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Everyone always jumps on this as "Maybe the Foreigners will try harder now!" But in reality, Foreigners can't try harder. CatZ has said this multiple times, better than anyone else. They already have an established scene. They can live off Sc2 right now even if they stay in their scene. But there are WAY TOO MANY koreans trying to get into the scene.
whereas you have the foreign US scene, There is no real established scene. When koreans started, They had to struggle to make a scene. But they only had to MAKE the scene. The US foreign scene has to struggle to COMPETE and make a scene. How much success do you think the koreans would have had if they were trying to start a scene in their town, And EU (Just an example) Had already been doing it for years with the toptop players coming over for their tournaments and winning literally everything.
Foreign scene can not establish like this.
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The Chinese player FruitBasket was a amateur, but got replaced by a Chinese progamer during the tournament. Looking forward to see how MLG will deal about this.
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On April 21 2013 15:00 Mlhockey16 wrote:
Thank you pointless region lock. NA scene dies a little bit more as koreans take our spots.
Werent koreans already dominating MLG? How does this change anything?
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Expected and good news. I am not even slightly interested in watching WCS EU aside from the days MVP plays and even then watching him play with a huge amount of lag will be very sad.
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yoooo wtf who is this man that took out JD?
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On April 21 2013 14:04 Lysanias wrote:
Wonder how many of these we will see in Season 2, considering they will have to be moving to NA like it actualy should be.
What are you talking about? They won't have to move at all. Especially if everything is online in Ro32, and Ro16 is a 1-day trip, then Ro8->final is just a weekend trip. Team pays for ticket to US, Blizzard/MLG Pays for ticket from US city they enter to Event along with hotel/etc.
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Northern Ireland27479 Posts
On April 21 2013 15:07 JJH777 wrote:
Expected and good news. I am not even slightly interested in watching WCS EU aside from the days MVP plays and even then watching him play with a huge amount of lag will be very sad.
WCS EU was one of the better tournaments I can recall, but hey people have different tastes
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On April 21 2013 15:08 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 15:07 JJH777 wrote:
Expected and good news. I am not even slightly interested in watching WCS EU aside from the days MVP plays and even then watching him play with a huge amount of lag will be very sad. WCS EU was one of the better tournaments I can recall, but hey people have different tastes
I didn't watch any of the WCS tournaments aside from Korea, Asia, and the finals. I know it got a lot of hype for it's production values and storyline but I don't really care about either of those things at least not for the players that were at that event. Even for GSL I almost always mute the stream and switch tabs in-between games because that is all I care about.
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would be expecting all korea-china sweep on the top 12 positions~ therefore... WCS AMERICA sounds crazy.
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On April 21 2013 15:12 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 15:08 Wombat_NI wrote:On April 21 2013 15:07 JJH777 wrote:
Expected and good news. I am not even slightly interested in watching WCS EU aside from the days MVP plays and even then watching him play with a huge amount of lag will be very sad. WCS EU was one of the better tournaments I can recall, but hey people have different tastes I didn't watch any of the WCS tournaments aside from Korea, Asia, and the finals. I know it got a lot of hype for it's production values and storyline but I don't really care about either of those things at least not for the players that were at that event. Even for GSL I almost always mute the stream and switch tabs in-between games because that is all I care about.
You realize that you are a minority viewer correct? WCS EU had numbers that were on par with WCS Finals, a tournament that had zero Koreans.
There is a very large audience that wants to watch foreigners play.
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On April 21 2013 13:38 tozi wrote:
basically Catz was right in the state of the game episode.
Koreans dominate the "american" tournament leaving little to no chance for americans...
Good. Catz needs to stop his babbling and crying about Koreans dominating the NA scene so his players can get some recognition. Catz is the reason I don't support the ROOTs team. I'd be more supportive if he just kept his mouth shut and let everything play it out by itself, meaning leaving it up to HIS players to earn the recognition for the team and not by eliminating apposing players by apparent foreign tag.
Also, without Koreans in these tournaments I can guarantee the viewer base would be dwindled. Who wants to watch terrible NA GMs going at each other with their 16apm and a-move command thinking they know what they're doing. No one.. aside fanboys of Demuslim and Idra.
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On April 21 2013 15:05 xiaomajia wrote:
The Chinese player FruitBasket was a amateur, but got replaced by a Chinese progamer during the tournament. Looking forward to see how MLG will deal about this.
Can you provide more details? What exactly do you mean? Someone smurfed on his account?
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Vatican City State582 Posts
On April 21 2013 15:15 Erosive wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 13:38 tozi wrote:
basically Catz was right in the state of the game episode.
Koreans dominate the "american" tournament leaving little to no chance for americans... Good. Catz needs to stop his babbling and crying about Koreans dominating the NA scene so his players can get some recognition. Catz is the reason I don't support the ROOTs team. I'd be more supportive if he just kept his mouth shut and let everything play it out by itself, meaning leaving it up to HIS players to earn the recognition for the team and not by eliminating apposing players by apparent foreign tag.
Catz moved on and cried about a "suspected hacker" because 15 random ppl msged him and accused the guy of hacking lol
w/e happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?
Miya 2:0'd the "cheater in question" soon after lol
/more pew pew, less QQ
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Well, they said next year you have to play live wherever the tournament is held to play (instead of online).
Two possibilities:
1. Koreans move to US and help build the NA scene (this includes possibility joining foreign team houses and helping practice, etc).
2. Koreans with sick sponsors fly back and forth between the tournament weekly while they still live in Korea (very very unlikely but it is a possibility which is why I mention this >.>).
So, by next year this problem will probably be not as big of a deal.
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On April 21 2013 15:15 TeslasPigeon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 15:12 JJH777 wrote:On April 21 2013 15:08 Wombat_NI wrote:On April 21 2013 15:07 JJH777 wrote:
Expected and good news. I am not even slightly interested in watching WCS EU aside from the days MVP plays and even then watching him play with a huge amount of lag will be very sad. WCS EU was one of the better tournaments I can recall, but hey people have different tastes I didn't watch any of the WCS tournaments aside from Korea, Asia, and the finals. I know it got a lot of hype for it's production values and storyline but I don't really care about either of those things at least not for the players that were at that event. Even for GSL I almost always mute the stream and switch tabs in-between games because that is all I care about. You realize that you are a minority viewer correct? WCS EU had numbers that were on par with WCS Finals, a tournament that had zero Koreans. There is a very large audience that wants to watch foreigners play.
MLG was all Korean from the top 8 on and had more viewers than WCS EU. Let's see how WCS KR compares in viewers (at least for the numbers we get to see) to WCS EU.
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Glad to see Oz making it through. I wonder who else will make it.
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Catz moved on and cried about a "suspected hacker" because 15 random ppl msged him and accused the guy of hacking lol
w/e happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?
Miya 2:0'd the "cheater in question" soon after lol
/more pew pew, less QQ
That has nothing to do with what I typed, let alone I'd dig myself a 6 feet deep hole, put a bullet through my head and fall into the hole before I watch more than 3 minutes of what Catz has to say about anything.
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On April 21 2013 15:24 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 15:12 JJH777 wrote:On April 21 2013 15:08 Wombat_NI wrote:On April 21 2013 15:07 JJH777 wrote:
Expected and good news. I am not even slightly interested in watching WCS EU aside from the days MVP plays and even then watching him play with a huge amount of lag will be very sad. WCS EU was one of the better tournaments I can recall, but hey people have different tastes I didn't watch any of the WCS tournaments aside from Korea, Asia, and the finals. I know it got a lot of hype for it's production values and storyline but I don't really care about either of those things at least not for the players that were at that event. Even for GSL I almost always mute the stream and switch tabs in-between games because that is all I care about. That was the best and most entertaining tournament I have ever watched.
doesn't sound exciting at all.. start watching some GSL or SPL man
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