realization, redemption, and resurrection. All the players in Group E have something to prove and much to gain in the ultimate WCS Korea Season before the Grand Finals at Blizzcon. Only First (at 19th as of writing) has a shot of making it to Blizzcon barring at least a second place finish in WCS Korea or the Season 3 finals, but each player will have more than an invitation at stake in today’s games.
IM_First is arguablyclearly the most accomplished player in Group E. He entered the OSL a darkhorse to win the tournament—a player that everyone knew had both the potential and the safe play style to do it—even as a complete royal roader. It looked like OSL was going to be his breakthrough tournament after he advanced to the Round of 8 and drew Bomber in his favored matchup, but he was unceremoniously dumped out 0 - 3 in surprising fashion. The player he is most compared to, SKT T1's safety-first Protoss Rain, dismantled Bomber in the next round and everyone was once again left wondering if this was First’s ceiling.
First bounced back by beating both Symbol and SuperNova in the 5th place matches to earn his trip to Europe where he once again looked good in the group stages, but his "breakthrough moment" (not like he won IEM Katowice or anything) eluded him once more as he struggled to advance past aLive and was crushed by a resurgent Jaedong in the semis. Despite being considered a top Protoss player, First has struggled to perform as the stakes grow higher. Will he finally realize his potential, or will he cement his place as a ‘really good but not good enough to win it all’ tier of Code S player?
In his initial match, he faces a player out to prove that he wasn’t just a fluke. NSHmYi.jjakji is finally back in Code S after 6 seasons lost in the “Irrelevant Champ” abyss (which currently contains Sniper and Seed, soon to include RorO). 6 seasons doesn’t sound very long until you realize his last Code S appearance was in April 2012, more than a year ago.
We might think of him as a SC2 veteran or old timer, but aside from that one miraculous triumph, jjakji has actually been conspicuously absent for most of the game’s history, with only four Code S appearances total. His recovery has been a slow process, but just like his November 2011 run, we perhaps we could be in for a surprise? After all, he’s gone straight from Code B to Challenger to Code S in a single season. Still, no one is really talking about his championship potential. His Challenger League games didn’t look good as he survived a series vs. an aggressive CJ Trust and got utterly demolished by a struggling ST_Life. His Up&Down games looked more impressive as he advanced in 1st place—winning against 3 Zergs and losing to Hurricane due to a failed proxy 2rax—though he did show a tendency to lose concentration and miss his micro during high intensity moments. Basically he looks like the jjakji of November 2011. Maybe this is the redemptive sequel we’ve been waiting for.
In the other starting match we have Soul_hyvaa versus KT_Flash, two players whose situations are more similar than you might think. hyvaa, the Soul Survivor, the Injustice Leaguer, the famed cheeser, has so far done well for himself by qualifying for a second successive Premier League. Unfortunately, the dissolution of STX’s sponsorship of SouL left him to look for new opportunities, but for now it seems like he's settled down on just plain ol' SouL. It's easy to see why he may have been a hard sell to prospective employers despite his Premier League credentials, as he only has a winrate of 48% (22-24) in HotS. With so many decent, good, or great ex-BW players retiring in the Proleague off-season, this might be hyvaa’s last chance to make a real impact in his SC2 career.
His opponent is another middling Code S player hoping to show his SC2 career hasn’t dried up. Yup, it’s KT_Flash. With only 2 Round of 16 exits and a 2nd place at the Asian Indoor Games since his silver at MLG Winter Championship back in March, Flash hasn’t done much in SC2 lately. While that's blasphemous to his reputation as 'God,' it’s true. Flash hasn’t even played a televised game since July 30. For a player nicknamed God and the Ultimate Weapon, that’s not what we’ve come to expect from him. Heck, even Jaedong has had more success in the last few months (who would have thought we’d be saying that?). This is Flash's last chance to make a mark in 2013 and try to make it to Blizzcon as he sits in 44th place with 800 points. A championship run here and a good result at the Season 3 Finals could yet catapult him up the rankings, but no one can blame you for being a nonbeliever.
Overall, expect Flash and First to advance in whatever order. Both have successful winrates in their relevant matchups and cruised past their Round of 32 groups last season in Best of 1s. hyvaa is and always will be a dangerous opponent, but First is known for safe play and Flash will be desperate to make something of Season 3 (so don’t expect him to go blind 14cc every game). The wild card of the group is jjakji because we have very little to go on with only 36 games played (and only 9 in WCS). His TvZ looked strong in his Up&Down games (3-0 vZ)—a macro game vs KangHo, a successful roach rush defense with 3CCs vs EffOrt, a timing attack vs Shine—so he should be favored against hyvaa. Both First and Flash have had vT woes recently, especially against Bomber, so jjakji will have a shot of pulling a rabbit out of his hat. It’s unlikely, but not much more than his GSL title run.
Incredible Miracle certainly has no shortage of Water-based Protoss Pokemon with shells. Of those, First is Cloyster! The most defensively based Pokemon of original 151, Cloyster, in the olden days, often relied on his opponents tiring themselves out when they tried to break his near-indestructible shell.
More recently, Cloyster has learned some neat new tricks, one of them being a new move in the form of Shell Smash. By using a turn to setup, it increases all its offenses at the cost of his formidable defenses. Though somewhat more gimmicky and though he sometimes falls flat on his face when using it, when his opponents allow him the freedom to take such risks, the results can be miraculous.
Jjakji is Moltres! Reborn in a flash of flames, Moltres is the phoenix of the first generation. Though he was once one of the best of his time, Moltres sports several glaring weaknesses that make him an unpredictable Pokemon in terms of battling results. Though not nearly as good or as legendary as his cousin, Ho-oh, Moltres' still formidable regenerative powers allow him to come back into the scene when all have pronounced him irrelevant.
Hyvaa is Persian! Always at Team Rocket Boss Giovanni's side, Persian was perhaps the first "evil" Pokemon. Though he's mainly known for his tricks and deception, he's a surprisingly capable battler when push comes to shove. And if all else fails, he can still score an upset with a lucky critical hit from his signature Slash attack.
Flash is Dragonite! In the first generation, Dragonite was a legendary Pokemon. In fact, it was one of THE most legendary Pokemon, so rare that the famed researcher Bill had never seen one and many of Team Rocket's plans revolved around obtaining one (or a pre-evolved form). But as the Pokemon world grew larger, the anime retcon'd both Dragonite's ability and rarity (They even gave one to a main character). Though still powerful and pseudo-legendary, Dragonite was now one of many, a situation he was not used to in Generation I.
Potential for a Lichter curse scares me. D: I'm not even sure what the Lichter prediction curse will be yet, but I'm sure there'll be one and it'll be bad for IM players.
I like First being Cloyster! Though Monk didn't flesh it out, Cloyster is both an OU pokemon, as well as a set-up sweeper with poor defense towards some thing (bad SpD) but amazing defense against other things (Incredible Def).
i really like jjakji and want him to go 2-0 but i think he will lose 1-2. on the other hand flash hasn't seemed up to par lately and i feel like first could beat him to come out on top.
This group will be interesting, i'm hopeful that hyvaa will pull an upset and come out of this group, he is going to need to if he wishes to continue in his career. With Soul dying and a scene met with disbanding teams and retiring players, he might have some trouble finding a team if he doesn't show some major success soon.
Well with Proleague over, Flash has all the time in the world to focus exclusively on his personal championships, I'd expect to see the best plays of SC2 out of him during this brief pause, and of course seeing Flash even more awesome then he is now is an exciting (and frightening) thought.
On September 05 2013 07:08 Noocta wrote: The flash / Dragonite analogy is pretty clever.
and yeah I have no shame to admit that I don't really read anything beside the results and the pokemon analogies.
For me it's the complete opposite. Couldn't care less about this useless stuff and don't understand why it's there. As someone who never listen/read pokemon, I don't understand anything about them and I just feel like it's too childish to be worth making comparison between them and sc2 progamers... No offense to anyone but that's just how I feel. It just doesn't feel serious.
Cloyster is surprisingly strong for a forgotten Generation I pokemon. I had one in my battle team for pokemon white and it can sweep most teams by itself, only falling to some specific counters. One of my personal victories was that I came up with the concept of using a King's Rock for Cloyster due to its attacks that connect 5 times always, which has a 40% chance of flinching the opponent. I couldn't find this on smogon anywhere, so it's like I'm innovative. (or most likely, it's a bad set-up )
On September 05 2013 07:08 Noocta wrote: The flash / Dragonite analogy is pretty clever.
and yeah I have no shame to admit that I don't really read anything beside the results and the pokemon analogies.
For me it's the complete opposite. Couldn't care less about this useless stuff and don't understand why it's there. As someone who never listen/read pokemon, I don't understand anything about them and I just feel like it's too childish to be worth making comparison between them and sc2 progamers... No offense to anyone but that's just how I feel. It just doesn't feel serious.
You have no soul. :o
In any case, in the anime dragonite is barely taller than Ash these days, quite a fall for a legendary dragon.
On September 05 2013 07:41 Grumbels wrote: Cloyster is surprisingly strong for a forgotten Generation I pokemon. I had one in my battle team for pokemon white and it can sweep most teams by itself, only falling to some specific counters. One of my personal victories was that I came up with the concept of using a King's Rock for Cloyster due to its attacks that connect 5 times always, which has a 40% chance of flinching the opponent. I couldn't find this on smogon anywhere, so it's like I'm innovative. (or most likely, it's a bad set-up )
On September 05 2013 07:08 Noocta wrote: The flash / Dragonite analogy is pretty clever.
and yeah I have no shame to admit that I don't really read anything beside the results and the pokemon analogies.
For me it's the complete opposite. Couldn't care less about this useless stuff and don't understand why it's there. As someone who never listen/read pokemon, I don't understand anything about them and I just feel like it's too childish to be worth making comparison between them and sc2 progamers... No offense to anyone but that's just how I feel. It just doesn't feel serious.
You have no soul. :o
In any case, in the anime dragonite is barely taller than Ash these days, quite a fall for a legendary dragon.
And how can First be 'clearly' the most accomplished player in this group when Flash had the most wins and best performances in proleague, which TL constantly tells us is the most important tournament?
On September 05 2013 07:41 Grumbels wrote: Cloyster is surprisingly strong for a forgotten Generation I pokemon. I had one in my battle team for pokemon white and it can sweep most teams by itself, only falling to some specific counters. One of my personal victories was that I came up with the concept of using a King's Rock for Cloyster due to its attacks that connect 5 times always, which has a 40% chance of flinching the opponent. I couldn't find this on smogon anywhere, so it's like I'm innovative. (or most likely, it's a bad set-up )
On September 05 2013 07:40 DPK wrote:
On September 05 2013 07:08 Noocta wrote: The flash / Dragonite analogy is pretty clever.
and yeah I have no shame to admit that I don't really read anything beside the results and the pokemon analogies.
For me it's the complete opposite. Couldn't care less about this useless stuff and don't understand why it's there. As someone who never listen/read pokemon, I don't understand anything about them and I just feel like it's too childish to be worth making comparison between them and sc2 progamers... No offense to anyone but that's just how I feel. It just doesn't feel serious.
You have no soul. :o
In any case, in the anime dragonite is barely taller than Ash these days, quite a fall for a legendary dragon.
It's on smogon. Sorry to disappoint.
It wasn't there when I played pokemon white six months ago. See here. But indeed, they have an entry for that now, I guess I was ahead of the pokemon metagame. ^_^
On September 05 2013 07:45 Grumbels wrote: And how can First be 'clearly' the most accomplished player in this group when Flash had the most wins and best performances in proleague, which TL constantly tells us is the most important tournament?
The most accomplished player in this group is Jjakji! Don't forget that unlike Flash and First, he actually won a GSL... Anyway, I'm rooting for him and as long as he pull enought SCV vs First, he shall be able to make it to the RO16.
On September 05 2013 07:45 Grumbels wrote: And how can First be 'clearly' the most accomplished player in this group when Flash had the most wins and best performances in proleague, which TL constantly tells us is the most important tournament?
On an individual basis First is arguably more accomplished, having won IEM Katowice, gotten far into tournaments and helped his team a lot in GSTL, Flash only has his PL result, he has only made two RO16s, and has 1 silver from MLG. I hope Flash can turn on God mode now and blast his way trough everyone and everything given that there is no PL to distract him.
Two minor issues. One is that First's appearance late on the seen (he only switched to SC2 in early 2012) seems to hint at a later-gen defensive poke. Maybe Aggron or Bastiodon, hinting at how his defense is surprisingly vulnerable to the right opponents. The second issue it that Dragonite was never formally designated as legendary, even in the first generation. The only exception was in the anime, and only one episode, which was contradicted by the movie ending the same season, at that. The commonly-accepted term is actually pseudo-legendary.
In relevant news, Hyvaa is going to crit-hit Flash and make everyone hate him even more. First > Jjakji Flash < Hyvaa First > Hyvaa Flash > Jjakji Jjakji < Hyvaa First and Hyvaa advance.
Should be Flash and First on paper, but wouldn't be surprised to see hyvaa pull off something to squeak through in 2nd place. I don't think jjakji has it in him to get out of this group. He'll probably stick around Code S Ro32 level.
On September 05 2013 08:01 LittleRedBoy wrote: I guess no one is Mewtwo and Flash isn't Arceus?
I don't think a lot of people (including me) know Pokemon past generation 2 or 3 expect for the really famous starters. So I like it that the writer are staying away from there.
I figured Flash would be Mewtwo actually. Without a doubt the best 1st gen Pokemon(sc1), still top-tier, but likely not the best or even 2nd best anymore. Idk, maybe Mewtwo still is a the best, I mean I quit after gen 3 when I was 13 lol..
Just seems like when you have 309048309 legendary pokemon running around now that Mewtwo wouldn't still be the best. I mean there's even a god pokemon these days...
On September 05 2013 08:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: I figured Flash would be Mewtwo actually. Without a doubt the best 1st gen Pokemon(sc1), still top-tier, but likely not the best or even 2nd best anymore. Idk, maybe Mewtwo still is a the best, I mean I quit after gen 3 when I was 13 lol..
Just seems like when you have 309048309 legendary pokemon running around now that Mewtwo wouldn't still be the best. I mean there's even a god pokemon these days...
Indeed, I was pretty shocked Flash wasn't Arceus. That said, I think the writer of the pokedex has a penchant for the first 151 and is trying to align most progamers to that. I mean, 32 people, not like they're short of choice.
On September 05 2013 08:13 Pontius Pirate wrote: Two minor issues. One is that First's appearance late on the seen (he only switched to SC2 in early 2012) seems to hint at a later-gen defensive poke. Maybe Aggron or Bastiodon, hinting at how his defense is surprisingly vulnerable to the right opponents. The second issue it that Dragonite was never formally designated as legendary, even in the first generation. The only exception was in the anime, and only one episode, which was contradicted by the movie ending the same season, at that. The commonly-accepted term is actually pseudo-legendary.
In relevant news, Hyvaa is going to crit-hit Flash and make everyone hate him even more. First > Jjakji Flash < Hyvaa First > Hyvaa Flash > Jjakji Jjakji < Hyvaa First and Hyvaa advance.
Off the top of my head, Dragonite was referenced as legendary/super incredibly rare in the Bill episode, the banned dratini/tauros episode, and the ditto episode.
On September 05 2013 09:33 purakushi wrote: I hope Flash wins the global finals 2013, retires saying lack of interest in the game, and starts playing BW again.
Lol he will not retire if he wins just to prove some point. But really hope for Flash to win KR this season. Would be a huge boost to the SC2 morale.
Group D was incredibly disappointing in terms of quality (a sign that WCS EU and NA are diluting the GSL's level of play?). Luckily E looks a ton better in that regard Should be First and Flash making it out.
On September 05 2013 09:33 purakushi wrote: I hope Flash wins the global finals 2013, retires saying lack of interest in the game, and starts playing BW again.
Speaking of Flash and how Jaedong has been more successful, what's going on with Bisu? He played in less than a handful of Proleague matches during the season if I remember correctly.
On September 05 2013 16:16 TaShadan wrote: Why his last chance? Will he retire?
If 2013 ends up being a bust for him I am worried he will lose passion
I thought it was more the last chance to make Blizzcon
Mostly that, but I am also worried about him losing interest in the game if he doesn't have success with it.
I don't really see that happening. Flash was the best player of broodwar I don't see him giving up on game he switched just because he didn't get championship in couple seasons of GSL. Flash has been better and better every season and don't forget he was the most wins player in proleague.
On September 05 2013 16:16 TaShadan wrote: Why his last chance? Will he retire?
If 2013 ends up being a bust for him I am worried he will lose passion
He's been through much harder times than this. Whether he likes the game, who knows? But I don't think his results will cause him to lose interest.
Lots of people are not aware of Flash's championship drought before becoming "god". It was the worst era of KTFlash, having to carry the weight of the whole team in Proleague, while being the best player to not win individual tournaments. As a Flash fan, it was painful to see him constantly drained out. If he was able to prevail from that and rise and become the most dominant player in BW history, he can handle HotS just fine. The positive sign is that he keeps improving.
Take HUGE issue with your statement that it is ludicrous that Jaedong has achieved more than Flash. He was a god in his own right and had extended periods where Flash was his bitch
Flash will win WCS hands down. there will be no stopping him. we might see him drop a game here n there. but for the most part he will dominate like there is no tommorrow.