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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 24 2013 22:09 GMT
#21
On April 25 2013 07:04 fleeze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 07:00 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 25 2013 06:57 Prplppleatr wrote:
And now the qualifier still clashes with DH, lol

Although, it is a start to showing some change...hopefully they continue to learn

why are people still complaining about the dreamhack clash. which players that are participating in dreamhack want to qualify for wcs na challenger division? i don't get it. i don't see anyone. so how does it matter?

because MLG said they will change the date.
and this:
Show nested quote +

There are a handful of players who are going to be playing in both tournaments, including HyuN, Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio.


Sage also, I think.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 24 2013 22:10 GMT
#22
On April 25 2013 07:08 iggym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 07:04 fleeze wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:00 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 25 2013 06:57 Prplppleatr wrote:
And now the qualifier still clashes with DH, lol

Although, it is a start to showing some change...hopefully they continue to learn

why are people still complaining about the dreamhack clash. which players that are participating in dreamhack want to qualify for wcs na challenger division? i don't get it. i don't see anyone. so how does it matter?

because MLG said they will change the date.
and this:

There are a handful of players who are going to be playing in both tournaments, including HyuN, Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio.


They changed the date of the qualifier to May 4th. This is a different qualifier.

Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio all have invites to that closed qualifier on May 4th.

HyuN is the only question mark at this point.

But didn't HyuN play in the GSL, barring him from WCS america completely?
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 22:11:25
April 24 2013 22:10 GMT
#23
On April 25 2013 07:08 iggym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 07:04 fleeze wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:00 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 25 2013 06:57 Prplppleatr wrote:
And now the qualifier still clashes with DH, lol

Although, it is a start to showing some change...hopefully they continue to learn

why are people still complaining about the dreamhack clash. which players that are participating in dreamhack want to qualify for wcs na challenger division? i don't get it. i don't see anyone. so how does it matter?

because MLG said they will change the date.
and this:

There are a handful of players who are going to be playing in both tournaments, including HyuN, Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio.


They changed the date of the qualifier to May 4th. This is a different qualifier.

Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio all have invites to that closed qualifier on May 4th.

HyuN is the only question mark at this point.

ah, ok. a qualifier for the actual challenger qualifier then
thanks for correcting.
On April 25 2013 07:10 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 07:08 iggym wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:04 fleeze wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:00 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 25 2013 06:57 Prplppleatr wrote:
And now the qualifier still clashes with DH, lol

Although, it is a start to showing some change...hopefully they continue to learn

why are people still complaining about the dreamhack clash. which players that are participating in dreamhack want to qualify for wcs na challenger division? i don't get it. i don't see anyone. so how does it matter?

because MLG said they will change the date.
and this:

There are a handful of players who are going to be playing in both tournaments, including HyuN, Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio.


They changed the date of the qualifier to May 4th. This is a different qualifier.

Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio all have invites to that closed qualifier on May 4th.

HyuN is the only question mark at this point.

But didn't HyuN play in the GSL, barring him from WCS america completely?

he can play the Code A qualifiers but not Code S. that's why the controversy with him playing in the first qualifier started. since it was both Code A and Code S qualifier.
Nighthawks28
Profile Joined June 2011
United States232 Posts
April 24 2013 22:11 GMT
#24
On April 25 2013 07:10 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 07:08 iggym wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:04 fleeze wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:00 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 25 2013 06:57 Prplppleatr wrote:
And now the qualifier still clashes with DH, lol

Although, it is a start to showing some change...hopefully they continue to learn

why are people still complaining about the dreamhack clash. which players that are participating in dreamhack want to qualify for wcs na challenger division? i don't get it. i don't see anyone. so how does it matter?

because MLG said they will change the date.
and this:

There are a handful of players who are going to be playing in both tournaments, including HyuN, Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio.


They changed the date of the qualifier to May 4th. This is a different qualifier.

Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio all have invites to that closed qualifier on May 4th.

HyuN is the only question mark at this point.

But didn't HyuN play in the GSL, barring him from WCS america completely?


The rules allow certain players to play in qualifiers to prepare their change next season. Hyun is allowed to play in the challenger qualifier (He played in the wrong qualifier last time so he got a DQ)
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
April 24 2013 22:11 GMT
#25
On April 25 2013 07:10 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 07:08 iggym wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:04 fleeze wrote:
On April 25 2013 07:00 Undead1993 wrote:
On April 25 2013 06:57 Prplppleatr wrote:
And now the qualifier still clashes with DH, lol

Although, it is a start to showing some change...hopefully they continue to learn

why are people still complaining about the dreamhack clash. which players that are participating in dreamhack want to qualify for wcs na challenger division? i don't get it. i don't see anyone. so how does it matter?

because MLG said they will change the date.
and this:

There are a handful of players who are going to be playing in both tournaments, including HyuN, Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio.


They changed the date of the qualifier to May 4th. This is a different qualifier.

Jaedong, JYP, Center, and Zenio all have invites to that closed qualifier on May 4th.

HyuN is the only question mark at this point.

But didn't HyuN play in the GSL, barring him from WCS america completely?


No, he can play in the qualifiers for Challenger league, just not for Premier league.
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templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
April 24 2013 22:12 GMT
#26
Also, all of those players probably finished high enough in the Premier qualifier that they got spots in the invite-only qualifier. Which means they don't need to compete in this open tournament, since the prizes are only seeds into the invite-only tournament.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 24 2013 22:12 GMT
#27
On April 25 2013 06:57 Hrrrrm wrote:
What is up with this?

Show nested quote +
Prize: Top eight players will advance to play in the Invite-Only Challenger League Qualifier on May 4.


If I'm understanding this correctly, this is a qualifier so you could play along with the invites 9th-40th from the Premier League qualifier(that was incredibly flawed) to then play through another qualifier? MLG and their love of invites never gets old.

This should be straight up, at the very least, be a qualifier for 16 spots into Challenger. Or do two qualifiers for eight spots each. Or four qualifiers for four spots each. Challenger League doesn't even start till May 13th, that is plenty of time. You should want the best of the best that are left for Challenger. Not players who finished 20th-40th in an extremely flawed tournament.


Pretty much this. Not surprised though anymore at MLG and their invitationals. like lol can't believe they are seriously doing an "open" qualifier just so you can play in the invite only qualifier rofl.
When I think of something else, something will go here
semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 22:18:22
April 24 2013 22:15 GMT
#28
The OpenQualifier for Challenger is only a spot into the InviteOnly-Qualifier for Challenger.

No one knows how the hell they determine the players who get seeded already into the InviteOnly. If they base it on the PremierLeague Qualifier it's really bad, cause so many things happened and it's really questionable how legitimate the outcome of the Qualifier was. That u cant revoke the 8 Players who got into Premier now is understandable, cause it would damage these Players, who weren't at fault for the bad organistion, alot.

Better conclusion would've been that the OpenQualifier for Challenger grants the 16 places for Challenger. So run 2 or 4 Qualifier (512-1024 brackets and masters+) and give the 8 or 4 top finishers the spots.


Edit: They also could've added one more Round to the PremierLeague itself and run a second Qualfier for it, cause the first one was really really questionable. And then let more players drop from PremierLeague into Challenger League for the first Season and come back to the normal model of the Leagues after Season2/3.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
April 24 2013 22:25 GMT
#29
So actually this is only a qualifier to get into the qualifier?
Red and yellow are all I see
DeathDyingDoomKiller
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada91 Posts
April 24 2013 22:25 GMT
#30
WCS America 2, first come first serve 8 Person bracket! Sign up starts at 4:30 am Tuesday!!!
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SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
April 24 2013 22:29 GMT
#31
i posted this question on reddit, but am I misunderstanding something?

In order to correct the wrong done to a lot of these players they are being given an invite into the OPEN qualifier where the top EIGHT can join the top 32 from the premiere qualifier for the ACTUAL code A qualifier where 16 go to NA Code A?

How does this help them... at all?
iggym
Profile Joined September 2012
United States49 Posts
April 24 2013 22:29 GMT
#32
There are probably 10 players who have the most remote of remote chances at making Premier who don't already have invites to the Challenger qualifier. I don't get why this bracket needs to be huge. Challenger is not very big. The bottom feeders are NA grandmasters.
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
April 24 2013 22:29 GMT
#33
I freaked out thinking sign ups were Korean dates like TL was like im too late its gonna be full nooooooo.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 24 2013 22:31 GMT
#34
On April 25 2013 07:29 SiguR wrote:
i posted this question on reddit, but am I misunderstanding something?

In order to correct the wrong done to a lot of these players they are being given an invite into the OPEN qualifier where the top EIGHT can join the top 32 from the premiere qualifier for the ACTUAL code A qualifier where 16 go to NA Code A?

How does this help them... at all?

it doesn't. I don't really understand it either to be perfectly honest.
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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 24 2013 22:32 GMT
#35
MLG decides to sit it out. Worst tournament organizer ever, give NASL the qualifier. Don't EVER buy anything from these assholes. Shit on them wherever you can.

On April 25 2013 06:48 heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
MLG has released details on the WCS NA Challenger Qualifier. The Chinese players who did not get in before will be granted entry.


Holy fuck wow! Korean top10 GM progamer and the WCS China champ ALLOWED into the CHALLENGER QUALIFIER!
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-24 22:35:25
April 24 2013 22:33 GMT
#36
On April 25 2013 07:32 Fenrax wrote:
MLG decides to sit it out. Worst tournament organizer ever, give NASL the qualifier. Don't EVER buy anything from these assholes. Shit on them wherever you can.

Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 06:48 heyoka wrote:
MLG has released details on the WCS NA Challenger Qualifier. The Chinese players who did not get in before will be granted entry.


Holy fuck wow! Korean top10 GM progamer and the WCS China champ ALLOWED into the CHALLENGER QUALIFIER!


No, they are allowed into the qualifier for the qualifier for challenger. Which is open to everyone anyway.

I guess if they hadn't done this the chinese wouldnt have even been allowed to try to qualify for challenger since it was based on the premiere league bracket. It would seem the blind are leading the blind at MLG. They clearly don't understand the extent of the injustice they put on the Chinese players.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
April 24 2013 22:34 GMT
#37
On April 25 2013 07:29 SiguR wrote:
i posted this question on reddit, but am I misunderstanding something?

In order to correct the wrong done to a lot of these players they are being given an invite into the OPEN qualifier where the top EIGHT can join the top 32 from the premiere qualifier for the ACTUAL code A qualifier where 16 go to NA Code A?

How does this help them... at all?


It doesn't. It just makes sure they don't miss out this time. It gives them absolutely nothing. Its hilarious they think this goes anyway to making up for what went down.

It would be like getting screwed in a $200 poker tournament by the admins and they give you a token for the $1 satellite which will satellite you into the $20 satellite for the $200 tournament as compensation.

These players should be seeded not just into the qualifier for the qualifier, not just the qualifier but into the challenger itself. Even then it doesn't really make up for it such is the difference between Premier and challenger.

TBH they should just expand the Premier to 64 players and hold a new open qualifier with 32 more spots. Seriously. Only thing that in any way shape or form actually makes up for this farce.
Red and yellow are all I see
semmeL
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany85 Posts
April 24 2013 22:38 GMT
#38
On April 25 2013 07:33 SiguR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 07:32 Fenrax wrote:
MLG decides to sit it out. Worst tournament organizer ever, give NASL the qualifier. Don't EVER buy anything from these assholes. Shit on them wherever you can.

On April 25 2013 06:48 heyoka wrote:
MLG has released details on the WCS NA Challenger Qualifier. The Chinese players who did not get in before will be granted entry.


Holy fuck wow! Korean top10 GM progamer and the WCS China champ ALLOWED into the CHALLENGER QUALIFIER!


No, they are allowed into the qualifier for the qualifier for challenger.

Which is open to everyone anyway. I guess if they hadn't done this the chinese wouldnt have even been allowed to try to qualify for challenger since it was based on the premiere league bracket.



Yeah it's still pretty bad.
I think the best they should have done is adding a Round or x-amount of Players to the first PremierLeague Season and do a new Qualifier for these spots (or even better not 1 Qualifier, 2 or 4 like ESL did). And then just let more players drop down from Preamier to Challenger the first season, same maybe for Challenger to Code B, and return to normal League-System for Season2/3.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 24 2013 22:38 GMT
#39
On April 25 2013 07:32 Fenrax wrote:
MLG decides to sit it out. Worst tournament organizer ever, give NASL the qualifier. Don't EVER buy anything from these assholes. Shit on them wherever you can.

Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 06:48 heyoka wrote:
MLG has released details on the WCS NA Challenger Qualifier. The Chinese players who did not get in before will be granted entry.


Holy fuck wow! Korean top10 GM progamer and the WCS China champ ALLOWED into the CHALLENGER QUALIFIER!



Yeah let's hate and shit on them, that's a positive contribution to the community there bud lol.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 24 2013 22:40 GMT
#40
On April 25 2013 07:32 Fenrax wrote:
MLG decides to sit it out. Worst tournament organizer ever, give NASL the qualifier. Don't EVER buy anything from these assholes. Shit on them wherever you can.

Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 06:48 heyoka wrote:
MLG has released details on the WCS NA Challenger Qualifier. The Chinese players who did not get in before will be granted entry.


Holy fuck wow! Korean top10 GM progamer and the WCS China champ ALLOWED into the CHALLENGER QUALIFIER!

Chill the fuck down.
Refer to my post.
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