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Some disappointments, some good choices. About what I expected.
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On June 07 2013 11:38 Peas wrote:
To all of you bashing Tasteless, and in general the casters who provide colour to a cast (as opposed to analysis)... go watch the Artosis solo job of the WCS finals. Its so drab and uninviting...and really reinforces the importance of an "entertaining side-kick". The analytical caster needs someone to feed off, just as much as the fans need someone knowledgeable to listen to.
Really agree with this. It might just be the games but Artosis seems really boring by himself although his analysis is still good.
On the contrary, when Axslav did the solo cast of Suppy vs Heart in WCS America, he was amazing partly because the games were amazing. He was getting excited while also maintaining great analysis.
Again, this could just be because of the difference in games but I agree with Peas stating we need the color analysis along with the analysis everyone loves. Stop the tasteless axeltoss hate!
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I really think that they should include IdrA as a caster. From watching ShoutCraft, I think IdrA has some of the best analysis for StarCraft 2.
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On June 07 2013 04:28 TheKefka wrote:
Here's a tastless cast for you:
Before the game starts artosis talks about what the player has done so far and what he might do,tastless nods his head and agrees,says some generic stuff about how good the player is
Game starts,artosis talks about the map and strategy,tastless agrees says more generic stuff,inserts a joke that stopped being funny in 2011 when he used it for the 100th time.
Depending on how the game goes he says the following in between when Artosis needs a breather:
"Well guys I don't know what to say this is more onesided than a mobius strip"
"Expect gg and second"
"OH MYYY GOOD THIS IS SO TENSE ARTOSIS"
"THIS ONE OF THE BEST GAMES I HAVE EVER SEEN"
Sadly this is quite accurate. But i think you're wrong, Artosis has been to some events by himself, he doesn't require Tasteless to come along. Tasteless however is smart enough to only attend a event alongside Artosis.
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On June 07 2013 02:48 itsjustatank wrote:not all of them cast at the same time
Some people don't know how terrible it is to cast by yourself or just with 2 for like 8-12 hours apparently. And multiple days in a row of that?
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On June 07 2013 05:23 testthewest wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 05:00 DrPandaPhD wrote:On June 07 2013 04:40 Emzeeshady wrote:On June 07 2013 04:37 TheKefka wrote:On June 07 2013 04:33 Plansix wrote:On June 07 2013 04:28 TheKefka wrote:On June 07 2013 03:50 SupLilSon wrote:On June 07 2013 03:12 TheKefka wrote:On June 07 2013 03:08 NovemberstOrm wrote:On June 07 2013 03:03 TheKefka wrote:
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Who would you like?
artosis is insanely expensive and comes with tastless who is the shittiest caster out there anyway.
apollo needs to be flown in as well
all these guys have in common is that they are all currently in the US and MLG needs to cut costs where they can i guess.
still a pretty good lineup
What I'm surprised about is that they took DjWheat over Husky,I'm guessing it's a money thing as well. You're funny. not really it's the truth The truth? I can name 5 casters off the top of my head who are worse than Tasteless but I'll keep my opinion to myself. That's all you have, your opinion, nothing truthful about that. Like who?All the casters out there right now actually play the game.Tastless does not play stacraft 2 and you can hear it from his casts.There was a time during 2012 where he actually tried to better his cast and started playing again and you can actually hear from what he is talking about that he knows what's going on,but that was a pretty short period. Here's a tastless cast for you: Before the game starts artosis talks about what the player has done so far and what he might do,tastless nods his head and agrees,says some generic stuff about how good the player is Game starts,artosis talks about the map and strategy,tastless agrees says more generic stuff,inserts a joke that stopped being funny in 2011 when he used it for the 100th time. Depending on how the game goes he says the following in between when Artosis needs a breather: "Well guys I don't know what to say this is more onesided than a mobius strip" "Expect gg and second" "THIS ONE OF THE BEST GAMES I HAVE EVER SEEN" Tastless was a awesome brood war caster,because guess,what he loved brood war.You can't tell me that the tastless that's currently casting plays sc2,there is no way.If you would replace tastless with a sound board with his generic phrases there would be literally no difference for the audience. FYI, this guy really doesn't like Tasteless. Like a lot. You can tell he watches all of Tasteless's casts just to be sure Tasteless is no longer plays SC2 and is the worst caster ever. He has to be sure. Every cast, every time, every word. ? I have nothing against tasteless I'm just saying his casting is shit. It has improved a lot since the end of last year. He doesn't say that much stupid stuff anymore and he is really god at creating excitement. Anyway, I am disappointed my 3 favourite casters are not there but this lineup seems ok. Saying that Innovation is the best RTS player of all time is absurd though. He has not even won a tournament yet. I get that Tasteless want to create hype, but every single big-name caster in this business has managed to create hype without telling outrageous lies. He overhyped it to a point it was bothering more than it was hyping, which is where he kinda failed. Another thing Tasteless is supposed to do is to attract new viewers. Well I got some new viewers to watch some StarCraft and Tasteless said "you are awesome nerds" "xyz nerds" like 10 times in 5 minutes which bothered them to not watch it anymore. Personally I don't mind being called a nerd because I am. But if his only job to get new viewers to watch he failed that miserably. I don't mind Tasteless casting itself. But my relation to his casting is bad atm because he has failed at the things he was supposed to do. Yeah, the obsession with the word "nerd" is too much. Perhaps he underestimates how many non-nerds are watching. Just imagine a football commentator would call the viewers hooligans or ultras all the time. That would be funny for about 5 seconds, then he would be fired.
one guys hate is another guys love. I find the overusage of the word nerd amusing!
On June 07 2013 11:38 Peas wrote:
To all of you bashing Tasteless, and in general the casters who provide colour to a cast (as opposed to analysis)... go watch the Artosis solo job of the WCS finals. Its so drab and uninviting...and really reinforces the importance of an "entertaining side-kick". The analytical caster needs someone to feed off, just as much as the fans need someone knowledgeable to listen to.
Again, I find artosis solocasting for todays matches highly entertainable.
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On June 07 2013 20:42 NEEDZMOAR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 05:23 testthewest wrote:On June 07 2013 05:00 DrPandaPhD wrote:On June 07 2013 04:40 Emzeeshady wrote:On June 07 2013 04:37 TheKefka wrote:On June 07 2013 04:33 Plansix wrote:On June 07 2013 04:28 TheKefka wrote:On June 07 2013 03:50 SupLilSon wrote:On June 07 2013 03:12 TheKefka wrote:On June 07 2013 03:08 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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You're funny. not really it's the truth The truth? I can name 5 casters off the top of my head who are worse than Tasteless but I'll keep my opinion to myself. That's all you have, your opinion, nothing truthful about that. Like who?All the casters out there right now actually play the game.Tastless does not play stacraft 2 and you can hear it from his casts.There was a time during 2012 where he actually tried to better his cast and started playing again and you can actually hear from what he is talking about that he knows what's going on,but that was a pretty short period. Here's a tastless cast for you: Before the game starts artosis talks about what the player has done so far and what he might do,tastless nods his head and agrees,says some generic stuff about how good the player is Game starts,artosis talks about the map and strategy,tastless agrees says more generic stuff,inserts a joke that stopped being funny in 2011 when he used it for the 100th time. Depending on how the game goes he says the following in between when Artosis needs a breather: "Well guys I don't know what to say this is more onesided than a mobius strip" "Expect gg and second" "THIS ONE OF THE BEST GAMES I HAVE EVER SEEN" Tastless was a awesome brood war caster,because guess,what he loved brood war.You can't tell me that the tastless that's currently casting plays sc2,there is no way.If you would replace tastless with a sound board with his generic phrases there would be literally no difference for the audience. FYI, this guy really doesn't like Tasteless. Like a lot. You can tell he watches all of Tasteless's casts just to be sure Tasteless is no longer plays SC2 and is the worst caster ever. He has to be sure. Every cast, every time, every word. ? I have nothing against tasteless I'm just saying his casting is shit. It has improved a lot since the end of last year. He doesn't say that much stupid stuff anymore and he is really god at creating excitement. Anyway, I am disappointed my 3 favourite casters are not there but this lineup seems ok. Saying that Innovation is the best RTS player of all time is absurd though. He has not even won a tournament yet. I get that Tasteless want to create hype, but every single big-name caster in this business has managed to create hype without telling outrageous lies. He overhyped it to a point it was bothering more than it was hyping, which is where he kinda failed. Another thing Tasteless is supposed to do is to attract new viewers. Well I got some new viewers to watch some StarCraft and Tasteless said "you are awesome nerds" "xyz nerds" like 10 times in 5 minutes which bothered them to not watch it anymore. Personally I don't mind being called a nerd because I am. But if his only job to get new viewers to watch he failed that miserably. I don't mind Tasteless casting itself. But my relation to his casting is bad atm because he has failed at the things he was supposed to do. Yeah, the obsession with the word "nerd" is too much. Perhaps he underestimates how many non-nerds are watching. Just imagine a football commentator would call the viewers hooligans or ultras all the time. That would be funny for about 5 seconds, then he would be fired. one guys hate is another guys love. I find the overusage of the word nerd amusing!
We use the word "dork" where I am from as a term of endearment. Just this week someone said I was "super dorky" and I replied that it was just another term for "majestic". Nerd is the same way, its easier to own it than to fight against it.
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Not the best line up imo, would've liked to see husky and incontrol in there who I rate much higher wheat. I don't particularly Axeltoss either but he is one of MLG's full time casters so he sort of has to be in the line up, Sucks that the whole single stream thing limits the amount of casters so much. Also no Apollo :O ;(
Hopefully I get to see incontrol and apollo at DH!
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On June 07 2013 04:48 NEEDZMOAR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 02:59 Lumi wrote:I am not impressed. The standard for casters at MLG was dropped a along time ago now, and it has just stayed there. This is a nice line-up of personalities.. but the analytical side is immensely lacking. It's just axslav, really. I've grown more and more fond of him over time.. and he has improved. But as a decent player, I don't want to listen to this crew blowing excitement up my butt via a sheer sensory experience, and hype words. Le sigh. This scene's big tournaments aren't what they used to be  To be fair, if you are a decent player you should be able to analyze the game yourself while watching (at least to some extent). Personally Ive come to enjoy playbyplay casters more and more, GOGO MLG!
This! Analytical casting is very overrated if it doesn't come with the ability to be a good caster overall. I don't think I have ever learned anything from an analytical caster anyway so I much prefer other qualities in casters (excitment, entertainment articulation etc). Being able to do a good analysis is definitely not a negative, it's just not a high priority to me.
Nice caster line up! I like that it's not just the same casters everywhere over and over again.
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On June 07 2013 02:48 Pinski wrote:
5 casters, 1 stream? Wait, what?
of course they will be in rotation lol. not too excited about day9 anymore, but TB and Axeltoss, fuck yeah!
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On June 07 2013 20:42 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Again, I find artosis solocasting for todays matches highly entertainable.
Very entertainable indeed.
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I thought this was about dreamhack ... was wondering why people were bashing it, lol.
Y No Incontrol and Gretorp?
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I like that people are bashing this caster lineup.. but really. Isn't it only one stream? You can't expect much for that.
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On June 07 2013 11:25 Doodsmack wrote:
My favorite caster isn't there, therefore MLG is at fault.
Its not that my favourite casters aren't there, it's that MLG is supposed to be the american flagship for competitive gaming, yet they bring second rate casters who don't know what the fuck they are talking about. I'm sure I'm not alone on my opinion, im sorry but axeltoss, Dj wheat, TB are all terrible casters.
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I like it that they have 5 casters for one stream. This means casters will be fresh. Also means casters may have time to interact with community via Twitter and on-site because they are not 24/7 casting, eating, or sleeping.
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On June 07 2013 02:51 liquidoa wrote:
why no IdrA
As a good foreing player in BW and most of WoL, he was an asset skillwise even with his temper, thats why he was so long with EG. As he falls down as a player, What organization wants to deal with a known bm to be "caster". He surely tought that all the major leagues would come running to him, but i dont think thats the case. No offense to his commentary, but i just think theres too many other "already set up" caster in the scene. ie he could maybe/prolly be better than axslav but he is already in there so i find it hard that MLG would straitght up remove him to replace him with Idra
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Kinda bad lineup, only day9 and axslav know and play the game enough to comment, the rest do generic babbling, yell when 1 mine kills 3 zerglings and present the blue and red trunks. Was looking forward for some apollo or incontrol commentary.
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MLG most muted stream? Great games but as has been said time and time again, not the best casting.
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All I care for is Apollo and Artosis. Simply the best casters out there. A casting duo thats also started to grow on me, simply because their chemistry, is Bitterdam. After that TL interview, god have they moved milestones in my book.
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