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WCS S2 Finals: Maru, The Prince On the Summit (Group D Preview)

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2013 WCS Europe

WCS Season II Finals



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The Prince on the Summit

MaruPrime at the WCS Season 2 Finals

by stuchiu

Three years ago, (T)MaruPrime qualified for the first ever GSL Open. Though that season will forever and always belong to ephemeral Fruitdealer, many future stars also came from that first class. There is a great feel of tradition then, that three years later, four of the sixty-four players who graced the first GSL will once more compete against each other in one of the greatest competitions in the world. (P)MC was the first among them to make a name for himself as he won two GSLs. (T)Polt then won the Super Tournament, and went on to become an American hero. (T)TaeJa went on a killing spree during the summer of 2012, letting everyone know that online play does translate to the live stage.

And finally, there is Maru. As the youngest and last member of that elite class, Maru has joined their ranks as the OSL Champion.

As you can tell from the time gap, it has been a long and tough climb to the top for Maru. After his first appearance in the GSL Open, Maru was unable to qualify for the GSL for nearly a year. He then spent yet another year as a fringe Code S and Code A player, occasionally showing amazing games during his Code A runs, only to fall short time and time again in Code S. HotS didn't offer much hope at first, with Maru starting off the first season stuck in Code A.

Maru was not the only one struggling—his entire team was falling apart as well. Byun still crumbled in stressful situations. Instead of being revitalized by the new changes in HotS, MKP became even less focused, more haphazard in his play. Creator fell the hardest of all, his superior defensive talent almost completely nullified in the new expansion. At this lowest point in both Maru and Prime's histories, even a player such as SKT's Soo was able to call out Prime as being "easy" without reproach.

85 days ago, change began as Maru entered his first ever OSL after winning his Up & Down matches. 64 days ago, Maru scored an upset as he stomped both sOs and effort in his Ro32 group. Some called it bo1 luck, and others instead blamed sOs for his poor play. Either way, Maru moved on. 34 days ago, Maru pulled off his second upset as he made it out of a group containing Trap, Supernova and Kangho in first place. And again, some called it luck, and others called it an easy group. Whatever the case, most agreed that it was the end of the road for an impressive Maru. Reaching the Ro8 was a grand achievement for one so young, but there was no more luck to be had from there on out, with only the chosen few able to move on.

29 days ago, Maru scored his third upset as he defeated the paragon of consistency, Symbol, by a score of 3 - 1. And while it was impressive, no one believed Maru could get past Innovation. 22 days ago, Maru upset the best player in the world in Innovation by a score of 4 - 0. And once again, even as everyone admitted they were impressed, the story shifted toward Innovation’s inability to defend against enemy all-ins. 11 days ago, Maru scored his final upset as he defeated Rain 4 - 2 in the grand finals of the OSL.

Surely now, no one dares say "I'm impressed with Maru, but..."

No, there are no more excuses left. No more reasons to give. From beginning to end, Maru has been doubted, and from beginning to end, Maru has crushed those doubts. He has forced us to reevaluate him as a player in each and every round of the OSL. After three years of fighting, Maru has reached the summit of Starcraft 2.

So now where will he go now? That is the real question. Some champions immediately fall off. Some get complacent, while others just cannot keep up with the evolving metagame. Others are intoxicated by that moment of glory, hungering for only more. Some are satisfied with their one major achievement, and are happy to settle at a slightly lower level. What kind of Champion will Maru become? He is young, but he is a veteran of over three years, of Brood War and StarCraft II. Is he exhausted, or does his passion still burn? Will he get his championship only to fall down into the pits like Seed, Jjakji and Sniper? Will he burn bright for a year like Life, MMA and DRG, before burning into ash? Or will he become a legend, a player like Mvp?

For a champion, the hardest trial is always after the first victory. The WCS Season Finals is our first step toward finding out what kind of champion Maru will be.

Today, he is in Germany. On Friday he will play his first match. And by Sunday he will have either fallen from his lofty perch, or will be soaring to new heights.


WCS Season II Finals: Ro16 Group D Preview

kr Maru, kr MMA, kr aLive*, ca Scarlett

*aLive replaces Jim, who was unable to participate due to Visa issues.

The first thing that stands out is who isn’t here. (P)Jim once more faced visa issues, and because of that he was replaced by the WCS America's 6th place finisher (T)EG.aLive. This changes the entire complexion of the group, as Jim added added a lot of unpredictability to an already fearsome bunch of players. With Alive replacing Jim, the group has become been pared down to two races, and the myriad scenarios of "will this player get his/her best match-up or not" has been greatly simplified. Now, it boils down to two major questions: Which Terran has the best TvT, and which ones can beat (Z)Acer.Scarlett's monster ZvT?

As to the first question. it is hard to say. To start, all three players are stylistically similar in being heavy bio users. Among the three of them I give (T)MaruPrime the edge as he is the most willing to cheese, giving him a wider breadth of options on how to eliminate the other two. Between MMA and aLive, it's close. (T)Acer.MMA showed a lot of strength in the Terran mirror during the ATC Finals, but in the end he still went even against ForGG and lost to Dream. Alive on the other hand lost to Taeja fairly easily in WCS America, so it makes it hard to say exactly how he matches up against the Acer Terran, but for now I give the slight edge to MMA.

Now, about the only Zerg, and only foreigner in the group. Sandwiched between three Terrans, (Z)Scarlett is probably slightly behind against Maru because of his versatility, able to win with 11/11, proxy reapers, or in large macro games. She is probably even with MMA, so that will come down to mental strength and maps (Scarlett should feel free to tell us we've grossly over or underestimated her ZvT if she reads this). And like we saw from her 3 - 0 series against aLive in WCS America, she has the advantage in that match-up.

Put it all together, and the favorites in the group to make it out in first and second are most likely Maru and Scarlett. After winning OSL, Maru is the favorite in terms of both momentum and skill. Scarlett is probably the other favorite when you consider just how strong her TvZ is and that she will most likely be only preparing for TvZ against opponents who have to split their time between TvT and TvZ. But this is still an extremely even group all around, with any of the players able to beat the others on a given day. Alive vs. Scarlett is the only one that seems kind of one-sided, but aLive could definitely TvT his way into the Ro8.

For all of the players here, they will all have to harness their very best play to move on. Maru has to find the strength he found in his OSL run. MMA has to bring out that form he had years ago if he wants a spot. Scarlett will have to show that not only can she play at the same high level she did against Dream and aLive, but do it over and over again against the likes of Maru and MMA. And Alive will have to call on his dark power to show up at every tournament and eliminate fan favorites.

Predictions:

Maru > Alive
MMA > Scarlett
Maru > MMA
Scarlett > Alive
Scarlett > MMA

Maru and Scarlett advance.


More WCS Season Finals Articles

Day 3 Recap: I Fought the Law
Day 2 Recap: From 12 to 4
Day 1 Recap: Not the Koreans you're looking for

Group A Preview: MC, the $400,000 Man
Group B Preview: Polt, Not all Ironic
Group C Preview: INnoVation and the insane, nonsensical group prediction[/b]
Group D Preview: Maru, the Prince on the Summit


Writers: stuchiu.
Editor: Waxangel.
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lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 21:23:24
August 21 2013 21:22 GMT
#2
I have always rooted for Maru!

Mainly because he was so cute and gangsta looking. But now because he is clearly one of the best!
smashlloyd20
Profile Joined October 2012
251 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 21:23:39
August 21 2013 21:23 GMT
#3
Why the all bold? Hurts my eyes...

EDIT: nvm, thanks for fixing!
Enemony
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada49 Posts
August 21 2013 21:30 GMT
#4
I know I'm fighting the odd's, but GO SCARLETT!
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Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
August 21 2013 21:34 GMT
#5
What does 29 nine days mean?!?!
29 nine days ago, Maru scored his third upset as he defeated the paragon of consistency
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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
August 21 2013 21:34 GMT
#6
Acer will advance
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
August 21 2013 21:34 GMT
#7
I will be shocked if a zerg makes it out of groups
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Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
August 21 2013 21:36 GMT
#8
Found something else weird:
Preview: MC, the #400,000 Man
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partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
August 21 2013 21:37 GMT
#9
GOGOGO MARU/ALIVE!
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 21:38:17
August 21 2013 21:37 GMT
#10
On August 22 2013 06:34 Flossy wrote:
What does 29 nine days mean?!?!
Show nested quote +
29 nine days ago, Maru scored his third upset as he defeated the paragon of consistency


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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 21 2013 21:42 GMT
#11
MARUUUUUUU Cannot wait to see what the little guy does next
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 21 2013 21:47 GMT
#12
"Scarlett is probably the other favorite when you consider just how strong her TvZ is and that she will most likely be only preparing for TvZ against opponents who have to split their time between TvT and TvZ."
I believe you mean ZvT unless she switched to Terran and everyone else switched to Zerg XD Having said that, I agree. Maru and Scarlett to take this group easy.
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Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
August 21 2013 21:47 GMT
#13
Nestea played in the first GSL ever...the one that FD won and he become for a brief time more acomplished than the other 4 guys you mentioned.
spamuwen
Profile Joined January 2013
United States7 Posts
August 21 2013 21:48 GMT
#14
Spelling correction: it should be "pared down to 2 races"

That said: SCARLETT HWAITING!!
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
August 21 2013 21:50 GMT
#15
Go Maru and Scarlett!! I'm so excited!! Something about this season 2 finals that feels so much more hype than the other. I love it!! Can't wait!
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Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
August 21 2013 21:51 GMT
#16
Haha, 4 players out of Group B in GSL Open Season 1 are going to the WCS Season Finals this weekend: Maru, MC, Taeja, and Polt.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_TG_Sambo_Intel_StarCraft_II_Open_Season_1/Players
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 21 2013 21:54 GMT
#17
i really like the style of the wcs write ups.
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
August 21 2013 21:55 GMT
#18
I can defo see MMA advancing
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 21 2013 21:56 GMT
#19
On August 22 2013 06:51 Gatesleeper wrote:
Haha, 4 players out of Group B in GSL Open Season 1 are going to the WCS Season Finals this weekend: Maru, MC, Taeja, and Polt.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_TG_Sambo_Intel_StarCraft_II_Open_Season_1/Players

That's pretty cool.
Also thanks for the writeup tl writers!
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 21 2013 21:58 GMT
#20
On August 22 2013 06:51 Gatesleeper wrote:
Haha, 4 players out of Group B in GSL Open Season 1 are going to the WCS Season Finals this weekend: Maru, MC, Taeja, and Polt.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_TG_Sambo_Intel_StarCraft_II_Open_Season_1/Players


"Four great warriors of old, drawn together by the unrelenting strings of fate, headed toward a final battle. Only one will stand when the dust settles", yada yada. I think I've seen a movie like that
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
August 21 2013 21:58 GMT
#21
These previews are awesome.
DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
August 21 2013 22:01 GMT
#22
Maru/Scarlett would be my favourite duo to get out of the group too! I wouldn't under-estimate aLive, I think he'd stomp MMA in his current form.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
DBS
Profile Joined July 2012
515 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 22:03:28
August 21 2013 22:02 GMT
#23
On August 22 2013 06:51 Gatesleeper wrote:
Haha, 4 players out of Group B in GSL Open Season 1 are going to the WCS Season Finals this weekend: Maru, MC, Taeja, and Polt.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_TG_Sambo_Intel_StarCraft_II_Open_Season_1/Players

Compared to group C where the only still active player is TLO or group A where nestea is the only active player
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States997 Posts
August 21 2013 22:04 GMT
#24
On August 22 2013 07:02 DBS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 06:51 Gatesleeper wrote:
Haha, 4 players out of Group B in GSL Open Season 1 are going to the WCS Season Finals this weekend: Maru, MC, Taeja, and Polt.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_TG_Sambo_Intel_StarCraft_II_Open_Season_1/Players

Compared to group C where the only still active player is TLO or group A where nestea is the only active player


LosirA's still active.

Anyway, looking at that list, it is amazing how many players have fallen out of the scene.
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Vanimar
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
220 Posts
August 21 2013 22:06 GMT
#25
Someone should put Scarlet in a Kerrigan costume already.
All Hail the Queen!
I figured out the EG Curse. It was set in motion by Voodoo Shamans working for Millenium. Whenever EG aquires a player, Voodoo energies start slowly draining skill from the EG guy into an Millenium newcomer. Think about it!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 22:08:28
August 21 2013 22:08 GMT
#26
On August 22 2013 07:04 Monochromatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 07:02 DBS wrote:
On August 22 2013 06:51 Gatesleeper wrote:
Haha, 4 players out of Group B in GSL Open Season 1 are going to the WCS Season Finals this weekend: Maru, MC, Taeja, and Polt.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_TG_Sambo_Intel_StarCraft_II_Open_Season_1/Players

Compared to group C where the only still active player is TLO or group A where nestea is the only active player


LosirA's still active.

Anyway, looking at that list, it is amazing how many players have fallen out of the scene.


Group A has Nestea.
Group B has Taeja, Polt, MC, Maru, San.
Group C has Kangho, TLO.
Group D has Byun, Genius and Zenio.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 21 2013 22:24 GMT
#27
I'm impressed with Maru, but...it was more Rain choking than Maru playing exceptionally brilliant. He played extremely well, no doubt, but he doesn't strike me as unquestionably dominating, like MVP, Nestea, DRG, MMA, Life did at their respective heights, or Innovation did more recently.
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Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
August 21 2013 22:27 GMT
#28
I believe in scarlett..


go do it!!
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
August 21 2013 22:32 GMT
#29
On August 22 2013 06:51 Gatesleeper wrote:
Haha, 4 players out of Group B in GSL Open Season 1 are going to the WCS Season Finals this weekend: Maru, MC, Taeja, and Polt.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_TG_Sambo_Intel_StarCraft_II_Open_Season_1/Players

That's AWESOME lol.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 21 2013 22:33 GMT
#30
let's go maruuu :D
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 21 2013 22:34 GMT
#31
Gogo Scarlett !

I agree with those predictions. Maru is the favorite, aLive is the underdog and MMA/Scarlett is 40/40.
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Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 21 2013 22:37 GMT
#32
Would be happy as long as Maru makes it out. Scarlett in second place would be pretty cool too.
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LittleRedBoy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States229 Posts
August 21 2013 22:39 GMT
#33
Most people here are seriously underestimating MMA. He has won 66% of his games in HotS, and he has won 77% of his games against Zerg; and he's only lost four best of 3s/5s. One of those losses was to Ret, two were to Hyun, and the most recent loss was to life by a score of 2-3. It's not like he is losing to bad players. He just isn't as dominant as he was a year or two ago, but everyone is making it sound like he is absolute trash now.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
August 21 2013 22:40 GMT
#34
On August 22 2013 07:39 LittleRedBoy wrote:
Most people here are seriously underestimating MMA. He has won 66% of his games in HotS, and he has won 77% of his games against Zerg; and he's only lost four best of 3s/5s. One of those losses was to Ret, two were to Hyun, and the most recent loss was to life by a score of 2-3. It's not like he is losing to bad players. He just isn't as dominant as he was a year or two ago, but everyone is making it sound like he is absolute trash now.

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Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
August 21 2013 22:50 GMT
#35
I really hope your predictions turn out accurate! Maru is such a gangster.
Try another route paperboy.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
August 21 2013 22:56 GMT
#36
GOOOOO MMA!!!!!!!!
H2k_Abaddon
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany27 Posts
August 21 2013 23:07 GMT
#37
Maru > Alive
MMA > Scarlett
Maru > MMA
Scarlett > Alive
Scarlett > MMA


Is it just me or does:

MMA > Scarlett (line2) and Scarlett > MMA(line5) not make that much sense ?
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Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
August 21 2013 23:07 GMT
#38
man this shit is so cool, you all are making me so hype
Sc2 always got your back
Olferen
Profile Joined March 2013
United States39 Posts
August 21 2013 23:15 GMT
#39
I've always thought MMA was a bit of an ass. I just hope that Maru gets eliminated though, cheesing three times in a semifinal is just not fun to watch. So Scarlett and aLive gogogogo plz :D
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Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
August 21 2013 23:20 GMT
#40
Prediction: The People's Liberation Army Air Force will drop paratroopers into Cologne on top of Gamescom and deliver Jim to compete.

On August 22 2013 08:07 H2k_Abaddon wrote:
Show nested quote +
Maru > Alive
MMA > Scarlett
Maru > MMA
Scarlett > Alive
Scarlett > MMA


Is it just me or does:

MMA > Scarlett (line2) and Scarlett > MMA(line5) not make that much sense ?


It happens often between two closely matched opponents. Like the last couple of times Parting and Life have been placed in the same group in GSL. Life would convincingly win the first series, but Parting would win the 2nd series in the end.

I'm pretty sure Maru and MMA will advance.
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
August 21 2013 23:25 GMT
#41
MARU BALLINNNN
rip prime
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 21 2013 23:52 GMT
#42
Lets do this mma you lord
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
August 21 2013 23:57 GMT
#43
Maru > Alive
MMA > Scarlett
MMA > Maru
Scarlett > Alive
Scarlett > Maru


Sup.
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 00:08:10
August 22 2013 00:04 GMT
#44
"I'm impressed with Maru, but..." Prime still isnt very impressive.
sorry I couldnt help it. Maru stands at the top of the world right now and is playing like a total beast... but no one on Prime actually followed him up. Maru is the one and only change/improvement to Prime sad to say. Creator is still code B. Byun and MKP are still code A, missing a good opportunity in the Up&Downs. But MKP somehow lost to Swagger (Killer) {how????} and Byun lost once again to Soo, backing up Soo previous comments somewhat . Ok Im done nitpicking now
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yudan
Profile Joined January 2013
Australia23 Posts
August 22 2013 00:13 GMT
#45
I think it should be Scarlett's ZvT rather than saying her TvZ, in the article it refers to her TvZ matchup multiple times.
AngrySalmon
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom19 Posts
August 22 2013 00:13 GMT
#46
MMA is the real terran prince not maru. I know MMA will destroy him!
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
August 22 2013 00:19 GMT
#47
On August 22 2013 09:13 yudan wrote:
I think it should be Scarlett's ZvT rather than saying her TvZ, in the article it refers to her TvZ matchup multiple times.

I agree, it's minor but no reason not to fix minor mistakes.
hesho89
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada106 Posts
August 22 2013 00:27 GMT
#48
i totally want scarlett to make it but......

i see it going like...

Maru > Alive
Scarlett > MMA
Maru > Scarlett (winners)
MMA > Alive
MMA > Scarlett

sadly
eh?
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
August 22 2013 00:44 GMT
#49
"many future stars also came from that first class"

shouldn't this be first clash?
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
August 22 2013 00:48 GMT
#50
Okay, its fairly obvious that Maru will advance. His skills imo are way above the others, two 2nd tier koreans and a foreigner (even though she may be the best of them). After that though, I think it is a toss up. I'm gonna go ahead and say MMA will advance, just from first thoughts.
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
August 22 2013 00:52 GMT
#51
On August 22 2013 09:44 therabit wrote:
"many future stars also came from that first class"

shouldn't this be first clash?


Nah, it's first class, like X-Men First Class.
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snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
August 22 2013 01:11 GMT
#52
maru > alive
scarlett > mma
scarlett > maru
alive > mma
maru > alive
my prediction :DDDD
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Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
August 22 2013 01:30 GMT
#53
Go Maru!!!!

If only Prime began selling those Sith hoodies again. Would be awesome to see the Maru fan-crowd show up in those
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 22 2013 01:32 GMT
#54
Pretty much feeling the same way about the OP predictions. Maru should be #1 and I could see MMA vs Scarlett pretty much being 50/50. Just have to see who wins the the most important bo3
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VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
August 22 2013 01:35 GMT
#55
Burn into ash? Blasphemy. The Ascendant One will rise again like a phoenix. Be glad he is not vengeful, or surely Life would strike you down upon his return.

Secondarily, these articles are sexy, but you guys are running out of time to publish the last two!

(My predictions are Maru and Scarlett, FWIW, though I'm a little biased)
astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
August 22 2013 01:39 GMT
#56
I'm thinking Maru and MMA.

I haven't watched Maru's round of 32 or 16 matches, but if he can top both groups, it's not just preparing for a match like how he knew the builds to use against Innovation.

MMA has been making a comeback. He's not at the same level as his previous peak, but he's definitely improving from how he was.
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-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
August 22 2013 01:41 GMT
#57
MMA and Scarlett pls
Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
August 22 2013 01:42 GMT
#58
mma will not lose a tvz to scarlett and will do farily good vs maru and win vs alive if needed

maru > mma > scarlett > alive
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 01:49:43
August 22 2013 01:48 GMT
#59
nvm - carry on

*burp*
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
August 22 2013 01:51 GMT
#60
Kind of surprised that as to how hackjob the graphics for this look, great article but wow.
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Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
August 22 2013 01:59 GMT
#61
On August 22 2013 06:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 06:51 Gatesleeper wrote:
Haha, 4 players out of Group B in GSL Open Season 1 are going to the WCS Season Finals this weekend: Maru, MC, Taeja, and Polt.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_TG_Sambo_Intel_StarCraft_II_Open_Season_1/Players


"Four great warriors of old, drawn together by the unrelenting strings of fate, headed toward a final battle. Only one will stand when the dust settles", yada yada. I think I've seen a movie like that

The only thing more awesome would be if all 4 ended up in the same group.

That didn't happen, but they did all end up in different groups. You know what this means...the final 4 this weekend MUST be Maru, MC, Taeja, and Polt. The War of the Ancients.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 22 2013 02:06 GMT
#62
On August 22 2013 10:59 Gatesleeper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 06:58 Zealously wrote:
On August 22 2013 06:51 Gatesleeper wrote:
Haha, 4 players out of Group B in GSL Open Season 1 are going to the WCS Season Finals this weekend: Maru, MC, Taeja, and Polt.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2010_TG_Sambo_Intel_StarCraft_II_Open_Season_1/Players


"Four great warriors of old, drawn together by the unrelenting strings of fate, headed toward a final battle. Only one will stand when the dust settles", yada yada. I think I've seen a movie like that

The only thing more awesome would be if all 4 ended up in the same group.

That didn't happen, but they did all end up in different groups. You know what this means...the final 4 this weekend MUST be Maru, MC, Taeja, and Polt. The War of the Ancients.

sounds like WCIII lol
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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
August 22 2013 02:11 GMT
#63
SCARLETT

MMA

Lets go, Acer contingent!
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
August 22 2013 02:14 GMT
#64
Prince..my ass
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 22 2013 02:24 GMT
#65
Go Acer!
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Tosster
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland299 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 02:32:20
August 22 2013 02:31 GMT
#66
There are 0 chances that MMA advances...
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 22 2013 02:49 GMT
#67
On August 22 2013 11:31 Tosster wrote:
There are 0 chances that MMA advances...

Well... This group has no protoss, i would say MMA has decent shot at advancing :D
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Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
August 22 2013 03:23 GMT
#68
On August 22 2013 10:30 Xarles wrote:
Go Maru!!!!

If only Prime began selling those Sith hoodies again. Would be awesome to see the Maru fan-crowd show up in those


http://primezzang.net/product/프라임-동계-유니폼-상의-하의-풀셋-/SFSELFAA0000176/?main_cate_no=&display_group=1

Maru Hwaiting !
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
August 22 2013 04:45 GMT
#69
On August 22 2013 12:23 Marou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 10:30 Xarles wrote:
Go Maru!!!!

If only Prime began selling those Sith hoodies again. Would be awesome to see the Maru fan-crowd show up in those


http://primezzang.net/product/프라임-동계-유니폼-상의-하의-풀셋-/SFSELFAA0000176/?main_cate_no=&display_group=1

Maru Hwaiting !


I think he means the hoodie before that one - it had a bit of a shine to the hood. (Dammit, I should've bought some Prime swag before the store got stomped down to just the latest hoodie. Now I can only hope opterown grows tired of his and decides to ebay.)

Speaking of that paragon of LR legend, I believe that Maru will get out of this group.

I believe he will, however, do it in second place, because Scarlett knows how to destroy terrans.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 05:14:54
August 22 2013 05:14 GMT
#70
On August 22 2013 11:31 Tosster wrote:
There are 0 chances that MMA advances...


Actually after how he did at ATC, ZvT being tough, MMAvZ making a resurgence, and an inconsistent Alive replacing Jim. I think MMA is actually coming out of this with Maru.

Sorry Scarlett :/
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althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
August 22 2013 05:38 GMT
#71
On August 22 2013 07:34 Boucot wrote:
Gogo Scarlett !

I agree with those predictions. Maru is the favorite, aLive is the underdog and MMA/Scarlett is 40/40.

So there's a 20% chance neither of them win?
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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
August 22 2013 07:33 GMT
#72
On August 22 2013 14:38 althaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 07:34 Boucot wrote:
Gogo Scarlett !

I agree with those predictions. Maru is the favorite, aLive is the underdog and MMA/Scarlett is 40/40.

So there's a 20% chance neither of them win?

40/40 is an ongoing joke here.
cywinr
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada173 Posts
August 22 2013 08:20 GMT
#73
everyone is going to only practice vT so scarlett will come out in first place and it will come down to mma and maru. probably maru. but i hope mma
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
August 22 2013 08:29 GMT
#74
Hopefully Maru will take WCS crown. He is really one of the best players ive ever seen and Prime deserves all the support they can get!
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 08:40:03
August 22 2013 08:39 GMT
#75
I WILL SO WATCH THAT SCARLETT GROUP!!! She has an amazing and entertaining ZvT and is paired up with 3 terrans. Great!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 22 2013 08:51 GMT
#76
Maruuuuuu
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 22 2013 08:58 GMT
#77
On August 22 2013 06:37 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 06:34 Flossy wrote:
What does 29 nine days mean?!?!
29 nine days ago, Maru scored his third upset as he defeated the paragon of consistency


Death

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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
August 22 2013 09:42 GMT
#78
Maru will win!
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
August 22 2013 09:43 GMT
#79
On August 22 2013 14:38 althaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 07:34 Boucot wrote:
Gogo Scarlett !

I agree with those predictions. Maru is the favorite, aLive is the underdog and MMA/Scarlett is 40/40.

So there's a 20% chance neither of them win?

20%? That's not close to how probability statistics work.
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Sidhoum
Profile Joined December 2012
France21 Posts
August 22 2013 10:05 GMT
#80
On August 22 2013 17:20 cywinr wrote:
everyone is going to only practice vT so scarlett will come out in first place and it will come down to mma and maru. probably maru. but i hope mma


I'm not so sure. Maru can perfectly full-cheese/all-in a bo3. He almost did it for a bo7...
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samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
August 22 2013 10:25 GMT
#81
he won't face a protoss this time, not sure if his cheeses will work so well.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10121 Posts
August 22 2013 10:27 GMT
#82
On August 22 2013 19:25 samurai80 wrote:
he won't face a protoss this time, not sure if his cheeses will work so well.

A wild Rain's fanboy appears.
If it's not protoss, you can cheese it.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 22 2013 10:30 GMT
#83
On August 22 2013 19:25 samurai80 wrote:
he won't face a protoss this time, not sure if his cheeses will work so well.

he only won one cheese against rain, rain choked the other games, don't see why that's an issue. pretty sure he was referring to maru-bogus anyway
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Blind Io
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom56 Posts
August 22 2013 10:32 GMT
#84
You wrote "added" twice in the bit about Jim jsyk
TaeJa GOAT
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
August 22 2013 11:17 GMT
#85
that pic of maru in the hood with the caption of prince is fucking awesome!
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 22 2013 12:39 GMT
#86
I don't see any reason why you would predict the same match differently if it happens twice but I guess we kinda all want scarlett to advance
reminds me a little bit of liquid winning the best "foreign" team award in 2012 ^^
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Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
August 22 2013 13:50 GMT
#87
I think Scarlett has a good shot of making it out because MMA and Alive are pretty mediocre these days, but saying that Maru has a SLIGHT advantage vs Scarlett....give me a break. Maru is currently the reigning KR champion and you are going to tell me hes going to lose to a foreigner?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33327 Posts
August 22 2013 13:57 GMT
#88
On August 22 2013 21:39 sVnteen wrote:
I don't see any reason why you would predict the same match differently if it happens twice but I guess we kinda all want scarlett to advance
reminds me a little bit of liquid winning the best "foreign" team award in 2012 ^^


predicting the specific sequence of a dual tournament style group is basically a shot in the dark anyway D:
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
August 22 2013 14:24 GMT
#89
MARUMARUMARUMARU
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Melrik
Profile Joined August 2013
United States2 Posts
August 22 2013 14:52 GMT
#90
Personally, I doesn't matter to me whom anyone says player A will beat player B. As a fan of StarCraft I can not think of 16 other players that I would rather see all play at the same time. I'm waiting anxiously to watch all these games.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
August 22 2013 15:02 GMT
#91
I like the hooded Maru on the front page pic. He can stand in as the new villain of the D3 expansion.
metroid composite
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada231 Posts
August 22 2013 15:37 GMT
#92
On August 22 2013 22:50 Irre wrote:
but saying that Maru has a SLIGHT advantage vs Scarlett....give me a break. Maru is currently the reigning KR champion and you are going to tell me hes going to lose to a foreigner?


Aligulac is 52-48 on Maru vs Scarlett, for what it's worth. According to Aligulac, her odds look better against Maru's TvZ than they do against MMA's TvZ.

Also, does Scarlett really qualify as a foreigner right now? She's been living in Korea and training in a Korean team house for the last...what...six months? She tweets in Korean some percentage of the time. She hovers between 8th-16th on the Korean GM ladder. Not to mention she beat MVP, BBongBBonb, and GanZi on the GSL stage. Surely she at least has graduated from "foreigner" to "korean B teamer" by now....
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Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
August 22 2013 15:54 GMT
#93
On August 23 2013 00:37 metroid composite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 22:50 Irre wrote:
but saying that Maru has a SLIGHT advantage vs Scarlett....give me a break. Maru is currently the reigning KR champion and you are going to tell me hes going to lose to a foreigner?


Aligulac is 52-48 on Maru vs Scarlett, for what it's worth. According to Aligulac, her odds look better against Maru's TvZ than they do against MMA's TvZ.

Also, does Scarlett really qualify as a foreigner right now? She's been living in Korea and training in a Korean team house for the last...what...six months? She tweets in Korean some percentage of the time. She hovers between 8th-16th on the Korean GM ladder. Not to mention she beat MVP, BBongBBonb, and GanZi on the GSL stage. Surely she at least has graduated from "foreigner" to "korean B teamer" by now....



I feel that Aligulac sometimes doesn't handle significant changes in performance over a short period of time well, especially in Korea where Maru's entire rise has come in the space of ~30 games. From the start of Maru's run in OSL (June 20) he's played 32 games counted by Aligulac. MMA in the same time period has played 79 games, and Scalett has played 53, and neither Scarlett or MMA has exhibited the same jump in performance that Maru has. So I would be inclined to say that Maru is a bit underrated by Aligulac. I'm excited/hopeful to see how they match up if they end up playing each other.
balukaz
Profile Joined August 2013
Belgium5 Posts
August 22 2013 16:09 GMT
#94
I just can't believe how many maru doubters there are. Personally I predict Maru to sweep the group 4-0, KR premier league(osl/gsl) is the hardest sc2 competetion there is. KR season 1, 2 and 3 will be the 3 hardest tournaments of 2013, the global finals will only come in 4th place.
As for 2nd place I pick MMA , seeing the atc cup finals I give him the edge above Scarlett in the match up, and Alive's recent history doesn't give him a lot of chance in my opninion.
On a side note: I really hope Maru plays with the OptimusPrime tag, that would be so awesome. That would technically also counter the artosis-curse if Dan predicts Maru to win, since there won't be a Maru :D
Misacampo
Profile Joined July 2012
167 Posts
August 22 2013 16:11 GMT
#95
tbh I don't ever think I've seen tl predictions go AGAINST scarlett.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
August 22 2013 16:32 GMT
#96
On August 23 2013 01:11 Misacampo wrote:
tbh I don't ever think I've seen tl predictions go AGAINST scarlett.

Tbh it sounds like you are trying to expose some kind of propaganda..
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 22 2013 16:39 GMT
#97
On August 23 2013 01:09 balukaz wrote:
I just can't believe how many maru doubters there are. Personally I predict Maru to sweep the group 4-0, KR premier league(osl/gsl) is the hardest sc2 competetion there is. KR season 1, 2 and 3 will be the 3 hardest tournaments of 2013, the global finals will only come in 4th place.
As for 2nd place I pick MMA , seeing the atc cup finals I give him the edge above Scarlett in the match up, and Alive's recent history doesn't give him a lot of chance in my opninion.
On a side note: I really hope Maru plays with the OptimusPrime tag, that would be so awesome. That would technically also counter the artosis-curse if Dan predicts Maru to win, since there won't be a Maru :D

Maru is inconsistent. Heck, i won't wonder if he will bomb out in 3rd place from his GSL Ro32 group. Also, do not forget that on my memory it is one of first events outside of Korea Maru will attend. So you never know.
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Buddy168
Profile Joined June 2012
United States157 Posts
August 22 2013 17:14 GMT
#98
MARUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Let's go Prime!
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 17:19:25
August 22 2013 17:18 GMT
#99
People still underrate Maru after that OSL run? Come on...
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
August 22 2013 17:48 GMT
#100
I really like these write-ups! I sure hope there will be something for the two remaining groups as well and until then, go Scarlett!!
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 19:27:31
August 22 2013 19:08 GMT
#101
On August 23 2013 00:37 metroid composite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 22:50 Irre wrote:
but saying that Maru has a SLIGHT advantage vs Scarlett....give me a break. Maru is currently the reigning KR champion and you are going to tell me hes going to lose to a foreigner?


Aligulac is 52-48 on Maru vs Scarlett, for what it's worth. According to Aligulac, her odds look better against Maru's TvZ than they do against MMA's TvZ.

They play on different regions. Aligulac doesn't handle that well.

For example, check this out

    (1835) LucifroN  0-0  Maru (1876)        
---------------------------------------------
23.22% 2-0 0-2 26.85%
24.06% 2-1 1-2 25.87%
---------------------------------------------
47.27% 52.73%

Median outcome: LucifroN 1-2 Maru

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 22 2013 19:36 GMT
#102
Go Scarlett! Love from Delaware!
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
August 22 2013 20:57 GMT
#103
I'm actually going to go with MMA and Scarlett, MMA has been looking really good lately and I think that the fact he doesn't play in Korea as much benefits him vs. Maru.

Either way, I'm beginning to get extremely psyched by the upcoming finals!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 22 2013 21:05 GMT
#104
i wouldn't worry about aligulac too much for maru, pretty sure he had damn low chances of beating all his bracket opponents in OSL
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Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
August 22 2013 21:37 GMT
#105
Good background info and hype on Maru! I needed something to read today while waiting around and this is great, thank you!
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Rube_Juice
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada348 Posts
August 22 2013 23:16 GMT
#106
GO GO SCARLETT I BELIEVE!!!!!
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
August 22 2013 23:26 GMT
#107
On August 22 2013 13:45 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 12:23 Marou wrote:
On August 22 2013 10:30 Xarles wrote:
Go Maru!!!!

If only Prime began selling those Sith hoodies again. Would be awesome to see the Maru fan-crowd show up in those


http://primezzang.net/product/프라임-동계-유니폼-상의-하의-풀셋-/SFSELFAA0000176/?main_cate_no=&display_group=1

Maru Hwaiting !


I think he means the hoodie before that one - it had a bit of a shine to the hood. (Dammit, I should've bought some Prime swag before the store got stomped down to just the latest hoodie. Now I can only hope opterown grows tired of his and decides to ebay.)

Speaking of that paragon of LR legend, I believe that Maru will get out of this group.

I believe he will, however, do it in second place, because Scarlett knows how to destroy terrans.

Yeah this one http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7237/6913830204_bd47e358df_c.jpg
I wanted to get one around the time of the MLG Winter Arena, but it was sold out. I'd always check up on it once a week, but no luck.
Solux
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia3 Posts
August 23 2013 00:14 GMT
#108
I think Maru has the edge on Scarlett if he cheeses and isn't picked up at the first possible opportunity.

If it goes beyond that and Scarlett defends the first push, Maru hasn't been stomping quite in TvZ as hard as people seem to be estimating. He lost to soO and dropped a game to Symbol, so Scarlett has a chance if it comes to that match.

Also, people looking at Scarlett's ZvT or MMA's TvZ in that matchup need to remember they're teammates and know each other's style incredibly well. It makes the match between them difficult to call in ways predicting any other match in those matchups isn't. It'll probably come down to if MMA makes a mistake, which he sometimes does. The balance between the two is very well put by Stuchiu in that whoever wins the first round is not necessarily likely to win the second if there is one.

aLive just isn't up to the standard required here. There are players he might have fared better against in other groups, but he's had a relatively easy run through WCS America.

Maru > Alive
MMA > Scarlett
Maru > MMA
Scarlett > Alive
Scarlett > MMA

seems pretty right with the possibility of either Scarlett or MMA playing Maru and the one who plays aLive making it out of the group.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
August 23 2013 00:43 GMT
#109
if Maru meets Polt in the season finals and beats him

will Maru be the one TRUE OptimusPrime?
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 23 2013 00:47 GMT
#110
This group will have my on the edge of my seat, Scarlett should be able to make it but the terrans are so damn good too.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 23 2013 00:54 GMT
#111
On August 23 2013 09:43 mikumegurine wrote:
if Maru meets Polt in the season finals and beats him

will Maru be the one TRUE OptimusPrime?


He'll be a Deceptacon for killing Optimus!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12142 Posts
August 23 2013 06:18 GMT
#112
I think Maru will crash and burn in this. MMA + Scarlett advance.
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Mirrikh
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania105 Posts
August 23 2013 07:57 GMT
#113
Nice write-ups.

Maru and Scarlett
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 19:33:29
August 23 2013 19:31 GMT
#114
it's time for maru's little streak to end :O
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