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doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
June 22 2013 10:23 GMT
#81
On June 22 2013 16:41 Daswollvieh wrote:
So many nerds will dream of Asian women with their traditional values, cooking for you and playing games with you. Jaedong´s girl is just the beginning.


It's nicer to cook WITH your lady-friend, no? :D
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
June 22 2013 10:44 GMT
#82
Hot & honest.

I like that in sc2, there is always a neutral referee. Unless we allow them to use maphacks / Like most beautiful singers use autotune, sing playback etc... The extra attention they get for their looks only will get them so far. The rest is hard work. And the bonus she gets: being on a team like prime without any qualifications whatsoever, I think she pays back, as I could image a gorgeous lady helps motivating team mates a lot.

Best of Luck, next tossgirl inc?
iMAniaC
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway703 Posts
June 22 2013 10:53 GMT
#83
She seems really dedicated. I hope she gets to compete one day.

I don't think I agree on not competing until you've "proven yourself", though. On one hand, I realize that it's a waste of one's own time to get completely stomped in a tournament, as well as an unfair advantage to one's opponent if all the other players have a hard time beating their opponents. On the other hand, it's nice to cheer at your favourite players in tournaments and not just know that they're "proving themselves" somewhere... Moreover, it really re-inforces the "mascot view" if a female player gets signed, but never even tries to qualify for a tournament. Of course, I'm sure there are loads of guys who are signed and are too busy "proving themselves" to compete in tournament, so it's a kind of unfair thing to note, but nonetheless, the sheer under-representedness of females in tournaments reinforces this effect.

I imagine that it would also be nice for female viewers and gamers to have more than one active female progamer to look up to, but it's kind of hard when they're all at home "proving themselves" instead of being out there competing. Of course, it's really unfair to indicate that it's the responsibility of any female gamer to try to get more female gamers interested in competing, but I don't think it's unfair to note how the overall picture currently looks like and speculate what kind of effect that has on other potential female progamers.

Overall, I think that both the female players and the community get more than they lose by trying to qualify, even though they fail or haven't "proven themselves" first. For one thing, it creates storylines. Just think about ToD who tried to qualify for GSL so many times and how awesome his storyline would have been if he had managed to get into code A. Even without ever qualifying, there's a storyline there. Or think back to ret's runs in the Courage tournaments in Brood War. He didn't qualify, but we remember it because there was a storyline there and it's a part of ret as a progamer. However, there's no storyline of interest with "proving oneself" through laddering or in a team house. Moreover, playing in tournaments might encourage more female gamers to go pro and I think closing the gap in the the male/female ratio of progamers is a good thing. Lastly, there's not that much time wasted in a failed attempt, and this is especially true for online tournaments, such as the qualifiers for WCS. If one really thinks that everyone else is so much better, then it should take less than an hour to get eliminated. I'd say the tiny bit of storyline and the visibility of female progamers is worth more than the discomfort of being stomped in a qualifier. And who knows, perhaps there won't even be any stomping and one manages to advance in the qualifiers.

This turned out as a longer post than I had imagined, focusing only on a single thing she said, but it's been on my mind for a while. It just boggles my mind that there are so many online qualifiers in which there are a bunch of pros and a bunch of unknowns (presumably guys), but not a single known female gamer. Why not even try every now and then? All that being said, I know that there are active female progamers out there, but I'd love to see them compete more and I think it would be a good thing overall for the scene, although I certainly don't want to force anyone to compete if they don't want to.

On June 22 2013 16:54 Prugelhugel wrote:
Blizzard should really do some market research on how to get girls into SC2 with LotV.
This could be the killing blow in esports, I mean it is so male dominated, there must be such a huge uncovered segment of possible viewers in form of females.


Actually, quite a few of the female progamers have mentioned that they got into competing via the female-only tournaments. They did it just for fun and then realized it was actually fun and wanted to compete in other tournaments as well. I think that's really a niche that's been left open and that could potentially do a lot for the male/female ratio, especially now that we have global play. I'd love to see a prestigious female-only open tournament held in such a way that everyone would be able to compete without time-zones, regions or other obstacles getting in the way.

It may also be that an improved social element in the tournament may attract more female gamers, so that the tournament itself is a social event instead of just a lonely run through the brackets, but that's just speculation on my part. Perhaps 2v2 tournaments would be the way to lure female gamers into competing?
ZerGGling
Profile Joined November 2012
26 Posts
June 24 2013 14:35 GMT
#84
Chase your dreams!
Who the hell do you think I am?!; Go beyond the impossible and kick reason to the curb! (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann)
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
June 24 2013 14:40 GMT
#85
While she is not GSL/GSTL competing material(yet)

she is quite the marketable player for obvious reasons.

Good for TTesports and Prime!
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
June 24 2013 14:42 GMT
#86
Dang yo... if she's Creator's mentor and practicing 12 hrs we should see her compete soon! :D gogo
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
June 24 2013 15:23 GMT
#87
On June 24 2013 23:42 ROOTheognis wrote:
Dang yo... if she's Creator's mentor and practicing 12 hrs we should see her compete soon! :D gogo


Isn't it the other way around? I thought Creator is the one teaching her how to play protoss :p
Although I'm not sure a player who is slumping hard is great as a mentor.. =( Hopefully Creator gets back his WoL mojo back soon.
Vanimar
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
220 Posts
June 24 2013 15:40 GMT
#88
Although I definately embrace the equality in male and female gamers (and as such resent the idea of seperate leagues and such), I still feel that she is being the "girl" in the house.
I mean she talks a lot about cooking food and their favourite food...
That just seems so stereotypical to me. I really hope that in the future some female gamers with the attitude and desire will eventually compete on equal ground.
The reason I resent tournaments with only female participants is, that I do not see the need for it. Wile in sports due to physical advantages sexes are sepparated, I do not see the necessity in E-sports. Well, unless someone went ahead and presented actual data which shows a genetic superiority for men. But I do not see that happening.

So in the end what I'm trying to say is, that although female gamers are certainly needed, they should not get "special treatment", special cups or anything. They have the capabilities to compete on equal grounds as their male counterparts.
Maybe it's just me, but I really really like the idea of SC2 as a place of total equality no matter of gender, looks... etc. All that matters is training, dedication and talent.
I figured out the EG Curse. It was set in motion by Voodoo Shamans working for Millenium. Whenever EG aquires a player, Voodoo energies start slowly draining skill from the EG guy into an Millenium newcomer. Think about it!
Growiel
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)363 Posts
June 24 2013 16:11 GMT
#89
On June 25 2013 00:40 Vanimar wrote:
Although I definately embrace the equality in male and female gamers (and as such resent the idea of seperate leagues and such), I still feel that she is being the "girl" in the house.
I mean she talks a lot about cooking food and their favourite food...
That just seems so stereotypical to me. I really hope that in the future some female gamers with the attitude and desire will eventually compete on equal ground.


This is mostly due to how it works in Korea. She's older than them she "has" to take care of them as their 누나 (Nuna, big sister). If she was a dude, she would probably buy most of their food, or cook it if he enjoys cooking.
StarCraft II for ever.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44241 Posts
June 24 2013 17:17 GMT
#90
i dont any girl pro gamer can be as good as scarlett ..
this is a quote
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 24 2013 17:22 GMT
#91
On June 25 2013 02:17 goody153 wrote:
i dont any girl pro gamer can be as good as scarlett ..

in fact, they can become much better. girls in theory can become the best players ever, it's not like they're lacking physical strength or anything similar. it's just that there are not enough girls playing and usually they don't spend as much time trying to get better.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
June 24 2013 17:28 GMT
#92
i wish there were more female players out there to break the stereotype that girls are bad at gaming.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3484 Posts
June 24 2013 17:36 GMT
#93
I've dreamt that I beat MvP in TvT on Tal'darim Altar, even though I'm a Protoss player :D
Nice interview.
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
TrollPolice
Profile Joined May 2013
44 Posts
June 24 2013 17:44 GMT
#94
"barbie" lol
Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
June 24 2013 18:09 GMT
#95
On June 25 2013 02:28 29 fps wrote:
i wish there were more female players out there to break the stereotype that girls are bad at gaming.


me too but lets face it, it is hard to picture a female devoting much time to gaming for any length of time.
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
June 24 2013 21:44 GMT
#96
She's very hot

Also, a girl playing SC2 all the time that also likes to play football and cook food? Seems like a dream to me hehe
EpicDemente
Profile Joined November 2012
Chile202 Posts
June 24 2013 22:39 GMT
#97
Really nice interview right there, she is a real woman in the business and a very passionate player, i hope she achieves great things
"Fight your heart out for what you want"
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
June 24 2013 22:45 GMT
#98
Sexist comments and strange debates aside, I think Barbie is a really cool person to look up to even though I'm not a girl, because she did what she really wanted to and she works really hard, and that has made her happy. I really hope we will get to a point where there are enough good girls in sc2 to stop being sexist and assuming they are not as good of players, because right now I think a lot of people would say that Eve and Aphrodite and Barbie aren't playing because they just aren't good enough, being girls. I totally disagree, but there are people out there who say that. So like I said I hope that Barbie is another role player in the advancement of female sc2. BarbiePrime Fighting!
Writer#1 CJ fan | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/508947-wcs-dreamhack-austin-interviews
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
June 24 2013 22:53 GMT
#99
Call me crazy, but I don't find this interview and herself to be very inspiring, despite what the topic title says. She was able to join a pro-team (due to connections/dating Gerrard). Her mother wasn't supportive of her idea of becoming a pro-gamer, yes, but her father totally supports her which is more than enough. Doesn't sound like much of a struggle to me.
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
June 24 2013 23:19 GMT
#100
having a supportive parent/s is always good!
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