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WCS S2 Finals: MC, The $400,000 Man (Group A Preview) - Pa…

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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 21 2013 00:21 GMT
#21
hmm I'm kind of surprised by this one. I mean initially I lol'd at poor JD too, but really thinking about it, he has a good shot at getting out.

Rain is going to murder him ofc, but MC and Welmu? JD might actually be favored over those two, or at least 50/50 with MC (MC won the last encounter but it was close).

Also, MC over Rain? Rain has been struggling in PvP, but that's against scarier competition to what MC's been up against lately.

That being said, I hope MC and JD make it

NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
August 21 2013 00:21 GMT
#22
jaedong will win everything
Forever ZeNEX.
Seiju
Profile Joined July 2013
Hong Kong23 Posts
August 21 2013 00:25 GMT
#23
Hard to imagine Rain going out so early indeed, but that might also be his Achilles' heel. Never comfortable to be in this position. Skillwise he should make it through though.
For Welmu it's quite the opposite, he has nothing to lose but the event might be a little oversized for him atm. Hope he learns, we need more ambitious foreigners around.

Otherwise however, I find this group kinda difficult to predict. Especially I wouldn't give MC too much edge against Jaedong, who's had more than ever all the reasons in the world to work on his JvP. All of this should be quite entertaining.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 21 2013 00:27 GMT
#24
Jaedong fighting! I really hope he can overcome his mental matchup block and advance.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
August 21 2013 00:29 GMT
#25
MC is still awesome, congrats to him and his success.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 21 2013 00:31 GMT
#26
come on welmu u got dis
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
August 21 2013 00:36 GMT
#27
You said Rain is the OSL champion... but Maru is. Rain is "an" OSL champion.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
August 21 2013 00:37 GMT
#28
On August 21 2013 09:10 Dodgin wrote:
I was curious exactly how many more tournaments MC has played in than Mvp, it kind of shocked me.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MC/Results

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mvp_(player)/Results

If you look from October 2011 to present, in Mvp's list there are 25 tournaments. In MC's list there are 41.

Holy shit, wow. That's a huge difference, I didn't realize it was so big.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 21 2013 00:51 GMT
#29
I feel the Rain coming...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
August 21 2013 00:52 GMT
#30
Once a Boss, always a Boss, go go MC!
@ranleee /// "first we expand, then we defense it'
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
August 21 2013 00:56 GMT
#31
On August 21 2013 09:37 Gorlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 09:10 Dodgin wrote:
I was curious exactly how many more tournaments MC has played in than Mvp, it kind of shocked me.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MC/Results

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mvp_(player)/Results

If you look from October 2011 to present, in Mvp's list there are 25 tournaments. In MC's list there are 41.

Holy shit, wow. That's a huge difference, I didn't realize it was so big.


Also, take into account that MC won a GSL Open Season when the prize money amount was much greater than a regular season. If MC and Mvp's first GSL championships were switched, Mvp would be sitting at #1 right now.
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
khy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States475 Posts
August 21 2013 01:08 GMT
#32
no ee han timing for jaedong this time.
rEdEEmEd
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada68 Posts
August 21 2013 01:15 GMT
#33
I don't understand why it's so important to break a money level.

What's the difference between 400k 500k 600k and 900k? You just can't say when it will be enough.

Go MC still and JDDD!
The tyrant will go through this and leave 3 protoss brawl.
And, well….he’s Jaedong. And because he’s Jaedong, he is probably pretty damn sick of 2nd places. And because he’s Jaedong, and he’s sick of 2nd places, he might just hit SSJ (Super Sayain Jaedong) level 2 and kill everybody. -Artosis
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 21 2013 01:30 GMT
#34
Still praying that Jaedong makes it through.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
August 21 2013 01:36 GMT
#35
MC over Rain......thats a pretty bold prediction
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
August 21 2013 01:40 GMT
#36
This is kind of an interesting group in that no player looks particularly strong. Welmu is a foreigner, MC hasn't shown dominating play in quite awhile, Jaedong has to deal with the famed JvP, and Rain, although definitely deserving of his #2 power rank spot, hasn't had strong results in PvP lately.
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
August 21 2013 01:43 GMT
#37
Rain first
Jaedong second
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
iGn1t3
Profile Joined May 2011
Hong Kong73 Posts
August 21 2013 01:50 GMT
#38
Release the Dong!
I lose today to win tomorrow.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 21 2013 01:50 GMT
#39
On August 21 2013 10:15 rEdEEmEd wrote:
I don't understand why it's so important to break a money level.

What's the difference between 400k 500k 600k and 900k? You just can't say when it will be enough.

Go MC still and JDDD!
The tyrant will go through this and leave 3 protoss brawl.

Just an arbituary milestone, no significance really
Refer to my post.
ccishaman
Profile Joined May 2013
Greece6 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 01:54:57
August 21 2013 01:53 GMT
#40
MC>Rain? hahaha good one
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