• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:41
CET 06:41
KST 14:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy6ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises0Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool42Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Soulkey's decision to leave C9 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ JaeDong's form before ASL [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group A ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread CaratFlair Diamond Engagement Rings – Elegant Fore European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2043 users

Dreamhack Open Moscow in October 2014 - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
August 07 2013 16:23 GMT
#41
On August 08 2013 01:21 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:18 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:12 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:09 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:07 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:02 Iyerbeth wrote:
I'm not willing to just cross any line for esports, so I won't be watching unless they change that law by then. Got some time at least, hopefully this can just end up as a cool event for Russia.

With what law you have problems?


The 'gay propaganda' one. Seems only fair that if I encourage the boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics I should give this a miss too.


Lol get real... the only organization you're hurting is DreamHack


Do I think Russia will care? Nope. Do I think businesses might reconsider doing business in Russia if people then don't use the service, maybe. They might care about that. Even if nothing changes, I care more about my principles than how much I might 'hurt esports'.


Yeah fuck Russia! And fuck the poor SC2 fans who just wanted to have a big brand tournament like DreamHack run an open in their country! DreamHack shouldn't be doing business in a country where the corrupt government (that in no way, shape or form represents the opinion of the actual people) gets to pass bullshit laws!

really dude? really?


If it in no way represents the opinion on the people, which I hope is correct, it shouldn't be a problem repealing the law. And no, they shouldn't be doing business with them. It sucks for SC2 fans in Russia, but I think they can probably deal with not having a DreamHack easier than LGBT people can put up with the crap they're getting.


You're implying the people have any actual power over this, which they don't.

I see you're from the UK, so you're probably not familiar with how things work in good ol' ex-communist Eastern Europe.... How they work in PRACTICE, not in theory, that is.


That sounds like all the more reason to put pressure on the government by boycotting Russian events.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 07 2013 16:33 GMT
#42
On August 08 2013 01:23 Iyerbeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:21 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:18 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:12 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:09 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:07 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:02 Iyerbeth wrote:
I'm not willing to just cross any line for esports, so I won't be watching unless they change that law by then. Got some time at least, hopefully this can just end up as a cool event for Russia.

With what law you have problems?


The 'gay propaganda' one. Seems only fair that if I encourage the boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics I should give this a miss too.


Lol get real... the only organization you're hurting is DreamHack


Do I think Russia will care? Nope. Do I think businesses might reconsider doing business in Russia if people then don't use the service, maybe. They might care about that. Even if nothing changes, I care more about my principles than how much I might 'hurt esports'.


Yeah fuck Russia! And fuck the poor SC2 fans who just wanted to have a big brand tournament like DreamHack run an open in their country! DreamHack shouldn't be doing business in a country where the corrupt government (that in no way, shape or form represents the opinion of the actual people) gets to pass bullshit laws!

really dude? really?


If it in no way represents the opinion on the people, which I hope is correct, it shouldn't be a problem repealing the law. And no, they shouldn't be doing business with them. It sucks for SC2 fans in Russia, but I think they can probably deal with not having a DreamHack easier than LGBT people can put up with the crap they're getting.


You're implying the people have any actual power over this, which they don't.

I see you're from the UK, so you're probably not familiar with how things work in good ol' ex-communist Eastern Europe.... How they work in PRACTICE, not in theory, that is.


That sounds like all the more reason to put pressure on the government by boycotting Russian events.

Since this thread is already derailed with all this anti-propaganda law bs, i will just say this: Russian government just does not care about Russian events. Heck, i would bet that they used winter olympics as good cover to get some more money on bank account.
On topic: i hope DreamHack shall work, should it actually get there. GL!
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 16:37:16
August 07 2013 16:36 GMT
#43
On August 08 2013 01:23 Iyerbeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:21 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:18 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:12 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:09 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:07 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:02 Iyerbeth wrote:
I'm not willing to just cross any line for esports, so I won't be watching unless they change that law by then. Got some time at least, hopefully this can just end up as a cool event for Russia.

With what law you have problems?


The 'gay propaganda' one. Seems only fair that if I encourage the boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics I should give this a miss too.


Lol get real... the only organization you're hurting is DreamHack


Do I think Russia will care? Nope. Do I think businesses might reconsider doing business in Russia if people then don't use the service, maybe. They might care about that. Even if nothing changes, I care more about my principles than how much I might 'hurt esports'.


Yeah fuck Russia! And fuck the poor SC2 fans who just wanted to have a big brand tournament like DreamHack run an open in their country! DreamHack shouldn't be doing business in a country where the corrupt government (that in no way, shape or form represents the opinion of the actual people) gets to pass bullshit laws!

really dude? really?


If it in no way represents the opinion on the people, which I hope is correct, it shouldn't be a problem repealing the law. And no, they shouldn't be doing business with them. It sucks for SC2 fans in Russia, but I think they can probably deal with not having a DreamHack easier than LGBT people can put up with the crap they're getting.


You're implying the people have any actual power over this, which they don't.

I see you're from the UK, so you're probably not familiar with how things work in good ol' ex-communist Eastern Europe.... How they work in PRACTICE, not in theory, that is.


That sounds like all the more reason to put pressure on the government by boycotting Russian events.


Alright. I've tried to help you make an educated and informed decision. If you don't wish to, that's fine as well. But I guarantee that your perspective on this entire issue is far from realistic and won't get anything done.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
August 07 2013 16:37 GMT
#44
Seems like an inauspicious time to announce this location, given Putin's absurd war on homosexuality. I won't be watching this one but I'll toast the winner with my American-made charcoal-filtered vodka.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 07 2013 16:41 GMT
#45
Not watching tournament will only hurt Dreamhack and SC2 scene. Nothing else.

Silly protests :D
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
yoigen
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 16:43:01
August 07 2013 16:42 GMT
#46
The more important question is: Will Starcraft make it into late 2014? I doubt it.
Today I didn't even have to use my AK, I gotta say it was a good day.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
August 07 2013 16:45 GMT
#47
On August 08 2013 01:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:10 StarDustNA wrote:
serious question: can scarlett get in trouble if she attends?

What this have to do with Scarlett?

Do people genuinely do not understand the connection here? I don't want to accuse others of trolling, but.. well, I don't know how to finish that sentence.
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
August 07 2013 16:48 GMT
#48
I will watch twice as hard for all the people not watching.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 07 2013 16:49 GMT
#49
On August 08 2013 01:45 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:10 StarDustNA wrote:
serious question: can scarlett get in trouble if she attends?

What this have to do with Scarlett?

Do people genuinely do not understand the connection here? I don't want to accuse others of trolling, but.. well, I don't know how to finish that sentence.

Since when Scarlett agitates other people go homo? IIRC she never did, so this law has absolutely nothing to do with her. Seriously, i do not understand what this law has to do with Scarlett
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 07 2013 16:50 GMT
#50
On August 08 2013 01:45 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:10 StarDustNA wrote:
serious question: can scarlett get in trouble if she attends?

What this have to do with Scarlett?

Do people genuinely do not understand the connection here? I don't want to accuse others of trolling, but.. well, I don't know how to finish that sentence.

I still don't know what I should know about her.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
August 07 2013 16:51 GMT
#51
On August 08 2013 01:49 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:45 Conti wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:10 StarDustNA wrote:
serious question: can scarlett get in trouble if she attends?

What this have to do with Scarlett?

Do people genuinely do not understand the connection here? I don't want to accuse others of trolling, but.. well, I don't know how to finish that sentence.

Since when Scarlett agitates other people go homo? IIRC she never did, so this law has absolutely nothing to do with her. Seriously, i do not understand what this law has to do with Scarlett

..because you don't have to be afraid of anything in Russia if you're openly LGBT, right?
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
August 07 2013 16:51 GMT
#52
In before Bratok somehow gets screwed by visa issues. Don't know how, but it will happen
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
August 07 2013 16:58 GMT
#53
On August 08 2013 01:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:23 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:21 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:18 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:12 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:09 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:07 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:02 Iyerbeth wrote:
I'm not willing to just cross any line for esports, so I won't be watching unless they change that law by then. Got some time at least, hopefully this can just end up as a cool event for Russia.

With what law you have problems?


The 'gay propaganda' one. Seems only fair that if I encourage the boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics I should give this a miss too.


Lol get real... the only organization you're hurting is DreamHack


Do I think Russia will care? Nope. Do I think businesses might reconsider doing business in Russia if people then don't use the service, maybe. They might care about that. Even if nothing changes, I care more about my principles than how much I might 'hurt esports'.


Yeah fuck Russia! And fuck the poor SC2 fans who just wanted to have a big brand tournament like DreamHack run an open in their country! DreamHack shouldn't be doing business in a country where the corrupt government (that in no way, shape or form represents the opinion of the actual people) gets to pass bullshit laws!

really dude? really?


If it in no way represents the opinion on the people, which I hope is correct, it shouldn't be a problem repealing the law. And no, they shouldn't be doing business with them. It sucks for SC2 fans in Russia, but I think they can probably deal with not having a DreamHack easier than LGBT people can put up with the crap they're getting.


You're implying the people have any actual power over this, which they don't.

I see you're from the UK, so you're probably not familiar with how things work in good ol' ex-communist Eastern Europe.... How they work in PRACTICE, not in theory, that is.


That sounds like all the more reason to put pressure on the government by boycotting Russian events.


Alright. I've tried to help you make an educated and informed decision. If you don't wish to, that's fine as well. But I guarantee that your perspective on this entire issue is far from realistic and won't get anything done.


Please don't pretend that your opinion is the only 'educated and informed' one. There are boycotts of vodka and attempts at boycotts or removal of the winter olympics because external pressure does work. Your position seems to be the Russian people don't like the law, but can't do anything about it and so we should just ignore it? If so, I disagree.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
August 07 2013 17:05 GMT
#54
On August 08 2013 01:58 Iyerbeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:23 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:21 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:18 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:12 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:09 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:07 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
[quote]
With what law you have problems?


The 'gay propaganda' one. Seems only fair that if I encourage the boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics I should give this a miss too.


Lol get real... the only organization you're hurting is DreamHack


Do I think Russia will care? Nope. Do I think businesses might reconsider doing business in Russia if people then don't use the service, maybe. They might care about that. Even if nothing changes, I care more about my principles than how much I might 'hurt esports'.


Yeah fuck Russia! And fuck the poor SC2 fans who just wanted to have a big brand tournament like DreamHack run an open in their country! DreamHack shouldn't be doing business in a country where the corrupt government (that in no way, shape or form represents the opinion of the actual people) gets to pass bullshit laws!

really dude? really?


If it in no way represents the opinion on the people, which I hope is correct, it shouldn't be a problem repealing the law. And no, they shouldn't be doing business with them. It sucks for SC2 fans in Russia, but I think they can probably deal with not having a DreamHack easier than LGBT people can put up with the crap they're getting.


You're implying the people have any actual power over this, which they don't.

I see you're from the UK, so you're probably not familiar with how things work in good ol' ex-communist Eastern Europe.... How they work in PRACTICE, not in theory, that is.


That sounds like all the more reason to put pressure on the government by boycotting Russian events.


Alright. I've tried to help you make an educated and informed decision. If you don't wish to, that's fine as well. But I guarantee that your perspective on this entire issue is far from realistic and won't get anything done.


Please don't pretend that your opinion is the only 'educated and informed' one. There are boycotts of vodka and attempts at boycotts or removal of the winter olympics because external pressure does work. Your position seems to be the Russian people don't like the law, but can't do anything about it and so we should just ignore it? If so, I disagree.

As far as I know Dreamhack aren't the ones enforcing the anti-gay law but whatever. If u think the russian government will care if people boycott DH I dont know what you think.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
August 07 2013 17:06 GMT
#55
On August 08 2013 02:05 Pjorren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:58 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:23 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:21 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:18 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:12 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:09 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:07 Iyerbeth wrote:
[quote]

The 'gay propaganda' one. Seems only fair that if I encourage the boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics I should give this a miss too.


Lol get real... the only organization you're hurting is DreamHack


Do I think Russia will care? Nope. Do I think businesses might reconsider doing business in Russia if people then don't use the service, maybe. They might care about that. Even if nothing changes, I care more about my principles than how much I might 'hurt esports'.


Yeah fuck Russia! And fuck the poor SC2 fans who just wanted to have a big brand tournament like DreamHack run an open in their country! DreamHack shouldn't be doing business in a country where the corrupt government (that in no way, shape or form represents the opinion of the actual people) gets to pass bullshit laws!

really dude? really?


If it in no way represents the opinion on the people, which I hope is correct, it shouldn't be a problem repealing the law. And no, they shouldn't be doing business with them. It sucks for SC2 fans in Russia, but I think they can probably deal with not having a DreamHack easier than LGBT people can put up with the crap they're getting.


You're implying the people have any actual power over this, which they don't.

I see you're from the UK, so you're probably not familiar with how things work in good ol' ex-communist Eastern Europe.... How they work in PRACTICE, not in theory, that is.


That sounds like all the more reason to put pressure on the government by boycotting Russian events.


Alright. I've tried to help you make an educated and informed decision. If you don't wish to, that's fine as well. But I guarantee that your perspective on this entire issue is far from realistic and won't get anything done.


Please don't pretend that your opinion is the only 'educated and informed' one. There are boycotts of vodka and attempts at boycotts or removal of the winter olympics because external pressure does work. Your position seems to be the Russian people don't like the law, but can't do anything about it and so we should just ignore it? If so, I disagree.

As far as I know Dreamhack aren't the ones enforcing the anti-gay law but whatever. If u think the russian government will care if people boycott DH I dont know what you think.


I've already addressed that, I don't think they will care.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
arterian
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1157 Posts
August 07 2013 17:07 GMT
#56
On August 08 2013 02:05 Pjorren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:58 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:23 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:21 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:18 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:12 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:09 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:07 Iyerbeth wrote:
[quote]

The 'gay propaganda' one. Seems only fair that if I encourage the boycott of the 2014 Winter Olympics I should give this a miss too.


Lol get real... the only organization you're hurting is DreamHack


Do I think Russia will care? Nope. Do I think businesses might reconsider doing business in Russia if people then don't use the service, maybe. They might care about that. Even if nothing changes, I care more about my principles than how much I might 'hurt esports'.


Yeah fuck Russia! And fuck the poor SC2 fans who just wanted to have a big brand tournament like DreamHack run an open in their country! DreamHack shouldn't be doing business in a country where the corrupt government (that in no way, shape or form represents the opinion of the actual people) gets to pass bullshit laws!

really dude? really?


If it in no way represents the opinion on the people, which I hope is correct, it shouldn't be a problem repealing the law. And no, they shouldn't be doing business with them. It sucks for SC2 fans in Russia, but I think they can probably deal with not having a DreamHack easier than LGBT people can put up with the crap they're getting.


You're implying the people have any actual power over this, which they don't.

I see you're from the UK, so you're probably not familiar with how things work in good ol' ex-communist Eastern Europe.... How they work in PRACTICE, not in theory, that is.


That sounds like all the more reason to put pressure on the government by boycotting Russian events.


Alright. I've tried to help you make an educated and informed decision. If you don't wish to, that's fine as well. But I guarantee that your perspective on this entire issue is far from realistic and won't get anything done.


Please don't pretend that your opinion is the only 'educated and informed' one. There are boycotts of vodka and attempts at boycotts or removal of the winter olympics because external pressure does work. Your position seems to be the Russian people don't like the law, but can't do anything about it and so we should just ignore it? If so, I disagree.

As far as I know Dreamhack aren't the ones enforcing the anti-gay law but whatever. If u think the russian government will care if people boycott DH I dont know what you think.


I normally don't believe that boycotts really do shit, but in this case, I think everything adds up. Olympics, Vodka, Dreamhack, etc, etc, etc.
http://www.twitch.tv/arterian
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 07 2013 17:10 GMT
#57
This thread make me think and I should probably boycott MLG because of the USA government. I guess WCS AM is a nono too then. Wait Blizzard is an American company. Fuck.
DH Moscow sounds cool and I bet that the crowd will be loud and cheerful. Perhaps even top the Polish one. ^^
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
August 07 2013 17:12 GMT
#58
On August 08 2013 00:57 phipsL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 00:32 Mauldo wrote:
On August 08 2013 00:06 arterian wrote:
I guess we can rule out Scarlett attending.


Quoted for truth. I'm not going to watch a tourney that takes place in a country where players are precluded by law in such a vile way.

I guess kudos on the planning it took, but Russia's been mulling the anti-LGBT "propaganda" law for a while now. You consciously decided to not give a shit when you planned the thing, so I consciously decided not to watch.


what does that have to do with scarlett?


I'm just going to assume that's an honest question.

I'm linking directly to Stephen Fry's open letter concerning the Winter Olympics in Russia, and the anti-LGBT propaganda law: Found Here.

In it, he explains that we should not as a world community show Russia that we support them enough to hold something as world-defining as the Winter Olympic games in their country after they have shown such blatant disregard for the LGBT community. Such a vile, direct attack against a group of people should not be support by the IOC, or the world at large. As Stephen Fry says:

Putin is eerily repeating [Hitler's crimes/attitudes/blatant scapegoating with Jews], only this time against LGBT Russians. Beatings, murders and humiliations are ignored by the police. Any defence or sane discussion of homosexuality is against the law. Any statement, for example, that Tchaikovsky was gay and that his art and life reflects this sexuality and are an inspiration to other gay artists would be punishable by imprisonment. It is simply not enough to say that gay Olympians may or may not be safe in their village. The IOC absolutely must take a firm stance on behalf of the shared humanity it is supposed to represent against the barbaric, fascist law that Putin has pushed through the Duma. Let us not forget that Olympic events used not only to be athletic, they used to include cultural competitions. Let us realise that in fact, sport is cultural. It does not exist in a bubble outside society or politics. The idea that sport and politics don’t connect is worse than disingenuous, worse than stupid. It is wickedly, wilfully wrong. Everyone knows politics interconnects with everything for “politics” is simply the Greek for “to do with the people”.


That is why Scarlett probably couldn't go to Dreamhack. She is an open transgender, and any open defense of her lifestyle is AGAINST THE LAW.

We shouldn't show support to any company that would hold their tournament in a location so hostile to one of our own. I don't know if Scarlett was even going to attend, but who cares. The simple fact is that even if she wanted to, she shouldn't in concern for HER LIFE.

I refuse to take part in anything that comes from such a blatant attempt to scapegoat, marginalize, and criminalize a community.



TheGoldenWitch
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation12 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 17:16:54
August 07 2013 17:13 GMT
#59
Great news.

On August 08 2013 01:10 StarDustNA wrote:
serious question: can scarlett get in trouble if she attends?

No she can't. Being a gay or transgender ain't forbidden, propaganda is. We're just trying to protect our children. They should choose their fate for themselves when they grow up.

On August 08 2013 02:12 Mauldo wrote:

That is why Scarlett probably couldn't go to Dreamhack. She is an open transgender, and any open defense of her lifestyle is AGAINST THE LAW.

How dumb you are? You don't really know how this law works but you still talk.
Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
August 07 2013 17:13 GMT
#60
On August 08 2013 02:10 AlternativeEgo wrote:
This thread make me think and I should probably boycott MLG because of the USA government. I guess WCS AM is a nono too then. Wait Blizzard is an American company. Fuck.
DH Moscow sounds cool and I bet that the crowd will be loud and cheerful. Perhaps even top the Polish one. ^^

And fyi I will boycott Virtus Pro in TI3!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft341
Nina 167
ProTech30
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5390
Sea 4431
Snow 122
ggaemo 79
Bale 20
ZergMaN 16
Noble 14
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever949
febbydoto24
League of Legends
JimRising 761
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1794
Stewie2K753
m0e_tv13
Other Games
summit1g8375
C9.Mang0344
Trikslyr21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1015
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream91
Other Games
BasetradeTV61
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH112
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1250
• Lourlo1233
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 19m
Afreeca Starleague
4h 19m
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 4h
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
KCM Race Survival
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Platinum Heroes Events
4 days
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-23
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.