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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 27 2013 23:42 GMT
#241
On June 28 2013 08:41 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 08:18 StarStruck wrote:
On June 28 2013 08:09 1Dhalism wrote:
On June 28 2013 07:49 StarStruck wrote:
On June 28 2013 07:42 1Dhalism wrote:
On June 28 2013 07:29 StarStruck wrote:
Streaming is bullshit. I wouldn't base anyone's popularity based on stream numbers alone lmao.

what would you base it on? Your own personal top 10?


Don't put words in my mouth. There is a lot more to it than just streaming.

and i asked you what. And i'm gonna ask you what's your point, since whatever else it is facebook or twitter followers, idra has got it covered.
Low stream numbers dont mean much. But high stream numbers mean hell of a lot.


No, no they don't because that's only one aspect of the equation. Anywho, I'm not going to waste time arguing with you, which ironically is one of Greg's favorite pass-times and bitching. I guess that's just one reason his fan boys relate to him. See what I did there? -.^

EDIT: noticed you edited your post. So here's the last thing I'm going to say with regards to Greg. He does a lot of other things than just stream constantly and considering you sound like a fan boy of his I'm pretty sure you have a good idea of all his other extra-curricular stuff so let's end it there.

well now that i realize you just dislike idra and talk out of your ass it's pretty clear yea.


Talk out of my ass? You sir are a riot and yeah we're done here. :V
Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
June 27 2013 23:54 GMT
#242
Pure SC2 is boring to watch, even if it's Flash playing. People prefer some human commentary. I guess Stephano's popularity was unique because of his distinctive play-style coupled with good results.
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
June 28 2013 01:05 GMT
#243
While this is kinda awesome and I looooove watching KeSPA FPVoDs, I really hope he only streams a minimal amount. His main focus should still be private practice with his team and whatever else he does to be the best.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
June 28 2013 01:33 GMT
#244
On June 28 2013 06:56 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 05:43 sd_andeh wrote:
On June 28 2013 04:29 TsGBruzze wrote:
On June 27 2013 23:22 DDie wrote:
On June 27 2013 10:16 SupLilSon wrote:
Wow so Flash will stream on twitch? I wonder how many viewers there will be... at least 20k hopefully.



10k, at best.

Yes sadly... but i would watch every second of it...


IdrA has 10k viewers RIGHT NOW.

If Flash's stream is announced a few days beforehand so that everyone knows exactly when to sit their asses down in front of their computer to watch Flash show the world how he plays the game we all love, I am sure that his stream will hit very high numbers, if not reach new sc2-related records when it comes to personal streams.

On other subjects: I really hope he only streams once or twice. For one, the amount of viewers will diminish the more he streams and it might hurt his regular practice. We can't know for sure though, but I really hope he doesn't stream much.

idra is the 2nd most popular sc2 player.
Jaedong would be a good indicator, he started at like what 12-15k but nowadays at about 3k?
I dont see why flash would be any different.


At Flash's level, depending on frequency and length of the sessions, I think even a regular 50k+ viewers is possible . We have to consider the viewers from Korea(deal exclusive to Razer/Twitch AFAIK) and other parts of the world too. We are talking about the legendary Flash live streaming his practice FPVOD for the first time in history, now that's got to mean something every SC fans in the world!

And if he happens to enter GOD MODE in SC2 during this streaming deal...gosh $_$. Just hope Twitch can withstand the bandwidth.
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
June 28 2013 04:06 GMT
#245
Jaedong hasn't been doing very well in SC2. Koreans don't need to watch streams on their computer because they have 24/7 gaming channels on tv.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
June 28 2013 04:16 GMT
#246
Well I guess that all the Terran streamers are in trouble when it comes to viewers, lol, actually all streamers will be suffering from this heh, When Flash starts streaming, he will literally have every possible viewer watching :-P

Regardless im SO HYPED to see flash stream, this will truly be an amazing experience. Thanks for this
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 04:38:34
June 28 2013 04:28 GMT
#247
On June 28 2013 10:33 forumtext wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 06:56 1Dhalism wrote:
On June 28 2013 05:43 sd_andeh wrote:
On June 28 2013 04:29 TsGBruzze wrote:
On June 27 2013 23:22 DDie wrote:
On June 27 2013 10:16 SupLilSon wrote:
Wow so Flash will stream on twitch? I wonder how many viewers there will be... at least 20k hopefully.



10k, at best.

Yes sadly... but i would watch every second of it...


IdrA has 10k viewers RIGHT NOW.

If Flash's stream is announced a few days beforehand so that everyone knows exactly when to sit their asses down in front of their computer to watch Flash show the world how he plays the game we all love, I am sure that his stream will hit very high numbers, if not reach new sc2-related records when it comes to personal streams.

On other subjects: I really hope he only streams once or twice. For one, the amount of viewers will diminish the more he streams and it might hurt his regular practice. We can't know for sure though, but I really hope he doesn't stream much.

idra is the 2nd most popular sc2 player.
Jaedong would be a good indicator, he started at like what 12-15k but nowadays at about 3k?
I dont see why flash would be any different.


At Flash's level, depending on frequency and length of the sessions, I think even a regular 50k+ viewers is possible . We have to consider the viewers from Korea(deal exclusive to Razer/Twitch AFAIK) and other parts of the world too. We are talking about the legendary Flash live streaming his practice FPVOD for the first time in history, now that's got to mean something every SC fans in the world!

And if he happens to enter GOD MODE in SC2 during this streaming deal...gosh $_$. Just hope Twitch can withstand the bandwidth.


I think you are way overestimating that number. As much as I would love being proven wrong, 50k is only a singular dream. Jaedong is every bit iconic as Flash is in the Starcraft world. Even if Flash may be more popular or well known, he will never consistently get 50k.
Not to mention Korea generally does not really like SC2 as well as timezone differences. I would guess he will have similar streaming results as JD, perhaps slightly better or even lots better but never close to 50k. I can see him peaking at 25k-30k when he first starts streaming, though. JD's first session could have been better advertised, so I hope Flash's is done better. His stream will probably have similar viewership as Stephano's.

I hope I eat my words, and the whole world tunes in.
T P Z sagi
KuKri
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany168 Posts
June 28 2013 04:44 GMT
#248
On June 28 2013 10:33 forumtext wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 06:56 1Dhalism wrote:
On June 28 2013 05:43 sd_andeh wrote:
On June 28 2013 04:29 TsGBruzze wrote:
On June 27 2013 23:22 DDie wrote:
On June 27 2013 10:16 SupLilSon wrote:
Wow so Flash will stream on twitch? I wonder how many viewers there will be... at least 20k hopefully.



10k, at best.

Yes sadly... but i would watch every second of it...


IdrA has 10k viewers RIGHT NOW.

If Flash's stream is announced a few days beforehand so that everyone knows exactly when to sit their asses down in front of their computer to watch Flash show the world how he plays the game we all love, I am sure that his stream will hit very high numbers, if not reach new sc2-related records when it comes to personal streams.

On other subjects: I really hope he only streams once or twice. For one, the amount of viewers will diminish the more he streams and it might hurt his regular practice. We can't know for sure though, but I really hope he doesn't stream much.

idra is the 2nd most popular sc2 player.
Jaedong would be a good indicator, he started at like what 12-15k but nowadays at about 3k?
I dont see why flash would be any different.


At Flash's level, depending on frequency and length of the sessions, I think even a regular 50k+ viewers is possible . We have to consider the viewers from Korea(deal exclusive to Razer/Twitch AFAIK) and other parts of the world too. We are talking about the legendary Flash live streaming his practice FPVOD for the first time in history, now that's got to mean something every SC fans in the world!

And if he happens to enter GOD MODE in SC2 during this streaming deal...gosh $_$. Just hope Twitch can withstand the bandwidth.

Not going to happen. There aren't even 50k people at the same time interested in watching SC2 first person streams.
And also he will never enter GOD MODE anymore like his 30 game winning streak in bw proleague, because SC2 is just not as rewarding in skill as bw. However, I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 28 2013 04:48 GMT
#249
On June 23 2013 21:16 Gamegene wrote:
flash streaming would depress me. the times are changing...


ah...

the same tired feelings i get seeing Yongsan studio empty, or when NaDa and Jaedong joined foreigner teams... sigh...

Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 28 2013 05:52 GMT
#250
On June 28 2013 10:33 forumtext wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 06:56 1Dhalism wrote:
On June 28 2013 05:43 sd_andeh wrote:
On June 28 2013 04:29 TsGBruzze wrote:
On June 27 2013 23:22 DDie wrote:
On June 27 2013 10:16 SupLilSon wrote:
Wow so Flash will stream on twitch? I wonder how many viewers there will be... at least 20k hopefully.



10k, at best.

Yes sadly... but i would watch every second of it...


IdrA has 10k viewers RIGHT NOW.

If Flash's stream is announced a few days beforehand so that everyone knows exactly when to sit their asses down in front of their computer to watch Flash show the world how he plays the game we all love, I am sure that his stream will hit very high numbers, if not reach new sc2-related records when it comes to personal streams.

On other subjects: I really hope he only streams once or twice. For one, the amount of viewers will diminish the more he streams and it might hurt his regular practice. We can't know for sure though, but I really hope he doesn't stream much.

idra is the 2nd most popular sc2 player.
Jaedong would be a good indicator, he started at like what 12-15k but nowadays at about 3k?
I dont see why flash would be any different.


At Flash's level, depending on frequency and length of the sessions, I think even a regular 50k+ viewers is possible . We have to consider the viewers from Korea(deal exclusive to Razer/Twitch AFAIK) and other parts of the world too. We are talking about the legendary Flash live streaming his practice FPVOD for the first time in history, now that's got to mean something every SC fans in the world!

And if he happens to enter GOD MODE in SC2 during this streaming deal...gosh $_$. Just hope Twitch can withstand the bandwidth.

Absolutely zero chance that will happen.
headnut
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium58 Posts
June 28 2013 07:01 GMT
#251
On June 28 2013 06:50 TRaFFiC wrote:
Reading through the replies, everyone seems to think Flash will show something revolutionary. He won't. It's still sc2 and if you watch any of the other Terran gms on twitch, chances are you already know what you're in for. 99% of players couldn't even tell you the difference if they saw his stream next to demuslim's.

People want something new and exciting. That's all.


you forget, that flashs decision making is legendary. thats why i will watch his stream
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
June 28 2013 07:32 GMT
#252
On June 28 2013 16:01 headnut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 06:50 TRaFFiC wrote:
Reading through the replies, everyone seems to think Flash will show something revolutionary. He won't. It's still sc2 and if you watch any of the other Terran gms on twitch, chances are you already know what you're in for. 99% of players couldn't even tell you the difference if they saw his stream next to demuslim's.

People want something new and exciting. That's all.


you forget, that flashs decision making is legendary. thats why i will watch his stream


sc2 is less about decisions more about getting a ball of stuff and figuring out what you want in that ball.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 28 2013 07:35 GMT
#253
I highly doubt that he'll hit close to 50k, but I think it'll definitely be a lot more popular than Jaedong's. Not only because Flash is just a better player than Jaedong, but also because he'll probably stream pretty infrequently, which will draw more viewers the few times he does.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 07:38:00
June 28 2013 07:37 GMT
#254
Don't even expect 20k viewers on twitch the first time. People don't really care about watching really good players play, they would prefer seeing IdrA rage while offracing with Terran in diamond or some shit.
He could reach like 15k the first few times or if he streams only rarely. Not more than 5k if he streams daily.
Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
June 28 2013 09:23 GMT
#255
rethinking this, i am of the opinion that it will be a "flash" (blablapunblabla).
Im sure the very firsts time he will stream, given that there is a proper announcement with "Tune in at (link) at XX EDT YY KST and ZZ CEST" it might very well hit 20 kish upwards because everyone, including doubters/sceptics will tune in.

but afterwards when people calm down, its "just" a really fucking good/fast Terran. The "OMGFLASHSTREAMING" will fade pretty fast...
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
June 28 2013 09:31 GMT
#256
If they announce the stream in advance, I can see easy 20k figures - it might plataeu a bit at around 10k, but I dont think it'll be anywhere near as "low" as Jaedongs numbers.

It will probably settle at 5k or so simply because its just the game, no talking (probably no keyboard cam/player cam) - thats still really good.

Taeja gets a a lot of viewers and he only plays the game (with a few random team games etc)
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
headnut
Profile Joined August 2009
Belgium58 Posts
June 28 2013 10:12 GMT
#257
On June 28 2013 16:32 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 16:01 headnut wrote:
On June 28 2013 06:50 TRaFFiC wrote:
Reading through the replies, everyone seems to think Flash will show something revolutionary. He won't. It's still sc2 and if you watch any of the other Terran gms on twitch, chances are you already know what you're in for. 99% of players couldn't even tell you the difference if they saw his stream next to demuslim's.

People want something new and exciting. That's all.


you forget, that flashs decision making is legendary. thats why i will watch his stream


sc2 is less about decisions more about getting a ball of stuff and figuring out what you want in that ball.


noob...

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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 28 2013 11:15 GMT
#258
Let's be honest, it won't take long before IdrA has more viewers than Flash. Especially if Flash streams regularly enough (at least once a week). I don't see why people expect something radically different from what happened to Jaedong's stream.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
June 28 2013 11:20 GMT
#259
just waiting on my boy bisu now....

but seriously. this news is gonna take a while to sink in. i gtg spam all my friends who care, and then spam all my friends who dont care, to make them care.

this is pretty amazing! 0_0
pvtmomo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany80 Posts
June 28 2013 13:27 GMT
#260
awesome nigger

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