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On April 23 2013 01:30 physicslee wrote:
Lol. Ok MLG Admin Was watching when i played RooT Catz his just rude Player who doesn't except losing. People who don't know me, just so many talks and rumor about me cheating w/e needs to end here. this witch hunting shit is really stupid. I'm pretty sure there's people asking me why do i use different hotkeys different play style. anybody can use different hotkey thats not what map hacking is plus i've been playing sc2 since Sc1 : BW played in cyber tourny in korea. so if you guys still wondering about me just keep it shut thanks
On April 23 2013 01:30 physicslee wrote:
ok i'll explain, me cheat no no no ok ? i use different hotkey from different builds to build which one might be faster might not fast. please stop i will try to stream my 1v1. in wcs admin watch me play game root catz very very mad. have a nice day people.
so why exactly did you change your post from the first one to this one? are you trying to portray yourself as a helpless korean so others will sympathize with you?
you were caught maphacking in WoL...not surprised you wouldn't get caught in HotS
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On April 23 2013 04:45 .kv wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 01:30 physicslee wrote:
Lol. Ok MLG Admin Was watching when i played RooT Catz his just rude Player who doesn't except losing. People who don't know me, just so many talks and rumor about me cheating w/e needs to end here. this witch hunting shit is really stupid. I'm pretty sure there's people asking me why do i use different hotkeys different play style. anybody can use different hotkey thats not what map hacking is plus i've been playing sc2 since Sc1 : BW played in cyber tourny in korea. so if you guys still wondering about me just keep it shut thanks Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 01:30 physicslee wrote:
ok i'll explain, me cheat no no no ok ? i use different hotkey from different builds to build which one might be faster might not fast. please stop i will try to stream my 1v1. in wcs admin watch me play game root catz very very mad. have a nice day people. so why exactly did you change your post from the first one to this one? are you trying to portray yourself as a helpless korean so others will sympathize with you? you were caught maphacking in WoL...not surprised you wouldn't get caught in HotS
Kinda fishy when someone who apparently speaks perfect english decides to do that
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Well, I wouldn't exactly call it "perfect english" either, haha :D
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On April 23 2013 04:45 .kv wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 01:30 physicslee wrote:
Lol. Ok MLG Admin Was watching when i played RooT Catz his just rude Player who doesn't except losing. People who don't know me, just so many talks and rumor about me cheating w/e needs to end here. this witch hunting shit is really stupid. I'm pretty sure there's people asking me why do i use different hotkeys different play style. anybody can use different hotkey thats not what map hacking is plus i've been playing sc2 since Sc1 : BW played in cyber tourny in korea. so if you guys still wondering about me just keep it shut thanks Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 01:30 physicslee wrote:
ok i'll explain, me cheat no no no ok ? i use different hotkey from different builds to build which one might be faster might not fast. please stop i will try to stream my 1v1. in wcs admin watch me play game root catz very very mad. have a nice day people. so why exactly did you change your post from the first one to this one? are you trying to portray yourself as a helpless korean so others will sympathize with you? you were caught maphacking in WoL...not surprised you wouldn't get caught in HotS
Pretty suspect change, also a pretty awful excuse. I have heard of a lot of stylistic changes for players, but I don't think I have heard of a player changing hotkeys for specific builds before.
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As i said, OP is a fake "nice guy". It doesn't take a Sherlock to figure out that this guy accused of MH/Acc swapping whatever his name is, is actually guilty. I'm sure OP is, or even was aware of his player actions before it got out, hoping for some results and easy commercial for his company. But since it got out, he had to put up a show titled "Do not connect me with that accident, i was hurt when i was 5 years old, so i'm gonna act as a white knight and trust my guy!", simply to clear his e-sports company name and cut any connection to the fraud. Because no1 will do business with shady organization.
It's so damn obvious that OP is deep in this shit just as the player. Sure he could be unaware what's going on backstage, but only if that scumbag player would be hell smart with his actions, taking care of every detail to cover his fraud. But srsly, all you have to do is read his posts to see that he is 1) Low intelligent person, commiting so many mistakes in his plan 2) Can't properly speak for himself on the forum, calling people names and not using any logical arguments, going "shut the f up people" instead of putting effort of 30mins stream to clear up his name, but of course he can't do that because he is guilty. 3) It's a lot easier to communicate by writing, instead of giving speech. If this guy fails so much to convince us he is innocent, then his verbal defense or explanation to OP should be even more lacking and easy to see through
Dudes you need think out of the box. This is all the business, only $ matters. You can't trust the guy because he wrote that he had bad experience in the past and since then he has became a saint. He is not from redcross, he is not a volunteer, he leads profit oriented organization, so please, don't buy cheesy stories from someone who is here to take your money.
Also another thing. Part about "I've asked him if he did it, he says no thus i believe him" makes ABSOLUTELY no sense. It's your damn responsibility to take action and do close investigation of your player, if enough proves were given that he is fraud. There's been more than enough to do so. Why are you leaving this matter to the community? You have hired him, he is representating your company, but yet you do nothing else than creating this topic to find out how much we gonna uncover. You just hoped that your guy would get away with what has he done, thats why you didn't discipline him as soon as enough of proof came out.
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Because i saw some people including IdrA say that you cant stream with maphack on,this is false and it can be done.
A friend of mine was talking to us while streaming playing against an ai and he was telling exactly what the bot was about to do.
I do not know how to do it but it is done through xplit and it cant be fixed.
I and some other ppl told him to post it on reddit as to get more exposure so people are not sure that maphackers cant stream but he said he wanted to see if blizzard who he messaged were to react.
You may not believe it and i dont care really as i have nothing to win anyway but just bear it in mind and dont believe anything you see
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On April 23 2013 05:10 BlazingFear wrote:
As i said, OP is a fake "nice guy". It doesn't take a Sherlock to figure out that this guy accused of MH/Acc swapping whatever his name is, is actually guilty. I'm sure OP is, or even was aware of his player actions before it got out, hoping for some results and easy commercial for his company. But since it got out, he had to put up a show titled "Do not connect me with that accident, i was hurt when i was 5 years old, so i'm gonna act as a white knight and trust my guy!", simply to clear his e-sports company name and cut any connection to the fraud. Because no1 will do business with shady organization.
It's so damn obvious that OP is deep in this shit just as the player. Sure he could be unaware what's going on backstage, but only if that scumbag player would be hell smart with his actions, taking care of every detail to cover his fraud. But srsly, all you have to do is read his posts to see that he is 1) Low intelligent person, commiting so many mistakes in his plan 2) Can't properly speak for himself on the forum, calling people names and not using any logical arguments, going "shut the f up people" instead of putting effort of 30mins stream to clear up his name, but of course he can't do that because he is guilty. 3) It's a lot easier to communicate by writing, instead of giving speech. If this guy fails so much to convince us he is innocent, then his verbal defense or explanation to OP should be even more lacking and easy to see through
Dudes you need think out of the box. This is all the business, only $ matters. You can't trust the guy because he wrote that he had bad experience in the past and since then he has became a saint. He is not from redcross, he is not a volunteer, he leads profit oriented organization, so please, don't buy cheesy stories from someone who is here to take your money.
How familiar are you with the level of Starcraft Impulse eSports plays at? By and large it isn't about money (yet) for a lot of the teams at this level (I would call it High Amateur myself, but the line is blurred with some better known teams playing in lesser known leagues).
These complaints originated from the URTL, or  Under Rated Team League , with a top prize of 250$, not to mention the fact that Impulse currently has a single sponsor listed on their site. Where ever you think these eSports dollars are coming from, I suspect you are grossly overestimating the average income of the team(s) at this level.
Starcraft at the high amateur level is about reputation, most of the players on these teams know one another or at least know of one another and make lateral shifts between them intermittently. Management among these organizations is much the same way, players and organizations are hard pressed to shake a reputation as a group of cheaters once they have been established as one.
You are lobbing some serious accusations with little more than circumstantial evidence.
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impulse has some of the most genuinely kind people at the helm. hopefully they dont get a negative rep for one bad apple.
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On April 23 2013 05:10 BlazingFear wrote:
As i said, OP is a fake "nice guy". It doesn't take a Sherlock to figure out that this guy accused of MH/Acc swapping whatever his name is, is actually guilty. I'm sure OP is, or even was aware of his player actions before it got out, hoping for some results and easy commercial for his company. But since it got out, he had to put up a show titled "Do not connect me with that accident, i was hurt when i was 5 years old, so i'm gonna act as a white knight and trust my guy!", simply to clear his e-sports company name and cut any connection to the fraud. Because no1 will do business with shady organization.
It's so damn obvious that OP is deep in this shit just as the player. Sure he could be unaware what's going on backstage, but only if that scumbag player would be hell smart with his actions, taking care of every detail to cover his fraud. But srsly, all you have to do is read his posts to see that he is 1) Low intelligent person, commiting so many mistakes in his plan 2) Can't properly speak for himself on the forum, calling people names and not using any logical arguments, going "shut the f up people" instead of putting effort of 30mins stream to clear up his name, but of course he can't do that because he is guilty. 3) It's a lot easier to communicate by writing, instead of giving speech. If this guy fails so much to convince us he is innocent, then his verbal defense or explanation to OP should be even more lacking and easy to see through
Dudes you need think out of the box. This is all the business, only $ matters. You can't trust the guy because he wrote that he had bad experience in the past and since then he has became a saint. He is not from redcross, he is not a volunteer, he leads profit oriented organization, so please, don't buy cheesy stories from someone who is here to take your money.
Also another thing. Part about "I've asked him if he did it, he says no thus i believe him" makes ABSOLUTELY no sense. It's your damn responsibility to take action and do close investigation of your player, if enough proves were given that he is fraud. There's been more than enough to do so. Why are you leaving this matter to the community? You have hired him, he is representating your company, but yet you do nothing else than creating this topic to find out how much we gonna uncover. You just hoped that your guy would get away with what has he done, thats why you didn't discipline him as soon as enough of proof came out.
You know nothing, do you think this is EG or something? It's an amateur team playing in small clan wars and small team leagues for scraps. Players aren't getting anything and neither are the managers who dedicate their time and effort.
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Yeah Blazing you sound like a 9/11 truther. One of those guys who thinks they're smarter than everyone else because they can think of alternate motives. Yeah, this small startup amateur eSports team thought letting someone who they knew was a hacker on their team would win them a couple clan wars and get them famous? Get real. I personally talked to Marine about this, and we went through replays for hours trying to find evidence of this guy's cheating. Especially considering what happened with Knighter, and knowing that reputation in eSports is everything as we are an unforgiving community, you would still rather believe that Marine is a greedy mastermind trying to manipulate an entire community than that he's just a nice guy? This is nonsense and you should be embarassed to have posted it.
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On April 23 2013 08:50 redDain wrote:
Yeah Blazing you sound like a 9/11 truther. One of those guys who thinks they're smarter than everyone else because they can think of alternate motives. Yeah, this small startup amateur eSports team thought letting someone who they knew was a hacker on their team would win them a couple clan wars and get them famous? Get real. I personally talked to Marine about this, and we went through replays for hours trying to find evidence of this guy's cheating. Especially considering what happened with Knighter, and knowing that reputation in eSports is everything as we are an unforgiving community, you would still rather believe that Marine is a greedy mastermind trying to manipulate an entire community than that he's just a nice guy? This is nonsense and you should be embarassed to have posted it.
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit. I can bust out old members who can tell you about imp.knighter, for example, who was another boosted clown on the team, had evidence against him, and marine turned a blind eye to him. Eventually, once enough people knew knighter was a clown, the kid bounced to league of legends, which physics will probably do soon as well.
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On April 23 2013 02:57 orangeorange wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 01:53 CoR wrote:On April 23 2013 01:30 physicslee wrote:
Lol. Ok MLG Admin Was watching when i played RooT Catz his just rude Player who doesn't except losing. People who don't know me, just so many talks and rumor about me cheating w/e needs to end here. this witch hunting shit is really stupid. I'm pretty sure there's people asking me why do i use different hotkeys different play style. anybody can use different hotkey thats not what map hacking is plus i've been playing sc2 since Sc1 : BW played in cyber tourny in korea. so if you guys still wondering about me just keep it shut thanks no players use complete different hotkeys in playstyle in tour etc and then in simple fungames, i play since 1998 thats just not true, you can READ a player always out of his hotkeys ... thats how we find out accshare in broodwar leagues since 10 years ... Not to mention the fact that his hotkeys and spamming signature in serious games just happens to match that of Dejmien...
Who's Dejmien? Someone who levels accounts for money?
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On April 23 2013 08:56 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 02:57 orangeorange wrote:On April 23 2013 01:53 CoR wrote:On April 23 2013 01:30 physicslee wrote:
Lol. Ok MLG Admin Was watching when i played RooT Catz his just rude Player who doesn't except losing. People who don't know me, just so many talks and rumor about me cheating w/e needs to end here. this witch hunting shit is really stupid. I'm pretty sure there's people asking me why do i use different hotkeys different play style. anybody can use different hotkey thats not what map hacking is plus i've been playing sc2 since Sc1 : BW played in cyber tourny in korea. so if you guys still wondering about me just keep it shut thanks no players use complete different hotkeys in playstyle in tour etc and then in simple fungames, i play since 1998 thats just not true, you can READ a player always out of his hotkeys ... thats how we find out accshare in broodwar leagues since 10 years ... Not to mention the fact that his hotkeys and spamming signature in serious games just happens to match that of Dejmien... Who's Dejmien? Someone who levels accounts for money?
Yes. Dejmien is the person of interest relating to PhysicsLee's boosted account.
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On April 23 2013 01:30 physicslee wrote:
Lol. Ok MLG Admin Was watching when i played RooT Catz his just rude Player who doesn't except losing. People who don't know me, just so many talks and rumor about me cheating w/e needs to end here. this witch hunting shit is really stupid. I'm pretty sure there's people asking me why do i use different hotkeys different play style. anybody can use different hotkey thats not what map hacking is plus i've been playing sc2 since Sc1 : BW played in cyber tourny in korea. so if you guys still wondering about me just keep it shut thanks
On April 23 2013 01:30 physicslee wrote:
ok i'll explain, me cheat no no no ok ? i use different hotkey from different builds to build which one might be faster might not fast. please stop i will try to stream my 1v1. in wcs admin watch me play game root catz very very mad. have a nice day people.
Um....
Why would Physicslee do something that shady if he wasn't guilty?
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Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
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On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him.
User was warned for this post
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That was helpful, good post. +1
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On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him.
He's not a fake korean, he speaks and types it fluently.
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Someone pls delete this, I fucked up ~ Buddha
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Shin, we have looked at the replays we have of him, it was difficult to prove that he cheated. A lot of it was suspicious and such, but there were very few replays available. Having evidence is not proof, if every time something suspicious happened we kicked that member from the team then no team would exist. Luck, intuition, and a number of other factors can be at play. It's not turning a blind eye, it's not having proof and gathering evidence that is incredibly difficult to get. Marine and I have looked at replays of both Knighter and Physics, and even brought in people from other teams that are high level to give us their opinion before confronting the player at all. No one from Impulse was saying that Physics was legit, just that we didn't have proof that he wasn't due to a lack of replays. Would have been nice if you had proof if you had brought it up while you were on the team though.
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