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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 23 2013 04:06 GMT
#81
On July 23 2013 13:02 juicyjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 13:02 Thrillz wrote:
At this point GSTL may just become the B league, and a farm for talents to join a bigger team.

May happen anyway once the eSF-KeSPA trade lock expires in October.

meh..the player pool for SC2 is too saturated at the moment anyway
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 23 2013 04:08 GMT
#82
On July 23 2013 12:58 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 12:51 LighT. wrote:
with LG joining in.
its a matter of time before the big business start joining for PL again for either LoL or SC2.
I hope Hwaseung and Hite are contemplating on joining esports.

As for GSTL:
Prime
FXO
Startale
Axiom-Acer
LG-IM - Rumored to go to KeSPA PL
MVP - Rumored to go to KeSPA PL
NsHoseo - Dead
Azubu - Team's longevity in question

Looks like trouble in paradise.


There's been rumor that Prime's the next to flop

oh really
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 23 2013 04:13 GMT
#83
On July 23 2013 13:02 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 12:58 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On July 23 2013 12:51 LighT. wrote:
with LG joining in.
its a matter of time before the big business start joining for PL again for either LoL or SC2.
I hope Hwaseung and Hite are contemplating on joining esports.

As for GSTL:
Prime
FXO
Startale
Axiom-Acer
LG-IM - Rumored to go to KeSPA PL
MVP - Rumored to go to KeSPA PL
NsHoseo - Dead
Azubu - Team's longevity in question

Looks like trouble in paradise.


There's been rumor that Prime's the next to flop

Keep in mind FXO and Axiom/Acer are not part of the eSF governing body.
the eSF governing body is: Prime, Startale, LG-IM, MVP, NsHoseo
This would effectively kill that governing body as all that would stand is Startale if Prime is the team to flop.
If Prime does indeed fall, that's a huge blow to the GSTL and likely discontinued for 2014, thus that would put OGN to create a monopolized market for SC2 like they've been subtly trying to establish and killing off their competition sharing WCS duties.

I have the popcorn ready, I'm interested in what's going to unfold.

Not like that eSF thingy has ever done anything except pulling serial scandals back then. The only useful function is its namesake that people use to distinguish their players with KeSPA's.
I wonder why that so-called federation hasnt gone kaputt already
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
July 23 2013 04:23 GMT
#84
On July 23 2013 13:13 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 13:02 LighT. wrote:
On July 23 2013 12:58 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On July 23 2013 12:51 LighT. wrote:
with LG joining in.
its a matter of time before the big business start joining for PL again for either LoL or SC2.
I hope Hwaseung and Hite are contemplating on joining esports.

As for GSTL:
Prime
FXO
Startale
Axiom-Acer
LG-IM - Rumored to go to KeSPA PL
MVP - Rumored to go to KeSPA PL
NsHoseo - Dead
Azubu - Team's longevity in question

Looks like trouble in paradise.


There's been rumor that Prime's the next to flop

Keep in mind FXO and Axiom/Acer are not part of the eSF governing body.
the eSF governing body is: Prime, Startale, LG-IM, MVP, NsHoseo
This would effectively kill that governing body as all that would stand is Startale if Prime is the team to flop.
If Prime does indeed fall, that's a huge blow to the GSTL and likely discontinued for 2014, thus that would put OGN to create a monopolized market for SC2 like they've been subtly trying to establish and killing off their competition sharing WCS duties.

I have the popcorn ready, I'm interested in what's going to unfold.

Not like that eSF thingy has ever done anything except pulling serial scandals back then. The only useful function is its namesake that people use to distinguish their players with KeSPA's.
I wonder why that so-called federation hasnt gone kaputt already

I thought eSF did a good job of countering KeSPA's embargo of GSL by threatening to embargo OSL as well. But that is the only notable thing I can think of besides maybe some backroom bureaucratic when organizing leagues and schedules.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 04:24:27
July 23 2013 04:23 GMT
#85
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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
July 23 2013 04:30 GMT
#86
Wonder what will happen with Najin...
Everyday Girl's Day~!
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
July 23 2013 04:32 GMT
#87
On July 23 2013 13:30 Kergy wrote:
Wonder what will happen with Najin...

Do you guys think that after all of the big eSF teams join KeSPA, that some of the LoL teams without SC2 divisions may buy out the remaining eSF teams and join KeSPA, too?
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 23 2013 04:34 GMT
#88
Esf isn't really much of a governing body similar to Kespa. It's just an association of teams looking after the interests of the players. Totally different and why I never understood "esf vs kespa" as oppose to "gstl teams vs proleague teams".
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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
July 23 2013 04:42 GMT
#89
On July 23 2013 13:32 juicyjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 13:30 Kergy wrote:
Wonder what will happen with Najin...

Do you guys think that after all of the big eSF teams join KeSPA, that some of the LoL teams without SC2 divisions may buy out the remaining eSF teams and join KeSPA, too?


Or maybe just play in the LoL PL but not in SC2? SF2 had some teams that did not have BW divisions iirc.
Really wish they find a way to work this out, Proleague would be incomplete without Najin
Everyday Girl's Day~!
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 23 2013 04:43 GMT
#90
On July 23 2013 13:32 juicyjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 13:30 Kergy wrote:
Wonder what will happen with Najin...

Do you guys think that after all of the big eSF teams join KeSPA, that some of the LoL teams without SC2 divisions may buy out the remaining eSF teams and join KeSPA, too?

Najin?
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P7GAB
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada486 Posts
July 23 2013 04:44 GMT
#91
I remember seeing somewhere that 2 more teams would join proleague but i think that was for lol
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
July 23 2013 04:50 GMT
#92
I prefer GSTL more than Proleague. There is something about all kills and the story line which makes it better imo.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 23 2013 04:51 GMT
#93
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Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
July 23 2013 05:13 GMT
#94
LGIM would have it easy in PvProleague. =))
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
July 23 2013 05:25 GMT
#95
On July 23 2013 14:13 Darkthorn wrote:
LGIM would have it easy in PvProleague. =))


Haha, so it was planned all along. Makes sense now.

Seriously though, the thought of Mvp preparing single games every week makes me all fuzzy.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
July 23 2013 05:50 GMT
#96
While that's great for proleague, I fear what that means for GSTL. I don't think they could play both teamleagues, so that'd mean GSTL is down to five teams: Prime (shaky at best right now btw), AxiomAcer, Startale, FXO, Azubu (who seem to be a sinking ship).

I'm really kind of worried about that
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
July 23 2013 05:57 GMT
#97
On July 23 2013 14:50 TheDougler wrote:
While that's great for proleague, I fear what that means for GSTL. I don't think they could play both teamleagues, so that'd mean GSTL is down to five teams: Prime (shaky at best right now btw), AxiomAcer, Startale, FXO, Azubu (who seem to be a sinking ship).

I'm really kind of worried about that


Good riddance. GSTL isn't that good. There are no storylines (someone getting an all-kill isn't a story, that is just a feat of strength), there is no reason to root for a team when they can rely on a single player to net them games, they don't use their top-tier casters which results in weaker numbers than Code S, and the prize pool has always been laughably small.

They'd be better off running tier1/2 WCS events than GSTL, it would probably net them better numbers and they can get big name players competing (Flash, Inno, Bomber, Rain, Soulkey, Sos) on a consistent basis.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 07:01:34
July 23 2013 06:36 GMT
#98
On July 23 2013 14:57 TeslasPigeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 14:50 TheDougler wrote:
While that's great for proleague, I fear what that means for GSTL. I don't think they could play both teamleagues, so that'd mean GSTL is down to five teams: Prime (shaky at best right now btw), AxiomAcer, Startale, FXO, Azubu (who seem to be a sinking ship).

I'm really kind of worried about that


Good riddance. GSTL isn't that good. There are no storylines (someone getting an all-kill isn't a story, that is just a feat of strength), there is no reason to root for a team when they can rely on a single player to net them games, they don't use their top-tier casters which results in weaker numbers than Code S, and the prize pool has always been laughably small.

They'd be better off running tier1/2 WCS events than GSTL, it would probably net them better numbers and they can get big name players competing (Flash, Inno, Bomber, Rain, Soulkey, Sos) on a consistent basis.


Except the LGIM team of champions winning season one and then slumping until this season.
Except the Slayers Cinderella story of Slayers Season One and Two
Except amazing players developing there: DRG, MMA, (also their epic rivalry), Squirtle, Yonghwa, Sage, Taeja.
Except the amazing run of Axiom Acer this season.
I don't even understand how an all-kill isn't a story. When QXC all killed LGIM? That was fucking awesome.
When Symbol reverse all killed LGIM? That also was awesome. When LGIM Yonghwa got back to back all kills? Are you kidding me? That's amazing. It's amazing because it's a feat of strength, and that's a hell of a story.

Edit: Oh, and you're talking about the influence CASTERS have on a teamleague?! Come on... You can't actually be implying that SNM and Whiplash are better than Wolf and Khaldor are you? And if not, then you really don't have a point regarding the casters as they apparently don't have that much of an influence on viewership.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 23 2013 06:41 GMT
#99
On July 23 2013 14:57 TeslasPigeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 14:50 TheDougler wrote:
While that's great for proleague, I fear what that means for GSTL. I don't think they could play both teamleagues, so that'd mean GSTL is down to five teams: Prime (shaky at best right now btw), AxiomAcer, Startale, FXO, Azubu (who seem to be a sinking ship).

I'm really kind of worried about that


Good riddance. GSTL isn't that good. There are no storylines (someone getting an all-kill isn't a story, that is just a feat of strength), there is no reason to root for a team when they can rely on a single player to net them games, they don't use their top-tier casters which results in weaker numbers than Code S, and the prize pool has always been laughably small.

They'd be better off running tier1/2 WCS events than GSTL, it would probably net them better numbers and they can get big name players competing (Flash, Inno, Bomber, Rain, Soulkey, Sos) on a consistent basis.


Yeah I think proleague is far superior to GSTL as well. I wish GSTL would do what proleague does (make it rounds, round 1 proleague format, round 2 all kill, etc). Way more interesting then just doing only all kill.
When I think of something else, something will go here
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 23 2013 06:48 GMT
#100
On July 23 2013 11:16 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Its going to be REALLY awkward for Gom not to have their previous GSTL champions in the GSTL

wouldn't be surprised if there won't be another GSTL. it just doesn't get the hype and viewers.
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