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tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
August 14 2013 21:37 GMT
#221
I know this is a hard offtopic but I always disliked the idea of tournaments paying players/teams to come over. If their own sponsors are not interested in them showing up to an event to promote them why would the tournament have too?

Sad for Axiom ofc but again, I am just not a fan of tournaments paying more the the prize money. Hi at IPL
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 14 2013 21:37 GMT
#222
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 14 2013 21:41 GMT
#223
On August 15 2013 06:37 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 06:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 06:17 JimmiC wrote:
On August 15 2013 06:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:50 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:47 renaissanceMAN wrote:
I don't care if TB is going to be my friend or not, why did you message me? Are you trying to make me feel bad?

He doesn’t like it that people disagree with him on the internet while also supporting a guy who has provided us with hours of entertainment at no cost to ourselves. He thinks you’re a fanboy because of that.


P.S. he's madder now that I posted about how he messaged me (and messaged me again).


P.s. Not madder, Most people would just not like to read a flame war on the threads and would rather it be taken privately. You would rather try to impress your inet friends

Stop sending messages to people that disagree with you. None of us are friends. We just all enjoy you making an ass of yourself.


We all, is you and 2 other guys. Most other people have posted in agreement with what I have said. They simply have done it unattached to my posts because TB singled me out and they rightfully assumed that some of his fanboys would join in.

I to am 33 but I don't get off on bullying. I try to respond to the points and what people actually say.

Its funny to me that you yourself posted that TB's post insulting MVP was a mistake, but then jump on my case.

I also believe that none of you are friends, (the lack of friends explains the need to fit in) just trying hard to make them not really knowing how.
Yes, because I managed to do it in a polite, respectful manner. Notice how he didn't freak out at me when he came in there. And I am not bullying you, I just don't see the reason for your problem with TB. He is acting as he always has.

And once again, calling people fanboys just becaue they disagree with you does not do anything for your case. I disagree with TB all the time, but that doesn't mean I'm a dick about it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Foudzing
Profile Joined December 2011
France181 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 21:43:43
August 14 2013 21:41 GMT
#224
On August 15 2013 06:00 Gamegene wrote:
will ForGG get a visa? >:O


He got it, he's back in France very very soon.

But we really don't know if Millenium will be able to get the SC2 squad together, only Adel is at the gaming house right now (plus ForGG joining him), all the others members are all around the world, it will be very difficult to get a decent roster...
Looks like a job for super Lewellys! :D
Bomber and MKP Forever <3 | Dayshi | Maru | Feast | Symbol | ForGG | Bly | Dream Millenium Fighting!
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 21:47:50
August 14 2013 21:47 GMT
#225
On August 15 2013 06:41 Foudzing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 06:00 Gamegene wrote:
will ForGG get a visa? >:O


He got it, he's back in France very very soon.

But we really don't know if Millenium will be able to get the SC2 squad together, only Adel is at the gaming house right now (plus ForGG joining him), all the others members are all around the world, it will be very difficult to get a decent roster...
Looks like a job for super Lewellys! :D


Roster is confirmed :

http://taketv.net/news/-12-08-13-7387
ForGG
Dayshi
Goswser
ToD
Adelscott


Dayshi even sits next to take on his ladder stream right now. :D
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 14 2013 21:51 GMT
#226
ToD and ForGG!? Aww yiss.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
alphaproxy
Profile Joined October 2012
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 21:53:03
August 14 2013 21:52 GMT
#227
I can understand the Miya and Crank problems and those two are probably enough to skip going to the finals. i don't know if recruiting someone to fill up the spots has any meaning.

Its interesting to know if team leagues have covered expenses so far, yet that's not the point is it? As far as Axiom is concerned TAKE didn't inform them in a proper manner. Which is obviously stated here.
"We were not directly made aware that teams would only receive $1500 for the entire team to travel from Korea to Germany until flights were ridiculously overpriced. ($1500 per team is comped by ATC, not per person)"

So blame TAKE not Axiom. If TAKE wasn't to blame he would have said so in his statement. Hes not stupid.

"There is not much time left to prepare for DreamHack Bucharest and we want to be in top condition."

Any important team would give up participating to a "minor" tournament to practice for a major one. Thats the way things work in all (e)sports. Also a major reason.



Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 14 2013 21:56 GMT
#228
On August 15 2013 06:52 alphaproxy wrote:
I can understand the Miya and Crank problems and those two are probably enough to skip going to the finals. i don't know if recruiting someone to fill up the spots has any meaning.

Its interesting to know if team leagues have covered expenses so far, yet that's not the point is it? As far as Axiom is concerned TAKE didn't inform them in a proper manner. Which is obviously stated here.
"We were not directly made aware that teams would only receive $1500 for the entire team to travel from Korea to Germany until flights were ridiculously overpriced. ($1500 per team is comped by ATC, not per person)"

So blame TAKE not Axiom. If TAKE wasn't to blame he would have said so in his statement. Hes not stupid.

"There is not much time left to prepare for DreamHack Bucharest and we want to be in top condition."

Any important team would give up participating to a "minor" tournament to practice for a major one. Thats the way things work in all (e)sports. Also a major reason.




http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401673&currentpage=5#89

We cover 1500 Dollar travelexpenses to support the teams Plus! Hotels for the teams so that they don t have to pay all the costs!!! I hope this shows that we want to help the teams and we know its expensive to send 4-5 players!

I might be wrong but for me it's 1500 for the whole team.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
August 14 2013 21:58 GMT
#229
On August 15 2013 06:37 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 06:22 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 06:17 JimmiC wrote:
On August 15 2013 06:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:50 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:47 renaissanceMAN wrote:
I don't care if TB is going to be my friend or not, why did you message me? Are you trying to make me feel bad?

He doesn’t like it that people disagree with him on the internet while also supporting a guy who has provided us with hours of entertainment at no cost to ourselves. He thinks you’re a fanboy because of that.


P.S. he's madder now that I posted about how he messaged me (and messaged me again).


P.s. Not madder, Most people would just not like to read a flame war on the threads and would rather it be taken privately. You would rather try to impress your inet friends

Stop sending messages to people that disagree with you. None of us are friends. We just all enjoy you making an ass of yourself.


We all, is you and 2 other guys. Most other people have posted in agreement with what I have said. They simply have done it unattached to my posts because TB singled me out and they rightfully assumed that some of his fanboys would join in.

I to am 33 but I don't get off on bullying. I try to respond to the points and what people actually say.

Its funny to me that you yourself posted that TB's post insulting MVP was a mistake, but then jump on my case.

I also believe that none of you are friends, (the lack of friends explains the need to fit in) just trying hard to make them not really knowing how.

You may not bully, but you add in condescending shit and talk down to someone as if they don't know or consider things when they know way more than you and deserve your respect. Here are a few examples!
-..then you must not be too bright
-You should really stop posting cause you just look like a dink.
-When you are a part of a competitive team you would be silly and naive to think that everyone is going to love you and accept your explanations.
-You have to take into account the public relations
-Maybe you are new to entertainment
Keep in mind who you are talking to... Someone who has dumped a ton of their own money into the scene, casted multiple international events and has their own team of skilled and accomplished players. Show some respect and don't pretend like you're smarter when you don't know the whole situation, but still insist on using your hindsight to make it seem as though he doesn't consider his options or his PR.


mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
August 14 2013 21:58 GMT
#230
Poorly handled IMO. Should be well aware of tournament rules (i.e compensation) and sought to get confirmation if it was unclear from the beginning. Also all planning should involve some sort of contingency if shit goes wrong.

Ew.
alphaproxy
Profile Joined October 2012
68 Posts
August 14 2013 22:02 GMT
#231
On August 15 2013 06:56 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 06:52 alphaproxy wrote:
I can understand the Miya and Crank problems and those two are probably enough to skip going to the finals. i don't know if recruiting someone to fill up the spots has any meaning.

Its interesting to know if team leagues have covered expenses so far, yet that's not the point is it? As far as Axiom is concerned TAKE didn't inform them in a proper manner. Which is obviously stated here.
"We were not directly made aware that teams would only receive $1500 for the entire team to travel from Korea to Germany until flights were ridiculously overpriced. ($1500 per team is comped by ATC, not per person)"

So blame TAKE not Axiom. If TAKE wasn't to blame he would have said so in his statement. Hes not stupid.

"There is not much time left to prepare for DreamHack Bucharest and we want to be in top condition."

Any important team would give up participating to a "minor" tournament to practice for a major one. Thats the way things work in all (e)sports. Also a major reason.




http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401673&currentpage=5#89

Show nested quote +
We cover 1500 Dollar travelexpenses to support the teams Plus! Hotels for the teams so that they don t have to pay all the costs!!! I hope this shows that we want to help the teams and we know its expensive to send 4-5 players!

I might be wrong but for me it's 1500 for the whole team.


Sorry, the last 2 parts of my post were trollish. I can only understand the missing players reason.
JimSocks
Profile Joined February 2009
United States968 Posts
August 14 2013 22:18 GMT
#232
axiom doesn't have money to go, so they not going.
alphaproxy
Profile Joined October 2012
68 Posts
August 14 2013 22:26 GMT
#233
On August 15 2013 06:20 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 06:11 Penev wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:53 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:49 renaissanceMAN wrote:
This JimmiC kid getting destroyed by tb.

Its fun to watch. I like his excuses of “OMG TB your such a passive aggressive(TB is mostly aggressive) drama queen. You should EXPECT me to jump on the hate train when you make an announcement I don’t like. This is the internet and hating on people is what we do. I man, seriously, why would you disrespect your fans(the fans are watching TB rip him apart and feel totally respected) by posting this crap. Your so fake famous.”

Its pretty funny, though I bet the guy doesn’t even know its funny.

These posts are the worst I've read so far and that says a lot. How old are you, 12?
Don't get me wrong; I'm not agreeing with JimmiC but what exactly is the purpose of these 2 posts?


I am 33 and enjoy watching people who have no idea what they are talking about get upset about things they don't understand and then getting yelled at for it.

Its the simple things in life. I also like going for walks and watching puppies fight over chew toys.

Also:


Cute. we love the same things ))))))))

"Can you not read the words Team League? Or did you miss that part?"

"offline finals of sc2l is at dh bucharest. I think Axiom payed those flights. And i dont think GSTL covers intercontinental travel costs. So which teamleague does in fact pay? IPTL? yeah.. they must be the standard.."

The silence...
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 14 2013 22:31 GMT
#234
On August 15 2013 06:20 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 06:11 Penev wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:53 Plansix wrote:
On August 15 2013 02:49 renaissanceMAN wrote:
This JimmiC kid getting destroyed by tb.

Its fun to watch. I like his excuses of “OMG TB your such a passive aggressive(TB is mostly aggressive) drama queen. You should EXPECT me to jump on the hate train when you make an announcement I don’t like. This is the internet and hating on people is what we do. I man, seriously, why would you disrespect your fans(the fans are watching TB rip him apart and feel totally respected) by posting this crap. Your so fake famous.”

Its pretty funny, though I bet the guy doesn’t even know its funny.

These posts are the worst I've read so far and that says a lot. How old are you, 12?
Don't get me wrong; I'm not agreeing with JimmiC but what exactly is the purpose of these 2 posts?


I am 33 and enjoy watching people who have no idea what they are talking about get upset about things they don't understand and then getting yelled at for it.

Its the simple things in life. I also like going for walks and watching puppies fight over chew toys.

Also:

Enjoying the show while eating popcorn was what I was doing. You 2 are actively ostracizing someone who has an argument with someone else by participating in the internet version of talking about him behind his back just loud enough so that he can hear it. That's not quite the same and frankly, it's pretty pathetic. I also didn't really see him being "destroyed" by TB btw.
Anyway; Sucks that Axiom can't attend the conclusion of the ATC.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 22:35:33
August 14 2013 22:35 GMT
#235
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 22:38:26
August 14 2013 22:36 GMT
#236
On August 15 2013 06:16 JimmiC wrote:

You were actaully horribly mistaken that people would jump on your lets make MVP the bad guys thing. For some unknown reason you brought them into this discussion. And you continue to be negative about it calling it "the begging bowl" I'm sure a man with your integrity would never ask his fans for cash, it's compely different that you offer a 4.99$ subsciption on your twitch channel. Or because you provide such a valuable sevice you are allowed to ask for money but not them. No hypocracy there. It's really lucky that you have so many fans that seem to only read one post of yours at a time. Or just enjoy that u stir the pot. Because you sure are full of bs.


Lovely attempt to twist my words there to claim I insulted MVP. That's exactly what MVP did, begged for money. They asked the community to fund their trip, despite the fact that they have more sponsor funding than Axiom does and don't salary all of their players. We assumed that a team of our standing would be torn to bits by the community for asking for money, but apparently it's ok for MVP to do so. I'm sorry if you feel that the term "begging" is insulting, maybe I should have used "fundraising" so as not to offend your fragile sensibilities.

I tend to find that people that can't even spell hypocrisy shouldn't be accusing people of it. You seriously think "please pay for our trip to ATC" and "There's an optional $4.99 subscription on the Twitch channel which gives various benefits in return" is somehow the same thing. Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are olympic standard.

I really hope you keep posting. You're the gift that keeps on giving, admittedly I do feel a little bad beating on someone who lost 8 pages ago but refuses to call GG.

How did he make his own money? How did he obtain so many followers. Much of it is because of e-sports, if not al


Alright you've just proven you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Stick a fork in him folks, this guys done.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Erraa93
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia891 Posts
August 14 2013 22:44 GMT
#237
On August 15 2013 07:36 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are olympic standard.

Quote of the year.

Who's got the popcorn. Pass me some
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 14 2013 22:47 GMT
#238
Haha, that's a good line actually. But the more he responds, the more people fish hoping to reel in a big Totalbiscuit bass.

Then again, I'm just echoing what he already knows.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 14 2013 22:48 GMT
#239
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nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
August 14 2013 22:48 GMT
#240
On August 15 2013 07:36 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Do you need a pole? I ask because your logical leaps are becoming logical vaults and your mental gymnastics are olympic standard.


God damn TB that was brutal haha GG WP
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