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WCS Europe wrapped up its Challenger League for Season 2, determining the last four group winners and finalizing the Season 3 Premier League Roster.  ForGG,  FireCake, KrasS, and  Genius were able to grab the final four spots, with MaNa, Beastyqt, Tefel, and AlaStOr missing the cut.
Challenger League Group Stage ResultsTop two advance to Premier League.
3rd place remains in Challenger League.
4th place eliminated from Challenger League (must play in Challenger League prelims)
*Siw and Stephano forfeited due to retirement.Detailed match results on Liquipedia
Overall, it was a season that offered several newcomers a chance to shine, while many veterans also lost their foothold in the Premier League. ShoWTimE, Targa, Noname, BlinG, FireCake, and Genius are all first time EU Premier League players, and will look to make the best of their opportunity. On the other hand, several players who were initially season into the Premier League at the start of the year dropped out, with SortOf, DIMAGA, Ret, Bly and MaNa needing to work their way back up from Challenger.
WCS Europe Season 3 Premier League Players (32) -  15 /  10 /  7
Season 2 Top Eight (8)
duckdeok, MC, Grubby, Welmu, NaNiwa, HasuObs, MMA, VortiX
Challenger League Bracket Stage Winners (8)
TitaN, StarDust, ToD, BabyKnight, Mvp, Happy, sLivko, Starbuck
Challenger League Group Stage Winners (16)
ShowTime, BlinG, SaSe, TAiLS, Genius Noname, ThorZaIN, LucifroN, Kas, Shuttle, ForGG, KrasS, TargA, Nerchio, TLO, FireCake
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Pretty balanced but still Toss mostly.
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TLO standing strong! If he makes it to the Season finals in the US then he has a good shot at making the top 16 for the Grand Finals. C'mon Liquid!
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Where are you Ret! 
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3 Polish players (Mana, uzer, Tefel) lost their promotion matches QQ
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Wow, I totally missed how ShowTime managed to secure himself the top spot in his group. Granted it wasn't (one of) the strongest group, but still mad respect for him! The same goes to KrasS, now we will finally see more non-Protoss Germans in Code S! :D
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firecake .. how, just how ..
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Wow 15 toss. GomTvT gone ESLPvP
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Hoping to see Stardust make a deep run!
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Wished SortOf and Ret had made it instead of 2 protoss, then the balanced would have been decent.
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I'd just wish for Thorzain to provide some entertaining games again. Back in WoL, he was such a great guy, and I really miss him making strong appearances in tournaments.
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Number of Koreans rising with every season. Now there are 9 Koreans in EU Premier.
It's definitely slower, but I'm afraid of the trend..
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On August 19 2013 21:34 Waxangel wrote:
On the other hand, several players who were initially season into the Premier League at the start of the year dropped out, with SortOf, DIMAGA, Ret, Bly and MaNa needing to work their way back up from Challenger.
Not to forget that 4th place finishers are completely out of Challenger (like Ret(!!!)).
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On August 19 2013 21:42 Jampackedeon wrote:
TLO standing strong! If he makes it to the Season finals in the US then he has a good shot at making the top 16 for the Grand Finals. C'mon Liquid!
Taeja's place in this Season Finals combined with Season 3 may land him there too hopefully!
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So, should there be WCS Europe 2014 with same rules we will have 20 toss (11->12->15->i take a wild guess of 20)?
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On August 19 2013 22:23 Semmo wrote:Number of Koreans rising with every season. Now there are 9 Koreans in EU Premier. It's definitely slower, but I'm afraid of the trend..
We are almost out of decent Korean protoss.
Since the wall of lag keeps other races away from the qualifiers we should be fine.
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It's like the polar opposite of WoL where it was common to see ZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTPP :D
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This firecake thing is kind of a joke i hope.
Otherwise lineup looks cool (lack a bit of zergies tho)
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The problem being that the top 8 from last season still get in. So the fact the top 8 was 6 Protoss means the Protoss favouring is not going to end.
However a crap ton of Terrans got in this season and I would be surprised if MMA and mvp weren't up there at the end of the season. So it's not all bad. Zergs just gotta step it up. If FireCake can do it, so can you!
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Some top Europeans are following Socke out of WCS I hope Socke, Strelok, Ret, Bly :'(
MaNa, Dimaga, Dayshi in challenger
Nice to see more up and coming Europeans like KrasS make it through...and this FireCake guy can't be that bad :X
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On August 19 2013 21:57 Makro wrote:
firecake .. how, just how ..
They always told me the cake is lie but it is real!
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Firecake actually looked reasonably good in his challenger league matches. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he finished top 16..
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If you acctually watched Firecake vs Mana two bo3 games, you would see how Firecake is sick up and coming player. GGs wp man 
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This just means that there needs to be a 4th WCS Region... That way we don't have to worry about rapid transitions. Think about it: what if Jim had more than just one week's time to prepare for this?
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Some 1st hand conclusions:
overflow of P, koreans and not only. Old faces going out for the most part (Beastyqt, Strelok, Bly, Ret, Elfi, even AlastOr)
Plus, as a reply to this:
On August 19 2013 22:20 boxerfred wrote:
I'd just wish for Thorzain to provide some entertaining games again. Back in WoL, he was such a great guy, and I really miss him making strong appearances in tournaments.
Thorzain finished 1st place after announcing semi-retirement. Maybe he'll play better in semi-retirement?!
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FireCake is the new stephanoooooooo
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Protoss player only in PvP Groups pls ....
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Last season we had Welmu, this season we have Firecake? Let's see if he gets far 
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Firecake ♥( to be the new stephano ? ). And thorzain made it, so happy for him.
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I hope for a group with Duckdeok, Stardust, Tails and Shuttle 
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It's all about the Toss in Europe. Must be the better aesthetic sense.
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On August 20 2013 00:29 DaCruise wrote:I hope for a group with Duckdeok, Stardust, Tails and Shuttle
So duckdeok and stardust advance and tails and shuttle are left to farm Challenger league yet again? What shall that change :D?
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Only 15 toss, rather disappointed tbh. That's only double the zergs +1. Oh well PvP isn't that bad these day's to watch.
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Dimaga, Ret, San, Mana, Ghost of Stephano nooooo D:
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On August 20 2013 03:01 Lysanias wrote:
Only 15 toss, rather disappointed tbh. That's only double the zergs +1. Oh well PvP isn't that bad these day's to watch.
Well, i think that toss train seems to be picking up the momentum and we may end with 20 toss in WCS EuroPvPe next season, should it be in the same format).
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On August 19 2013 22:41 Nekovivie wrote:
It's like the polar opposite of WoL where it was common to see ZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTPP :D
it was more like ZZZZZPPPPT
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Does anyone know when the draw will be done for the group stage season 3?
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So who's this Firecake kid and why are people getting emotional over him?
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On August 20 2013 04:19 Sevre wrote:
So who's this Firecake kid and why are people getting emotional over him?
Well, he is kinda Noname, but zerg and French.
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On August 20 2013 04:19 Sevre wrote:
So who's this Firecake kid and why are people getting emotional over him?
apparently he's known in the French scene as being extremely arrogant and bm.
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On August 19 2013 22:40 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 22:23 Semmo wrote:Number of Koreans rising with every season. Now there are 9 Koreans in EU Premier. It's definitely slower, but I'm afraid of the trend.. We are almost out of decent Korean protoss. Since the wall of lag keeps other races away from the qualifiers we should be fine.
meh come one thats bs, telling me that the FF race has less problems then the zergs is mehhh
On August 20 2013 04:47 mikkmagro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 04:19 Sevre wrote:
So who's this Firecake kid and why are people getting emotional over him? apparently he's known in the French scene as being extremely arrogant and bm.
problem is, he is now in premium league, so he deserves his arrogance now xD
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Krass once again randomly deciding to wreck havoc. You can never count him out, he might just go beast mode again for 2 months.
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time for Genius to PvP his way to the title!
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Nice to see some fan favorite make it through! Disappointing about San though :/
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Super dumb question: where are these vods?
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I cant believe San didn't make it
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On August 20 2013 14:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:I cant believe San didn't make it
Seems like someone swapped online and offline san :D
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On August 20 2013 12:05 Doc Brawler wrote:
Super dumb question: where are these vods?
ESL youtube page
Edit: im not sure about challanger league tho...
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Yea I don't think they are on ESL youtube...
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DIMAGA
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¡Viva Britania!
We have a Brit in the premier league! Probably won't last long but BlinG is in, woo woo!
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On August 20 2013 04:47 mikkmagro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 04:19 Sevre wrote:
So who's this Firecake kid and why are people getting emotional over him? apparently he's known in the French scene as being extremely arrogant and bm.
Actually saw this when he played ForGG and left with a "Meh, I'm terrible" - not so much bm but he is known for being BM in the French scene.
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On August 20 2013 18:26 x89 wrodte:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 04:47 mikkmagro wrote:On August 20 2013 04:19 Sevre wrote:
So who's this Firecake kid and why are people getting emotional over him? apparently he's known in the French scene as being extremely arrogant and bm. Actually saw this when he played ForGG and left with a "Meh, I'm terrible" - not so much bm but he is known for being BM in the French scene.
You should look at Harstem's twitter. You'd see that his reputation crossed borders
He was nice during WCS though.
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So excited to see TLO coming through! One of the few foreigners who's still competing at the very top with the Koreans. :D
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On August 20 2013 04:47 mikkmagro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 04:19 Sevre wrote:
So who's this Firecake kid and why are people getting emotional over him? apparently he's known in the French scene as being extremely arrogant and bm.
Ok man this is totally wrong. Firecake is known because he's been one of the top random player on european ladder, such as Nerchio few years ago. One year ago he has defeat Adel during WCS France, that's one of the first time we saw him offline.
He is also really present on french official bnet sc2 forums.
And well with Stephano retiring a new French zerg coming is like ... Interessant I guess
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On August 20 2013 04:47 mikkmagro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 04:19 Sevre wrote:
So who's this Firecake kid and why are people getting emotional over him? apparently he's known in the French scene as being extremely arrogant and bm.
everytime i meet him on ladder, i feel the hard urge of allining. too bad hes pretty good at building units early :/
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On August 19 2013 23:08 BlackCompany wrote:They always told me the cake is lie but it is real!
not played the exp alot , after read some reply , wow a foreigner !! , i was sure he was ''zerg'' and checked and he zerg
guess the exp start to look the same that wol .
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EPT
