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On May 10 2013 08:35 Demberks wrote: Can't believe all the hate. Are you guys really that stupid to take IdrA seriously? Damn, if he leaves the SC2 scene it will be a huge blow.
It will be interesting to see if he retires. If so, a legend goes to exile. I think you take him too serious. A huge blow, lol.
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On May 10 2013 08:28 Dvriel wrote:I was watching yesterday with so much expectation and nerves...I am Terran,but like foreigners and was cheering for Idra and was so excited and happy to see him perform SO DAMN WELL in game 1...Finally he did the most horrible thing you could ever imagine...I felt so so so sad and thought: "this guy dont care about the game and the community and all the support he got,being so BM. Why EG still pay him?" I thought of the Stephanos punishment before, but this now is incredible. As the Good Ol´Tychus said: "HELL,ITS ABOUT TIME!!" He deserved it. It seems he was looking exactly for this. With words like "fuck this game" I dont understand what is he doing trying to be a Progamer.I am so happy they reléase him. He must know, he is part of a TEAM. You can be the best player and win 500 GSL, but being so disrespectfull is totally unforgivebale. Hope no team in SC2 would ever make the mistake to sign a contract with such a guy. Poll: Did IdrA deserve this?Hell,its about time (337) 66% No.Only some minor punishment (83) 16% Yes, but its maybe too much (53) 10% Absolutly NO.They must understand the way he is (37) 7% 510 total votes Your vote: Did IdrA deserve this? (Vote): Hell,its about time (Vote): Yes, but its maybe too much (Vote): No.Only some minor punishment (Vote): Absolutly NO.They must understand the way he is
Most of the people here agree, IdrA deserve this. I like it,so BM need to learn, there is no future for them in our SC2
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On May 10 2013 08:27 FinnGamer wrote: Even Though I haven't played SC2 for Over a Year, i still feel really sad. Idra was One of the Players that sparked my interest in the Game in 2010 and 2011. Him leaving against MMA was still the Most Heartbreaking Moment i had in any Game (i saw it live and had to go on a Walk to cool Off). I still follow the scene and watch the Big tournaments, but i thought it was Just idra being idra. Now that he is realeased i doubt he will Swing back. Even Though i'm Super depressed , I wish Him the best of luck whatever he'll be doing.
Sorry for the random captiliazation. German autocorrect
This game... was really heart breaking. I can't imagine sc2 without eg.idra. This is so weird - the timing for the most part. I Have to quote you because its totally the same I think about the whole thing.
I hope he has a way to deal with this decision his life depends on his job. And idra was one of the few foreigners I cared about. His runs at mlg have been so exciting.
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On May 10 2013 08:35 BalanceFx wrote: Would EG let him back in if he legitimately cleaned up his act? His play is not bad by any stretch of the imagination. I have watched his stream a few times and he has great mechanics and when he reads a situation correctly he reacts like a cold, calculated usb 3,0 killer. (Serial ports are obsolete)
The problem I have mentioned on his stream chat a few times is that he looks like he is at work and not really enjoying the game. This is especially true if he loses in a way he deems to be 'wrong' or 'bad', I am not sure what most people's definitions on 'bad at starcraft' means but if you can beat Idra without Maphacks or Stream cheating I would not call you bad. Grack is a monster in game.
The second issue is what his actual attitude towards his fans seems to come across as..He doesn't seem like someone who appreciates or respects the very people directly responsible for supporting him while simultaneously trying to market himself to those people through streaming and other means. (His signature is literally buy my T-Shirt)
This is all just my conjecture and opinion but I think the last issue is the PR threat his team and managers have to deal with. If a fan takes Idra being Idra too hard and genuinely ceases to purchase said products because of the actions Idra takes then that is counterproductive to advertising dollars. Now there are two sides to that coin as I genuinely think some people watch Idra and support him because of the way he acts and the drama he creates.
Anyways good luck Idra. If you do an AMA I will get my questions out there:
SC2 is still expecting another XP and looks to have some longevity in terms of competitive play. Do you plan to continue with SC2 or gaming in general? (Streaming? Tournaments?)
If you were to speculate based on the current state of the game, what changes are you looking forward to the Zerg Race in the next XP? Are there some obvious macro or micro changes you would like to see?
Are there any obvious changes you would like to see made to Battle.net?
That's it for now. Still a fan of EG and Idra.
if he is so good how come he has no results to speak of?
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On May 10 2013 08:35 Demberks wrote: Can't believe all the hate. Are you guys really that stupid to take IdrA seriously? Damn, if he leaves the SC2 scene it will be a huge blow.
It will be interesting to see if he retires. If so, a legend goes to exile.
"a legend"
"Kappa"
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On May 10 2013 08:13 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:12 sixonezero wrote:On May 10 2013 08:09 skatblast wrote:On May 10 2013 08:08 sixonezero wrote: When did the community get to say who is on or who isn't on a team. Like seriously the whole "fuck Idra" circlejerk in Reddit I feel caused this to happen but seriously should they have that power? I would like to know how much that influenced the decision to realease him. did you even read the OP??! Yeah but he's been doing this shit since when and everyone put up with it till just last week. there's a limit to how much shit people can handle, I guess? by the way, welcome to TL.
I'm happy to be here. I just had to get away from reddit cause it's stupid that mods allow a fuck Idra circle jerk that could have possibly lead to managments decision to let him go. My feeling is he has done this since forever and the one time theres serious community backlash he gets released. If you don't see the connection then I guess I'm crazy but I think there's a pretty strong one. I respect EG's decision to protect their brand but I feel some people don't realize the shit they say has major ramifications.
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Oh well, I wish idra all the best.
I support Idra and InControl now EG means nothing to me at this point....oh I like Jaedong aswell
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On May 10 2013 08:36 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:33 ash88 wrote: Idra, like Simon Cowell, or Gordon Ramsay, says it like it is. His rant was 100% true. For EG to do this is ridiculous.
This isn't grade-school. The teams shouldn't police morals. Let Idra do what he does. If the fans don't like it then they will react. EG is over stepping their role... again.
I'm very disappointed. I hope some more mature team picks up Greg and supports him. This smells of knee-jerk. Gordon Ramsay and Simon Cowell, unlike Idra. are actually good at what they do. His rant was 100% his viewpoint and you're right this isn't gradeschool, temper tantrums for losing aren't acceptable in a professional environment. Neither is treating everyone else around you with disrespect. Unfortunately Esports isn't very professional or organized or profitable, so Idra's behavior isn't as misplaced as you'd think....but still inappropriate.
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On May 10 2013 08:33 ash88 wrote: The teams shouldn't police morals. Not doing so leaves the possibility of alienating sponsors. These companies are paying to be represented by a team, and if a team is presenting itself badly, rudely, arrogantly, crudely, whatever, it reflects back on the sponsor.
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I think I'm starting to like EG
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There he goes... No really. It may be time to hang up the mouse and keyboard. He had a good run
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i thought its a joke from a bitter user who really hates idra. then i saw the comments.
im kinda excited to see what will happen next.
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On May 10 2013 08:36 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:34 Chylo wrote:On May 10 2013 08:33 Promised_pain wrote: So I'm basically done with SC2, I didn't really watch anyone else than IdrA, and major tournaments. Especially if he played on them. I wish he would've gotten back to the level he was on 2010 or so (he still can ofc..) good old days... Well said. lol people are actually so much a fan of one player that they simply stop watching when he doesnt have a team anymore? So are you guys telling me that even Idra's biggest fans dont enjoy the game? lolll
well, it would make sense.
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On May 10 2013 08:37 sixonezero wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:13 Zephirdd wrote:On May 10 2013 08:12 sixonezero wrote:On May 10 2013 08:09 skatblast wrote:On May 10 2013 08:08 sixonezero wrote: When did the community get to say who is on or who isn't on a team. Like seriously the whole "fuck Idra" circlejerk in Reddit I feel caused this to happen but seriously should they have that power? I would like to know how much that influenced the decision to realease him. did you even read the OP??! Yeah but he's been doing this shit since when and everyone put up with it till just last week. there's a limit to how much shit people can handle, I guess? by the way, welcome to TL. I'm happy to be here. I just had to get away from reddit cause it's stupid that mods allow a fuck Idra circle jerk that could have possibly lead to managments decision to let him go. My feeling is he has done this since forever and the one time theres serious community backlash he gets released. If you don't see the connection then I guess I'm crazy but I think there's a pretty strong one. I respect EG's decision to protect their brand but I feel some people don't realize the shit they say has major ramifications. This place can be just as bad at times. Some things get modded heavily and others dont. It is kind of random sometimes.
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On May 10 2013 08:35 Demberks wrote: Can't believe all the hate. Are you guys really that stupid to take IdrA seriously? Damn, if he leaves the SC2 scene it will be a huge blow.
It will be interesting to see if he retires. If so, a legend goes to exile.
if you dont take children serious when they're misbehaving, they will continue to misbehave and become spoiled and become an idra.
"i make money by talking shit and you fuckers cant do anything about it, i'm a 'entertainer' before 'competitor' trololol"
yeah, clearly his just messing around, lets keep loving him guys.
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On May 10 2013 07:19 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 07:18 figq wrote: Could someone please link some backstory to all this? What I got from SotG is that Idra did something in the last days (besides going 0-4), but couldn't get what was it... This was the final straw pretty much. http://i.imgur.com/FgezXgU.jpg
I`ve never thoght Idra as a great player. But I agree that it seems we lost our hearts...
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I have an idea how to save NASL: they should make a weekly Idra vs Idra tournament.
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Can't say I'm surprised, but I doubt his comment is the reason he was removed from EG. As many have said, this is typical Idra being Idra. I think the real issue is that he is no longer considered a top foreigner and people are probably tired of covering up his shit while putting up no results.
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