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minilance
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
April 04 2013 02:44 GMT
#21
this is pretty interesting
Bisu, Jangbang <3
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 04 2013 02:44 GMT
#22
On April 04 2013 11:42 nomyx wrote:
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@HelloSaSe: because some players wanna be as good as possible instead of making money. If I cared much about money I would ALWAYS be in EU^^


Money is easier in EU than US?

I believe he's referring to EU vs KR since he has been in KR and TW for most of the time recently
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 04 2013 02:45 GMT
#23
On April 04 2013 11:42 Waxangel wrote:
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On April 04 2013 11:41 StarStruck wrote:
On April 04 2013 11:39 TommyP wrote:
I remember on Lo3 that Incontrol was saying how he wanted to smack everyone that didn't agree this was a good thing. I really want to see incontrol hit MC.


Because you should hit everyone who doesn't share the same opinions as you're own. That's classy.


come on, we all WISH we could. That's why I want to have my brain transplanted into a giant robot exo-skeleton


As long as it still has your wavy long hair by all means. Needs to be styling and profiling.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 04 2013 02:45 GMT
#24
LOL at Leenock.

They definitely have a point, but it's for the greater good imo.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 04 2013 02:45 GMT
#25
It does suck for Koreans a great deal, but atleast they aren't missing out on anymore money than before. Players in Code A will still get money from participating in Code A, they just miss out on the chance for additional money that wasn't there before. This extra money should be seen as an incentive for players to try harder than ever to improve their play.
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Meadowlark
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States349 Posts
April 04 2013 02:46 GMT
#26
On April 04 2013 11:41 StarStruck wrote:
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On April 04 2013 11:39 TommyP wrote:
I remember on Lo3 that Incontrol was saying how he wanted to smack everyone that didn't agree this was a good thing. I really want to see incontrol hit MC.


Because you should hit everyone who doesn't share the same opinions as you're own. That's classy.

Don't act like an MC vs Incontrol smackdown wouldn't be fun.
''Three bottles of Monster in a day; I'm pumped as fuck." -Stephano
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
April 04 2013 02:47 GMT
#27
Maybe Polt leaving TSL for America was for the better, regardless of whether he knew this was happening or not. All the events just worked out perfectly in his favor. Maybe Polt really is a fortune teller?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
April 04 2013 02:47 GMT
#28
Polt can see the future
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 04 2013 02:47 GMT
#29
It would be funny if a Korean team relocated to NA or EU and dominated that WCS instead, assuming they all have equal prize pools it might be a worthy venture.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 04 2013 02:48 GMT
#30
On April 04 2013 11:42 nomyx wrote:
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@HelloSaSe: because some players wanna be as good as possible instead of making money. If I cared much about money I would ALWAYS be in EU^^


Money is easier in EU than US?


Yeah, Koreans tend to show up in higher numbers to US tournaments.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 04 2013 02:48 GMT
#31
On April 04 2013 11:44 Erik.TheRed wrote:
So awesome to see SaSe & Nani fighting the good fight.


It makes absolutely no sense at all to stay in Korea if you're a foreigner. If rotting in Code B for the next 12 months if the 'good fight' to you then that's fine and I'm not a fan of either player but their decision is absurd.
Shinyakusa
Profile Joined July 2012
United States36 Posts
April 04 2013 02:48 GMT
#32
You know, some good points are brought up. If Koreans cannot practically even compete in WCS in Korea, why would they not go to NA or EU? This may not be good for NA/EU players, if Koreans choose to compete in these instead of risking everything on some qualifiers.
"Idra will for sure win now, now that he has on his leather gracket." - Artosis
Phil0s0pher
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia317 Posts
April 04 2013 02:49 GMT
#33
You always here these stories about the Korean honor...but this just sounds like they all butthurt because they can't win more money then usual.
Sometimes I remember that there will be a day where herO and Maru retire. And I get sad
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
April 04 2013 02:49 GMT
#34
On April 04 2013 11:42 nomyx wrote:
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@HelloSaSe: because some players wanna be as good as possible instead of making money. If I cared much about money I would ALWAYS be in EU^^


Money is easier in EU than US?


Anywhere other than korea is much easier
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 02:51:17
April 04 2013 02:49 GMT
#35
what did MC expect ... play three leagues in the same day teleporting from Korea to europe to US after every set ... jeez

dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
April 04 2013 02:49 GMT
#36
On April 04 2013 11:42 gyad wrote:
It's not like the Koreans HAVE to come to the west. They're just butthurt that they can't win free money in the WCS events. They can still have to the non-WCS events if they want. And even if they wanted to, most of them probably didn't have the money to come anyway. If Blizzard never announced this WCS stuff, 95% of the Koreans would still be playing in Korean tournaments anyway. They're just butthurt that can't play in our tournaments on a whim.


It punishes the Korean scene for being good while rewarding Americans who are pretty terrible in comparison with 5 slots out of a 16 slot tournament. A bit silly.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
April 04 2013 02:50 GMT
#37
On April 04 2013 11:39 TommyP wrote:
I remember on Lo3 that Incontrol was saying how he wanted to smack everyone that didn't agree this was a good thing. I really want to see incontrol hit MC.

MC tackled that guy who stole his wallet ^_^

Loved Naniwa's comments along with the Korean pros. There is a lot going on here, I just want to be able to see my favorite Koreans compete in Korea. There's no greater battle ground then the holy land of Starcraft.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 04 2013 02:50 GMT
#38
On April 04 2013 11:48 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 11:44 Erik.TheRed wrote:
So awesome to see SaSe & Nani fighting the good fight.


It makes absolutely no sense at all to stay in Korea if you're a foreigner. If rotting in Code B for the next 12 months if the 'good fight' to you then that's fine and I'm not a fan of either player but their decision is absurd.


I see no problem with it. At the end of the day they want to become a better gamer and competing in the hardest market most certainly helps. It's their decision you don't have to agree with it, but if they feel like they can compete I say let them. More power to them!
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 04 2013 02:51 GMT
#39
On April 04 2013 11:42 gyad wrote:
It's not like the Koreans HAVE to come to the west. They're just butthurt that they can't win free money in the WCS events. They can still have to the non-WCS events if they want. And even if they wanted to, most of them probably didn't have the money to come anyway. If Blizzard never announced this WCS stuff, 95% of the Koreans would still be playing in Korean tournaments anyway. They're just butthurt that can't play in our tournaments on a whim.

They have fewer tournaments than they did last year because of this change.

Last year they had 5 seasons of GSL, 1 OSL, and 1 WCS. Now they have 3 seasons of GSL and 1 OSL.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 04 2013 02:53 GMT
#40
On April 04 2013 11:49 rename wrote:
what did MC expect ... play three leagues in the same day teleporting from Korea to europe to US in a day ... jeez



His main complaint if you'd actually care to read the translation is that player are 'locked' into Korea by being in Code A/B this season (on the back of WOL play) even though they have no chance to win points and make the regional finals and weren't told in advance and given the option to drop out of Code A/B and play in NA/EU where they would have been able to win points or a spot in the regionals from the start.

For players in Code A/B then a third of the season is basically forfeit on the back of WOL play and with them not being given the option to play in another region.
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