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tluu12
Canada35 Posts
On May 10 2013 16:33 Ender985 wrote: So now EG has a lot of spare money to hire better players and improve EG-TL's standing in Proleague! Great news all around! EGPolt lol | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
that's what we call a professionalism /kidding Curious to see, who will pick Idra? | ||
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mopy
Australia19 Posts
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Pegas
Romania211 Posts
On May 10 2013 16:25 WetSocks wrote: EG without IdrA is not EG!  This is so surprisingAnd this is why they had to let him go. EG beeing associated with IdrA was way too detrimental. Look at the bigger picture EG nowdays have Dota and LoL teams who ALWAYS make more viewers than Grack could ever do/had. I am surprised that none of the IdrA "fans" has posted the reason why they were watching him. It is not his ability to play (that was good sometimes), it is not his interaction with fan (sometimes was good aswel), it is that IdrA with his attitude made everyone feeel good by feeding off his misery/unsuccess/rage something I don`t enjoy doing but I guess that is how some people look at E-sports. Do I support EG decision ? YES I DO! Do I think that Alexander Garfield made the call on IdrA? No, he is fairly young - must have been from Scoots directly. I would add that what happened on TL posting and the ackward rage quiting @ NA WCS , followed by almost everyone laughing/mocking IdrA/EG as bad was the drop that spilled the cup. | ||
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FoxShine
United States156 Posts
On May 10 2013 16:36 cSc.Dav1oN wrote: http://youtu.be/J4ZmkEmfMWA that's what we call a professionalism /kidding Curious to see, who will pick Idra? I was there - he was influenced by a legion of retarded fanboys. I'm sure he regrets it aswell. | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
On May 10 2013 16:26 SCST wrote: The reason I'm calling them "slightly off" isn't because they are simply speaking their mind. Their logic and reasoning for justifying Idra's behavior and attacking EG is so completely whacked that it's impossible to think of them as "normal" posters. Every time some random poster says "dur it's true Idra was right! All of you are fucks! durrr" it's hard not to start stereotyping. I have yet to see a rational argument for either defending Idra or attacking EG. While I don't think anyone would actually say that what Idra said was exactly "smart", there was a bit of truth to his post. He also did not seem entirely serious about it, but I suppose we will never know that... Idra has always valued "skill" in Starcraft. Many people don't actually care for skill (the viewers) and just want to see something EXCITING. Idra losing in a match and not saying "gg" is what people like to see. People like to dislike him, something which is actually pretty natural. People love to hate -someone-. Others actually love him because of that. Actually, this thread (and its # of pages) is pretty much proof of what Idra was saying (in his first post). People care about this kind of shit. People like uber gosu players like Innovation and Flash as well, but there's so much more money in Idra than Innovation. Flash, well, he will always have tons of fans and shit. I wonder how many viewers Innovation would get if he streamed.... | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
Good luck, greg  | ||
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
On May 10 2013 16:28 LastDance wrote: Nek minnit Idra joins The Alliance Alliance is eg though | ||
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styLesdavis
Germany833 Posts
He isn`t relevant anymore skillwise... I am actually really glad they "released the gracken". | ||
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sickzee
Croatia15 Posts
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graveboy
5 Posts
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yosisoy
Israel202 Posts
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On May 10 2013 16:40 Blargh wrote: While I don't think anyone would actually say that what Idra said was exactly "smart", there was a bit of truth to his post. He also did not seem entirely serious about it, but I suppose we will never know that... Idra has always valued "skill" in Starcraft. Many people don't actually care for skill (the viewers) and just want to see something EXCITING. Idra losing in a match and not saying "gg" is what people like to see. People like to dislike him, something which is actually pretty natural. People love to hate -someone-. Others actually love him because of that. Actually, this thread (and its # of pages) is pretty much proof of what Idra was saying (in his first post). People care about this kind of shit. People like uber gosu players like Innovation and Flash as well, but there's so much more money in Idra than Innovation. Flash, well, he will always have tons of fans and shit. I wonder how many viewers Innovation would get if he streamed.... Since when has idra valued skill? Anytime he lost it was always to some "no skill noob cheese rush" or because whatever unit was imbalanced at the time. He never actually lost and said "well I fucked this up" or "I could've done this better." It was always the games fault. Any attack before 20 minutes was considered a cheese by him and therefore not the real game. If he valued skill he would better himself, not blame others for beating him. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 10 2013 16:29 KaiserJohan wrote: Well to be honest he had a good point with his first post and the reply to him was just teasing him. Of course he went to far with his second post but really theres probably something more behind the scenes. The first post implied that EG cared more about streaming and 'pandering' to the community, and the community is more interested in trolling and e-drama then competition — which is not representative of EG's beliefs. While EG cares about viewership, they care about winning, too — you don't hire coaches, set up team houses and fly people to tournaments all over the world because you don't care about competition. You know that winning and marketing are related — the longer your player stays in a tournament, the more visibility your team and sponsors get. While IdrA was making a semi-valid point, it revealed the contempt that he personally had for the community and esports in general. The second post was basically IdrA stating his belief that he gets paid to treat the community — EG's customers — like shit. Can you imagine being a boss, and hearing one of your employees basically saying it doesn't matter how he treats customers, because they're getting paid a salary anyways? Or being a team owner, and hearing that one of your highest paid athletes basically believes that winning doesn't matter? I'm sure this has been a long time coming, but I can definitely see why these two posts pushed EG. Alex over the edge. | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
I hope this isn't the last of Greg in SC2 | ||
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Gr33d
Germany423 Posts
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mikethenewman
United States11 Posts
wow. holy shit. wait what? wow. deserved, but wow. cant believe it. reading 4 pages of posts and its all just one sentence garbage, how about some context and information and links people, sure ill go watch SoTG later to catch up but you people are just worthless with such comments, a community of degenerates.... where are the posts on analysis and review and reflections??? | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On May 10 2013 16:32 Irave wrote: So what are you gaining by calling his fans slightly off? While forming this opinion on low post count forum trolls. When I said the majority of his die hard fans are wishing him the best of luck in his fan club thread. This thread isn't nearly aggressively moderated as his fan-club. If you want the views of his real fans that you consider slightly off, I suggest venturing there, before being trolled and forming a foolish opinion. What have I gained? I'm enjoying discussing the topics and poking fun at insane/irrational posts. I'm sorry if I offended other die-hard fans that realize that firing Idra was the correct decision but are also by chance a fan of his play and are sad to see him leave EG. But I'm definitely not sorry to say that almost all of the "die-hard" fans of Idra that post in this thread are making outlandish, irrational, illogical statements that are lol-worthy. And if you're saying that these guys are only trolls - that you know this to be true - then I say you're misjudging the situation. Most of these guys are real fans, it' seems pretty obvious. You can almost feel the emotion and rage emanating from every word they post. Oh and yes, I've checked out Idra's fan club many times. Lots of crazies in there man . . . I'd put on a bio-hazard suit before venturing that way . . . yes, yes I would avoid that thread. Lol. | ||
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Ender985
Spain910 Posts
Well if they get EG.Polt I will finally start rooting for them! | ||
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stickyhands
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