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On April 23 2013 08:55 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit.
Wait, what? PhysicsLee was removed from the team. Why would iMpulse give decent reasons why he's legit when management boots him for not being legit? There's a vast difference between supporting a cheater and taking the proper time to ensure the right decision is being made.
On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him.
You mean let a real Korean kid onto the team and did what any decent team should do -- take some time, investigate the allegations, inform the public that the player is being investigated but believing in a standard "innocent until proven guilty" model, and make an informed decision from there.
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On April 23 2013 09:25 iamcaustic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 08:55 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit. Wait, what? PhysicsLee was removed from the team. Why would iMpulse give decent reasons why he's legit when management boots him for not being legit? There's a vast difference between supporting a cheater and taking the proper time to ensure the right decision is being made. Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him. You mean let a real Korean kid onto the team and did what any decent team should do -- take some time, investigate the allegations, inform the public that the player is being investigated but believing in a standard "innocent until proven guilty" model, and make an informed decision from there.
I'd love to hear the story of how PhysicsLee got recruited... And no you guys are gullible chumps who wanted to believe a top 50 GM was part of your team when it was obvious that something was amiss. And I mean OBVIOUS.
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It is hard to belive that a blantant hacker like this can go on unnoticed for over a year. Even back in the day a lot of people were complaining about this guy, i think he even was added to the TL hacker list. The replay i uploaded is over 1 year old and it was so obvious he was hacking. In fact this guy was A KNOWN hacker, everyone who play against him in the ladder knew about this. He is doing this for over a year and yet you are unaware that he is a hacker until now.
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On April 23 2013 09:32 TricksAre4Figs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:25 iamcaustic wrote:On April 23 2013 08:55 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit. Wait, what? PhysicsLee was removed from the team. Why would iMpulse give decent reasons why he's legit when management boots him for not being legit? There's a vast difference between supporting a cheater and taking the proper time to ensure the right decision is being made. On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him. You mean let a real Korean kid onto the team and did what any decent team should do -- take some time, investigate the allegations, inform the public that the player is being investigated but believing in a standard "innocent until proven guilty" model, and make an informed decision from there. I'd love to hear the story of how PhysicsLee got recruited... And no you guys are gullible chumps who wanted to believe a top 50 GM was part of your team when it was obvious that something was amiss. And I mean OBVIOUS.
Well, at this point it's become fairly obvious -- that's why he's been dropped from the team. The team did its investigation in the wake of these allegations and agreed that things weren't adding up as they should. If you think iMpulse is the first sub-premier team to be fooled by a cheater, then you may want to re-assess who the gullible one really is.
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On April 23 2013 09:32 TricksAre4Figs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:25 iamcaustic wrote:On April 23 2013 08:55 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit. Wait, what? PhysicsLee was removed from the team. Why would iMpulse give decent reasons why he's legit when management boots him for not being legit? There's a vast difference between supporting a cheater and taking the proper time to ensure the right decision is being made. On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him. You mean let a real Korean kid onto the team and did what any decent team should do -- take some time, investigate the allegations, inform the public that the player is being investigated but believing in a standard "innocent until proven guilty" model, and make an informed decision from there. I'd love to hear the story of how PhysicsLee got recruited... And no you guys are gullible chumps who wanted to believe a top 50 GM was part of your team when it was obvious that something was amiss. And I mean OBVIOUS.
When did you know? Where did you say anything? I think Physics has been a part of impulse for about 2 months maybe less, I'd have to let Marine comment on that.
Also checked the GM Hacker thread, first mention of PhysicsLee is April 22, 2013...
Please show me where obvious is also. There's a lot of evidence in here, I'm not sure any of it warrants "OBVIOUS"
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On April 23 2013 09:10 Zath.erin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him. He's not a fake korean, he speaks and types it fluently.
This he does fluently type it. But I'm not sure whether he production tab hacks or not.
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http://drop.sc/164717 (1year old replay)
So dont tell me this isnt fucking obvious. Catz played against him on ladder back in the day and was calling him a hacker all the time.
He also gets mentioned as LLNphysics in the hackthread and someone said "rapdawg" is already confirmed (i suppose that was his older name).
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On April 23 2013 09:44 Buddhism101 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:32 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 09:25 iamcaustic wrote:On April 23 2013 08:55 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit. Wait, what? PhysicsLee was removed from the team. Why would iMpulse give decent reasons why he's legit when management boots him for not being legit? There's a vast difference between supporting a cheater and taking the proper time to ensure the right decision is being made. On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him. You mean let a real Korean kid onto the team and did what any decent team should do -- take some time, investigate the allegations, inform the public that the player is being investigated but believing in a standard "innocent until proven guilty" model, and make an informed decision from there. I'd love to hear the story of how PhysicsLee got recruited... And no you guys are gullible chumps who wanted to believe a top 50 GM was part of your team when it was obvious that something was amiss. And I mean OBVIOUS. When did you know? Where did you say anything? I think Physics has been a part of impulse for about 2 months maybe less, I'd have to let Marine comment on that. Also checked the GM Hacker thread, first mention of PhysicsLee is April 22, 2013... Please show me where obvious is also. There's a lot of evidence in here, I'm not sure any of it warrants "OBVIOUS"
Marine was told about it prior to the reddit thread being created. I guess nothings obvious when you have a team of gold league clowns
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On April 23 2013 09:52 Shin_Gouki wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:44 Buddhism101 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:32 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 09:25 iamcaustic wrote:On April 23 2013 08:55 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit. Wait, what? PhysicsLee was removed from the team. Why would iMpulse give decent reasons why he's legit when management boots him for not being legit? There's a vast difference between supporting a cheater and taking the proper time to ensure the right decision is being made. On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him. You mean let a real Korean kid onto the team and did what any decent team should do -- take some time, investigate the allegations, inform the public that the player is being investigated but believing in a standard "innocent until proven guilty" model, and make an informed decision from there. I'd love to hear the story of how PhysicsLee got recruited... And no you guys are gullible chumps who wanted to believe a top 50 GM was part of your team when it was obvious that something was amiss. And I mean OBVIOUS. When did you know? Where did you say anything? I think Physics has been a part of impulse for about 2 months maybe less, I'd have to let Marine comment on that. Also checked the GM Hacker thread, first mention of PhysicsLee is April 22, 2013... Please show me where obvious is also. There's a lot of evidence in here, I'm not sure any of it warrants "OBVIOUS" Marine was told about it prior to the reddit thread being created. I guess nothings obvious when you have a team of gold league clowns
So your advice is to just cut someone every time someone accuses someone else? You just seem bitter at Marine for some reason, did you confront him with advice / analysis / anything? Or are you just saying it's obvious now after the fact?
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On April 23 2013 09:44 Buddhism101 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:32 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 09:25 iamcaustic wrote:On April 23 2013 08:55 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit. Wait, what? PhysicsLee was removed from the team. Why would iMpulse give decent reasons why he's legit when management boots him for not being legit? There's a vast difference between supporting a cheater and taking the proper time to ensure the right decision is being made. On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him. You mean let a real Korean kid onto the team and did what any decent team should do -- take some time, investigate the allegations, inform the public that the player is being investigated but believing in a standard "innocent until proven guilty" model, and make an informed decision from there. I'd love to hear the story of how PhysicsLee got recruited... And no you guys are gullible chumps who wanted to believe a top 50 GM was part of your team when it was obvious that something was amiss. And I mean OBVIOUS. When did you know? Where did you say anything? I think Physics has been a part of impulse for about 2 months maybe less, I'd have to let Marine comment on that. Also checked the GM Hacker thread, first mention of PhysicsLee is April 22, 2013... Please show me where obvious is also. There's a lot of evidence in here, I'm not sure any of it warrants "OBVIOUS"
When PhysicsLee went 22-0 in GM league you didn't think that was unusual? Nobody goes 22-0 in GM vs pros. And during this time period he was streaming but only TEAM GAMES? Finally Marine had Physics stream 1v1 and Physics played like a low master at best, went 0-8, the games were terrible never went beyond 2base play. And the whole time Marine and Dain and others were making up excuses for Physics. People tried to alert iMpulse but you guys stubbornly rejected the information and "stood behind your teammate" who was barely even in the team for 2 months?
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On April 23 2013 09:55 Buddhism101 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:52 Shin_Gouki wrote:On April 23 2013 09:44 Buddhism101 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:32 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 09:25 iamcaustic wrote:On April 23 2013 08:55 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit. Wait, what? PhysicsLee was removed from the team. Why would iMpulse give decent reasons why he's legit when management boots him for not being legit? There's a vast difference between supporting a cheater and taking the proper time to ensure the right decision is being made. On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him. You mean let a real Korean kid onto the team and did what any decent team should do -- take some time, investigate the allegations, inform the public that the player is being investigated but believing in a standard "innocent until proven guilty" model, and make an informed decision from there. I'd love to hear the story of how PhysicsLee got recruited... And no you guys are gullible chumps who wanted to believe a top 50 GM was part of your team when it was obvious that something was amiss. And I mean OBVIOUS. When did you know? Where did you say anything? I think Physics has been a part of impulse for about 2 months maybe less, I'd have to let Marine comment on that. Also checked the GM Hacker thread, first mention of PhysicsLee is April 22, 2013... Please show me where obvious is also. There's a lot of evidence in here, I'm not sure any of it warrants "OBVIOUS" Marine was told about it prior to the reddit thread being created. I guess nothings obvious when you have a team of gold league clowns So your advice is to just cut someone every time someone accuses someone else? You just seem bitter at Marine for some reason, did you confront him with advice / analysis / anything? Or are you just saying it's obvious now after the fact?
None of the above. When someone accuses a member on your team, you speak to that team mate and get it squashed ASAP, or you let that said player look like a clown because he was caught. Nothing more, nothing less. You can back your player, that's expected and it's fine. But you don't just sit there and hope everything breezes away.
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On April 23 2013 09:49 Sokrates wrote:http://drop.sc/164717 (1year old replay) So dont tell me this isnt fucking obvious. Catz played against him on ladder back in the day and was calling him a hacker all the time. He also gets mentioned as LLNphysics in the hackthread and someone said "rapdawg" is already confirmed (i suppose that was his older name).
WTF physics is rapdawg? Link to thread plz
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On April 23 2013 09:57 Shin_Gouki wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:55 Buddhism101 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:52 Shin_Gouki wrote:On April 23 2013 09:44 Buddhism101 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:32 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 09:25 iamcaustic wrote:On April 23 2013 08:55 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit. Wait, what? PhysicsLee was removed from the team. Why would iMpulse give decent reasons why he's legit when management boots him for not being legit? There's a vast difference between supporting a cheater and taking the proper time to ensure the right decision is being made. On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him. You mean let a real Korean kid onto the team and did what any decent team should do -- take some time, investigate the allegations, inform the public that the player is being investigated but believing in a standard "innocent until proven guilty" model, and make an informed decision from there. I'd love to hear the story of how PhysicsLee got recruited... And no you guys are gullible chumps who wanted to believe a top 50 GM was part of your team when it was obvious that something was amiss. And I mean OBVIOUS. When did you know? Where did you say anything? I think Physics has been a part of impulse for about 2 months maybe less, I'd have to let Marine comment on that. Also checked the GM Hacker thread, first mention of PhysicsLee is April 22, 2013... Please show me where obvious is also. There's a lot of evidence in here, I'm not sure any of it warrants "OBVIOUS" Marine was told about it prior to the reddit thread being created. I guess nothings obvious when you have a team of gold league clowns So your advice is to just cut someone every time someone accuses someone else? You just seem bitter at Marine for some reason, did you confront him with advice / analysis / anything? Or are you just saying it's obvious now after the fact? None of the above. When someone accuses a member on your team, you speak to that team mate and get it squashed ASAP, or you let that said player look like a clown because he was caught. Nothing more, nothing less. You can back your player, that's expected and it's fine. But you don't just sit there and hope everything breezes away.
If someone accuses a team member you talk to them and then what? He said he didn't do it. Well that helps.
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Marine was told about it prior to the reddit thread being created. I guess nothings obvious when you have a team of gold league clowns[/QUOTE]
Shingoku first man. I am so disappointed in the manner in which you have acted. As someone who was part of this team, and up and left it in the middle of the night. As someone who was my friend why not come and talk to me? Anyways best of luck to you man. Hope you can release your anger some way more productive than this.
In regards to your accusations about me knowing about physics. Well yes of course I heard rumors before the Reddit post, and I was in the process of investigation. As I have claimed this entire time I do believe in "Innocent till proven guilty". I think everyone knows how difficult it is to get 100% proof, but as long as someone pleads innocence I want to stand by them and believe them when they have given me no reason not to.
Finally, today I talked to physics, and because he was unwilling to co-operate an longer in helping us with this issue I decided to let him go. I still am not sure if he is guilty or Innocent, but all I can say is that because he was unwilling to cooperate with us in this matter an longer we obviously felt it was time to let him go.
Issues like these are always very difficult to handle as a team owner. You want to believe in your players, but at the same time your trying to do your best to find the truth and get to the bottom of a matter. I hope that people can understand how difficult this is. I know some will always just believe the worst, but as always I do only the best I can.
-Marine-
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On April 23 2013 10:00 Buddhism101 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 09:57 Shin_Gouki wrote:On April 23 2013 09:55 Buddhism101 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:52 Shin_Gouki wrote:On April 23 2013 09:44 Buddhism101 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:32 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 09:25 iamcaustic wrote:On April 23 2013 08:55 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit. Wait, what? PhysicsLee was removed from the team. Why would iMpulse give decent reasons why he's legit when management boots him for not being legit? There's a vast difference between supporting a cheater and taking the proper time to ensure the right decision is being made. On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him. You mean let a real Korean kid onto the team and did what any decent team should do -- take some time, investigate the allegations, inform the public that the player is being investigated but believing in a standard "innocent until proven guilty" model, and make an informed decision from there. I'd love to hear the story of how PhysicsLee got recruited... And no you guys are gullible chumps who wanted to believe a top 50 GM was part of your team when it was obvious that something was amiss. And I mean OBVIOUS. When did you know? Where did you say anything? I think Physics has been a part of impulse for about 2 months maybe less, I'd have to let Marine comment on that. Also checked the GM Hacker thread, first mention of PhysicsLee is April 22, 2013... Please show me where obvious is also. There's a lot of evidence in here, I'm not sure any of it warrants "OBVIOUS" Marine was told about it prior to the reddit thread being created. I guess nothings obvious when you have a team of gold league clowns So your advice is to just cut someone every time someone accuses someone else? You just seem bitter at Marine for some reason, did you confront him with advice / analysis / anything? Or are you just saying it's obvious now after the fact? None of the above. When someone accuses a member on your team, you speak to that team mate and get it squashed ASAP, or you let that said player look like a clown because he was caught. Nothing more, nothing less. You can back your player, that's expected and it's fine. But you don't just sit there and hope everything breezes away. If someone accuses a team member you talk to them and then what? He said he didn't do it. Well that helps.
Bro, I said talk to him and get it squashed ASAP. I guess you missed that part so let me elaborate. If the player says "Hey, I don't hack, these allegations aren't true!" Then you have that shit squashed by just streaming and showing the accusers they're clowns. Otherwise, you let said player look like a clown, it's really simple.
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On April 23 2013 10:00 iMpMarine wrote:
Marine was told about it prior to the reddit thread being created. I guess nothings obvious when you have a team of gold league clowns[/QUOTE]
Shingoku first man. I am so disappointed in the manner in which you have acted. As someone who was part of this team, and up and left it in the middle of the night. As someone who was my friend why not come and talk to me? Anyways best of luck to you man. Hope you can release your anger some way more productive than this.
In regards to your accusations about me knowing about physics. Well yes of course I heard rumors before the Reddit post, and I was in the process of investigation. As I have claimed this entire time I do believe in "Innocent till proven guilty". I think everyone knows how difficult it is to get 100% proof, but as long as someone pleads innocence I want to stand by them and believe them when they have given me no reason not to.
Finally, today I talked to physics, and because he was unwilling to co-operate an longer in helping us with this issue I decided to let him go. I still am not sure if he is guilty or Innocent, but all I can say is that because he was unwilling to cooperate with us in this matter an longer we obviously felt it was time to let him go.
Issues like these are always very difficult to handle as a team owner. You want to believe in your players, but at the same time your trying to do your best to find the truth and get to the bottom of a matter. I hope that people can understand how difficult this is. I know some will always just believe the worst, but as always I do only the best I can.
-Marine-[/QUOTE]
Honestly Marine pipe down with your high road bullshit. We told you what was going on and you made up excuses and called us "haters" and refused to take a fair look at the situation.
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On April 23 2013 10:03 Shin_Gouki wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2013 10:00 Buddhism101 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:57 Shin_Gouki wrote:On April 23 2013 09:55 Buddhism101 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:52 Shin_Gouki wrote:On April 23 2013 09:44 Buddhism101 wrote:On April 23 2013 09:32 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 09:25 iamcaustic wrote:On April 23 2013 08:55 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Obviously, you guys haven't done anything "Analysis related" because you haven't even given a decent reason why physicslee is legit. Wait, what? PhysicsLee was removed from the team. Why would iMpulse give decent reasons why he's legit when management boots him for not being legit? There's a vast difference between supporting a cheater and taking the proper time to ensure the right decision is being made. On April 23 2013 09:08 TricksAre4Figs wrote:On April 23 2013 08:58 redDain wrote:
Shingouki you really should read threads before you respond. I'm not arguing that Physics is legit. He's been kicked from the team as of today. I was responding to the accusations that Marine knew he was hacking and let him on to get publicity.
I just want to say you guys are a bunch of dumbasses who let a fake korean cheating kid onto your team and stuck your necks out for him. You mean let a real Korean kid onto the team and did what any decent team should do -- take some time, investigate the allegations, inform the public that the player is being investigated but believing in a standard "innocent until proven guilty" model, and make an informed decision from there. I'd love to hear the story of how PhysicsLee got recruited... And no you guys are gullible chumps who wanted to believe a top 50 GM was part of your team when it was obvious that something was amiss. And I mean OBVIOUS. When did you know? Where did you say anything? I think Physics has been a part of impulse for about 2 months maybe less, I'd have to let Marine comment on that. Also checked the GM Hacker thread, first mention of PhysicsLee is April 22, 2013... Please show me where obvious is also. There's a lot of evidence in here, I'm not sure any of it warrants "OBVIOUS" Marine was told about it prior to the reddit thread being created. I guess nothings obvious when you have a team of gold league clowns So your advice is to just cut someone every time someone accuses someone else? You just seem bitter at Marine for some reason, did you confront him with advice / analysis / anything? Or are you just saying it's obvious now after the fact? None of the above. When someone accuses a member on your team, you speak to that team mate and get it squashed ASAP, or you let that said player look like a clown because he was caught. Nothing more, nothing less. You can back your player, that's expected and it's fine. But you don't just sit there and hope everything breezes away. If someone accuses a team member you talk to them and then what? He said he didn't do it. Well that helps. Bro, I said talk to him and get it squashed ASAP. I guess you missed that part so let me elaborate. If the player says "Hey, I don't hack, these allegations aren't true!" Then you have that shit squashed by just streaming and showing the accusers they're clowns. Otherwise, you let said player look like a clown, it's really simple.
When I messaged you the next day about why you left. All you said was that you had been drinking or something, and that you raged out.
I guess I missed the other message or as I did with the entire rest of the team that asked. I talked to them about the situation. I asked multiple people for advise including ex mangers from previous team. I did the best I could with the information in front of me. I believe in waiting, and looking at all the evidence when someone says they are innocent. It may look bad and that warrants an investigation, but everyone is entitled to fight charges in the effort to prove they are innocent, and none should automatically be guilty.
We play in a game where accusations and allegations fly. I heard once that MYi's entire team hacked and other such false rumors. Are we just to let this go. I think we need to investigate deeper to make sure that it is false.
I had missed some information apparently from some threads that honestly had I seen I probably would have acted much faster, but nobody is perfect. Anyways today when he was unwilling to help like I said I felt it was time to say goodbye
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On April 23 2013 10:05 TricksAre4Figs wrote:Marine was told about it prior to the reddit thread being created. I guess nothings obvious when you have a team of gold league clowns
Shingoku first man. I am so disappointed in the manner in which you have acted. As someone who was part of this team, and up and left it in the middle of the night. As someone who was my friend why not come and talk to me? Anyways best of luck to you man. Hope you can release your anger some way more productive than this.
In regards to your accusations about me knowing about physics. Well yes of course I heard rumors before the Reddit post, and I was in the process of investigation. As I have claimed this entire time I do believe in "Innocent till proven guilty". I think everyone knows how difficult it is to get 100% proof, but as long as someone pleads innocence I want to stand by them and believe them when they have given me no reason not to.
Finally, today I talked to physics, and because he was unwilling to co-operate an longer in helping us with this issue I decided to let him go. I still am not sure if he is guilty or Innocent, but all I can say is that because he was unwilling to cooperate with us in this matter an longer we obviously felt it was time to let him go.
Issues like these are always very difficult to handle as a team owner. You want to believe in your players, but at the same time your trying to do your best to find the truth and get to the bottom of a matter. I hope that people can understand how difficult this is. I know some will always just believe the worst, but as always I do only the best I can.
-Marine-[/QUOTE]
Honestly Marine pipe down with your high road bullshit. We told you what was going on and you made up excuses and called us "haters" and refused to take a fair look at the situation.[/QUOTE]
You come to me trying to put words in my mouth, and to accuse me of some of the worst things out there. I do not take the high road, and have made my mistakes, but I continue to do the best I can.
When people come to me however to accuse me of things I am not guilty of yes I am gonna be a bit upset, and I think that is quite understandable. Especially when trying to investigate a matter to its full extent.
In your world man people are guilty before innocent, and I don't live in that world my friend.
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