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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
On June 22 2013 16:41 Daswollvieh wrote: So many nerds will dream of Asian women with their traditional values, cooking for you and playing games with you.  Jaedong´s girl is just the beginning.It's nicer to cook WITH your lady-friend, no? :D | ||
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HaRuHi
1220 Posts
I like that in sc2, there is always a neutral referee. Unless we allow them to use maphacks / Like most beautiful singers use autotune, sing playback etc... The extra attention they get for their looks only will get them so far. The rest is hard work. And the bonus she gets: being on a team like prime without any qualifications whatsoever, I think she pays back, as I could image a gorgeous lady helps motivating team mates a lot. Best of Luck, next tossgirl inc? | ||
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iMAniaC
Norway703 Posts
I don't think I agree on not competing until you've "proven yourself", though. On one hand, I realize that it's a waste of one's own time to get completely stomped in a tournament, as well as an unfair advantage to one's opponent if all the other players have a hard time beating their opponents. On the other hand, it's nice to cheer at your favourite players in tournaments and not just know that they're "proving themselves" somewhere... Moreover, it really re-inforces the "mascot view" if a female player gets signed, but never even tries to qualify for a tournament. Of course, I'm sure there are loads of guys who are signed and are too busy "proving themselves" to compete in tournament, so it's a kind of unfair thing to note, but nonetheless, the sheer under-representedness of females in tournaments reinforces this effect. I imagine that it would also be nice for female viewers and gamers to have more than one active female progamer to look up to, but it's kind of hard when they're all at home "proving themselves" instead of being out there competing. Of course, it's really unfair to indicate that it's the responsibility of any female gamer to try to get more female gamers interested in competing, but I don't think it's unfair to note how the overall picture currently looks like and speculate what kind of effect that has on other potential female progamers. Overall, I think that both the female players and the community get more than they lose by trying to qualify, even though they fail or haven't "proven themselves" first. For one thing, it creates storylines. Just think about ToD who tried to qualify for GSL so many times and how awesome his storyline would have been if he had managed to get into code A. Even without ever qualifying, there's a storyline there. Or think back to ret's runs in the Courage tournaments in Brood War. He didn't qualify, but we remember it because there was a storyline there and it's a part of ret as a progamer. However, there's no storyline of interest with "proving oneself" through laddering or in a team house. Moreover, playing in tournaments might encourage more female gamers to go pro and I think closing the gap in the the male/female ratio of progamers is a good thing. Lastly, there's not that much time wasted in a failed attempt, and this is especially true for online tournaments, such as the qualifiers for WCS. If one really thinks that everyone else is so much better, then it should take less than an hour to get eliminated. I'd say the tiny bit of storyline and the visibility of female progamers is worth more than the discomfort of being stomped in a qualifier. And who knows, perhaps there won't even be any stomping and one manages to advance in the qualifiers. This turned out as a longer post than I had imagined, focusing only on a single thing she said, but it's been on my mind for a while. It just boggles my mind that there are so many online qualifiers in which there are a bunch of pros and a bunch of unknowns (presumably guys), but not a single known female gamer. Why not even try every now and then? All that being said, I know that there are active female progamers out there, but I'd love to see them compete more and I think it would be a good thing overall for the scene, although I certainly don't want to force anyone to compete if they don't want to. On June 22 2013 16:54 Prugelhugel wrote: Blizzard should really do some market research on how to get girls into SC2 with LotV. This could be the killing blow in esports, I mean it is so male dominated, there must be such a huge uncovered segment of possible viewers in form of females. Actually, quite a few of the female progamers have mentioned that they got into competing via the female-only tournaments. They did it just for fun and then realized it was actually fun and wanted to compete in other tournaments as well. I think that's really a niche that's been left open and that could potentially do a lot for the male/female ratio, especially now that we have global play. I'd love to see a prestigious female-only open tournament held in such a way that everyone would be able to compete without time-zones, regions or other obstacles getting in the way. It may also be that an improved social element in the tournament may attract more female gamers, so that the tournament itself is a social event instead of just a lonely run through the brackets, but that's just speculation on my part. Perhaps 2v2 tournaments would be the way to lure female gamers into competing? | ||
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ZerGGling
26 Posts
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Eggi
478 Posts
she is quite the marketable player for obvious reasons. Good for TTesports and Prime! | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong748 Posts
On June 24 2013 23:42 ROOTheognis wrote: Dang yo... if she's Creator's mentor and practicing 12 hrs we should see her compete soon! :D gogo Isn't it the other way around? I thought Creator is the one teaching her how to play protoss :p Although I'm not sure a player who is slumping hard is great as a mentor.. =( Hopefully Creator gets back his WoL mojo back soon. | ||
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Vanimar
220 Posts
I mean she talks a lot about cooking food and their favourite food... That just seems so stereotypical to me. I really hope that in the future some female gamers with the attitude and desire will eventually compete on equal ground. The reason I resent tournaments with only female participants is, that I do not see the need for it. Wile in sports due to physical advantages sexes are sepparated, I do not see the necessity in E-sports. Well, unless someone went ahead and presented actual data which shows a genetic superiority for men. But I do not see that happening. So in the end what I'm trying to say is, that although female gamers are certainly needed, they should not get "special treatment", special cups or anything. They have the capabilities to compete on equal grounds as their male counterparts. Maybe it's just me, but I really really like the idea of SC2 as a place of total equality no matter of gender, looks... etc. All that matters is training, dedication and talent. | ||
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Growiel
Korea (South)363 Posts
On June 25 2013 00:40 Vanimar wrote: Although I definately embrace the equality in male and female gamers (and as such resent the idea of seperate leagues and such), I still feel that she is being the "girl" in the house. I mean she talks a lot about cooking food and their favourite food... That just seems so stereotypical to me. I really hope that in the future some female gamers with the attitude and desire will eventually compete on equal ground. This is mostly due to how it works in Korea. She's older than them she "has" to take care of them as their 누나 (Nuna, big sister). If she was a dude, she would probably buy most of their food, or cook it if he enjoys cooking. | ||
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goody153
44285 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On June 25 2013 02:17 goody153 wrote: i dont any girl pro gamer can be as good as scarlett .. in fact, they can become much better. girls in theory can become the best players ever, it's not like they're lacking physical strength or anything similar. it's just that there are not enough girls playing and usually they don't spend as much time trying to get better. | ||
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3533 Posts
Nice interview. | ||
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TrollPolice
44 Posts
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Chrono000
Korea (South)358 Posts
On June 25 2013 02:28 29 fps wrote: i wish there were more female players out there to break the stereotype that girls are bad at gaming. me too but lets face it, it is hard to picture a female devoting much time to gaming for any length of time. | ||
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THM
Bulgaria1131 Posts
 Also, a girl playing SC2 all the time that also likes to play football and cook food? Seems like a dream to me hehe | ||
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EpicDemente
Chile202 Posts
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banjoetheredskin
United States744 Posts
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
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WetSocks
United States953 Posts
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