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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 19 2013 13:13 GMT
#181
Are people seriously complaining about Dragon being signed?

Dragon is solid player but his strongest skill is his unparalleled skill as an entertainer, entertainers bring viewers and viewers help the scene grow. He's a scoop for any foreigner team - considering eSport haven't taken the same cultural root as it has in asia.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
May 19 2013 13:14 GMT
#182
gogo Mio
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
v0rtex
Profile Joined November 2011
123 Posts
May 19 2013 13:56 GMT
#183
So happy for Dragon! Hope he can pull off some good results this year, he deserves it. Gratz to Clarity and Dragon!
JD, Snute, TLO, Soulkey, $o$, HerO, Suppy, Hendralisk, MKP, Maru
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
May 19 2013 14:02 GMT
#184
Gl Clarity&Dragon! ^^
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
May 19 2013 14:28 GMT
#185
personally I hate the fact that the community is so easily forgetting about cheaters/maphackers etc as long as they are charismatic and charming...


best of luck to clarity and dragon.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
May 19 2013 14:34 GMT
#186
On May 19 2013 23:28 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
personally I hate the fact that the community is so easily forgetting about cheaters/maphackers etc as long as they are charismatic and charming...


best of luck to clarity and dragon.

Do you suggest we continue harping on them for years to come? Perhaps 10 years from now, after LotV has been patched to perfection and names of the best players today have faded into history, we should still remember "that one matchfixer/maphacker"? Should we also re-ban Byun and Coca?

I have no clue why you guys are so keen to remember people for their worst, when they have so much more to offer to the community.
Rebelkhan
Profile Joined January 2013
Ireland8 Posts
May 19 2013 14:47 GMT
#187
I thought EG would pick him up
Potato Zerg player ftw u lose
DaFoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States68 Posts
May 19 2013 14:52 GMT
#188
dragon sucsess!!!! great pickup
skules
Profile Joined June 2012
2 Posts
May 19 2013 15:13 GMT
#189
SUCKSEX
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 15:19:59
May 19 2013 15:14 GMT
#190
On May 19 2013 23:28 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
personally I hate the fact that the community is so easily forgetting about cheaters/maphackers etc as long as they are charismatic and charming...


best of luck to clarity and dragon.

All sports pretty much give players a second chance, only permanently bans are usually from assaults, matchfixing or being part of doping distribution groups. Maphacking is fairly innocent compared the other offenses a player actually can make.

Hell, Cantona was still a professional player, with only an 8 month ban, after intentionally kicked down another player and finally he jumpkicked a fan on his way off court.

Personally I'm more against the "holier than thou"-pitchfork mentality we have in eSports and strongly believe it's more harmful than giving players a chance to redeem themselves.

On May 19 2013 23:34 xAdra wrote:
I have no clue why you guys are so keen to remember people for their worst, when they have so much more to offer to the community.

I very much agree with this. Dragon is certainly a player who brings viewers simply due to his charisma, as an anecdote he has gotten several of my friends who don't even play Starcraft or eSports in general into watch his stream for entertainment and the SPL for the actual Sport. :-)
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
myn0s
Profile Joined November 2010
Barbados6 Posts
May 19 2013 15:35 GMT
#191
Really happy that Dragon got signed! His stream is one of the most entertaining player streams and I hope he does well. Good luck Dragon!
I love lamp...
Manki_1
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1 Post
May 19 2013 15:44 GMT
#192
Ok, first off, let's all be honest with ourselves, the man is damn good at Starcraft. Noone can really deny this fact.

Secondly, did any of the critics think about how they would perform stepping onto a stage in front of a live audience and trying to perform at their highest standard? Especially since Dragon had been out of the live pro scene for so long. The games he has played in the most recent live tournaments were exceptional. If you watch the VODs i think youll see that he rarely was "blown out" in any of the games he played. Sure there are a few players that have his number, but when it comes right down to it, Dragon has the potential to give any top player a run for their money, and the fact that he is "past his prime" in age (so to speak) says wonders for his natural ability and understanding of the game.

Yuna is absolutely right when she says that if he finds a team (which i hope Clarity is) that will work on his flaws, he will only improve his live event results. Also, being in a house with other Koreans will greatly help his inter-house relations, which was a big problem at Millenium. Every professional sports icon has a period of down before the up. In addition, everyone gets nervous, and has to learn how to deal with it in their own way.

Yes, Clarity likes having Dragon for his fanbase, of that their is no doubt, but to completely write off his natural skill level is absurd and only insults Dragon, Clarity, and ESports in general. If thats what the critics are going for, great, you have "suxesed". If their goal is to just be a Debbie Downer, well, im sorry your personality forces you to act in a certain manner.

On topic, congrats to Dragon and Clarity, and ESports as a whole, having known players active in the community can only be a good thing for the ESports future. Good luck with your next big moves Dragon!
Veni, Vidi, Vici
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 15:54:28
May 19 2013 15:44 GMT
#193
On May 19 2013 22:13 Jek wrote:
Are people seriously complaining about Dragon being signed?

Dragon is solid player but his strongest skill is his unparalleled skill as an entertainer, entertainers bring viewers and viewers help the scene grow. He's a scoop for any foreigner team - considering eSport haven't taken the same cultural root as it has in asia.


But why would Clarity value his skill as an entertainer when he doesn't even mention Clarity in his stream?
I mean, I would understand it if his contract contains showing the Clarity logo on his stream. It's basically the same as buying valuable adspace, except that you still get a solid player on top for team matches.

edit: Anyways, not really complaining, just genuiely curious to see what Clarity has in mind with signing Dragon.
YumYumGranola
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada346 Posts
May 19 2013 15:52 GMT
#194
Fumbled the punch line in their video a little bit .

Congrats Dragon
MarFol
Profile Joined June 2011
17 Posts
May 19 2013 16:23 GMT
#195
Sasess!
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 19 2013 17:31 GMT
#196
On May 20 2013 00:14 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 23:28 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
personally I hate the fact that the community is so easily forgetting about cheaters/maphackers etc as long as they are charismatic and charming...


best of luck to clarity and dragon.

All sports pretty much give players a second chance, only permanently bans are usually from assaults, matchfixing or being part of doping distribution groups. Maphacking is fairly innocent compared the other offenses a player actually can make.

Hell, Cantona was still a professional player, with only an 8 month ban, after intentionally kicked down another player and finally he jumpkicked a fan on his way off court.

Personally I'm more against the "holier than thou"-pitchfork mentality we have in eSports and strongly believe it's more harmful than giving players a chance to redeem themselves.

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 23:34 xAdra wrote:
I have no clue why you guys are so keen to remember people for their worst, when they have so much more to offer to the community.

I very much agree with this. Dragon is certainly a player who brings viewers simply due to his charisma, as an anecdote he has gotten several of my friends who don't even play Starcraft or eSports in general into watch his stream for entertainment and the SPL for the actual Sport. :-)

Actually, players that fuck up in normal sports at the level of those screw ups get banned. The black socks for instance were all banned from professional sports (including the fan favorite "shoeless" joe jackson). In a lot of cases, they are simply fined or suspended, like these players were though. Best of luck to dragon, I hope he can manner up a bit though, though I hope he can do something for clarity just as much. Best of luck to the both of them.
User was warned for too many mimes.
SimoNostalgia
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States226 Posts
May 19 2013 18:29 GMT
#197
YOYOYOYOYO DRAGON!

Neat team change.
Above the lakes, above the vales, The mountains and the woods, the clouds, the seas, Beyond the sun, beyond the ether, Beyond the confines of the starry spheres, My soul, you move with ease
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 19 2013 18:42 GMT
#198
On May 20 2013 02:31 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 00:14 Jek wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:28 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
personally I hate the fact that the community is so easily forgetting about cheaters/maphackers etc as long as they are charismatic and charming...


best of luck to clarity and dragon.

All sports pretty much give players a second chance, only permanently bans are usually from assaults, matchfixing or being part of doping distribution groups. Maphacking is fairly innocent compared the other offenses a player actually can make.

Hell, Cantona was still a professional player, with only an 8 month ban, after intentionally kicked down another player and finally he jumpkicked a fan on his way off court.

Personally I'm more against the "holier than thou"-pitchfork mentality we have in eSports and strongly believe it's more harmful than giving players a chance to redeem themselves.

On May 19 2013 23:34 xAdra wrote:
I have no clue why you guys are so keen to remember people for their worst, when they have so much more to offer to the community.

I very much agree with this. Dragon is certainly a player who brings viewers simply due to his charisma, as an anecdote he has gotten several of my friends who don't even play Starcraft or eSports in general into watch his stream for entertainment and the SPL for the actual Sport. :-)

Actually, players that fuck up in normal sports at the level of those screw ups get banned. The black socks for instance were all banned from professional sports (including the fan favorite "shoeless" joe jackson). In a lot of cases, they are simply fined or suspended, like these players were though. Best of luck to dragon, I hope he can manner up a bit though, though I hope he can do something for clarity just as much. Best of luck to the both of them.

Are you honestly comparing the black socks scandal with maphacking?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 19 2013 18:52 GMT
#199
Glad to see one of the top terrans in all of mid-gold-GM-trolling-league join the ranks of the mighty ClarityGaming.
MrMedic
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada452 Posts
May 19 2013 19:23 GMT
#200
He should make clarity much more popular and exposed, good pick up!
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