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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 12:44:15
August 08 2013 12:42 GMT
#181
On August 08 2013 21:40 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:18 blamekilly wrote:
IM aren't as good as they used to be. Did LG want to jump ship and sponsor a different team?


Have you been watching sc2 at all in 2013?

First won IEM Katowice

The IEM World Championship had 4/4 IM players in the semis

MVP won WCS EU, Losira made the ro8 in WCS KR. MVP barely lost to Bogus at the WCS Season Finals

All of their players minus Fenix and Ragnarok are at least in WCS challenger

First stomped his way to the ro8 in the recent OSL and qualified for a 5th place spot in the seasonal final

Finally, they won the gstl recently.



this! LGIM is definitely strong as fack.


I forgot Nestea getting 3rd at Iron Squid II as well.

They're already having a better year than 2012 imo. Only WJS and STX have a reasonable claim to be in contention with them as team of the year so far.

Not to mention their past resume, and they still have to put up with crap like this :/. If IM can't make it, things look bleak for eSF.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 12:46:21
August 08 2013 12:43 GMT
#182
On August 08 2013 21:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:18 blamekilly wrote:
IM aren't as good as they used to be. Did LG want to jump ship and sponsor a different team?


Have you been watching sc2 at all in 2013?

First won IEM Katowice

The IEM World Championship had 4/4 IM players in the semis

MVP won WCS EU, Losira made the ro8 in WCS KR. MVP barely lost to Bogus at the WCS Season Finals in the semis

All of their players minus Fenix and Ragnarok are at least in WCS challenger

First stomped his way to the ro8 in the recent OSL and qualified for a 5th place spot in the seasonal final

Finally, they won the gstl recently.


Not that I don't agree that they're still doing well, but this isn't as good as winning 5 GSL titles and a GSTL in 2011... Plus however many foreign titles they won in 2011, I know Mvp won a MLG but not sure about any others.

Not to mention two GSL runner-ups as well...
EnPo
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland411 Posts
August 08 2013 12:45 GMT
#183
Big respect to KeSPA for doing that! Seems like that KeSPA and Esf are getting more together.
"Enpo has good builds and is good at executing those" -Serral 2018
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 08 2013 12:46 GMT
#184
On August 08 2013 21:43 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:18 blamekilly wrote:
IM aren't as good as they used to be. Did LG want to jump ship and sponsor a different team?


Have you been watching sc2 at all in 2013?

First won IEM Katowice

The IEM World Championship had 4/4 IM players in the semis

MVP won WCS EU, Losira made the ro8 in WCS KR. MVP barely lost to Bogus at the WCS Season Finals in the semis

All of their players minus Fenix and Ragnarok are at least in WCS challenger

First stomped his way to the ro8 in the recent OSL and qualified for a 5th place spot in the seasonal final

Finally, they won the gstl recently.


Not that I don't agree that they're still doing well, but this isn't as good as winning 6 GSL titles and a GSTL in 2011... Plus however many foreign titles they won in 2011, I know Mvp won a MLG but not sure about any others.


That was mostly MVP and Nestea's doing though. IM has developed a lot more depth since then, not to mention the level of competition skyrocketing with 7 Kespa teams joining in and there being less GSLs each year. I'd say they're still holding strong considering those factors.
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Diogenes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States132 Posts
August 08 2013 12:49 GMT
#185
On August 08 2013 21:45 EnPo wrote:
Big respect to KeSPA for doing that! Seems like that KeSPA and Esf are getting more together.


Well if EGTL is actually leaving Proleague, that's a pretty big hole in their rolster. With the future of the GSTL shaky because of the breakup of NSH and some shaky participation by some teams like Azubu; it makes more sense that they merge.

All these federations exist only if there is a market for their product which is good games and in Korea SC2 is relegated to a distant 3rd to LOL and Dota II. The heady days of BW dominating esports is over and it's a big period of adaptation right now.
"When Godzilla attacks, he advances rather than retreats. We can use this to our advantage."
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
August 08 2013 12:53 GMT
#186
What the f*ck? How can a massive corporation like LG do this??? I'm glad Kespa is helping out in this situation, this is downright exploitation... I really loved LG as a sponsor for IM, I hope the fix this and continue to sponsor IM, otherwise I'm seriously boycotting LG products for the next decade.
kahuynon712
Profile Joined June 2011
66 Posts
August 08 2013 12:54 GMT
#187
Maybe LG wants to sponsor Prime now. Because Maru is the future of SC2. Joke!
Everything will be OK in the end, if its not OK, then its not yet the end.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 08 2013 12:55 GMT
#188
Kinda sucks for IM, bad form from LG to say the least.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 08 2013 13:02 GMT
#189
Most of all it just seems really stupid from IM, really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 13:05:02
August 08 2013 13:04 GMT
#190
On August 08 2013 21:21 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:11 Markwerf wrote:
The way I read it I don't see why this is LG's fault per se. Of course I have no further knowledge but as it is said here it just reads like IM continued without having a proper contract and wore the LG name without proper consent and now they just don't have a viable claim. Seems to me these pro teams often just have lousy management when it comes to finances, contracts, attracting new sponsors on time etc.
I wouldn't even know why sponsors at all would be eager to sponsor pro teams when there is such a chance of backlash and the community can be so damn immature.



Well said, but I believe LG didn't tell IM on time that they won't sponsor anymore, they drag out the decision for several months after the deadline. And still feels like there is no legal action which can be done against LG, IM can only get some compensation due to media pressure on LG.

These two posts illustrate my thoughts. Sounds like LG say maybe then said no later on. Good on Kespa's part to get involved although it does seem odd since IM is an ESF team.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 08 2013 13:05 GMT
#191
On August 08 2013 22:04 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:21 edgeOut wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:11 Markwerf wrote:
The way I read it I don't see why this is LG's fault per se. Of course I have no further knowledge but as it is said here it just reads like IM continued without having a proper contract and wore the LG name without proper consent and now they just don't have a viable claim. Seems to me these pro teams often just have lousy management when it comes to finances, contracts, attracting new sponsors on time etc.
I wouldn't even know why sponsors at all would be eager to sponsor pro teams when there is such a chance of backlash and the community can be so damn immature.



Well said, but I believe LG didn't tell IM on time that they won't sponsor anymore, they drag out the decision for several months after the deadline. And still feels like there is no legal action which can be done against LG, IM can only get some compensation due to media pressure on LG.

These two posts illustrate my thoughts. Sounds like LG say maybe then said no later on. Good on Kespa's part to get involved although it does seem odd since IM is an ESF team.


Then as soon as you stop getting paid, remove the name. It's really simple.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
August 08 2013 13:06 GMT
#192
On August 08 2013 21:49 Diogenes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:45 EnPo wrote:
Big respect to KeSPA for doing that! Seems like that KeSPA and Esf are getting more together.


Well if EGTL is actually leaving Proleague, that's a pretty big hole in their rolster. With the future of the GSTL shaky because of the breakup of NSH and some shaky participation by some teams like Azubu; it makes more sense that they merge.

All these federations exist only if there is a market for their product which is good games and in Korea SC2 is relegated to a distant 3rd to LOL and Dota II. The heady days of BW dominating esports is over and it's a big period of adaptation right now.


3rd? I highly doubt that. Dota 2 isn't even broadcasted on TV and barely has any big Korean teams in it. In Korea I'm pretty sure SC2 is bigger.
Raygun
Profile Joined August 2010
348 Posts
August 08 2013 13:12 GMT
#193
On August 08 2013 22:02 marvellosity wrote:
Most of all it just seems really stupid from IM, really.


Yeah, it seems odd that IM would be turning down offers when they never had an actual contract with LG again. It's fucked that LG was still using them for commercials and stuff, but some of the negligence is on the IM side.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 13:13:31
August 08 2013 13:12 GMT
#194
On August 08 2013 21:43 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:18 blamekilly wrote:
IM aren't as good as they used to be. Did LG want to jump ship and sponsor a different team?


Have you been watching sc2 at all in 2013?

First won IEM Katowice

The IEM World Championship had 4/4 IM players in the semis

MVP won WCS EU, Losira made the ro8 in WCS KR. MVP barely lost to Bogus at the WCS Season Finals in the semis

All of their players minus Fenix and Ragnarok are at least in WCS challenger

First stomped his way to the ro8 in the recent OSL and qualified for a 5th place spot in the seasonal final

Finally, they won the gstl recently.


Not that I don't agree that they're still doing well, but this isn't as good as winning 5 GSL titles and a GSTL in 2011... Plus however many foreign titles they won in 2011, I know Mvp won a MLG but not sure about any others.

Not to mention two GSL runner-ups as well...


Not that it isnt a great achievement what happened in 2011, but there were TEN GSL's in 2011, and thats including the Blizzard Cup.

There will likely be 4 this year, and there was 5 last year.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
August 08 2013 13:13 GMT
#195
On August 08 2013 22:06 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 21:49 Diogenes wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:45 EnPo wrote:
Big respect to KeSPA for doing that! Seems like that KeSPA and Esf are getting more together.


Well if EGTL is actually leaving Proleague, that's a pretty big hole in their rolster. With the future of the GSTL shaky because of the breakup of NSH and some shaky participation by some teams like Azubu; it makes more sense that they merge.

All these federations exist only if there is a market for their product which is good games and in Korea SC2 is relegated to a distant 3rd to LOL and Dota II. The heady days of BW dominating esports is over and it's a big period of adaptation right now.


3rd? I highly doubt that. Dota 2 isn't even broadcasted on TV and barely has any big Korean teams in it. In Korea I'm pretty sure SC2 is bigger.

It'd be funny if SOSPA would become more popular than Proleague, though
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
August 08 2013 13:13 GMT
#196
Well, fuck you LG. You lost my business
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 08 2013 13:21 GMT
#197
I should have bought a Samsung TV instead of a LG one...

Poor behaviour by LG.
Flash | Mvp
Cracy
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland221 Posts
August 08 2013 13:23 GMT
#198
I love how people jump to conclusion. Not.
Some of you behave as you have never seen real life.

We have not enough data...
Oderint dum probent
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
August 08 2013 13:24 GMT
#199
On August 08 2013 22:13 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:06 UmberBane wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:49 Diogenes wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:45 EnPo wrote:
Big respect to KeSPA for doing that! Seems like that KeSPA and Esf are getting more together.


Well if EGTL is actually leaving Proleague, that's a pretty big hole in their rolster. With the future of the GSTL shaky because of the breakup of NSH and some shaky participation by some teams like Azubu; it makes more sense that they merge.

All these federations exist only if there is a market for their product which is good games and in Korea SC2 is relegated to a distant 3rd to LOL and Dota II. The heady days of BW dominating esports is over and it's a big period of adaptation right now.


3rd? I highly doubt that. Dota 2 isn't even broadcasted on TV and barely has any big Korean teams in it. In Korea I'm pretty sure SC2 is bigger.

It'd be funny if SOSPA would become more popular than Proleague, though


And KeSPA switches back to BW then? :D
BabyMozart
Profile Joined January 2013
54 Posts
August 08 2013 13:30 GMT
#200
What the f*ck? How can a massive corporation like LG do this??? I'm glad Kespa is helping out in this situation, this is downright exploitation... I really loved LG as a sponsor for IM, I hope the fix this and continue to sponsor IM, otherwise I'm seriously boycotting LG products for the next decade.


This is what massive corporations do... especially with an e-sport team which means very little to them considering how big they are. Im really glad KESPA is helping out right now, lets see what this means to the future of the relationship between KESPA and ESF.
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