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Interview w/ David Kim on Balance at IEM Shanghai - Page 6

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Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
August 26 2013 14:11 GMT
#101
On August 26 2013 23:01 pmp10 wrote:
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On August 26 2013 20:35 Markwerf wrote:
David Kim is full of himself though thinking all matchups are really cool now. He doesn't want to do any real changes and not ruin the precious balance. In the meantime basically all hots units are gimmicky except the widowmine (which arguably breaks TvZ a little) and mech is still gone. The only great HotS changes were some of the nerfs to old units removing the dreaded infestor/bl combo from play.

Actually Blizzard is aware that terran match-ups have become stale to spectate.
It's just that they screwed mech so badly it can't be fixed outside of a expansion.

What changes are so big that couldn't be done in a HOTS patch?
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
August 26 2013 14:14 GMT
#102
On August 26 2013 23:11 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 23:01 pmp10 wrote:
On August 26 2013 20:35 Markwerf wrote:
David Kim is full of himself though thinking all matchups are really cool now. He doesn't want to do any real changes and not ruin the precious balance. In the meantime basically all hots units are gimmicky except the widowmine (which arguably breaks TvZ a little) and mech is still gone. The only great HotS changes were some of the nerfs to old units removing the dreaded infestor/bl combo from play.

Actually Blizzard is aware that terran match-ups have become stale to spectate.
It's just that they screwed mech so badly it can't be fixed outside of a expansion.

What changes are so big that couldn't be done in a HOTS patch?

flipping the immortal, viper and swarm host upside down
"Not you."
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
August 26 2013 14:14 GMT
#103
Haters gonna hate. As someone who's much happier with HotS than I was with WoL, and who enjoys pretty much every matchup at this point, I'm glad that they're not looking at any radical redesigns, and I think the game is moving in the right direciton.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Mehukannu
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 14:20:30
August 26 2013 14:19 GMT
#104
On August 26 2013 23:01 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 20:35 Markwerf wrote:
David Kim is full of himself though thinking all matchups are really cool now. He doesn't want to do any real changes and not ruin the precious balance. In the meantime basically all hots units are gimmicky except the widowmine (which arguably breaks TvZ a little) and mech is still gone. The only great HotS changes were some of the nerfs to old units removing the dreaded infestor/bl combo from play.

Actually Blizzard is aware that terran match-ups have become stale to spectate.
It's just that they screwed mech so badly it can't be fixed outside of a expansion.

I don't think mech needs any big changes to be viable. The tools are there, but the tanks suck so bad in direct engagements that is not even funny. The excessive counters from protoss (Immortal) and zerg (Viper/Swarmhost) don't really help mech all that much either.

EDIT: Actually don't think the tempest are an excessive counter now that I think about it.
C=('. ' Q)
Mehukannu
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland421 Posts
August 26 2013 14:22 GMT
#105
On August 26 2013 23:14 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Haters gonna hate. As someone who's much happier with HotS than I was with WoL, and who enjoys pretty much every matchup at this point, I'm glad that they're not looking at any radical redesigns, and I think the game is moving in the right direciton.

Yeah, dropping the S from the RTS is a really good direction for terran match-ups.
C=('. ' Q)
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
August 26 2013 14:26 GMT
#106
On August 26 2013 23:14 19Meavis93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 23:11 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On August 26 2013 23:01 pmp10 wrote:
On August 26 2013 20:35 Markwerf wrote:
David Kim is full of himself though thinking all matchups are really cool now. He doesn't want to do any real changes and not ruin the precious balance. In the meantime basically all hots units are gimmicky except the widowmine (which arguably breaks TvZ a little) and mech is still gone. The only great HotS changes were some of the nerfs to old units removing the dreaded infestor/bl combo from play.

Actually Blizzard is aware that terran match-ups have become stale to spectate.
It's just that they screwed mech so badly it can't be fixed outside of a expansion.

What changes are so big that couldn't be done in a HOTS patch?

flipping the immortal, viper and swarm host upside down

I think with smart changes they can do it. After all, with just one patch they managed to destroy WOL, now they could use that power for good instead of evil.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
August 26 2013 14:41 GMT
#107
On August 26 2013 23:22 Mehukannu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 23:14 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Haters gonna hate. As someone who's much happier with HotS than I was with WoL, and who enjoys pretty much every matchup at this point, I'm glad that they're not looking at any radical redesigns, and I think the game is moving in the right direciton.

Yeah, dropping the S from the RTS is a really good direction for terran match-ups.


Anyone who thinks there is no strategy involved in playing Terran at the highest level is an idiot.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Mehukannu
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland421 Posts
August 26 2013 15:46 GMT
#108
On August 26 2013 23:41 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 23:22 Mehukannu wrote:
On August 26 2013 23:14 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Haters gonna hate. As someone who's much happier with HotS than I was with WoL, and who enjoys pretty much every matchup at this point, I'm glad that they're not looking at any radical redesigns, and I think the game is moving in the right direciton.

Yeah, dropping the S from the RTS is a really good direction for terran match-ups.


Anyone who thinks there is no strategy involved in playing Terran at the highest level is an idiot.

Let's see what kind of different strategical choices terran has in both TvZ and TvP.
Hmm, seems like it is bio and, oh, more bio. I sure hope my opponent doesn't guess that I am going bio.
C=('. ' Q)
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 26 2013 16:02 GMT
#109
On August 27 2013 00:46 Mehukannu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 23:41 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On August 26 2013 23:22 Mehukannu wrote:
On August 26 2013 23:14 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Haters gonna hate. As someone who's much happier with HotS than I was with WoL, and who enjoys pretty much every matchup at this point, I'm glad that they're not looking at any radical redesigns, and I think the game is moving in the right direciton.

Yeah, dropping the S from the RTS is a really good direction for terran match-ups.


Anyone who thinks there is no strategy involved in playing Terran at the highest level is an idiot.

Let's see what kind of different strategical choices terran has in both TvZ and TvP.
Hmm, seems like it is bio and, oh, more bio. I sure hope my opponent doesn't guess that I am going bio.

Unit composition ≠ strategy. For instance, Bomber and Polt don't have the same way at all to play bio in TvP.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
August 26 2013 16:11 GMT
#110
On August 27 2013 00:46 Mehukannu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 23:41 awesomoecalypse wrote:
On August 26 2013 23:22 Mehukannu wrote:
On August 26 2013 23:14 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Haters gonna hate. As someone who's much happier with HotS than I was with WoL, and who enjoys pretty much every matchup at this point, I'm glad that they're not looking at any radical redesigns, and I think the game is moving in the right direciton.

Yeah, dropping the S from the RTS is a really good direction for terran match-ups.


Anyone who thinks there is no strategy involved in playing Terran at the highest level is an idiot.

Let's see what kind of different strategical choices terran has in both TvZ and TvP.
Hmm, seems like it is bio and, oh, more bio. I sure hope my opponent doesn't guess that I am going bio.


There's a lot more to strategy than choice of tech tree and composition. 90% of TvPs in BW were mech, that didn't mean no strategy was involved.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
August 26 2013 23:09 GMT
#111
On August 24 2013 18:46 myRZeth wrote:
great questions, awful answers

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