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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 07 2013 16:10 GMT
#121
Top 16 in a major event seems a bit stingy imo.

If you take into account that there are going to be 10 koreans in the top 16 who don't bother streaming / aren't allowed to then another 6 top-tier players who are already popular / featured etc its kinda poop

top 32 is a better benchmark, top 16 breakthroughs are ALOT to ask for, top 32 is more do-able but still extremely difficult, allowing for amateur breakthroughs etc.

Either way. This is your house
Useless wet fish.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 07 2013 16:20 GMT
#122
hope tarrantius makes wcs so he is featured finally
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Arkansassy
Profile Joined October 2010
358 Posts
July 07 2013 16:22 GMT
#123
On July 07 2013 21:44 Aveng3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 20:42 murphs wrote:
The desperation of avilo and his fanboys makes me cringe.

its nauseating. everywhere you go hes recruiting people to sing his praises.


Firstly, this thread isn't about avilo or his haters coming to ignorantly dish more hate. Secondly, you're wrong, because avilo has plenty of fans who admire him. He doesn't have to recruit anyone.

That being said, I'm more than anxious to see these new rules implemented. It sounds fair to all and hopefully it will be. It opens the door for those people who should be featured - and have not - and should close the door on those who are featured based on past merits and have long since stopped trying.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
July 07 2013 16:23 GMT
#124
On July 08 2013 01:10 Capped wrote:
Top 16 in a major event seems a bit stingy imo.

If you take into account that there are going to be 10 koreans in the top 16 who don't bother streaming / aren't allowed to then another 6 top-tier players who are already popular / featured etc its kinda poop

top 32 is a better benchmark, top 16 breakthroughs are ALOT to ask for, top 32 is more do-able but still extremely difficult, allowing for amateur breakthroughs etc.

Either way. This is your house


While there is merit to your points, this is still very much an improvement over the previous system.
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Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 07 2013 16:25 GMT
#125
Is there a way to hid the "other notable streams"? Maximusblack is fine and all, but not really what I'm looking for when I check out TL sidebar.
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IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
July 07 2013 16:29 GMT
#126
Nice to get some clear rules on this!

It used to be so shaky on who was featured or not.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 07 2013 16:31 GMT
#127
On July 08 2013 01:25 Rhaegal wrote:
Is there a way to hid the "other notable streams"? Maximusblack is fine and all, but not really what I'm looking for when I check out TL sidebar.

You could just not click on him. I mean, its not really that big of a deal if he is under notable streamers. JP is there too.
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Rumbidzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway1 Post
July 07 2013 16:43 GMT
#128
On July 07 2013 21:44 Aveng3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 20:42 murphs wrote:
The desperation of avilo and his fanboys makes me cringe.

its nauseating. everywhere you go hes recruiting people to sing his praises.


I've never been much for interacting, but I felt like commenting on the one thing i DO see everywhere I go in the sc2 community: People getting on the bandwagon as soon as a player or personality is singled out as ok to pick on. Who you are doesn't seem to have as much to do with what you do as with being on the "right" side. I'm honestly getting so tired of this toxicity holding people down.

The established platforms and shows hold a lot of influence and the community is easily swayed. I seems like everyone goes to Reddit to get informed on whether Tasteless is considered a good caster this week or if it's ok to like Husky and then hit the forums and streams and bash accordingly. If you're not vetted by the right people, you're nobody and will go nowhere.

I'd personally like to have the entire selection and for people to make up their own minds as to what they like. While I'm not sure if the WCS requirement is the way to go, I'm glad TL is taking steps towards making the system more transparent.





Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 07 2013 16:56 GMT
#129
On July 08 2013 01:23 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 01:10 Capped wrote:
Top 16 in a major event seems a bit stingy imo.

If you take into account that there are going to be 10 koreans in the top 16 who don't bother streaming / aren't allowed to then another 6 top-tier players who are already popular / featured etc its kinda poop

top 32 is a better benchmark, top 16 breakthroughs are ALOT to ask for, top 32 is more do-able but still extremely difficult, allowing for amateur breakthroughs etc.

Either way. This is your house


While there is merit to your points, this is still very much an improvement over the previous system.


Of course :-)
Useless wet fish.
Cowpieguy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States97 Posts
July 07 2013 17:07 GMT
#130
Wow, what's with all the hate for ProTech?! I really enjoy his stream. I would be very disappointed if he got taken off the featured list. I enjoy watching 2v2. I would argue he is one of the best 2v2 players out there. That's worth being featured.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 07 2013 17:26 GMT
#131
On July 08 2013 01:06 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 00:10 Bagi wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:56 Plansix wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:51 Bagi wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:46 Plansix wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:30 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On July 07 2013 23:04 Bagi wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:57 Plexa wrote:
On July 07 2013 09:42 avilo wrote:
We require a fairly high average viewer count before considering adding streams that do not meet WCS requirements (or are an appropriate fit for other). While you may have gotten a 500 viewer peak, your average sits at 173. For instance, Ms.Spyte is sitting around 1k average unfeatured right now, she is at the top of the list in terms of consideration for being added. There are also a few other unfeatured streams who maintain better averages than you, who also are higher on the priority list that you. If you are looking to make a case for being featured then aim for the top 50 streams. If you get on that list (not just the viewers*hours rating) let us know and we may reconsider our position.

Is it just me or is the idea of MsSpyte getting featured really weird?

Its literally people watching her because "omg its a gurl gamer" and I'm not sure why a site like TL would encourage that kind of behaviour. Maybe if she joined a pro team and even tried playing in some tournaments, she would seem more legit.

Pretty sure it's just you

I am with Scarlett here, I am not willing to make value judgments on streamers, specifically in the "omg its a gurl gamer" cases. There could be a very talented female player and may also be entertaining and funny. I am not willing to write of a player just because there is a chance people are only watching her because she is a girl.

It's not a chance, it's a certainty.

Be realistic.

If you are willing to write her off just because she is a woman, that is your problem. And you should really think about the idea that TL shouldn't feature female streamers because we just assume that all their viewers are due to them being a woman. You can claim "being realistic" all you want, but at a certain point assuming something based solely on the gender of a person becomes sexism.

All I'm saying in "be realistic" is that she's getting the viewers because she is a girl, there is no doubt about it. I'm not trying to discredit her in any other way. If anything prefer equal treatment and if some mid-masters dude managed to get a thousand viewers without having any actual relevance to the scene, I would argue against him getting featured too.

I love girl gamers and especially Scarlett even when she doesn't agree with me, but I think some control needs to be had as long as TL.net is pushing the progamer agenda instead of being a pure popularity contest. Twitch already exists to do that. I hope you don't assume I'm sexist because of this.

If you're against people being featured by popularity rather than skill then just say that:/ Why do you have to bring up the whole girl vs boy issue in which case I'd argue that it's more of a deterrent given the massive amount of unfiltered misogyny in the online gaming communities

I guess it's because the girl vs boy issue is why she is popular in the first place.
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
July 07 2013 17:40 GMT
#132
On July 07 2013 11:18 yyfpulls wrote:
I think people like orb and Destiny should be defeatured. They are an embarrassment and have nothing to do with sc2 anymore.


Orb was probably the best analytical caster ever and besides, was just an intelligent person whose ramblings on stream were worth listening in contrast to many many other progamers.
the game is the game
hefa
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland22 Posts
July 07 2013 17:41 GMT
#133
These streams are just entertainment. People watch them for different reasons (skill, personality, support.. ). Having too rigid set of rules for featured list will only serve a portion of people visiting this site.

The featured streams list has the problem of directing a lot of traffic (and money) to the featured ones. Majority of people will just click on those and never look into the unfeatured ones. As the featured list changes very little we see the same names all the time. It would be nice to have some of the unfeatured ones to pop up and give new streamers a change to win over their audience.

How about separating concepts of popular and featured? have the front page stream list to have two categories:
- most popular streams online. Just based on numbers of average viewers.
- featured streams list that changes weekly. Either have some logic behind it, request system for being featured for next week, pure random pick or some combination of those.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
July 07 2013 17:54 GMT
#134
so how exactly does an up and coming non-korean get featured?
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
July 07 2013 18:05 GMT
#135
On July 08 2013 01:43 Rumbidzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2013 21:44 Aveng3r wrote:
On July 07 2013 20:42 murphs wrote:
The desperation of avilo and his fanboys makes me cringe.

its nauseating. everywhere you go hes recruiting people to sing his praises.


I've never been much for interacting, but I felt like commenting on the one thing i DO see everywhere I go in the sc2 community: People getting on the bandwagon as soon as a player or personality is singled out as ok to pick on. Who you are doesn't seem to have as much to do with what you do as with being on the "right" side. I'm honestly getting so tired of this toxicity holding people down.

The established platforms and shows hold a lot of influence and the community is easily swayed. I seems like everyone goes to Reddit to get informed on whether Tasteless is considered a good caster this week or if it's ok to like Husky and then hit the forums and streams and bash accordingly. If you're not vetted by the right people, you're nobody and will go nowhere.

I'd personally like to have the entire selection and for people to make up their own minds as to what they like. While I'm not sure if the WCS requirement is the way to go, I'm glad TL is taking steps towards making the system more transparent.






ugh I hate this argument. People don't pick on him because a few people started to do it and everybody jumped on the bandwagon, people give him crap because hes earned it. He handles himself poorly not only on his stream but on the streams of other community figures. Even the way he handles himself on this forum is childish and unprofessional, he is constantly whining and getting banned for doing so.
On topic, I agree that it is a good thing to have clearer guidelines for getting a stream to be featured.
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garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 18:13:34
July 07 2013 18:13 GMT
#136
On July 07 2013 09:47 Ben... wrote:
As long as Nony stays featured, then I am happy.

Unfortunately, I don't think NonY would be featured under this policy unless he's in a special category for "notable streams". He hasn't been holding a consistent viewer count in the "several hundreds".
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2399 Posts
July 07 2013 18:18 GMT
#137
On July 08 2013 02:54 sixfour wrote:
so how exactly does an up and coming non-korean get featured?

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sCnInfinity
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany82 Posts
July 07 2013 18:24 GMT
#138
Man i hope that Sterling will finally be featured now ;D
Awesome guy, awesome player, awesome streamer.
Long live the King Of Wings
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 07 2013 18:25 GMT
#139
On July 08 2013 03:05 Aveng3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2013 01:43 Rumbidzai wrote:
On July 07 2013 21:44 Aveng3r wrote:
On July 07 2013 20:42 murphs wrote:
The desperation of avilo and his fanboys makes me cringe.

its nauseating. everywhere you go hes recruiting people to sing his praises.


I've never been much for interacting, but I felt like commenting on the one thing i DO see everywhere I go in the sc2 community: People getting on the bandwagon as soon as a player or personality is singled out as ok to pick on. Who you are doesn't seem to have as much to do with what you do as with being on the "right" side. I'm honestly getting so tired of this toxicity holding people down.

The established platforms and shows hold a lot of influence and the community is easily swayed. I seems like everyone goes to Reddit to get informed on whether Tasteless is considered a good caster this week or if it's ok to like Husky and then hit the forums and streams and bash accordingly. If you're not vetted by the right people, you're nobody and will go nowhere.

I'd personally like to have the entire selection and for people to make up their own minds as to what they like. While I'm not sure if the WCS requirement is the way to go, I'm glad TL is taking steps towards making the system more transparent.






ugh I hate this argument. People don't pick on him because a few people started to do it and everybody jumped on the bandwagon, people give him crap because hes earned it. He handles himself poorly not only on his stream but on the streams of other community figures. Even the way he handles himself on this forum is childish and unprofessional, he is constantly whining and getting banned for doing so.
On topic, I agree that it is a good thing to have clearer guidelines for getting a stream to be featured.

Its no bandwagon with Avilo. He has consistently earned his reputation. People may bandwagon a bit, but at the end of the day he lives up to a lot of peoples complaints.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 18:39:49
July 07 2013 18:39 GMT
#140
On July 08 2013 02:07 Cowpieguy wrote:
Wow, what's with all the hate for ProTech?! I really enjoy his stream. I would be very disappointed if he got taken off the featured list. I enjoy watching 2v2. I would argue he is one of the best 2v2 players out there. That's worth being featured.

I guess that him being a douchebag doesn't help, team games already have a bad reputation and watching constant BM in the only 2v2 featured stream may be a bitter experience. Anyway, I agree that he deserve to be featured, 2v2 is refreshing and Protech's play is enjoyable.

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