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On June 25 2013 17:50 SiroKO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 15:29 Evil_Sheep wrote:
This is a great interview, made me laugh.
"Do you like TV or movies?" "No."
"Do you like to do anything besides Starcraft?" "Umm...I go for walks."
"How was travelling to America?" "I didn't gain anything."
"But were the fans good?" "I didn't notice them."
"You have a lot of fans, how do you feel about that?" "I don't know."
"So your main goal is to win championships?" "Yes."
"So you must have felt happy when you won your first championship?" "I didn't feel anything."
"Anything you'd like your fans to know about you?" "No."
"Nothing?" "Uhhh..."
"Who do you hang out with?" "Um, mostly Coach Calm."
"You don't say....."
Everyone says he's boring, well what did you expect? To get to that level in starcraft you have to play 12 hours a day, every day of your life, adding up to thousands and thousands of hours of repetitive, monotonous practice. These guys don't have time for girlfriends, they are married to their keyboards. The ones who want to go out drink, party, have girlfriends and have a life, you don't hear about them, and there's a reason.
I'd suspect most sc2 players are pretty "boring" IRL, even the foreigners, it goes with the territory. And Innovation is the best of them all, he's the King of the Nerds, it makes sense that he is the most boring of them all too. Well I hope you're still very young, because if you consider the epitome of cool to be "drinking, partying and occasionaly having sex" passed 20, I guess you must be pretty boring too.
I never said drinking, partying and sex are the epitome of cool. Not that I find anything wrong with that  Simply that Innovation's life appears to be single-mindedly focused on one objective, which is playing and winning at Starcraft to the exclusion of most everything else.
By most people's standards, including my own, that is quite a dull life. But please don't think I'm judging Innovation. I respect him for his choices, I respect him for the success he's had and the ridiculous ease with which he stomps nerds into the ground who also play 12 hours a day. I respect the way that he plays terran at 500APM, multitasking 10 things at once in a way I could never hope to emulate to be quite remarkable. I merely find the total lack of irony in the monotony of his responses make him such a poor interview that it actually becomes quite funny.
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Interesting questions, but boring answers xd
Bogus has not the charism of formers BW champions.
Thank you for the interview and the translation !
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I don't mind his attitude but players like Firebathero is of course a lot more fun
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I like watching his games but still losing a game after a 3:0 lead is not very robot like.
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the more i think about this, the more i feel like it should be obvious that such a great player doesn't really have time to do anything except play starcraft, eat, think about starcraft, talk about starcraft, and sleep. but even so, and no matter how much i love starcraft, i can't imagine living like that. this actually makes me feel bad for all the guys that train as much as Innovation. i mean, sure, he gets a lot of money and fame and respect (well, considering he's in e-sports), but that gotta be dull as hell. imagine just staring at your computer literally _all day_ _every day_. and it's more than that, you HAVE to do it because otherwise you're gonna be out of a job, or at least your skill will decrease and your coach will not be happy with you.
living like this just cannot be healthy. professional athletes don't train 12 hours every day, why do starcraft players?
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He's probably the best player in the world, so ofc ill watch, but in all honesty wouldn't care too much about meeting him 
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On June 25 2013 17:48 Evil_Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 16:38 GolemMadness wrote:On June 25 2013 15:29 Evil_Sheep wrote:
This is a great interview, made me laugh.
"Do you like TV or movies?" "No."
"Do you like to do anything besides Starcraft?" "Umm...I go for walks."
"How was travelling to America?" "I didn't gain anything."
"But were the fans good?" "I didn't notice them."
"You have a lot of fans, how do you feel about that?" "I don't know."
"So your main goal is to win championships?" "Yes."
"So you must have felt happy when you won your first championship?" "I didn't feel anything."
"Anything you'd like your fans to know about you?" "No."
"Nothing?" "Uhhh..."
"Who do you hang out with?" "Um, mostly Coach Calm."
"You don't say....."
Everyone says he's boring, well what did you expect? To get to that level in starcraft you have to play 12 hours a day, every day of your life, adding up to thousands and thousands of hours of repetitive, monotonous practice. These guys don't have time for girlfriends, they are married to their keyboards. The ones who want to go out drink, party, have girlfriends and have a life, you don't hear about them, and there's a reason.
I'd suspect most sc2 players are pretty "boring" IRL, even the foreigners, it goes with the territory. And Innovation is the best of them all, he's the King of the Nerds, it makes sense that he is the most boring of them all too. It makes no sense to say that all players are boring because of their profession when people are calling Innovation boring compared to any other player. I did not say all players, but I'd note that those two statements do not contradict one another either.
All Kespa players practice 10+ hours a day, and probably most ESF players do as well. If you say that they're boring because of the amount of practice they do and how little time they have for anything else, then you're essentially saying that they're all boring. Other top player's interviews are often interesting, and they practice just as much as Innovation.
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He's a really good player but next time someone interviews him they should see if he can pass the Voight-Kampff test.
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On June 25 2013 18:46 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 17:48 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 25 2013 16:38 GolemMadness wrote:On June 25 2013 15:29 Evil_Sheep wrote:
This is a great interview, made me laugh.
"Do you like TV or movies?" "No."
"Do you like to do anything besides Starcraft?" "Umm...I go for walks."
"How was travelling to America?" "I didn't gain anything."
"But were the fans good?" "I didn't notice them."
"You have a lot of fans, how do you feel about that?" "I don't know."
"So your main goal is to win championships?" "Yes."
"So you must have felt happy when you won your first championship?" "I didn't feel anything."
"Anything you'd like your fans to know about you?" "No."
"Nothing?" "Uhhh..."
"Who do you hang out with?" "Um, mostly Coach Calm."
"You don't say....."
Everyone says he's boring, well what did you expect? To get to that level in starcraft you have to play 12 hours a day, every day of your life, adding up to thousands and thousands of hours of repetitive, monotonous practice. These guys don't have time for girlfriends, they are married to their keyboards. The ones who want to go out drink, party, have girlfriends and have a life, you don't hear about them, and there's a reason.
I'd suspect most sc2 players are pretty "boring" IRL, even the foreigners, it goes with the territory. And Innovation is the best of them all, he's the King of the Nerds, it makes sense that he is the most boring of them all too. It makes no sense to say that all players are boring because of their profession when people are calling Innovation boring compared to any other player. I did not say all players, but I'd note that those two statements do not contradict one another either. All Kespa players practice 10+ hours a day, and probably most ESF players do as well. If you say that they're boring because of the amount of practice they do and how little time they have for anything else, then you're essentially saying that they're all boring. Other top player's interviews are often interesting, and they practice just as much as Innovation.
The problem is bigger with innovation: even his starcraft is ultra standard and reflects his "boringness": purely mechanical. The guy could be a robot, as far as we know. Don't get me wrong, he is really good, and the amount of dedication he puts in the game is awesome, but even if he had more time, I'm pretty sure he would have a boring life. A good thing for him he went into starcraft because it allows him to at least do something interesting and appear somewhere.
A lot of very good progamer are way more interesting as persons, but they are often older, with more confidence in themselves, allowing them to develop a "starcraft personality". I'm pretty sure Flash is an interesting person. So much exposure and thought put into it have to forge a personality. But Innovation have been a tier 2 player for so long, and a top tier player for only a few month, so he haven't been able to develop a front figure personality yet. And I'm not sure he will, seeing how he seems not to care. But look at some players like MC, who have a clear, distinct personality, while still having practised all day long and dedicated to their careers.
There is a ton of players that aren't that boring. But you're probably right, boring goes well with mechanically perfect. Progamers with an interesting personality are more often the more stylistic ones.
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On June 25 2013 18:46 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 17:48 Evil_Sheep wrote:On June 25 2013 16:38 GolemMadness wrote:On June 25 2013 15:29 Evil_Sheep wrote:
This is a great interview, made me laugh.
"Do you like TV or movies?" "No."
"Do you like to do anything besides Starcraft?" "Umm...I go for walks."
"How was travelling to America?" "I didn't gain anything."
"But were the fans good?" "I didn't notice them."
"You have a lot of fans, how do you feel about that?" "I don't know."
"So your main goal is to win championships?" "Yes."
"So you must have felt happy when you won your first championship?" "I didn't feel anything."
"Anything you'd like your fans to know about you?" "No."
"Nothing?" "Uhhh..."
"Who do you hang out with?" "Um, mostly Coach Calm."
"You don't say....."
Everyone says he's boring, well what did you expect? To get to that level in starcraft you have to play 12 hours a day, every day of your life, adding up to thousands and thousands of hours of repetitive, monotonous practice. These guys don't have time for girlfriends, they are married to their keyboards. The ones who want to go out drink, party, have girlfriends and have a life, you don't hear about them, and there's a reason.
I'd suspect most sc2 players are pretty "boring" IRL, even the foreigners, it goes with the territory. And Innovation is the best of them all, he's the King of the Nerds, it makes sense that he is the most boring of them all too. It makes no sense to say that all players are boring because of their profession when people are calling Innovation boring compared to any other player. I did not say all players, but I'd note that those two statements do not contradict one another either. All Kespa players practice 10+ hours a day, and probably most ESF players do as well. If you say that they're boring because of the amount of practice they do and how little time they have for anything else, then you're essentially saying that they're all boring. Other top player's interviews are often interesting, and they practice just as much as Innovation.
Yes, I would (and did) say most top players are boring interviews, and tend to repeat the same things over and over again, particularly Koreans. But there are exceptions, and I would note you don't have to be an interesting person to say something interesting. Personally I don't follow Starcraft for its rather quiet, reserved personalities and I don't really give a damn if they are boring people or not. It just tickles me to read an interview from a stone-cold killer like Innovation who takes the "Korean robot" cliche virtually to an artform.
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I don't want to criticize his choices, but I just wonder what this guy will do when his career necessarily begins to decline, he seems to have no other interest in life other than being the best starcraft player in the world.
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On June 25 2013 03:05 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:sOs mentioned that he checks out community forums in between games to see what people are saying. Do you do that too?I don't really read the forums that much. I don't think I have anything to gain from reading people's reactions to me. Isn't it nice though, to read praise when you've played a good game?It does feel good, but I don't think that will help me in terms of playing the game itself. </div></div><div id="Newsfooter"> Interview: Waxangel
Graphics: shiroiusagi
Photos: GomTV and Silverfire
Editor: Waxangel
Special Thanks: Blizzard Korea and Jeong Seung Hyun </div>
Take that TL forumers, lol.
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The guy is a hero. You'd figure his play would come off as more innovative, for lack of a better word, given his isolated nature. I'm surprised more of the top players aren't like him. I'm more of a fan of him than before, although I always loved his prior interviews and humble nature. Too many pros are too cocky when they have won. And a lot of the cocky pros end up becoming just another Korean, and their personality is probably a part of it.
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On June 25 2013 20:27 Rammstorm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 03:05 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:sOs mentioned that he checks out community forums in between games to see what people are saying. Do you do that too?I don't really read the forums that much. I don't think I have anything to gain from reading people's reactions to me. Isn't it nice though, to read praise when you've played a good game?It does feel good, but I don't think that will help me in terms of playing the game itself. </div></div><div id="Newsfooter"> Interview: Waxangel
Graphics: shiroiusagi
Photos: GomTV and Silverfire
Editor: Waxangel
Special Thanks: Blizzard Korea and Jeong Seung Hyun </div> Take that TL forumers, lol.
Probably his English is not that good to follow a forum like TL and he is in a state that he wouldn't gain anything reading the actual forum itself even if it would be a Korean. I don't blame him for not following community forums rather playing games.
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Bogus is the true alphamale, he simply does not care about the profane life of others and his only determination is to crush nerds.
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I kinda like how he doesn't care about fans and is focused on his play. No fake "I want to thank my fans, I will practice even harder to show better results for you."
I don't think it's cockiness either. He just doesn't want to pretend.
There were some really interesting tidbits there too, like his comments on the GSL final or why it's harder to stop all-ins in televised games than in practice.
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This kinda attitude might be dissapointing for a spectator. But if you are a competitor, this scares you. Like a Stephano but with extreme work ethics.
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I haven't watched a game of him in the past months, but from this interview, I can say that he is boring and a bit cocky, but hey.. PartinG is PartinG.
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On June 25 2013 07:41 Vanadium wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 06:50 sd_andeh wrote:On June 25 2013 06:31 Vanadium wrote:
Cool interview, guy's a robot :D
I like Innovation mostly for his play, so I can't say I'll cheer for him much in the future if his skill level drops, unlike say, Beesuit.
Also, such a contrast with Soulkey, who, at least for me, got a lot of brownie points after his interviews with Chobra and Daypollo. Is there any video of that? The Soulkey interviews, I mean? Found 'em :D Soulkey Interviews with Chobra, Day[9], and Apollo: Day 2: http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/b/414006806?t=105m42s&initial_time=6342Day 3: http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_osl/b/414479387?t=291m51s&initial_time=17511They are quite lengthy and a bit silly. Also, Day 2 interview also takes place during the Alicia v sOs game.
I gotta say, Chobra is the absolute best translator I ever saw.
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also, maybe he has some sort of social phobia or disorder or something :l
honestly, it's not very normal for someone to complete neglect every other aspect of life in order to become the best at one thing. Sure, he's an amazing starcraft player, but besides that, what does he do? He goes on walks? Don't you guys think that's at least a little sad?
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