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Axiom.Miya Retires

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itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9154 Posts
May 18 2013 05:34 GMT
#1
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announced (via Miya informing Ethan Ahn) via twitter, and confirmed in a reddit post by Axiom officials, Jun "(Wiki)Miya" Jong Bum is retiring from competitive starcraft 2
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scCassius
Profile Joined March 2011
United States254 Posts
May 18 2013 05:36 GMT
#2
Gg drunk af
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
May 18 2013 05:37 GMT
#3
good luck in the future Miya!
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 18 2013 05:37 GMT
#4
That's pretty sad - I liked Miya
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
May 18 2013 05:38 GMT
#5
Liked him, sad
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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 18 2013 05:38 GMT
#6
I wonder if the Code A thing has anything to do with it..
But I liked miya :<...I wish him the best of luck
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
May 18 2013 05:39 GMT
#7
Unfortunate loss for Axiom, but somehow they're performing beyond all expectations, so they'll probably survive the loss.

Good luck in future endeavors, Miya!!
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
May 18 2013 05:40 GMT
#8
On May 18 2013 14:38 LighT. wrote:
I wonder if the Code A thing has anything to do with it..
But I liked miya :<...I wish him the best of luck


Failing to qualify had a ton to do with it. The manner in which he failed to do so had none, I am sure.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 18 2013 05:41 GMT
#9
Thought he was a up and coming Zerg, sad stuff
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 18 2013 05:44 GMT
#10
very sad D:
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WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
May 18 2013 05:44 GMT
#11
nooo, Miya it's too soon! Good luck on whatever you do next!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 18 2013 05:44 GMT
#12
Ethan Ahn also tweeted that Crank told him about Miya's retirement, just so It's clear, since TB was complaining about him " leaking " the news early. If Crank told him to not publicize it and he still did then that's something to complain about, otherwise not really.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 18 2013 05:45 GMT
#13
Ax-acer really gonna need to find another zerg with scarlett taking a break after gstl/wcs ends
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itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 05:51:15
May 18 2013 05:46 GMT
#14
On May 18 2013 14:44 Dodgin wrote:
Ethan Ahn also tweeted that Crank told him about Miya's retirement, just so It's clear, since TB was complaining about him " leaking " the news early. If Crank told him to not publicize it and he still did then that's something to complain about, otherwise not really.


when you are told information as a reporter that was not conditioned as being "off the record" before being told, it is "on the record" and free to use in reporting.

Journalism is built around a set of standards of reporting and sourcing. While these standards are, of course, separate from personal definitions of trust and relationships and how they influence action (for a write-up that discusses this extremely valid perspective in more detail, see Nazgul's blog), they nevertheless dictate what a journalist can and cannot print, so long as they are ethical from a trade standpoint.

Anything you say to a reporter, in any medium, is on the record unless you say otherwise. Anything on the record is subject to replication by a reporter in their news pieces, with full attribution regardless of sensibilities and options. Forum posts, tweets, phone calls, email messages, overheard conversations, direct conversations, Skype conversations, text messages, and even 'private messages' are all, without qualification, on the record.

If you wish to speak to a reporter anonymously and on a basis by which what you say cannot be published, you must condition what you say on the reporter's acceptance that what you wish to say is off the record. Off the record sources, by convention, cannot be attributed or published. They are used by reporters as a launching point in a larger attempt to find on the record sources for their reporting.


of course, if the information was "off the record," and used anyways, that's a different story entirely.
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 18 2013 05:46 GMT
#15
Hope he switches to LoL.
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
May 18 2013 05:47 GMT
#16
All the best to him :/
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 18 2013 05:48 GMT
#17
watching Miya break down and look pathetic after all those GSTL matches. i really hoped he would eventually get it.

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DisillusionedAcronym
Profile Joined September 2011
190 Posts
May 18 2013 05:50 GMT
#18
bummer. i like miya. and his teammates seem to think the world of him. :-/
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 18 2013 05:50 GMT
#19
I feel we never really have seen the best of Miya to bad we won't now either. I just hope he's not going to be silly and join the LoL route, nothing with the game but becoming a LoL pro is something insanely difficult.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 18 2013 05:51 GMT
#20
So long Miya.
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Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
May 18 2013 05:52 GMT
#21
Not really disappointed. Was a player I'd barely heard of before the Axiom formation, and is the weakest personality/name in the entire AxAcer lineup.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
May 18 2013 05:54 GMT
#22
awww =[
rip prime
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
May 18 2013 05:58 GMT
#23
Too bad.
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
May 18 2013 06:04 GMT
#24
Miya's glasses were always a cool look for him
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 18 2013 06:05 GMT
#25
Too bad, he was so great in practice, but it just didn't ever pan out on stage
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Mudkipnick
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Korea (South)241 Posts
May 18 2013 06:06 GMT
#26
Sad to hear. =\
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clayn
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany444 Posts
May 18 2013 06:10 GMT
#27
Stop retiring everyone ffs >_<
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 06:14:55
May 18 2013 06:11 GMT
#28
Unfortunate that the news was handled this way IMO. Would have been interesting if it was paired with an interview with miya about his career & the transition to hots + axiom, the difficulties of korean starcraft etc. but as is this is just kinda "meh, that sucks".

Don't know if there's any merit in being 'first' here =/ All the best to Miya in whatever he pursues next regardless
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BAAEEMM
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany412 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 06:12:22
May 18 2013 06:11 GMT
#29
Although we always saw/heard of his potential it felt like he didn't have the stomach for being a progamer and playing televised matches.

Still sad tho. Best luck to him in the future.
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
May 18 2013 06:11 GMT
#30
On May 18 2013 15:05 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Too bad, he was so great in practice, but it just didn't ever pan out on stage


can only imagine how frustrating that must be

pooor miya good luck in the future
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
May 18 2013 06:13 GMT
#31
Goddamnit... I liked his stream so much and he was reallllllly good...
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KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
May 18 2013 06:14 GMT
#32
I thought this was going to be the case. He's a good player but couldn't get through his nerve problem, and always tended to fold even before the game actually started, or went on a downward spiral even when he was on the verge of winning.

Oh well, good luck to your future endeavors, Miya.
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
May 18 2013 06:23 GMT
#33
I feel so bad for Miya considering that he never won a single GSTL game for Axiom-Acer. GL HF
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
May 18 2013 06:25 GMT
#34
Good luck Miya

Hopefully Axiom can find another zerg that fits into the team well.
DisillusionedAcronym
Profile Joined September 2011
190 Posts
May 18 2013 06:27 GMT
#35
On May 18 2013 14:52 Elwar wrote:
Not really disappointed. Was a player I'd barely heard of before the Axiom formation, and is the weakest personality/name in the entire AxAcer lineup.

result-wise, yes but his teammates seemed to have universally thought highly of him and seemed to have felt that he was an integral part of their play (as their practice partner and someone breaking down strategies).
Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
May 18 2013 06:30 GMT
#36
Is he staying on in a coaching role at all? I know Axiom doesn't really have one of those, except for Crank a little. I think he should, as he's a really smart player. I know Scarlett has mentioned him in interviews, crediting him with helping her a lot. Regardless of what he does I hope he is successful. He is an awesome guy, seems like a lot of fun on the team too. Sad to see him go.
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Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
May 18 2013 06:31 GMT
#37
Whyyyyy?!?! >
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 18 2013 06:31 GMT
#38
I enjoyed watching him. Best wishes for him in the future.
Uranyl
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany38 Posts
May 18 2013 06:36 GMT
#39
That's sad. But after the recent events with MLG not suprising.

He had no big achievements and the last opportunity was denied by an MLG admin and maybe by the sportsmanship of some players..

Good luck in the future Miya!
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1685 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 06:44:19
May 18 2013 06:44 GMT
#40
wrong thread sry
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
May 18 2013 07:31 GMT
#41
from what I gather, there was a miscommunication regarding the official timing of this announcement
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
May 18 2013 07:39 GMT
#42
GL in the future. I liked his run in the first WCS Korea. Great against Terrans
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Ecstatic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States160 Posts
May 18 2013 07:45 GMT
#43
Man, I always thought Miya had such a fun style to watch, since he was on SlayerS. He will be missed.
ZeeSC2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States134 Posts
May 18 2013 07:45 GMT
#44
Always sad to see players retire. hopefully he will find something else he loves to do
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
May 18 2013 07:50 GMT
#45
Why Miya retires? Pity for that.
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zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
May 18 2013 07:59 GMT
#46
GG Miya and GL in your future endeavors, whatever they may be!
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AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
May 18 2013 08:00 GMT
#47
I think this is an correct decision. Just another mediocre korean player.

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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 08:13:51
May 18 2013 08:12 GMT
#48
On May 18 2013 17:00 AyaaLa wrote:
I think this is an correct decision. Just another mediocre korean player.


Do you have any tact? Was the second part really necessary? Really some people...

Miya showed some great games during his career and as a zerg I enjoyed his style, I wish him all the best in his future endeavors. Let's see if Axiom will pick up more players soon.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
May 18 2013 08:17 GMT
#49
sad everyone stop retiring!!!
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RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
May 18 2013 08:24 GMT
#50
Sad to hear. Wish him the best of luck in the future, of course.
ELlminator1
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia344 Posts
May 18 2013 08:25 GMT
#51
What was his record in the GSL/GSTL booth? something like 0-9 or maybe worse.
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
May 18 2013 08:25 GMT
#52
On May 18 2013 17:00 AyaaLa wrote:
I think this is an correct decision. Just another mediocre korean player.

Not every player can play successfully on a stage, Miya was one of those player. He was always praised by his team as an excellent practice partner and I would take their word for it instead of a random forum poster trying to shit on a player.
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Giant Robot
Profile Joined August 2012
38 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 08:30:06
May 18 2013 08:28 GMT
#53
dimaga going to ax now? to fill out the zerg spot? or even idra? haha naaah

oh also! glhf Miya! and gogo scarlett!

edited.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
May 18 2013 08:36 GMT
#54
On May 18 2013 17:00 AyaaLa wrote:
I think this is an correct decision. Just another mediocre korean player.

Honestly, even if he's a "mediocre korean player" he's still easily in top 100 players. Possibly top 50. Which is pretty amazing and certainly "team-worthy". So, instead of being really stupid and a douche bag, why not try and hope the best for everyone?
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 08:39:58
May 18 2013 08:39 GMT
#55
On May 18 2013 17:00 AyaaLa wrote:
I think this is an correct decision. Just another mediocre korean player.

Do you fucking realize that every fucking player has bean mediocre (to your eyes) some day ?

edit : removed bad word ^^
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 18 2013 08:41 GMT
#56
On May 18 2013 17:39 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 17:00 AyaaLa wrote:
I think this is an correct decision. Just another mediocre korean player.


Do you fucking realize that every fucking player has bean mediocre (to your eyes) some day ? ASSHOLE



I don't think a true statement deserves such a response, Miya has never won a game in GSTL/GSL despite having many chances.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 18 2013 08:44 GMT
#57
dam
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AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 08:51:41
May 18 2013 08:51 GMT
#58
On May 18 2013 17:41 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 17:39 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
On May 18 2013 17:00 AyaaLa wrote:
I think this is an correct decision. Just another mediocre korean player.


Do you fucking realize that every fucking player has bean mediocre (to your eyes) some day ? ASSHOLE



I don't think a true statement deserves such a response, Miya has never won a game in GSTL/GSL despite having many chances.


To everyone; It's not my intention to bash on Miya. I liked him while he was playing for Slayers. But like it got pointed out he never got a victory in GS(T)L and I got insanely disapointed with his performance. But still, wish the best for Miya.
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TrollPolice
Profile Joined May 2013
44 Posts
May 18 2013 08:56 GMT
#59
Another intelligent one moves on.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8513 Posts
May 18 2013 08:59 GMT
#60
GL to Miya!
Fluffboll
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden516 Posts
May 18 2013 08:59 GMT
#61
On May 18 2013 17:51 AyaaLa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 17:41 Dodgin wrote:
On May 18 2013 17:39 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
On May 18 2013 17:00 AyaaLa wrote:
I think this is an correct decision. Just another mediocre korean player.


Do you fucking realize that every fucking player has bean mediocre (to your eyes) some day ? ASSHOLE



I don't think a true statement deserves such a response, Miya has never won a game in GSTL/GSL despite having many chances.


To everyone; It's not my intention to bash on Miya. I liked him while he was playing for Slayers. But like it got pointed out he never got a victory in GS(T)L and I got insanely disapointed with his performance. But still, wish the best for Miya.


Yeah sure...

On May 18 2013 17:00 AyaaLa wrote:
I think this is an correct decision. Just another mediocre korean player.


How is this not bashing on Miya? A retirement announcement is not the place to critique a player, it's a place to say goodbye/wish him (or her) luck.
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Wiciu87
Profile Joined February 2012
Poland14 Posts
May 18 2013 09:03 GMT
#62
announcment of the anoucment EG CURSE STYLE RIP IN PIECES SCRUB


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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 18 2013 09:03 GMT
#63
Goodbye Miya
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 18 2013 09:14 GMT
#64
Poor guy. Never able to prove himself on stage, but still an amazing player and personality.
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Uridium
Profile Joined September 2010
United States86 Posts
May 18 2013 09:28 GMT
#65
DeMusliM threatened to disqualify himself if Miya was back in the winners bracket for the premier league qualifiers so I blame him.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 18 2013 09:31 GMT
#66
On May 18 2013 17:36 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 17:00 AyaaLa wrote:
I think this is an correct decision. Just another mediocre korean player.

Honestly, even if he's a "mediocre korean player" he's still easily in top 100 players. Possibly top 50. Which is pretty amazing and certainly "team-worthy". So, instead of being really stupid and a douche bag, why not try and hope the best for everyone?

ok honestly i don't think miya is top 50 when you consider how many players are in the GSL and how many better players have not qualified. players like herO and jaehoon can't qualify for GSL and imo they are clearly better than miya. it's likely that quite a few foreigners are at least as good as miya as well (well, from his broadcasted games at least). the days are over when we had virus and co in code S, miya imo is not top 50/100
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Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
May 18 2013 09:31 GMT
#67
Ahh sad to hear He seemed like a really nice and funny guy. Too bad he wasn't able to really perform well in tournaments.
I wish him the best of luck!
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12389 Posts
May 18 2013 09:35 GMT
#68
oh man, always wanted to see him playing at his prime level, shame we never got to see it on stage
best of luck miya
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Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
May 18 2013 09:35 GMT
#69
On May 18 2013 18:31 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 17:36 Blargh wrote:
On May 18 2013 17:00 AyaaLa wrote:
I think this is an correct decision. Just another mediocre korean player.

Honestly, even if he's a "mediocre korean player" he's still easily in top 100 players. Possibly top 50. Which is pretty amazing and certainly "team-worthy". So, instead of being really stupid and a douche bag, why not try and hope the best for everyone?

ok honestly i don't think miya is top 50 when you consider how many players are in the GSL and how many better players have not qualified. players like herO and jaehoon can't qualify for GSL and imo they are clearly better than miya. it's likely that quite a few foreigners are at least as good as miya as well (well, from his broadcasted games at least). the days are over when we had virus and co in code S, miya imo is not top 50/100

Scarlett says that Miya is doing "much better" than she's doing in practice (I assume this is ladder and in-house practice games). Unfortunately, not everyone can have the winners mentality necessary, and I think it's a good thing to know when to stop.

Stubbornness is seen as a good quality by many, but sometimes you have to go one step back to move two steps forward again.
smogg
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria167 Posts
May 18 2013 09:41 GMT
#70
It was about time. He won't be missed.

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Profile Joined September 2012
Australia421 Posts
May 18 2013 09:44 GMT
#71
Sad he didnt get a win in gstl
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
May 18 2013 09:45 GMT
#72
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

MIYAAAAAAAA!!!!

T-T...
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
May 18 2013 09:52 GMT
#73
On May 18 2013 18:41 smogg wrote:
It was about time. He won't be missed.

Thanks for displaying your great intellect. I'm sure everyone appreciates it.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
May 18 2013 10:05 GMT
#74
Sad to hear. Gl with whatever it is you're going to do.
Now please stop with all the (Zerg) retirements!
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bongling
Profile Joined March 2013
41 Posts
May 18 2013 10:09 GMT
#75
sorry to see you go man, don't think we ever saw the best of you, gl hf and keep it righteous
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 18 2013 10:09 GMT
#76
I hope it won't be a trend among Axiom-Acer, I like this team
NervO
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Netherlands511 Posts
May 18 2013 10:10 GMT
#77
No fuck no, don't D:
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 18 2013 10:12 GMT
#78
On May 18 2013 19:09 ZenithM wrote:
I hope it won't be a trend among Axiom-Acer, I like this team


Well... Miya has never really had any results to speak of, and his recent record isn't particularly good. Not to mention the whole WCS Challenger Qualifier incident...

I liked him, I feel sad about his retirement, but I don't think this is remotely representative of the situations of the other Axiom players. And that at least is a good thing. :/
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 18 2013 10:48 GMT
#79
On May 18 2013 18:41 smogg wrote:
It was about time. He won't be missed.

User was temp banned for this post.


Neither will you, god people can be assholes... -.-
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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
May 18 2013 10:49 GMT
#80
On May 18 2013 14:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Ax-acer really gonna need to find another zerg with scarlett taking a break after gstl/wcs ends


*cough* Coca *cough*
he's still teamless right? also ex-slayers, if it would fit in with the others... it totally fits in the grand picture afaik, i didnt really pay attention to who blamed who in the slayers-disband, so maybe he doesnt fit in
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
May 18 2013 11:01 GMT
#81
Shame, makes the MLG situation even worse. No idea the motives, but if my team would root against me in a situation like that, I'd atleast be quite down about it.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 18 2013 11:01 GMT
#82
On May 18 2013 19:49 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 14:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Ax-acer really gonna need to find another zerg with scarlett taking a break after gstl/wcs ends


*cough* Coca *cough*
he's still teamless right? also ex-slayers, if it would fit in with the others... it totally fits in the grand picture afaik, i didnt really pay attention to who blamed who in the slayers-disband, so maybe he doesnt fit in

iirc puzzle and coca still had jessica's favour after slayers' disbandment while the rest of axiom and mma didn't, so it may be unlikely (especially considering TB-jessica relations)
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Shawters
Profile Joined October 2012
France26 Posts
May 18 2013 11:04 GMT
#83
I expected that... Good luck Miya!
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
May 18 2013 11:38 GMT
#84
From what I gathered, his primary purpose in the team was on his strength of been a great practice partner and getting people ready for up-coming matches. While that's a great person to have on a team it probably wasn't great for him, and unfortunately his record of 0% in Korea kind of speaks for itself

This leaves AA's line up at the bare bones, with Myia now gone and MMA currently in Europe AA have only just enough players to compete in a BO9 format.

Also for people saying Coca as a possible new Axiom pick-up, while it would be a great choice and a much needed zerg I can't see it happening. Even though he's been gone for a while he still seems like the kind of player who could command a price Axiom couldn't afford.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
May 18 2013 11:45 GMT
#85
What?!
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
May 18 2013 11:47 GMT
#86
Nooooo miya, I hoped your breakout would come! Sad to see this happening, even though you probably know what's best for you! GL in the future!
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Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
May 18 2013 11:53 GMT
#87
On May 18 2013 14:50 Lysanias wrote:
I feel we never really have seen the best of Miya to bad we won't now either. I just hope he's not going to be silly and join the LoL route, nothing with the game but becoming a LoL pro is something insanely difficult.

And SC2 pro is ez? lol
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 18 2013 12:13 GMT
#88
On May 18 2013 20:01 Zarahtra wrote:
Shame, makes the MLG situation even worse. No idea the motives, but if my team would root against me in a situation like that, I'd atleast be quite down about it.

They weren't rooting against him. Talk about seeing things in black and white...
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
May 18 2013 12:17 GMT
#89
Cya Miya, thanks for the games you gave us <3
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 12:18:24
May 18 2013 12:17 GMT
#90
On May 18 2013 20:53 Strela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 14:50 Lysanias wrote:
I feel we never really have seen the best of Miya to bad we won't now either. I just hope he's not going to be silly and join the LoL route, nothing with the game but becoming a LoL pro is something insanely difficult.

And SC2 pro is ez? lol

Constructing or becoming part of a reliable team of 5 individuals is pretty difficult, especially when games are won or lost at their expense.

LoL is not necessarily harder than SC2 to enter the proscene, its just harder than the impression one would get at the start.
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
May 18 2013 12:40 GMT
#91
On May 18 2013 17:28 Giant Robot wrote:
dimaga going to ax now? to fill out the zerg spot? or even idra? haha naaah

oh also! glhf Miya! and gogo scarlett!

edited.


Dimaga will most certainly not join Axiom. Axiom is a korean foucesd GSTL playing team and Dimaga has a wife in the ukraine, that just would´nt fit.

GGWP Miya, best of luck in your future endeavors.
IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
May 18 2013 12:42 GMT
#92
What really? :O I kinda started to like him, and I've heard so much about him having good potential but trouble getting over his nerves. So I really wanted to see that part of him. Anyways gl hf in the future
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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
May 18 2013 12:45 GMT
#93
On May 18 2013 21:17 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 20:53 Strela wrote:
On May 18 2013 14:50 Lysanias wrote:
I feel we never really have seen the best of Miya to bad we won't now either. I just hope he's not going to be silly and join the LoL route, nothing with the game but becoming a LoL pro is something insanely difficult.

And SC2 pro is ez? lol

Constructing or becoming part of a reliable team of 5 individuals is pretty difficult, especially when games are won or lost at their expense.

LoL is not necessarily harder than SC2 to enter the proscene, its just harder than the impression one would get at the start.

Yes and comparing a team game with a single player game is not really fair to either.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 12:57:06
May 18 2013 12:55 GMT
#94
On May 18 2013 21:13 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 20:01 Zarahtra wrote:
Shame, makes the MLG situation even worse. No idea the motives, but if my team would root against me in a situation like that, I'd atleast be quite down about it.

They weren't rooting against him. Talk about seeing things in black and white...

Well they didn't take a stance with him, which imo was pretty pathetic. Black and white, well there were 2 options that were availeble for them, stance of letting him replay or not, there was no inbetween. Mumble in the backrooms about their annoyance on MLG or the admin is pretty irrelevant to him. And this is coming from a huge Demu fan.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 18 2013 13:21 GMT
#95
Awww so sad Gl in the future Miya!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
fr4nk1sh
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden59 Posts
May 18 2013 13:23 GMT
#96
I liked this zerg, gl in future!
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
May 18 2013 13:28 GMT
#97
On May 18 2013 21:55 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 21:13 nihlon wrote:
On May 18 2013 20:01 Zarahtra wrote:
Shame, makes the MLG situation even worse. No idea the motives, but if my team would root against me in a situation like that, I'd atleast be quite down about it.

They weren't rooting against him. Talk about seeing things in black and white...

Well they didn't take a stance with him, which imo was pretty pathetic. Black and white, well there were 2 options that were availeble for them, stance of letting him replay or not, there was no inbetween. Mumble in the backrooms about their annoyance on MLG or the admin is pretty irrelevant to him. And this is coming from a huge Demu fan.


Holy shit, you're taking things WAAAY out of context. Genna DID protest against what happened in the qualifiers and took a stanse for Miya, but ultimately did not think it made sense to punish several other players (who had done nothing wrong) for a mistake MLG made, which is a perfectly reasonable stance.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
May 18 2013 13:32 GMT
#98
I guess they need a zerg now so who do they pick?

I don't know if there are any koreans available.Maybe Coca ?
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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
May 18 2013 13:37 GMT
#99
On May 18 2013 22:28 RaZorwire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 21:55 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 18 2013 21:13 nihlon wrote:
On May 18 2013 20:01 Zarahtra wrote:
Shame, makes the MLG situation even worse. No idea the motives, but if my team would root against me in a situation like that, I'd atleast be quite down about it.

They weren't rooting against him. Talk about seeing things in black and white...

Well they didn't take a stance with him, which imo was pretty pathetic. Black and white, well there were 2 options that were availeble for them, stance of letting him replay or not, there was no inbetween. Mumble in the backrooms about their annoyance on MLG or the admin is pretty irrelevant to him. And this is coming from a huge Demu fan.


Holy shit, you're taking things WAAAY out of context. Genna DID protest against what happened in the qualifiers and took a stanse for Miya, but ultimately did not think it made sense to punish several other players (who had done nothing wrong) for a mistake MLG made, which is a perfectly reasonable stance.

I'm obviously not saying she liked the way things went down, but she had an option to stand by her player's interests and not, and she didn't. It was not punishing any of those players, except for wasting their time, which is quite a light punishment compared to fucking up someone's tournament life.

When you buy a lottery ticket with 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 1,2,3,4,5 are already drawn and the hostess draws up a 9 but calls a 6, it isn't punishing you when they fix their mistake(assuming the time passed is not long).

But yer, this is my last post on this subject. Not really a fan of his, but I can't help but feel for him.
Glenn313
Profile Joined August 2011
United States475 Posts
May 18 2013 13:44 GMT
#100
Good luck in life MIya!
Hey man
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
May 18 2013 13:47 GMT
#101
On May 18 2013 21:55 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 21:13 nihlon wrote:
On May 18 2013 20:01 Zarahtra wrote:
Shame, makes the MLG situation even worse. No idea the motives, but if my team would root against me in a situation like that, I'd atleast be quite down about it.

They weren't rooting against him. Talk about seeing things in black and white...

Well they didn't take a stance with him, which imo was pretty pathetic. Black and white, well there were 2 options that were availeble for them, stance of letting him replay or not, there was no inbetween. Mumble in the backrooms about their annoyance on MLG or the admin is pretty irrelevant to him. And this is coming from a huge Demu fan.


Agreed. Genna should have let the MLG admins take the fall and make the ultimate decision. I feel like her teams interest should have been first priority.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 18 2013 14:00 GMT
#102
Interesting news. He hasn't been performing well from what I recall so I can understand his frustration and wanting to leave. GL to him in what he does next
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 18 2013 14:10 GMT
#103
I'm confused about the MLG drama, but I knew a guy who Miya coached, he was a great dude . GL in the future Miya.
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Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
May 18 2013 14:16 GMT
#104
On May 18 2013 23:10 docvoc wrote:
I'm confused about the MLG drama, but I knew a guy who Miya coached, he was a great dude . GL in the future Miya.


I wouldn't get too invested, we have the hashings of a story from multiple accounts/perspectives and the vast number of gaps are been filled in with anonymous forum posters opinions.
bogderpirat
Profile Joined April 2011
Jordan66 Posts
May 18 2013 14:36 GMT
#105
who?
if khaldor had boobs, i'd hit him
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
May 18 2013 14:38 GMT
#106
FUCK NO
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
May 18 2013 14:43 GMT
#107
On May 18 2013 22:37 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:28 RaZorwire wrote:
On May 18 2013 21:55 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 18 2013 21:13 nihlon wrote:
On May 18 2013 20:01 Zarahtra wrote:
Shame, makes the MLG situation even worse. No idea the motives, but if my team would root against me in a situation like that, I'd atleast be quite down about it.

They weren't rooting against him. Talk about seeing things in black and white...

Well they didn't take a stance with him, which imo was pretty pathetic. Black and white, well there were 2 options that were availeble for them, stance of letting him replay or not, there was no inbetween. Mumble in the backrooms about their annoyance on MLG or the admin is pretty irrelevant to him. And this is coming from a huge Demu fan.


Holy shit, you're taking things WAAAY out of context. Genna DID protest against what happened in the qualifiers and took a stanse for Miya, but ultimately did not think it made sense to punish several other players (who had done nothing wrong) for a mistake MLG made, which is a perfectly reasonable stance.

I'm obviously not saying she liked the way things went down, but she had an option to stand by her player's interests and not, and she didn't. It was not punishing any of those players, except for wasting their time, which is quite a light punishment compared to fucking up someone's tournament life.

When you buy a lottery ticket with 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 1,2,3,4,5 are already drawn and the hostess draws up a 9 but calls a 6, it isn't punishing you when they fix their mistake(assuming the time passed is not long).

But yer, this is my last post on this subject. Not really a fan of his, but I can't help but feel for him.

Only an idiot would buy that lottery ticket.
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Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
May 18 2013 14:43 GMT
#108
Aw, showed so much promise. It's too bad he never broke through. Gl!
Try another route paperboy.
Thomanson
Profile Joined November 2011
United States215 Posts
May 18 2013 14:44 GMT
#109
@Zealos *applause*
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 18 2013 14:46 GMT
#110
GL whatever you do Miya <3 and do some all kills before it !
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
May 18 2013 14:55 GMT
#111
Wow didn't see that coming personally.
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
May 18 2013 15:10 GMT
#112
Meh, can't say I'm surprised. Competition is just so fierce in Korea. Hard to make a decent living for yourself.
hmm... let's think about it
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
May 18 2013 15:31 GMT
#113
On May 18 2013 22:37 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:28 RaZorwire wrote:
On May 18 2013 21:55 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 18 2013 21:13 nihlon wrote:
On May 18 2013 20:01 Zarahtra wrote:
Shame, makes the MLG situation even worse. No idea the motives, but if my team would root against me in a situation like that, I'd atleast be quite down about it.

They weren't rooting against him. Talk about seeing things in black and white...

Well they didn't take a stance with him, which imo was pretty pathetic. Black and white, well there were 2 options that were availeble for them, stance of letting him replay or not, there was no inbetween. Mumble in the backrooms about their annoyance on MLG or the admin is pretty irrelevant to him. And this is coming from a huge Demu fan.


Holy shit, you're taking things WAAAY out of context. Genna DID protest against what happened in the qualifiers and took a stanse for Miya, but ultimately did not think it made sense to punish several other players (who had done nothing wrong) for a mistake MLG made, which is a perfectly reasonable stance.

I'm obviously not saying she liked the way things went down, but she had an option to stand by her player's interests and not, and she didn't. It was not punishing any of those players, except for wasting their time, which is quite a light punishment compared to fucking up someone's tournament life.

When you buy a lottery ticket with 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 1,2,3,4,5 are already drawn and the hostess draws up a 9 but calls a 6, it isn't punishing you when they fix their mistake(assuming the time passed is not long).

But yer, this is my last post on this subject. Not really a fan of his, but I can't help but feel for him.

There's no evidence he wouldn't have retired in any case. People blaming Genna for his retirement is presumptuous at best.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 15:44:52
May 18 2013 15:40 GMT
#114
On May 18 2013 22:47 mango_destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 21:55 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 18 2013 21:13 nihlon wrote:
On May 18 2013 20:01 Zarahtra wrote:
Shame, makes the MLG situation even worse. No idea the motives, but if my team would root against me in a situation like that, I'd atleast be quite down about it.

They weren't rooting against him. Talk about seeing things in black and white...

Well they didn't take a stance with him, which imo was pretty pathetic. Black and white, well there were 2 options that were availeble for them, stance of letting him replay or not, there was no inbetween. Mumble in the backrooms about their annoyance on MLG or the admin is pretty irrelevant to him. And this is coming from a huge Demu fan.


Agreed. Genna should have let the MLG admins take the fall and make the ultimate decision. I feel like her teams interest should have been first priority.


Agreed. Slayers Jessica would have backed her player in the same situation. You can knock Jessica for a lot of things but player loyalty isn't one of them.....at least when you don't cross/betray her. :p
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 18 2013 15:48 GMT
#115
Shame, Good luck with whatever you choose to do after SCII Miya!
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
May 18 2013 15:53 GMT
#116
On May 18 2013 23:43 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 22:37 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 18 2013 22:28 RaZorwire wrote:
On May 18 2013 21:55 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 18 2013 21:13 nihlon wrote:
On May 18 2013 20:01 Zarahtra wrote:
Shame, makes the MLG situation even worse. No idea the motives, but if my team would root against me in a situation like that, I'd atleast be quite down about it.

They weren't rooting against him. Talk about seeing things in black and white...

Well they didn't take a stance with him, which imo was pretty pathetic. Black and white, well there were 2 options that were availeble for them, stance of letting him replay or not, there was no inbetween. Mumble in the backrooms about their annoyance on MLG or the admin is pretty irrelevant to him. And this is coming from a huge Demu fan.


Holy shit, you're taking things WAAAY out of context. Genna DID protest against what happened in the qualifiers and took a stanse for Miya, but ultimately did not think it made sense to punish several other players (who had done nothing wrong) for a mistake MLG made, which is a perfectly reasonable stance.

I'm obviously not saying she liked the way things went down, but she had an option to stand by her player's interests and not, and she didn't. It was not punishing any of those players, except for wasting their time, which is quite a light punishment compared to fucking up someone's tournament life.

When you buy a lottery ticket with 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 1,2,3,4,5 are already drawn and the hostess draws up a 9 but calls a 6, it isn't punishing you when they fix their mistake(assuming the time passed is not long).

But yer, this is my last post on this subject. Not really a fan of his, but I can't help but feel for him.

Only an idiot would buy that lottery ticket.

Haha, I don't think you understand the math behind lotteries. What you should have said is "only an idiot buys lottery tickets".
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
May 18 2013 15:56 GMT
#117
Crank really has tough time keeping team secrets hidden from public
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
May 18 2013 16:09 GMT
#118
Man, I liked Miya. Even though he did not win a ton, I enjoyed watching him play.
Very unfortunate. Does that mean Axiom will be picking up another player soon?
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
May 18 2013 16:14 GMT
#119
Darn, lost another one Well best of luck to Miya!
I'm guessing it'll be Coca to take his spot on Ax
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
May 18 2013 16:41 GMT
#120
All the best to you, Miya, you crazy guy!

Will be interesting to see if Axiom will find a speedy replacement and if so, who they'll add to the team.
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mrtrevinoo
Profile Joined April 2012
United States10 Posts
May 18 2013 16:45 GMT
#121
Farewell Miya!
bobsire
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada296 Posts
May 18 2013 16:45 GMT
#122
all the best to him, he was a great player
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
May 18 2013 17:49 GMT
#123
Good bye Miya. See you in Legacy of the Void
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
May 18 2013 18:09 GMT
#124
Not really an outstanding player, but good luck nevertheless in his future
banelings
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 18:27:10
May 18 2013 18:25 GMT
#125
Well it seems retiring is going to be a good option for all players now(as we can see Stephano/IdrA)

I dont blame them. We can see that even if youre a top class world player its not enough to win against top class korean pros.

With KeSpa entering the market HoTS is wayyyyyyyyyy different playing field than WoL.

This will def not the last person to retire in the next coming months and I hope the best for them.
SC2 doesnt pay well if youre not a kespa player tbh(by time investement i mean)

LoL has a better set up than SC2 does. Playing (NA vs NA) (EU vs EU) and (KR vs KR )is the only real way you can create a world wide esport. Blizz failed.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
May 18 2013 20:30 GMT
#126
On May 19 2013 03:25 SoOJuuu wrote:
Well it seems retiring is going to be a good option for all players now(as we can see Stephano/IdrA)

I dont blame them. We can see that even if youre a top class world player its not enough to win against top class korean pros.

With KeSpa entering the market HoTS is wayyyyyyyyyy different playing field than WoL.

This will def not the last person to retire in the next coming months and I hope the best for them.
SC2 doesnt pay well if youre not a kespa player tbh(by time investement i mean)

LoL has a better set up than SC2 does. Playing (NA vs NA) (EU vs EU) and (KR vs KR )is the only real way you can create a world wide esport. Blizz failed.

Nationality is stupid anyway. It's unbelievable so many people even care about that. LoL is so successful with that system because of they have so many viewers, too.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
May 19 2013 01:20 GMT
#127
On May 19 2013 05:30 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 03:25 SoOJuuu wrote:
Well it seems retiring is going to be a good option for all players now(as we can see Stephano/IdrA)

I dont blame them. We can see that even if youre a top class world player its not enough to win against top class korean pros.

With KeSpa entering the market HoTS is wayyyyyyyyyy different playing field than WoL.

This will def not the last person to retire in the next coming months and I hope the best for them.
SC2 doesnt pay well if youre not a kespa player tbh(by time investement i mean)

LoL has a better set up than SC2 does. Playing (NA vs NA) (EU vs EU) and (KR vs KR )is the only real way you can create a world wide esport. Blizz failed.

Nationality is stupid anyway. It's unbelievable so many people even care about that. LoL is so successful with that system because of they have so many viewers, too.


It's true that LoL is successful with the current system because it has a larger playerbase. However the large amount of viewers is also in part due to the system. If they had went for the Blizzard approach and all the crown favorite team was steam rolled and promptly knocked out the viewership would most likely plummet very quickly. If people only cared about quality of play everyone would watch the Korean and Chinese tournaments, but they don't because they don't know the people playing.

If people had gone with a similar system I would guess they would have generated more viewers as well, because people like to tune in and cheer for people they know. Admittedly it is a bit different for SC2 because most people will know the bigger Korean players.

And when one nationality has a huge advantage over the rest of the world nationality is not stupid, it is a very real factor you need to consider. If you want a more even playing field where players from all over the world can stand their ground against each other you need to either hold the domination nation back or give the others a boost. Riot went with the second and so far it seems to be working out to some degree. The NA and EU teams have probably not fallen farther behind of the asian teams than before. They're not on par by any means, but it's probably heading in the right direction. I'm not sure if the same can be said for SC2.

Then again if you don't care about complete Korean dominance then I guess it's all fine.

And good luck to Miya with whatever he decides to do.
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xgtx
Profile Joined February 2009
227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 01:34:27
May 19 2013 01:34 GMT
#128
who? never heard of him
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
May 19 2013 01:36 GMT
#129
On May 19 2013 10:34 xgtx wrote:
who? never heard of him

Then go look him up, do some research before even posting that.
"Want some? Go get some!"
Angelavenger
Profile Joined March 2012
United States59 Posts
May 19 2013 01:51 GMT
#130
I'm so sad about this. I watched Miya's stream a lot and he had entertaining play as well as really hilarious personality. Good luck Miya in whatever you do! Just know i was always cheering for you.
HeavyCross
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada21 Posts
May 19 2013 13:28 GMT
#131
gl miya
J0k3r98
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany6 Posts
May 19 2013 15:46 GMT
#132
So sad Miya ♥♥♥♥
Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
May 19 2013 18:02 GMT
#133
On May 19 2013 10:34 xgtx wrote:
who? never heard of him



Don't follow Korean scene? Then wonder why you haven't heard of a Korean player?


Kinda hurtful to the player if they read this O_o but that was probably what you are looking for


Best of luck miya
The poor are thieves, beggars and whores, the rich are politicians, solicitors and courtesans...
Koromon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States304 Posts
May 19 2013 18:29 GMT
#134
:'(
This GSTL there's nobody I wanted to win more than Miya, except for maybe anyone on NSHS.
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
May 19 2013 18:35 GMT
#135
Sorry to hear about this. On to greener pastures, I guess. Best wishes.
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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 19 2013 18:40 GMT
#136
Sad news. Best of luck to him.

Now, I wonder though, who Axiom will pick up next or if they will.
Archen
Profile Joined April 2012
United States79 Posts
May 19 2013 19:47 GMT
#137
Its too bad Miya could never get over his stage fright and nerves, hope he does well in wherever he decides to go.
"Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse." - Liquid.Nony
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
May 20 2013 03:16 GMT
#138
Good Luck Miya!
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
DanLee
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada316 Posts
May 22 2013 03:00 GMT
#139
Good player, sad that hellbats had to end his career like this. Maybe he'll come back sometime.
nty
cheerful
Profile Joined December 2012
78 Posts
May 22 2013 14:52 GMT
#140
oh well.. good luck to him!
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
May 22 2013 20:33 GMT
#141
Good luck Miya =/
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