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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 20 2013 05:13 ramask2 wrote: At this rate, Blizzard might as well just buy a cruise ship, sail to pick up each players in their home country, then host the damn final offshore in international waters. Better yet: BattleCruiser! | ||
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Kommatiazo
United States579 Posts
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Sky101
United States1758 Posts
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
Develop some common sense, I beg of you. Sad to see this news. I know we'll see a lot more Jim in the future though. Makes sense to send aLive through, even though he's not someone that I root for, still can't disagree with that. With eSports growing and learning in all parts of the world, these problems will lessen over time. viOLet's issue is different though. He competed over and over after performing illegal actions that would 100% bar him from getting a visa. That's different from being unable to get a visa due to long and complicated processes that have never even been seen before by any SC2 player. Sure you could still blame Jim, or you could grow up and say shit happens. He's not in a bad place here. | ||
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KarlSiegt
Italy36 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On August 20 2013 05:46 Sky101 wrote: Ah man, the bureaucracy mess of communism. You have to go back to the original place of residency to obtain official documents (visa, passport, etc..). Here in America, dun matter what state you were born in, you can apply for those docs anywhere. Please tell me more about your great system and on how we can apply it on a population over four times its size in which 99,9% of its population can be covered with just 150 family names.  /s | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On August 20 2013 05:46 Sky101 wrote: Ah man, the bureaucracy mess of communism. You have to go back to the original place of residency to obtain official documents (visa, passport, etc..). Here in America, dun matter what state you were born in, you can apply for those docs anywhere. Please tell me more about your great system and on how we can apply it on a population over four times its size in which 99,9% of its population can be covered with just 150 family names. /s Not trying to defend the chinese government, but the bueaucratic system which is currently in place might have more reasons than just the political system. | ||
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Sky101
United States1758 Posts
On August 20 2013 06:01 JustPassingBy wrote: Please tell me more about your great system and on how we can apply it on a population over four times its size in which 99,9% of its population can be covered with just 150 family names. /s Have you ever been to any communist country outside of China? | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On August 20 2013 05:54 Shinta) wrote: Eesh, the response from TL is so childish. People and their mighty thrones with their illadvised intentions. Develop some common sense, I beg of you. Sad to see this news. I know we'll see a lot more Jim in the future though. Makes sense to send aLive through, even though he's not someone that I root for, still can't disagree with that. With eSports growing and learning in all parts of the world, these problems will lessen over time. viOLet's issue is different though. He competed over and over after performing illegal actions that would 100% bar him from getting a visa. That's different from being unable to get a visa due to long and complicated processes that have never even been seen before by any SC2 player. Sure you could still blame Jim, or you could grow up and say shit happens. He's not in a bad place here. what did violet do? i only found this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423939 | ||
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shmget
118 Posts
On August 20 2013 05:46 Sky101 wrote: Ah man, the bureaucracy mess of communism. You have to go back to the original place of residency to obtain official documents (visa, passport, etc..). Here in America, dun matter what state you were born in, you can apply for those docs anywhere. In the US, if for some reason your finger-prints card is not 'good enough' (and _they_ take theses, and you cannot make your fingerprints more 'readable' than they are), then they make you get an affidavit from the police station each and every place you lived in the last 5 years indicating that you did not commit any felony or serious misdemeanor ... yeah that is so much more streamlined.... and that is just _one_ example. and no, it is not a US specialty either... _every_ bureaucracies in the world are like that.... the only variation is how much money and/or connections does it take to bypass the red-tape. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 20 2013 06:01 JustPassingBy wrote: Please tell me more about your great system and on how we can apply it on a population over four times its size in which 99,9% of its population can be covered with just 150 family names. /s Well the document needed to be notarized and confirmed and confirmed to have been signed by his mother. So we just handled that by having a system to create notaries in each town. Its really not a super complicated system. In my state you need 10 names and go take a couple of classes. Then after that, you get sworn in and you get a sweet stamp and seal. Mine is pretty awesome. | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
On August 20 2013 06:04 dAPhREAk wrote: what did violet do? i only found this. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423939 Violet simply overstayed his initial visa's duration, to the best of my knowledge. Unless he gets married to an American, he can't come back here. | ||
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SidewinderSC2
United States236 Posts
On August 19 2013 23:32 stratmatt wrote: IMO, anyone with a history of forfeiting wcs spots due to visa issues should be suspended for a season. I don't care if its harsh, because the only thing harsher is the fact that numerous players are missing out on a chance to compete due to losing to people who cant even make it to all their matches. How many more future NA spots are going to be robbed by koreans/chinese players who cant even attend the finals or sometimes even the ro16? Such bullshit. Then maybe those players should beat the Korean/Chinese players in fair competition instead of defaulting into the finals simply because of where they are from. Those players are "missing out" because they aren't as good. That's how competition works. Besides, most of the time when somebody cannot attend an event, they get replaced by the next-in-line anyway. Your post reeks of racism or some pointless loyalty to exclusive competition simply due to where people were born. The best players should be able to play in the best events. I don't want to see some mediocre NA pro get hammered by a Korean only because he was born in the US or Canada. I want to see only Koreans if they are the best players. If other regions can't keep up then they need to practice more and get better, rather than expecting a tournament format to default them into the main event. Blizzard needs to seek visas the same way that Riot did. If they want their product to be a legit, long-term industry then they should be finding ways to get their top-flight competitors around the world without issue. It is a bit disappointing that Blizzard hasn't even expressed any concern over the constant visa issues surrounding their game's tournaments. | ||
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
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Iodem
United States1173 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Deleted User 261926
960 Posts
On August 19 2013 23:32 stratmatt wrote: IMO, anyone with a history of forfeiting wcs spots due to visa issues should be suspended for a season. I don't care if its harsh, because the only thing harsher is the fact that numerous players are missing out on a chance to compete due to losing to people who cant even make it to all their matches. How many more future NA spots are going to be robbed by koreans/chinese players who cant even attend the finals or sometimes even the ro16? Such bullshit. Until they'll stop being bad compared to them. | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On August 20 2013 06:53 Iodem wrote: I hope they give Jim his $5000 and 500 WCS Points for 16th place... Yes they will. No matter the outcome, Jim will still receive all WCS Points and prize money he earned from his performance in WCS America thus far, including the League Finals. It’s also important to note that Jim will retain his Premier League placement and seeding as we head in to WCS America Season 3. | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
Any idea where this will put him with his WCS points? Will he qualify for this year's BWC? | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
Still sucks for them Chinese passports. | ||
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