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TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
May 10 2013 00:32 GMT
#1341
If other players get some of the attention, that he stole from them with his toxic personality, then this is a good thing for almost everyone.
uberism
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada271 Posts
May 10 2013 00:32 GMT
#1342
Thank you EG for supporting idra throughout the years.
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
May 10 2013 00:32 GMT
#1343
On May 10 2013 09:27 Tz1k1 wrote:
Honestly think EG made a mistake here.

IdrA is the only reason i personally followed anything to do with EG, their other players or InControl's shitty jokes.

IdrA made EG, and to be honest its called EVIL Genius. Bad mouthing people is kinda of in the name. frankly the community has been slamming idra everytime i see his streams, so what if he snaps and hits back? isnt he entitled to? bot he and everyone else knows he isnt "paid" to bad mouth the community, but he is paid to be a member of it, and when the community bad mouths him, the same community he's paid to interact with, the same community that either loves or hates him for his bad manners. Then no matter how you look at it, he IS paid to bad mouth people. Its how he's been recognised, its how he brought EG to be noticed, and its what we expect of him.


in all sincerity i hope to see Greg stay in the sc2 scene as a Pro Gamer, and i hope he destroys everyone in EG he faces. There are only about 2 people in EG worth keeping. Geoff and Bryce suck (result wise).


Great you followed EG only because of IdrA. Other people, more levelheaded and interested in someone's skill and results than how BM they are followed Eg because they had actual good players who were actually competitive. IdrA, in the pro scene, is not good nor is he competitive anymore. He couldn't get top 16 GM for SHOUTcraft in NA. Long way from someone who was a top foreigner in 2011. He doesn't produce results and he hasn't accomplished anything besides giving the proverbial finger to the entire community in at least six months.

Goodbye IdrA. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
May 10 2013 00:32 GMT
#1344
On May 10 2013 09:25 figq wrote:
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On May 10 2013 09:18 Hassybaby wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:16 figq wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:03 Redox wrote:
Never understood what the big deal about him was. he was not a factor competetively for a long time. Yeah sometimes he did some "funny" antics, but that was about all he brought to the table.
He's a Broodwar legend among foreigners. He's like the foreigner Boxer. Even when he's not really competitive, there's a huge community that follows his every step.


Except Boxer made a significant contribution to esports.

Idra did the exact opposite.

Idra sacrificed his life in America to live in Korea in a professional team house and practice 24/7 at a time when the foreign Broodwar was long past its bright sparks (like Grrrr... and ElkY). His dedication has inspired many people.



I agree, idra sacrificed a lot for foreigners being able to go to korea. i dont think people who are new to sc2 know this.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 10 2013 00:33 GMT
#1345
On May 10 2013 09:27 KristofferAG wrote:
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On May 10 2013 09:25 figq wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:18 Hassybaby wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:16 figq wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:03 Redox wrote:
Never understood what the big deal about him was. he was not a factor competetively for a long time. Yeah sometimes he did some "funny" antics, but that was about all he brought to the table.
He's a Broodwar legend among foreigners. He's like the foreigner Boxer. Even when he's not really competitive, there's a huge community that follows his every step.


Except Boxer made a significant contribution to esports.

Idra did the exact opposite.

Idra sacrificed his life in America to live in Korea in a professional team house and practice 24/7 at a time when the foreign Broodwar was long past its bright sparks (like Grrrr... and ElkY). His dedication has inspired many people.

He was just as annoyingly whiny in BW, and people were just as split about him back then as they were now. Maybe even more, considering he was one of few foreign faces ever in the Korean scene.
But of course he was whiny and controversial back then too, he's Idra, after all. Doesn't change the fact he was the most relevant foreigner for some time.
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SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 00:33 GMT
#1346
On May 10 2013 09:28 Puph wrote:
This is stupid. Tell me, who was NOT aware that IdrA believes we are Twitch.tv chat spamming pieces of shit? Because we are. This is what we do. We crowd in IdrA's channel and shout obscenities. I don't see a problem with IdrA calling us out on it because if we did not see it, we would be blind.



That's exactly Idra's mistake that cost him his job. Not such a smart move to generalize and assume that "all" people are the same, is it?

Kind of like stereotyping don't you think?

We aren't all "fucks" that spam stream-chats. Most of us don't even use stream-chats. Most of the community are not trolls. Most of the community is actually a mature, genuinely interested audience.

Teams like EG don't want to alienate their customers. It's like owning a bakery and telling customers that walk in "you are a fat fuck, can't believe you eat my pastries HAHA" . . .
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
May 10 2013 00:33 GMT
#1347
On May 10 2013 09:28 ash88 wrote:
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On May 10 2013 09:19 MaeStrO.OrtSeaM wrote:
I might get burned for this, but I really don't care..

The amount of hate towards Greg is pathetic, really really pathetic.

"He deserved it", sure, he said things that were crossing the line, done things that were deemed bad mannered.. But the community riding him for his attitude since the very beginning surely hasn't helped him either. The guy tried to work on his attitude, getting professional help and when he cursed even once after people knew about him getting professional help, most of you were like "It's not helping, still so bm" blablabla, the community kept on riding him and honestly, those who call Greg toxic, look at the community as a whole first.

The community consists of hypocrites, morons.. And people are talking about making e-sports as big as any other professional sport? Gl with that, especially with the kind of community sc2 has..

When it comes to his words about the community.. can't help but agree with the lad.


Well said.

To reiterate: these people, so called "fans", with all their BM about how "Idra deserved it" don't know Greg. The way they mistake "passion" for "evil" is demonstrative of their age. And while I expect that from the mob, I don't expect that from the professionals leading EG.

It's like the community is a bunch of retards or something. If only we could pay someone to inform them of this.


So you specially made a account on a community forum to give your opinion about the community.... yeah you show how smart you are. Do we really need to take you guys seriously?
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
May 10 2013 00:33 GMT
#1348
On May 10 2013 09:26 MildSeven wrote:
I guess the scene outgrew Greg and his antics.

No longer can bad manner earn you popularity, you legit have to have skills. Greg just can't keep up with the meta-game, he complains all the time. If there's zergs able to be successful, then anything Greg says are just excuses for his own lack of skills.


Yes Idra should of realized that his act will get old eventually if he doesn't post results. You cannot continue to think you are so great, when your posting bad results. Look at Incontrol, his own funny comments about his own skill is PR +
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torg
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway47 Posts
May 10 2013 00:34 GMT
#1349
Can someone give EG some PR coaching? I dont wanna see Jaedong turn into Lindsay Lohan.
WickedBit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States343 Posts
May 10 2013 00:34 GMT
#1350
On May 10 2013 09:19 MaeStrO.OrtSeaM wrote:
I might get burned for this, but I really don't care..

The amount of hate towards Greg is pathetic, really really pathetic.

"He deserved it", sure, he said things that were crossing the line, done things that were deemed bad mannered.. But the community riding him for his attitude since the very beginning surely hasn't helped him either. The guy tried to work on his attitude, getting professional help and when he cursed even once after people knew about him getting professional help, most of you were like "It's not helping, still so bm" blablabla, the community kept on riding him and honestly, those who call Greg toxic, look at the community as a whole first.

The community consists of hypocrites, morons.. And people are talking about making e-sports as big as any other professional sport? Gl with that, especially with the kind of community sc2 has..


I think if he was just BM people wouldn't mind too much! I think it was his attitude towards the game in general i.e. how he just gave up that was off putting. Who can forget the quits vs hallucinated voids, after MMA destroyed his CC in MLG and many other instances. His current fanbase I think are composed of those that put up with and encouraged this self destructive behavior. Add to this his declining performances, I can see why they took this decision.
Another thing this does is give all other EG poor performers a kick in their butts. It looked so far like once someone joins EG they don't have to do anything else. This was reflected in declining performances of once top players. So this would probably give a message to others that they need to get their act together.
KingLumps
Profile Joined January 2012
74 Posts
May 10 2013 00:34 GMT
#1351
On May 10 2013 09:31 KristofferAG wrote:
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On May 10 2013 09:29 GolemMadness wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:26 MildSeven wrote:
I guess the scene outgrew Greg and his antics.

No longer can bad manner earn you popularity, you legit have to have skills. Greg just can't keep up with the meta-game, he complains all the time. If there's zergs able to be successful, then anything Greg says are just excuses for his own lack of skills.


You realise that he's one of the most popular players in the game, right?

Depends on how you rate popularity. Controversial, maybe. He has a lot of fans and pretty much just as many haters. And I guess that does make him a pretty popular character, but not necessarily in the way players like MC are popular.


If only Idra would have traded his BM for singing....
iSuck
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 10 2013 00:34 GMT
#1352
On May 10 2013 09:25 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 09:18 Hassybaby wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:16 figq wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:03 Redox wrote:
Never understood what the big deal about him was. he was not a factor competetively for a long time. Yeah sometimes he did some "funny" antics, but that was about all he brought to the table.
He's a Broodwar legend among foreigners. He's like the foreigner Boxer. Even when he's not really competitive, there's a huge community that follows his every step.


Except Boxer made a significant contribution to esports.

Idra did the exact opposite.

Idra sacrificed his life in America to live in Korea in a professional team house and practice 24/7 at a time when the foreign Broodwar was long past its bright sparks (like Grrrr... and ElkY). His dedication has inspired many people.


Jupp for me the BW Idra and the Sc2 Idra are different persons. That way I can still honor is BW days.
ash88
Profile Joined November 2010
13 Posts
May 10 2013 00:35 GMT
#1353
On May 10 2013 09:28 SCST wrote:
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On May 10 2013 09:23 Hrrrrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:59 Grumbels wrote:
I wonder if IdrA leaving the scene would have a noticeable negative impact on the SC2 viewership.


Did it have a negative impact on Dreamhack since he didn't attend? They hit ~140k viewers. You think it'll have a negative impact on WCS Finals? Idra isn't the draw that he use to be. People need to realize this.


Even morons start to catch on eventually that Idra hates people in general. Whether you are a "fan" of Idra (more like spectators at a freak show) or not . . . you are not a special snowflake. Idra hates your guts just as much as he hates everyone else. This was him just confirming it in public and EG being forced to release him.

His viewership has been dropping significantly lately due to people finally understanding this.


Huh? Why do I care if Greg Fields hates my guts? He's paid to entertain me, and that he does.

Continue...
tuoli9
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland211 Posts
May 10 2013 00:35 GMT
#1354
On May 10 2013 09:27 Tz1k1 wrote:
Honestly think EG made a mistake here.

IdrA is the only reason i personally followed anything to do with EG, their other players or InControl's shitty jokes.

IdrA made EG, and to be honest its called EVIL Genius. Bad mouthing people is kinda of in the name. frankly the community has been slamming idra everytime i see his streams, so what if he snaps and hits back? isnt he entitled to? bot he and everyone else knows he isnt "paid" to bad mouth the community, but he is paid to be a member of it, and when the community bad mouths him, the same community he's paid to interact with, the same community that either loves or hates him for his bad manners. Then no matter how you look at it, he IS paid to bad mouth people. Its how he's been recognised, its how he brought EG to be noticed, and its what we expect of him.


in all sincerity i hope to see Greg stay in the sc2 scene as a Pro Gamer, and i hope he destroys everyone in EG he faces. There are only about 2 people in EG worth keeping. Geoff and Bryce suck (result wise).

Well I disagree with you there. Thrash talking is all good and fine, but BM that IdrA spews does nothing but hurt the scene and generate these retarded IdrA fanboys who imitate him and his manners.

I'm really proud of Evil Genius, the amount of revenue IdrA generates for them is huge. But they still did it, still fired him. And it's not like he wasn't warned.
RevRich
Profile Joined February 2011
United States218 Posts
May 10 2013 00:35 GMT
#1355
Hell, its about damn time. EG just took a major step up in my book.
subliMe6
Profile Joined July 2011
12 Posts
May 10 2013 00:35 GMT
#1356
This is excellent! I'm really happy EG is taking a stand for what is right and won't deal with negative people that inhibit the growth of the rest of the team. I think EG will perform much better as a team in the future. Even though i'll still be rooting for TL, this makes me like EG even more. Best of luck to you guys in the future, and again, great management decision Alex.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 10 2013 00:35 GMT
#1357
On May 10 2013 09:27 Tz1k1 wrote:
Honestly think EG made a mistake here.

IdrA is the only reason i personally followed anything to do with EG, their other players or InControl's shitty jokes.

IdrA made EG, and to be honest its called EVIL Genius. Bad mouthing people is kinda of in the name. frankly the community has been slamming idra everytime i see his streams, so what if he snaps and hits back? isnt he entitled to? bot he and everyone else knows he isnt "paid" to bad mouth the community, but he is paid to be a member of it, and when the community bad mouths him, the same community he's paid to interact with, the same community that either loves or hates him for his bad manners. Then no matter how you look at it, he IS paid to bad mouth people. Its how he's been recognised, its how he brought EG to be noticed, and its what we expect of him.


in all sincerity i hope to see Greg stay in the sc2 scene as a Pro Gamer, and i hope he destroys everyone in EG he faces. There are only about 2 people in EG worth keeping. Geoff and Bryce suck (result wise).


Sounds like you don't understand much which is unfortunate.
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uberism
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada271 Posts
May 10 2013 00:35 GMT
#1358
On May 10 2013 09:32 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 09:30 GreenHorizons wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:17 WhiteSatin wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:11 GreenHorizons wrote:
42 pages of posts in less than an hour, 10k viewers rushed into SotG in a few minutes, and multiple shows will stack viewers wanting updates.

If a sponsor/team isn't on top of this they should be firing their head hunters.



you're wrong to analyze it the way you are -

this does not imply that idra should be hired in a new team- this means that people are commenting/watching on the 'event' itself unfold.

there are many people in this thread -if you reaed it carefully- (just like me) who are supporting th fact that EG finally released someone who has been acting as a dick, has been disrespectful and has not put up any results.

idra at this point is just like destiny - a guy with a niche of hardcore fans who follow him, but that's about it.
he can probably make an OK living streaming.. from a talent pov he's got nothing.. and from the "personality" stand point, 90% of the community is fed up by him.



Sponsors care about eyeballs. TL is already generically cashing in on all the people reading through the 60+ pages this has already generated. (At least those that that aren't hurting the TL elephant!)

Marketing has actually been making a marked shift toward "micro-targeting". A group of 3-10k hardcore fans/haters is perfect for savvy marketing teams.

Idra has the opportunity to command all of the SC2 community attention and any sponsor could get a bargain for views per $ regardless of perceptions of his attitude (They have commercials on the "Teen Mom" and "Honey Boo Boo" franchises, don't they?)


Just to put this in perspective about where the clicks/eyes are

Thread ___________________________________________________Replies_______Views

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Code S from 1 year ago

This thread started a couple hours ago......


really?

obama rapes a child, gets spammed and talked about, and the conclusion is obama is good because he brings popoularity?

if you havnt noticed, alot of people are talking shit to idra and praising eg more so than the opposite


Nice example, comparing rape to BM.
So all heel wrestlers in the WWE should be fired because they are rude to their fans?
MaeStrO.OrtSeaM
Profile Joined May 2013
13 Posts
May 10 2013 00:35 GMT
#1359
On May 10 2013 09:33 TheSir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 09:28 ash88 wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:19 MaeStrO.OrtSeaM wrote:
I might get burned for this, but I really don't care..

The amount of hate towards Greg is pathetic, really really pathetic.

"He deserved it", sure, he said things that were crossing the line, done things that were deemed bad mannered.. But the community riding him for his attitude since the very beginning surely hasn't helped him either. The guy tried to work on his attitude, getting professional help and when he cursed even once after people knew about him getting professional help, most of you were like "It's not helping, still so bm" blablabla, the community kept on riding him and honestly, those who call Greg toxic, look at the community as a whole first.

The community consists of hypocrites, morons.. And people are talking about making e-sports as big as any other professional sport? Gl with that, especially with the kind of community sc2 has..

When it comes to his words about the community.. can't help but agree with the lad.


Well said.

To reiterate: these people, so called "fans", with all their BM about how "Idra deserved it" don't know Greg. The way they mistake "passion" for "evil" is demonstrative of their age. And while I expect that from the mob, I don't expect that from the professionals leading EG.

It's like the community is a bunch of retards or something. If only we could pay someone to inform them of this.


So you specially made a account on a community forum to give your opinion about the community.... yeah you show how smart you are. Do we really need to take you guys seriously?



You and your silly assumption that I made this account just to post this.. wake up lad.

"You show how smart you are" right back at you, now fuck up.
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 10 2013 00:36 GMT
#1360
On May 10 2013 09:35 ash88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 09:28 SCST wrote:
On May 10 2013 09:23 Hrrrrm wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:59 Grumbels wrote:
I wonder if IdrA leaving the scene would have a noticeable negative impact on the SC2 viewership.


Did it have a negative impact on Dreamhack since he didn't attend? They hit ~140k viewers. You think it'll have a negative impact on WCS Finals? Idra isn't the draw that he use to be. People need to realize this.


Even morons start to catch on eventually that Idra hates people in general. Whether you are a "fan" of Idra (more like spectators at a freak show) or not . . . you are not a special snowflake. Idra hates your guts just as much as he hates everyone else. This was him just confirming it in public and EG being forced to release him.

His viewership has been dropping significantly lately due to people finally understanding this.


Huh? Why do I care if Greg Fields hates my guts? He's paid to entertain me, and that he does.

Continue...


Unlike you, most people aren't masochists and don't like to be called "fucks" after patronizing a business.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
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