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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 23 2013 08:07 GMT
#121
On July 23 2013 17:04 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 16:32 Drake wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:15 Jedclark wrote:
Yaaaaaaay! Imagine they go to KESPA, so excited to see this all unveil.


i am 150% sure they will NOT go to kespa, but perhaps can play in league without being, no ESF team goes kespa ... why you want dictatorship ?

On July 23 2013 16:12 Fuell wrote:
:o this is big, I doubt they stand a chance in PL tho


what ? lgim is instant favorite and MVP has such a big rooster they are not a dwarf ... they top calibers and no underdogs oO

Instant favorites has allways failed in PL

The allstar KTF
Team 8
EGTL

And probally some more

team 8 and egtl favorites in pl?
what?
TL+ Member
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 08:10:44
July 23 2013 08:08 GMT
#122
Question : can't IM and MVP play both Proleague and GSTL ? It's not like they are owned by Kespa and they can just pay 100k deposit for PL if they want to play in it . Of course it could have a problem with sheduled matches and also , they'll have their players more occupied , but with more purpose behind their training their players will become eventually stronger .

On July 23 2013 17:07 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 17:04 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 23 2013 16:32 Drake wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:15 Jedclark wrote:
Yaaaaaaay! Imagine they go to KESPA, so excited to see this all unveil.


i am 150% sure they will NOT go to kespa, but perhaps can play in league without being, no ESF team goes kespa ... why you want dictatorship ?

On July 23 2013 16:12 Fuell wrote:
:o this is big, I doubt they stand a chance in PL tho


what ? lgim is instant favorite and MVP has such a big rooster they are not a dwarf ... they top calibers and no underdogs oO

Instant favorites has allways failed in PL

The allstar KTF
Team 8
EGTL

And probally some more

team 8 and egtl favorites in pl?
what?


He ment more hyped , not favorites . No one is a favorite unless statistics back them up .
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 08:10:01
July 23 2013 08:09 GMT
#123
IM could probably play two different rosters entirely
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
July 23 2013 08:11 GMT
#124
On July 23 2013 17:08 raga4ka wrote:
Question : can't IM and MVP play both Proleague and GSTL ? It's not like they are owned by Kespa and they can just pay 100k deposit for PL if they want to play in it . Of course it could have a problem with sheduled matches and also , they'll have their players more occupied , but with more purpose behind their training their players will become eventually stronger .

No team is going to commit to Proleague and then divide their attention between it and another team league.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 08:13:49
July 23 2013 08:12 GMT
#125
LG-IM is a juicy team for Kespa to include in the ProLeague.

Its like saying. You won GSTL, now join the BIG boys.

I think if Kespa would make it possible for a relegation system working in the PL we could have - Proleague (Premiership), GSTL (1st division). With last place in PL dropping down to GSTL and GSTL winner advancing to PL.

Would be sick.... But 0% chances of this ever happening. One can only dream.
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
July 23 2013 08:16 GMT
#126
On July 23 2013 17:12 Frankon wrote:
LG-IM is a juicy team for Kespa to include in the ProLeague.

Its like saying. You won GSTL, now join the BIG boys.

I think if Kespa would make it possible for a relegation system working in the PL we could have - Proleague (Premiership), GSTL (1st division). With last place in PL dropping down to GSTL and GSTL winner advancing to PL.

Would be sick.... But 0% chances of this ever happening. One can only dream.

gstl top4 to proleague
pl last 4 to gstl
should be awesome
Incredible Miracle
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 23 2013 08:16 GMT
#127
On July 23 2013 17:07 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 17:04 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 23 2013 16:32 Drake wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:15 Jedclark wrote:
Yaaaaaaay! Imagine they go to KESPA, so excited to see this all unveil.


i am 150% sure they will NOT go to kespa, but perhaps can play in league without being, no ESF team goes kespa ... why you want dictatorship ?

On July 23 2013 16:12 Fuell wrote:
:o this is big, I doubt they stand a chance in PL tho


what ? lgim is instant favorite and MVP has such a big rooster they are not a dwarf ... they top calibers and no underdogs oO

Instant favorites has allways failed in PL

The allstar KTF
Team 8
EGTL

And probally some more

team 8 and egtl favorites in pl?
what?

There was a time when KTF literally bought all the top players for their team. They set the record for the longest number of consecutive wins in PL (22-0 i think?) and they still lost the final to SKT haha.

Team 8 upon creation were expected to be huge. It was the union of three teams (MBC, Hwaesung and WeMade) and it was expected that all the aces would carry over into this new team and crush everything, or at least do well. Evidently, not the case.

EGTL same story. Expected to be huge because of all the big names on the team, ended up disappointing.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
July 23 2013 08:17 GMT
#128
On July 23 2013 17:08 raga4ka wrote:
Question : can't IM and MVP play both Proleague and GSTL ? It's not like they are owned by Kespa and they can just pay 100k deposit for PL if they want to play in it . Of course it could have a problem with sheduled matches and also , they'll have their players more occupied , but with more purpose behind their training their players will become eventually stronger .

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 17:07 Paljas wrote:
On July 23 2013 17:04 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 23 2013 16:32 Drake wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:15 Jedclark wrote:
Yaaaaaaay! Imagine they go to KESPA, so excited to see this all unveil.


i am 150% sure they will NOT go to kespa, but perhaps can play in league without being, no ESF team goes kespa ... why you want dictatorship ?

On July 23 2013 16:12 Fuell wrote:
:o this is big, I doubt they stand a chance in PL tho


what ? lgim is instant favorite and MVP has such a big rooster they are not a dwarf ... they top calibers and no underdogs oO

Instant favorites has allways failed in PL

The allstar KTF
Team 8
EGTL

And probally some more

team 8 and egtl favorites in pl?
what?


He ment more hyped , not favorites . No one is a favorite unless statistics back them up .



As many people already said: you cannot half-ass proleague. it's serious business and you have to commit fully to get anywhere!
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
July 23 2013 08:23 GMT
#129
On July 23 2013 17:16 winthrop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 17:12 Frankon wrote:
LG-IM is a juicy team for Kespa to include in the ProLeague.

Its like saying. You won GSTL, now join the BIG boys.

I think if Kespa would make it possible for a relegation system working in the PL we could have - Proleague (Premiership), GSTL (1st division). With last place in PL dropping down to GSTL and GSTL winner advancing to PL.

Would be sick.... But 0% chances of this ever happening. One can only dream.

gstl top4 to proleague
pl last 4 to gstl
should be awesome

I like this, it's like we have a premier and challenger league for team league. With some collab between the two. Obviously GOMtv wouldn't like themselves being the lower league but still, would be fun
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
July 23 2013 08:25 GMT
#130
Makes sense...
It's kinda 90% confirmed no EGTL next season in SPL, or why would they get rid of their coach or "let him go". Money isn't an option for the two power houses that are TL and EG, so it clearly was just a one off adventure. With the more likely news that Jaedong won't be renewing his contract and going back to Team8 later this year, they will just be left with their regular members. KESPA looking good for once now Team8 has a sponsorship deal just leaves STX as the only team in trouble financially? The rest seem safe. Add into that 2 new teams LGIM and MVP and you have a great SPL.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 23 2013 19:35 GMT
#131
On July 23 2013 17:23 TAMinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 17:16 winthrop wrote:
On July 23 2013 17:12 Frankon wrote:
LG-IM is a juicy team for Kespa to include in the ProLeague.

Its like saying. You won GSTL, now join the BIG boys.

I think if Kespa would make it possible for a relegation system working in the PL we could have - Proleague (Premiership), GSTL (1st division). With last place in PL dropping down to GSTL and GSTL winner advancing to PL.

Would be sick.... But 0% chances of this ever happening. One can only dream.

gstl top4 to proleague
pl last 4 to gstl
should be awesome

I like this, it's like we have a premier and challenger league for team league. With some collab between the two. Obviously GOMtv wouldn't like themselves being the lower league but still, would be fun

Never going to happen.
OGN wants nothing to do with GomTV.
GomTV would not want to be treated as second-class product.

Right now if a PL is going to happen next season LG-IM and MVP to the PL is the only move that makes logical sense..Having a 7 team PL is setting up for disappointment.
iyasq8
Profile Joined December 2012
113 Posts
July 23 2013 19:43 GMT
#132
this wouldnt be fair, LGIM would win everything
Piece
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
July 23 2013 19:47 GMT
#133
On July 23 2013 17:07 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 17:04 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 23 2013 16:32 Drake wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:15 Jedclark wrote:
Yaaaaaaay! Imagine they go to KESPA, so excited to see this all unveil.


i am 150% sure they will NOT go to kespa, but perhaps can play in league without being, no ESF team goes kespa ... why you want dictatorship ?

On July 23 2013 16:12 Fuell wrote:
:o this is big, I doubt they stand a chance in PL tho


what ? lgim is instant favorite and MVP has such a big rooster they are not a dwarf ... they top calibers and no underdogs oO

Instant favorites has allways failed in PL

The allstar KTF
Team 8
EGTL

And probally some more

team 8 and egtl favorites in pl?
what?


Team 8 was popularly referred to as the "Dream Team" for at least a couple of months.

They had JD, Sea, Killer and Baby.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
July 23 2013 19:54 GMT
#134
by the way, was DRG always missing in the player roster on the MVP homepage?

http://www.sc2mvp.com/board/sc2player

Well Swagger and Dream are missing as well.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
July 23 2013 20:00 GMT
#135
On July 24 2013 04:47 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 17:07 Paljas wrote:
On July 23 2013 17:04 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 23 2013 16:32 Drake wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:15 Jedclark wrote:
Yaaaaaaay! Imagine they go to KESPA, so excited to see this all unveil.


i am 150% sure they will NOT go to kespa, but perhaps can play in league without being, no ESF team goes kespa ... why you want dictatorship ?

On July 23 2013 16:12 Fuell wrote:
:o this is big, I doubt they stand a chance in PL tho


what ? lgim is instant favorite and MVP has such a big rooster they are not a dwarf ... they top calibers and no underdogs oO

Instant favorites has allways failed in PL

The allstar KTF
Team 8
EGTL

And probally some more

team 8 and egtl favorites in pl?
what?


Team 8 was popularly referred to as the "Dream Team" for at least a couple of months.

They had JD, Sea, Killer and Baby.

And Tyson, never forget.
This is our town, scrub
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
July 23 2013 20:02 GMT
#136
On July 24 2013 04:35 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 17:23 TAMinator wrote:
On July 23 2013 17:16 winthrop wrote:
On July 23 2013 17:12 Frankon wrote:
LG-IM is a juicy team for Kespa to include in the ProLeague.

Its like saying. You won GSTL, now join the BIG boys.

I think if Kespa would make it possible for a relegation system working in the PL we could have - Proleague (Premiership), GSTL (1st division). With last place in PL dropping down to GSTL and GSTL winner advancing to PL.

Would be sick.... But 0% chances of this ever happening. One can only dream.

gstl top4 to proleague
pl last 4 to gstl
should be awesome

I like this, it's like we have a premier and challenger league for team league. With some collab between the two. Obviously GOMtv wouldn't like themselves being the lower league but still, would be fun

Never going to happen.
OGN wants nothing to do with GomTV.
GomTV would not want to be treated as second-class product.

Right now if a PL is going to happen next season LG-IM and MVP to the PL is the only move that makes logical sense..Having a 7 team PL is setting up for disappointment.

you really think MVP and IM will be leaving ESF behind?
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 23 2013 20:08 GMT
#137
On July 24 2013 05:02 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 04:35 LighT. wrote:
On July 23 2013 17:23 TAMinator wrote:
On July 23 2013 17:16 winthrop wrote:
On July 23 2013 17:12 Frankon wrote:
LG-IM is a juicy team for Kespa to include in the ProLeague.

Its like saying. You won GSTL, now join the BIG boys.

I think if Kespa would make it possible for a relegation system working in the PL we could have - Proleague (Premiership), GSTL (1st division). With last place in PL dropping down to GSTL and GSTL winner advancing to PL.

Would be sick.... But 0% chances of this ever happening. One can only dream.

gstl top4 to proleague
pl last 4 to gstl
should be awesome

I like this, it's like we have a premier and challenger league for team league. With some collab between the two. Obviously GOMtv wouldn't like themselves being the lower league but still, would be fun

Never going to happen.
OGN wants nothing to do with GomTV.
GomTV would not want to be treated as second-class product.

Right now if a PL is going to happen next season LG-IM and MVP to the PL is the only move that makes logical sense..Having a 7 team PL is setting up for disappointment.

you really think MVP and IM will be leaving ESF behind?

On what incentive does MVP and IM have to remain in eSF?
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
July 23 2013 20:09 GMT
#138
Oh snap that'd be awesome! I assume they'd be combined into one team so that theres still 8?
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 23 2013 20:18 GMT
#139
They would do well. Hope this is true!
I had a good night of sleep.
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
July 23 2013 20:22 GMT
#140
On July 23 2013 17:16 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 17:07 Paljas wrote:
On July 23 2013 17:04 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 23 2013 16:32 Drake wrote:
On July 23 2013 11:15 Jedclark wrote:
Yaaaaaaay! Imagine they go to KESPA, so excited to see this all unveil.


i am 150% sure they will NOT go to kespa, but perhaps can play in league without being, no ESF team goes kespa ... why you want dictatorship ?

On July 23 2013 16:12 Fuell wrote:
:o this is big, I doubt they stand a chance in PL tho


what ? lgim is instant favorite and MVP has such a big rooster they are not a dwarf ... they top calibers and no underdogs oO

Instant favorites has allways failed in PL

The allstar KTF
Team 8
EGTL

And probally some more

team 8 and egtl favorites in pl?
what?

There was a time when KTF literally bought all the top players for their team. They set the record for the longest number of consecutive wins in PL (22-0 i think?) and they still lost the final to SKT haha.

Team 8 upon creation were expected to be huge. It was the union of three teams (MBC, Hwaesung and WeMade) and it was expected that all the aces would carry over into this new team and crush everything, or at least do well. Evidently, not the case.

EGTL same story. Expected to be huge because of all the big names on the team, ended up disappointing.

EGTL wasn't really the same, though. Fanboys made them sound like favorites, but rational followers of the game expected them to get smacked around.
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