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Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
May 10 2013 02:57 GMT
#41
The only two people actually from the Americas get put in the same group *facepalm*
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althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
May 10 2013 03:00 GMT
#42
On May 10 2013 11:01 Thrillz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 11:00 rei wrote:
date? when are the groups going to be played? cause I have Hero on my fantasy team.


There isn't any type of WCS fantasy league? Unless you mean fantasy team on another site.

I assume he means he's worried about Hero being fatigued from travel, or having already left for WCS when Proleague is on .
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 10 2013 03:01 GMT
#43
Damn, that's a hard group for Polt.
Violet has always been one of the zerg that give him trouble, and both aLive and Ryung are TvT monsters. oO
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SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 03:07:13
May 10 2013 03:04 GMT
#44
Likely to see an All-Korean round of 8 for the "America WCS" . . .

Blizzard, you watching? Going to weasel out of this PR screw-up somehow? Don't worry, I'm sure you'll think of something creative as an excuse . . .


P.S. Anyone imagining the crowd reaction during Blizzcon when the entire "America" roster walks on stage in front of thousands of Americans and it's all Koreans? Cringe-worthy to think about.
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Obant
Profile Joined July 2011
United States11 Posts
May 10 2013 03:16 GMT
#45
Their reasoning hasn't changed from the start. Best games, by the best players, played live in your timezone. Honestly, I wouldn't care who walked on stage, as long as I got to see amazing games. Previous Blizzcon, NASL and MLG live tournaments have been filled with Koreans too.

That being said, I really would like to see region locks, To me, it would make it a whole lot more interesting, but I understand their viewpoint.
Bonkarooni
Profile Joined October 2010
United States383 Posts
May 10 2013 03:18 GMT
#46
Are they only playing r16 in NYC, or are they going all the way to the finals?
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
May 10 2013 03:46 GMT
#47
At first I was all like, "cool, WCS AM groups" then I saw all the korean names and I was all like "damn, I must have clicked on the wrong thread" but then I was all like "oh..."

In all seriousness though, I'm really digging the set up. Outside of Polt, its hard to see a clear favorite.
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Torrathyr
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada95 Posts
May 10 2013 04:18 GMT
#48
Whoever made group C should be terminated -_-
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Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 10 2013 04:19 GMT
#49
Group C just makes me feel like MLG is trying to screw NA fans T.T
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inFeZa
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia556 Posts
May 10 2013 04:19 GMT
#50
moonglade fighting!
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
May 10 2013 04:22 GMT
#51
Who will pay the flight for non-US residents? Organizer or teams?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 10 2013 04:22 GMT
#52
Group D is quite good, for NA standards :D
2 purebred Americans vs 1 Korean Terran + 1 faceless guy, sounds pretty interesting.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 04:59 GMT
#53
On May 10 2013 12:16 Obant wrote:
Their reasoning hasn't changed from the start. Best games, by the best players, played live in your timezone. Honestly, I wouldn't care who walked on stage, as long as I got to see amazing games. Previous Blizzcon, NASL and MLG live tournaments have been filled with Koreans too.

That being said, I really would like to see region locks, To me, it would make it a whole lot more interesting, but I understand their viewpoint.


I would happily agree Obant, but the thing is, their reasoning has changed from the start. They realized that they screwed up by not enforcing a strict region-lock, and then tried to cover their mistake (rather than owning up to it) by taking the easy way out . . . "we just want to see the best games".

If the above statement is true, why even bother having a regional divide at all? Why not just invite the top players from a variety of competitions throughout the year to Blizzcon? Logic bomb.
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Dudasc
Profile Joined October 2012
Brazil286 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 05:07:26
May 10 2013 05:06 GMT
#54
Group A: NesTea Alicia

Group B: Apocalypse Crank (TheStC played like shit in ro32)

Group C: Scarlett Suppy (maybe Revival over suppy, but I think that suppy and scarlett are gonna help each other in zvz and advance together because scarlett is crazy good in zvp)

Group D:
Polt viOlet (if violet is PeGaSuS in KR then he will advance for sure)

Don't doubt me, I have crazy WR in predictions.
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
May 10 2013 05:20 GMT
#55
This tournament sucks but actually, I can see the twisted logic in Group C

I said this before but, you give NA fans an out if they just want too watch NA play Korean then they can watch 1 group and not waste time. Lets say Crank goes to Group D. Easily he loses. This is too sad to see for NA fans. 2 NA in 1 group means they have 200% chance at making it as well.

Also look at the group, it has some easy Koreans. Revival I checked him out, hes shitty for a Korean, very beatable. Scarlett is arguably the best player there. Suppy, he is looking very good 4-0 in RO32. Hero I don't know about him but he is really fragile lately on a stage. If he gets beaten by Scarlett, very possible, he could be mentally damaged enough to lose to Suppy.

2 NA advance to RO8 baby. And like Incontrol said, the news isn't Korean wins its Suppy beats TWO Axiom players to go to BO16. You will want to be there if this happens! Facing Koreans is what really gets you viewers, people love underdogs.

2 NA in BO8 will get crazy viewers!

Maybe MLG and Blizzard through their insane logic... actually did the right thing? Still yet to be seen.
IMSmooth
Profile Joined May 2011
United States679 Posts
May 10 2013 05:21 GMT
#56
Is this done online or live?

To be honest these WCS tournaments are just not interesting because they arent live.
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Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
May 10 2013 05:45 GMT
#57
On May 10 2013 12:04 SCST wrote:
Likely to see an All-Korean round of 8 for the "America WCS" . . .

Blizzard, you watching? Going to weasel out of this PR screw-up somehow? Don't worry, I'm sure you'll think of something creative as an excuse . . .


P.S. Anyone imagining the crowd reaction during Blizzcon when the entire "America" roster walks on stage in front of thousands of Americans and it's all Koreans? Cringe-worthy to think about.



The best players should represent. If americans cant win games to prove they belong, then they dont belong.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 06:32:34
May 10 2013 06:30 GMT
#58
HerO and his all zerg groups. That's good though. He's had these kinda groups before and whether he wins or loses, the matchup in question has always looked very improved by the end of it. And HerO's PvZ for some reason does need a little boost. I honestly believe he could go back to having the best PvZ in the world if he just figured out a solid way to play to his strengths.
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
May 10 2013 06:32 GMT
#59
On May 10 2013 14:21 IMSmooth wrote:
Is this done online or live?

To be honest these WCS tournaments are just not interesting because they arent live.

All of WCS is live. Ro16 and onwards is at a LAN as well.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 10 2013 06:35 GMT
#60
lmao, 2 north americans but all the non-NA foreigners advanced. and this is why this would not be an interesting tournament if we had region locking. not to mention the embarassment that would occur in the season finals when the top 5 NA players show up and are sent right back home.
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