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WCS S2 Finals: MC, The $400,000 Man (Group A Preview) - Pa…

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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 21 2013 05:27 GMT
#61
On August 21 2013 14:17 XtreMe_au wrote:
People totally overestimating MC... And underestimating Jaedong... Three second place finishes in premier tourneys is pretty good. He's definitely getting better over time. Rain/Jaedong

Inb4 JD actually takes 2nd place falling to... let it be TaeJa, cause summer is not over, rite :D?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 05:31:02
August 21 2013 05:30 GMT
#62
I wanna see Rain vs Maru again. Rain gogogo
And MC is gonna fall. He moved to this finals through some miracle. Just got very lucky. In this group no chance. ofc only vs JD
GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
August 21 2013 06:10 GMT
#63
Forgot to mention MC's GSL 2nd place in 2012 as well as the timeline of him having a girlfriend with his standing as a player.
High Diamond/ Low Masters :^)
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
August 21 2013 06:11 GMT
#64
keen for mc and jaekong to do well!
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
nickzzang89
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)11 Posts
August 21 2013 06:37 GMT
#65
Never doubt the Boss Toss!
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
August 21 2013 06:45 GMT
#66
'His relentless pursuit of wealth' is actually the most reasonable thing a progamer can accomplish in their short-lived careers. Great write up!
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 21 2013 07:12 GMT
#67
Rain will make it, no doubt. Would be really cool to see Jaedong and MC advance together, but that's probably not going to happen. As long as Welmu doesn't make it out, I guess I have to be satisfied.

Either way, great writeup on MC.
Flash | Mvp
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 21 2013 07:12 GMT
#68
Rain should be used to PvProleague, so I don't expect him to fall out there. I wouldn't count Jaedong out though, his JvP improved - and let's be honest, MC and Welmu are not exactly the hardest guys. With a bit of luck, it might go this way for JD:

MC > Welmu
Rain > Jaedong
Jaedong > Welmu
MC < Rain
Jaedong > MC

I'm just not expecting Welmu to do well somehow

Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
August 21 2013 07:36 GMT
#69
I think that if Welmu will go to ro8 he must win his first match against MC. Rain will most likely win Jaedong and Welmu vs Rain might be really good for Welmu because I don't expect Rain to know who Welmu is and how scary his pvp can be, it might catch Rain offguard (And Welmu most likely knows everything about Rain)

If Welmu vs Jaedong happens I have a feeling that JD wins, I think he might be the hardest opponent for Welmu.

Prediction:

Welmu > MC
Rain > JD
Welmu < Rain
MC > JD
Welmu > MC
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
August 21 2013 07:44 GMT
#70
MC and Rain looks logical but I don't know why, I think there will be an upset and JD is going to make it. Welmu has a decent PvP iirc but I don't think he can take more than one BO3.
So I predict JD and Rain to go through.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
August 21 2013 07:52 GMT
#71
Rain first then Jaedong.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
gamegold6
Profile Joined August 2013
4 Posts
August 21 2013 08:05 GMT
#72
--- Nuked ---
zuqbu
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany797 Posts
August 21 2013 08:14 GMT
#73
From here on forward I'm going to put all my effort to be perceived by everyone as a strong player. I'm sure there were many people who predicted Byung Goo hyung's victory but I'll make sure nothing as such happens from now on. source

ee han 22/12/2007 never forget
o_O
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
August 21 2013 08:24 GMT
#74
I know Jaedong ZvP is bad but not this bad. He has a good chance to qualify. He learned how to stop 2 base all-ins.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
thirtyapm
Profile Joined January 2012
521 Posts
August 21 2013 08:32 GMT
#75
mc is always so lovable heh.

"Stephano is the greatest non-Korean of all time"
nah... i still much prefer naniwa
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
August 21 2013 08:33 GMT
#76
Rain and MC all the way. really want the boss toss to achieve his earnings goal ever since he was robbed of being a 3 time protoss GSL champion from Seed!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 08:51:25
August 21 2013 08:50 GMT
#77
Find this article pretty disappointing in terms of how it is written and a tad disrespectful :S The meaning behind it is not bad but the way it is worded makes it sound pretty awful >.< (The MC part that is)

Also being the player with the biggest prize money winnings to me says your the best player...MVP has one the biggest competitions and the most times, but he rarely stepped out of Korea in that time where as MC was globetrotting his way picking up cheques left right and centre, that is why if he gets top of that money list he thoroughly deserves to be the best which he clearly would be as he has won the most money...

I think the predictions are right but i would say;

MC
Rain
Jaedong
Welmu

I just see Jaedong winning one of his JvPs ^_^
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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
August 21 2013 08:56 GMT
#78
So on prizemoney alone, he's been getting 125k dollars a year, then you add salary and sponsorships on to that and he's making so much money

No wonder hes putting a few pounds on :p
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Mikelius
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany517 Posts
August 21 2013 08:58 GMT
#79
I just want MC to do well, Bosstoss fighting!
Less QQ, more PewPew
FnaticPink
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark324 Posts
August 21 2013 09:14 GMT
#80
Bo$$ To$$
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