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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
If you take into account that there are going to be 10 koreans in the top 16 who don't bother streaming / aren't allowed to then another 6 top-tier players who are already popular / featured etc its kinda poop top 32 is a better benchmark, top 16 breakthroughs are ALOT to ask for, top 32 is more do-able but still extremely difficult, allowing for amateur breakthroughs etc. Either way. This is your house | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Arkansassy
358 Posts
On July 07 2013 21:44 Aveng3r wrote: its nauseating. everywhere you go hes recruiting people to sing his praises. Firstly, this thread isn't about avilo or his haters coming to ignorantly dish more hate. Secondly, you're wrong, because avilo has plenty of fans who admire him. He doesn't have to recruit anyone. That being said, I'm more than anxious to see these new rules implemented. It sounds fair to all and hopefully it will be. It opens the door for those people who should be featured - and have not - and should close the door on those who are featured based on past merits and have long since stopped trying. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On July 08 2013 01:10 Capped wrote: Top 16 in a major event seems a bit stingy imo. If you take into account that there are going to be 10 koreans in the top 16 who don't bother streaming / aren't allowed to then another 6 top-tier players who are already popular / featured etc its kinda poop top 32 is a better benchmark, top 16 breakthroughs are ALOT to ask for, top 32 is more do-able but still extremely difficult, allowing for amateur breakthroughs etc. Either way. This is your house While there is merit to your points, this is still very much an improvement over the previous system. | ||
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
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IcookTacos
Sweden295 Posts
It used to be so shaky on who was featured or not. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 08 2013 01:25 Rhaegal wrote: Is there a way to hid the "other notable streams"? Maximusblack is fine and all, but not really what I'm looking for when I check out TL sidebar. You could just not click on him. I mean, its not really that big of a deal if he is under notable streamers. JP is there too. | ||
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Rumbidzai
Norway1 Post
On July 07 2013 21:44 Aveng3r wrote: its nauseating. everywhere you go hes recruiting people to sing his praises. I've never been much for interacting, but I felt like commenting on the one thing i DO see everywhere I go in the sc2 community: People getting on the bandwagon as soon as a player or personality is singled out as ok to pick on. Who you are doesn't seem to have as much to do with what you do as with being on the "right" side. I'm honestly getting so tired of this toxicity holding people down. The established platforms and shows hold a lot of influence and the community is easily swayed. I seems like everyone goes to Reddit to get informed on whether Tasteless is considered a good caster this week or if it's ok to like Husky and then hit the forums and streams and bash accordingly. If you're not vetted by the right people, you're nobody and will go nowhere. I'd personally like to have the entire selection and for people to make up their own minds as to what they like. While I'm not sure if the WCS requirement is the way to go, I'm glad TL is taking steps towards making the system more transparent. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On July 08 2013 01:23 MasterOfPuppets wrote: While there is merit to your points, this is still very much an improvement over the previous system. Of course :-) | ||
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Cowpieguy
United States97 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On July 08 2013 01:06 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: If you're against people being featured by popularity rather than skill then just say that:/ Why do you have to bring up the whole girl vs boy issue in which case I'd argue that it's more of a deterrent given the massive amount of unfiltered misogyny in the online gaming communities I guess it's because the girl vs boy issue is why she is popular in the first place. | ||
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
On July 07 2013 11:18 yyfpulls wrote: I think people like orb and Destiny should be defeatured. They are an embarrassment and have nothing to do with sc2 anymore. Orb was probably the best analytical caster ever and besides, was just an intelligent person whose ramblings on stream were worth listening in contrast to many many other progamers. | ||
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hefa
Finland22 Posts
The featured streams list has the problem of directing a lot of traffic (and money) to the featured ones. Majority of people will just click on those and never look into the unfeatured ones. As the featured list changes very little we see the same names all the time. It would be nice to have some of the unfeatured ones to pop up and give new streamers a change to win over their audience. How about separating concepts of popular and featured? have the front page stream list to have two categories: - most popular streams online. Just based on numbers of average viewers. - featured streams list that changes weekly. Either have some logic behind it, request system for being featured for next week, pure random pick or some combination of those. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On July 08 2013 01:43 Rumbidzai wrote: I've never been much for interacting, but I felt like commenting on the one thing i DO see everywhere I go in the sc2 community: People getting on the bandwagon as soon as a player or personality is singled out as ok to pick on. Who you are doesn't seem to have as much to do with what you do as with being on the "right" side. I'm honestly getting so tired of this toxicity holding people down. The established platforms and shows hold a lot of influence and the community is easily swayed. I seems like everyone goes to Reddit to get informed on whether Tasteless is considered a good caster this week or if it's ok to like Husky and then hit the forums and streams and bash accordingly. If you're not vetted by the right people, you're nobody and will go nowhere. I'd personally like to have the entire selection and for people to make up their own minds as to what they like. While I'm not sure if the WCS requirement is the way to go, I'm glad TL is taking steps towards making the system more transparent. ugh I hate this argument. People don't pick on him because a few people started to do it and everybody jumped on the bandwagon, people give him crap because hes earned it. He handles himself poorly not only on his stream but on the streams of other community figures. Even the way he handles himself on this forum is childish and unprofessional, he is constantly whining and getting banned for doing so. On topic, I agree that it is a good thing to have clearer guidelines for getting a stream to be featured. | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
On July 07 2013 09:47 Ben... wrote: As long as Nony stays featured, then I am happy. Unfortunately, I don't think NonY would be featured under this policy unless he's in a special category for "notable streams". He hasn't been holding a consistent viewer count in the "several hundreds".  | ||
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Scarlett`
Canada2386 Posts
On July 08 2013 02:54 sixfour wrote: so how exactly does an up and coming non-korean get featured? Qualify for challenger league - | ||
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sCnInfinity
Germany82 Posts
Awesome guy, awesome player, awesome streamer. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 08 2013 03:05 Aveng3r wrote: ugh I hate this argument. People don't pick on him because a few people started to do it and everybody jumped on the bandwagon, people give him crap because hes earned it. He handles himself poorly not only on his stream but on the streams of other community figures. Even the way he handles himself on this forum is childish and unprofessional, he is constantly whining and getting banned for doing so. On topic, I agree that it is a good thing to have clearer guidelines for getting a stream to be featured. Its no bandwagon with Avilo. He has consistently earned his reputation. People may bandwagon a bit, but at the end of the day he lives up to a lot of peoples complaints. | ||
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Big G
Italy835 Posts
On July 08 2013 02:07 Cowpieguy wrote: Wow, what's with all the hate for ProTech?! I really enjoy his stream. I would be very disappointed if he got taken off the featured list. I enjoy watching 2v2. I would argue he is one of the best 2v2 players out there. That's worth being featured. I guess that him being a douchebag doesn't help, team games already have a bad reputation and watching constant BM in the only 2v2 featured stream may be a bitter experience. Anyway, I agree that he deserve to be featured, 2v2 is refreshing and Protech's play is enjoyable. | ||
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