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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
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T>Z, Z>P, P>T. They way it is meant to be.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 03 2013 02:14 rift wrote:
T>Z, Z>P, P>T. They way it is meant to be.
And the way nobody likes it 
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We do not make that effort because we do not want to
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Incredibly low match counts. Korean+WCS is less than 100. International is around 300-400.
To see trends, compare with July.
International:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AFqprJn.png)
Korean:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/j0gOkOw.png)
Conclusions regarding Korean (still less than 200 games per MU!!!):
P is doing worse in PvZ and better in PvT. So no trend either MU.
T>Z by the same amount. Trend continues
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On September 03 2013 02:27 Ghanburighan wrote:Incredibly low match counts. Korean+WCS is less than 100. International is around 300-400. To see trends, compare with July. International: Korean: Conclusions regarding Korean (still less than 200 games per MU!!!): P is doing worse in PvZ and better in PvT. So no trend either MU. T>Z by the same amount. Trend continues
Those aren't low sample sizes at all, going with the assumption wcs and Korea is ABOUT at 100 and assuming its composed of no mirrors.
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As expected. Zergs are still winning, but have not cracked the terran code yet. PvT is still PvT. PvZ is weird as always and no on really knows what to expect, except that it will involve a lot of force fields.
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The weird fluctuation in ZvP makes me think the matchup is probably okay, as it doesn't outwardly appear to be favoring one race. I sure don't like Swarm Hosts though!
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 03 2013 02:35 Plansix wrote:
As expected. Zergs are still winning, but have not cracked the terran code yet. PvT is still PvT. PvZ is weird as always and no on really knows what to expect, except that it will involve a lot of force fields.
Question is how they are winning, not do they.
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pvt is like only going to be worse for T as time goes by and P learns to handle the midgame (like in wol).
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Yeah, we are at the point where winrates are irrelevant when the games are so tedious and play the same way each time.
People would probably be happier if there was more racial imbalance in winrates, but more variety in games.
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I'm surprised that PvT is that one-sided, although it has become easier for me to play against Terrans. I thought I was just figuring out the match-up more 
PvZ and TvZ look to be what I expected though.
EDIT: As always, thanks for posting the data!
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on the manner of the win :
TvP winrate for T count a large number of scv pull alli. Not sure if we can call a game balance when the meta is to pull all your scv and crossfinger to win
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Still as ugly as last month.
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On September 03 2013 03:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:I'm surprised that PvT is that one-sided, although it has become easier for me to play against Terrans. I thought I was just figuring out the match-up more PvZ and TvZ look to be what I expected though. EDIT: As always, thanks for posting the data!
It's very likely you that really did figure out the matchup up more It's just that everybody else has, too.
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TvP as broken as usual. SCV pull and pray.
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On September 03 2013 03:05 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 02:35 Plansix wrote:
As expected. Zergs are still winning, but have not cracked the terran code yet. PvT is still PvT. PvZ is weird as always and no on really knows what to expect, except that it will involve a lot of force fields. Question is how they are winning, not do they.
roach/bane busts obv
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zvt stats are clearly pre overseer patch, now its gonna be very balanced
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On September 03 2013 03:31 syriuszonito wrote:
zvt stats are clearly pre overseer patch, now its gonna be very balanced
I understand your sarcasm, but please, overseer patch was good.
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