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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 09 2013 08:39 GMT
#181
Wow just read the team mrn house thing on reddit. What a gigantic mess the ended up being! Pretty irresponsible by all parties involved there.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 09 2013 08:42 GMT
#182
On July 09 2013 17:39 Canucklehead wrote:
Wow just read the team mrn house thing on reddit. What a gigantic mess the ended up being! Pretty irresponsible by all parties involved there.


They rented a beach house when their income was only guaranteed for 3 months...yeah...
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 09 2013 08:51 GMT
#183
On July 09 2013 17:26 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 17:10 Disastorm wrote:
On July 09 2013 17:01 Maickel32 wrote:
On July 09 2013 16:31 Bosu wrote:
On July 09 2013 16:10 Maickel32 wrote:
i do net get it ... how can they get that much money without being succesful ? Root has some decent players, but thats all nothing really special.

They dont win tournaments, they just play it.


You don't have to win tournaments to be a part of the community and have fans.



Sure you are right .... but how do you get the money from sponsors without any pretty good results ?!

What a weird world in we live :/

ofc i wish Root just the best ... was just a simple question for me it seems like there is no simple answer for it which will fit :D


I'm sure theres an answer. I don't know how it works exactly , but I would imagine that the more people that watch their streams, the sponsors probably pay them more, or perhaps if they get people to buy stuff from their sponsors they get a cut of it. In addition, they have people that subscribe to their streams which basically gives each of them a monthly income, and they also get donations and anything like that.

The vast majority of the money that made this possible was from a fundraiser. Which isn't constant income. I don't know the numbers with how much streamers make, they keep it so secret Regardless they have 3 people streaming currently with 940 viewers, that seems low. With the sub feature, they would have needed over 1700 subs just to cover the airfare. Their sponsor list seems small as well. This endeavor was brought to you by generous fans.


Good thing is that a lot of the money went to one-time-only expenses (security deposit, furniture, car), but I agree. I do not see them sustaining the house on streaming alone (nor did I ever expect them to). Most likely, they will resort to selling merchandise, but I am also eager to see, what else they come up with,
Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines400 Posts
July 09 2013 09:10 GMT
#184
Nice! I hope Theognis will be there soon
NrT.Artunit
Maickel32
Profile Joined May 2013
Austria5 Posts
July 09 2013 09:12 GMT
#185
On July 09 2013 17:51 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 17:26 Irave wrote:
On July 09 2013 17:10 Disastorm wrote:
On July 09 2013 17:01 Maickel32 wrote:
On July 09 2013 16:31 Bosu wrote:
On July 09 2013 16:10 Maickel32 wrote:
i do net get it ... how can they get that much money without being succesful ? Root has some decent players, but thats all nothing really special.

They dont win tournaments, they just play it.


You don't have to win tournaments to be a part of the community and have fans.



Sure you are right .... but how do you get the money from sponsors without any pretty good results ?!

What a weird world in we live :/

ofc i wish Root just the best ... was just a simple question for me it seems like there is no simple answer for it which will fit :D


I'm sure theres an answer. I don't know how it works exactly , but I would imagine that the more people that watch their streams, the sponsors probably pay them more, or perhaps if they get people to buy stuff from their sponsors they get a cut of it. In addition, they have people that subscribe to their streams which basically gives each of them a monthly income, and they also get donations and anything like that.



The vast majority of the money that made this possible was from a fundraiser. Which isn't constant income. I don't know the numbers with how much streamers make, they keep it so secret Regardless they have 3 people streaming currently with 940 viewers, that seems low. With the sub feature, they would have needed over 1700 subs just to cover the airfare. Their sponsor list seems small as well. This endeavor was brought to you by generous fans.


Good thing is that a lot of the money went to one-time-only expenses (security deposit, furniture, car), but I agree. I do not see them sustaining the house on streaming alone (nor did I ever expect them to). Most likely, they will resort to selling merchandise, but I am also eager to see, what else they come up with,


For sure they need much more for income than they have now ... cuz i think they have a fanbase but its not that big at the moment, cuz they miss a leading light, like other teams have it.

I really hope they can keep it up with the teamhouse !
MurdersaurusRex
Profile Joined May 2012
30 Posts
July 09 2013 14:22 GMT
#186
Text smiley faces can't express the excitement and good tidings of this news!
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Elucidate
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
205 Posts
July 09 2013 17:18 GMT
#187
The Bay Area is becoming an even sweeter place for eSports...awwwww yes.
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QQKachoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States192 Posts
July 09 2013 22:12 GMT
#188
On July 09 2013 03:15 ( bush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:18 QQKachoo wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:01 havok55 wrote:
On July 09 2013 01:10 QQKachoo wrote:
$374 for internet setup and first month!? Damn comcast is gouging people.


Pretty sure we're not talking about your ordinary single family internet.


Well considering top internet package from comcast is $115. I am assuming there was another $50-$100 install charge. Considering what they spent they might have gotten a tv/phone package as well. Only other thing I could think of was that they purchased a business plan but that is usually slower speeds than home plans.

Either way Comcast = Scam, same goes for Charter and any other cable company that gives these bullshit speeds for such a high cost.


Out of curiosity, what is a bullshit speed for you?


100 down and 5 up is bullshit. The down is ok but the fact you only get 5 up for >$100 per month is bullshit.
@QKachoo
QQKachoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States192 Posts
July 09 2013 22:13 GMT
#189
On July 09 2013 11:03 Energizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 02:18 QQKachoo wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:01 havok55 wrote:
On July 09 2013 01:10 QQKachoo wrote:
$374 for internet setup and first month!? Damn comcast is gouging people.


Pretty sure we're not talking about your ordinary single family internet.


Well considering top internet package from comcast is $115. I am assuming there was another $50-$100 install charge. Considering what they spent they might have gotten a tv/phone package as well. Only other thing I could think of was that they purchased a business plan but that is usually slower speeds than home plans.

Either way Comcast = Scam, same goes for Charter and any other cable company that gives these bullshit speeds for such a high cost.


Or they could of went with commercial pricing (such as a direct fiber line) instead of your standard residential plans that you normally see. If they did indeed go with the business plan, then the amount they are paying isn't to far out of reach for the speeds they should be receiving.


Business speeds are slower than residential speeds most of the time. Also knowing comcast that is most likely true. Also comcast doesn't do fiber.
@QKachoo
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 09 2013 22:22 GMT
#190
Call me crazy but I'm confused how this is expected to sustainable when fan donations were apparently needed for the vast majority of start up costs...and only covered the first month.
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
July 09 2013 22:44 GMT
#191
On July 10 2013 07:12 QQKachoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 03:15 ( bush wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:18 QQKachoo wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:01 havok55 wrote:
On July 09 2013 01:10 QQKachoo wrote:
$374 for internet setup and first month!? Damn comcast is gouging people.


Pretty sure we're not talking about your ordinary single family internet.


Well considering top internet package from comcast is $115. I am assuming there was another $50-$100 install charge. Considering what they spent they might have gotten a tv/phone package as well. Only other thing I could think of was that they purchased a business plan but that is usually slower speeds than home plans.

Either way Comcast = Scam, same goes for Charter and any other cable company that gives these bullshit speeds for such a high cost.


Out of curiosity, what is a bullshit speed for you?


100 down and 5 up is bullshit. The down is ok but the fact you only get 5 up for >$100 per month is bullshit.


thats cute.
In the country i live, our best deal is 125$ to get 5mb upload and 50mb download
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QQKachoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States192 Posts
July 09 2013 23:10 GMT
#192
On July 10 2013 07:44 ( bush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 07:12 QQKachoo wrote:
On July 09 2013 03:15 ( bush wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:18 QQKachoo wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:01 havok55 wrote:
On July 09 2013 01:10 QQKachoo wrote:
$374 for internet setup and first month!? Damn comcast is gouging people.


Pretty sure we're not talking about your ordinary single family internet.


Well considering top internet package from comcast is $115. I am assuming there was another $50-$100 install charge. Considering what they spent they might have gotten a tv/phone package as well. Only other thing I could think of was that they purchased a business plan but that is usually slower speeds than home plans.

Either way Comcast = Scam, same goes for Charter and any other cable company that gives these bullshit speeds for such a high cost.


Out of curiosity, what is a bullshit speed for you?


100 down and 5 up is bullshit. The down is ok but the fact you only get 5 up for >$100 per month is bullshit.


thats cute.
In the country i live, our best deal is 125$ to get 5mb upload and 50mb download


the main thing that is bullshit is the upload. You having 50 down is plenty to use. Also even though I was paying for 100 down I never reached those speeds on any of my downloads.
@QKachoo
Sephiren
Profile Joined September 2012
United States85 Posts
July 09 2013 23:17 GMT
#193
Grats, and that is a lot of cleaning supplies!
Mvrio
Profile Joined July 2011
689 Posts
July 10 2013 00:11 GMT
#194
HOLY CRAP!! I live in Antioch!!!, CatZ Vibe or Minigun anybody if you need any help or want information just let me know!!!
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-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1927 Posts
July 10 2013 00:30 GMT
#195
On July 10 2013 08:10 QQKachoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 07:44 ( bush wrote:
On July 10 2013 07:12 QQKachoo wrote:
On July 09 2013 03:15 ( bush wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:18 QQKachoo wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:01 havok55 wrote:
On July 09 2013 01:10 QQKachoo wrote:
$374 for internet setup and first month!? Damn comcast is gouging people.


Pretty sure we're not talking about your ordinary single family internet.


Well considering top internet package from comcast is $115. I am assuming there was another $50-$100 install charge. Considering what they spent they might have gotten a tv/phone package as well. Only other thing I could think of was that they purchased a business plan but that is usually slower speeds than home plans.

Either way Comcast = Scam, same goes for Charter and any other cable company that gives these bullshit speeds for such a high cost.


Out of curiosity, what is a bullshit speed for you?


100 down and 5 up is bullshit. The down is ok but the fact you only get 5 up for >$100 per month is bullshit.


thats cute.
In the country i live, our best deal is 125$ to get 5mb upload and 50mb download


the main thing that is bullshit is the upload. You having 50 down is plenty to use. Also even though I was paying for 100 down I never reached those speeds on any of my downloads.


You have to remember that things are advertised as bits instead of bytes(8 bites=1 byte). So, 100 down is actually only a speed of 10mb/s. The new google fiber lines and Japanese lines are between 100-200mb/s; advertised as 1-2gig lines. What he is saying about upload is very true. It does not have ample cost differential between up/down and it's literally just private companies without competition being able to do what they want. The best area to get internet is a place where the ground is very cool; so added heat also increases prices. That, or you can just go to insane industrial hubs like Seoul or Tokyo and get insane net for very very cheap because it's in such demand.

In any case, I've heard many iffy things about cc during peak times so hopefully their streams hold up well, and in other games as well. Will be sweet to see a large majority of their house streaming all at once
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Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
July 10 2013 02:26 GMT
#196
On July 10 2013 09:30 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 08:10 QQKachoo wrote:
On July 10 2013 07:44 ( bush wrote:
On July 10 2013 07:12 QQKachoo wrote:
On July 09 2013 03:15 ( bush wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:18 QQKachoo wrote:
On July 09 2013 02:01 havok55 wrote:
On July 09 2013 01:10 QQKachoo wrote:
$374 for internet setup and first month!? Damn comcast is gouging people.


Pretty sure we're not talking about your ordinary single family internet.


Well considering top internet package from comcast is $115. I am assuming there was another $50-$100 install charge. Considering what they spent they might have gotten a tv/phone package as well. Only other thing I could think of was that they purchased a business plan but that is usually slower speeds than home plans.

Either way Comcast = Scam, same goes for Charter and any other cable company that gives these bullshit speeds for such a high cost.


Out of curiosity, what is a bullshit speed for you?


100 down and 5 up is bullshit. The down is ok but the fact you only get 5 up for >$100 per month is bullshit.


thats cute.
In the country i live, our best deal is 125$ to get 5mb upload and 50mb download


the main thing that is bullshit is the upload. You having 50 down is plenty to use. Also even though I was paying for 100 down I never reached those speeds on any of my downloads.


You have to remember that things are advertised as bits instead of bytes(8 bites=1 byte). So, 100 down is actually only a speed of 10mb/s. The new google fiber lines and Japanese lines are between 100-200mb/s; advertised as 1-2gig lines. What he is saying about upload is very true. It does not have ample cost differential between up/down and it's literally just private companies without competition being able to do what they want. The best area to get internet is a place where the ground is very cool; so added heat also increases prices. That, or you can just go to insane industrial hubs like Seoul or Tokyo and get insane net for very very cheap because it's in such demand.

In any case, I've heard many iffy things about cc during peak times so hopefully their streams hold up well, and in other games as well. Will be sweet to see a large majority of their house streaming all at once

You can also get near 100/100Mb speed in certain locations in San Francisco and berkeley for only 45$ a month by an isp called WebPass. They also advertise some areas as 200/200 but I don't have experience with that to confirm how accurate it is.
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bosnia
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada223 Posts
July 10 2013 04:08 GMT
#197
GLGLGLGL!
TL member since 2002, Protoss ftw!!
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
July 10 2013 13:12 GMT
#198
On July 08 2013 08:58 Waxangel wrote:
all the members need to be given individual bonzai trees to raise so they learn the the values of responsibility and patience


This, and maybe get them waxing cars and painting fences? As soon as they start to complain, stick them next to the keyboard and hey presto.... They'll smash it into pieces and become the Karate champs they were born to be!

Wait... That might not help the SC2 much, maybe don't do that...
Bleh.
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
July 10 2013 13:22 GMT
#199
hmm I really hope it all works out for them..
SimoNostalgia
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States226 Posts
July 13 2013 06:19 GMT
#200
Love the pool set up! Was watching minigun last night and you guys seemed very cheerful. Good luck! Have fun!
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