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Tpyro
Profile Joined July 2010
France10 Posts
March 14 2013 21:44 GMT
#41
On March 15 2013 06:39 Exarl25 wrote:
I don't think the article says he is GM in KR. I think it means his name is NoobExplosion, written in Korean. He probably plays on NA


I think so too. There is no mention of which ladder it is in the original article either so I didn't put any in the translation...
Aren't we all just korean wanabe's?
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
March 14 2013 21:44 GMT
#42
This is the most insightful interview from David Kim. Maybe it's because it's paraphrased by Thud.

The most insightful, seriously, because he is not this insightful in other interviews.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 21:46:05
March 14 2013 21:45 GMT
#43
On March 15 2013 06:39 Exarl25 wrote:
I don't think the article says he is GM in KR. I think it means his name is NoobExplosion, written in Korean. He probably plays on NA

Agreed - I think most people are just misreading it and then reading comments and going off that. I don't speak French so maybe the original does say on Korean realm, but as it's translated right now I don't read it the way most people seem to be.
e: well, while I was writing that the translator chimed in, so nevermind about the original
archflames
Profile Joined September 2010
Mexico204 Posts
March 14 2013 21:45 GMT
#44
He's almost obligated to say he's GM with all 3 races otherwise people would scream imbalance towards the race that David Kim is better/worse at.
Beware the rage of a patient man
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 14 2013 21:48 GMT
#45
He said only low level players die to Oracles at the same tournament where a Korean progamer died to Oracles? Is he calling out Dream? :p
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
March 14 2013 21:49 GMT
#46
On March 15 2013 06:45 Insane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 06:39 Exarl25 wrote:
I don't think the article says he is GM in KR. I think it means his name is NoobExplosion, written in Korean. He probably plays on NA

Agreed - I think most people are just misreading it and then reading comments and going off that. I don't speak French so maybe the original does say on Korean realm, but as it's translated right now I don't read it the way most people seem to be.


"son pseudo NoobExplosion écrit en coréen" = his ID NoobExplosion written in korean"
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
March 14 2013 21:52 GMT
#47
On March 15 2013 06:45 archflames wrote:
He's almost obligated to say he's GM with all 3 races otherwise people would scream imbalance towards the race that David Kim is better/worse at.


There is no reason to lie. Anyone found out, the payback is too great to take. Remember Jay Wilson?

Dustin Browder is also in charge of balance but he admits he is Gold.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
March 14 2013 21:54 GMT
#48
The buff to oracle is definitely needed. Oracle now is such a peripheral unit. You don't even need to use them at all.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
March 14 2013 21:59 GMT
#49
On March 15 2013 06:54 larse wrote:
The buff to oracle is definitely needed. Oracle now is such a peripheral unit. You don't even need to use them at all.


Yeah, instead of one beam that kills light units, there are now 3, range increased to 7, base attack doesn't require any energy anymore. Good start, no?

More seriously, I Honestly feel it's harrasement's potential need to be expanded slighty, otherwise I feel like people haven't figured the oracle out properly as a support tool. I haven't seen it a lot.
Pokemon Master
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
March 14 2013 21:59 GMT
#50
On March 15 2013 06:52 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 06:45 archflames wrote:
He's almost obligated to say he's GM with all 3 races otherwise people would scream imbalance towards the race that David Kim is better/worse at.


There is no reason to lie. Anyone found out, the payback is too great to take. Remember Jay Wilson?

Dustin Browder is also in charge of balance but he admits he is Gold.


Blizzard has lied to us many times before though.

Remember how they said they had a team that kept in touch with the mapping community? lol.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 22:03:21
March 14 2013 21:59 GMT
#51
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MuteZephyr
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania448 Posts
March 14 2013 22:03 GMT
#52
On March 15 2013 06:54 larse wrote:
The buff to oracle is definitely needed. Oracle now is such a peripheral unit. You don't even need to use them at all.

I agree with the assessment of the Oracle's state in the game. Currently, it seems as if it's really not a necessary unit, or even very good at high levels.

But I don't think that buffing it is the correct course of action. I think the issues arise from the fact that the unit needs a redesign to feel less gimmicky and bring more to a balanced composition. Unfortunately, the odds of that happening are virtually zero since we're out of beta. I'm worried it'll go the way of the reaper in WoL. Or get too strong from a buff and then get re-nerfed and still go the way of the reaper in WoL.

But, we'll see, I'm hoping it doesn't!
I don't Micro, I FEMTO. That's 9 orders of magnitude more extreme.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 22:05:15
March 14 2013 22:04 GMT
#53
Translator note: The original interview does not specify which server David Kim is GM on.


Did everyone fucking missed that in the text ?
Kim is good enough for GM with 3 races on NA. Korea is doubtfull, but he could really weel be GM with his best race.

On March 15 2013 06:45 archflames wrote:
He's almost obligated to say he's GM with all 3 races otherwise people would scream imbalance towards the race that David Kim is better/worse at.


He said Terran was his worse multiple times.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 14 2013 22:04 GMT
#54
On March 15 2013 06:59 Seiniyta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 06:54 larse wrote:
The buff to oracle is definitely needed. Oracle now is such a peripheral unit. You don't even need to use them at all.


Yeah, instead of one beam that kills light units, there are now 3, range increased to 7, base attack doesn't require any energy anymore. Good start, no?

More seriously, I Honestly feel it's harrasement's potential need to be expanded slighty, otherwise I feel like people haven't figured the oracle out properly as a support tool. I haven't seen it a lot.


If they want to buff it then buffing it's support utility would be the smart way to go about it. I can see why it would wreak havoc when harassing in the lower leagues and further buffs there would be problematic but at pro level it's really hit or miss and I think it will only become less effective as time goes on, at least as an opening. When it gets shut down it gets shut down hard. Almost feels like a coin flip a lot of the time.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
March 14 2013 22:05 GMT
#55
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SuperHarryoBro
Profile Joined October 2012
31 Posts
March 14 2013 22:05 GMT
#56
Why not make the widow mine bomb killable so stalkers can lead and kill it like dragoons and spider mines.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 22:08:11
March 14 2013 22:07 GMT
#57
On March 15 2013 07:03 MuteZephyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 06:54 larse wrote:
The buff to oracle is definitely needed. Oracle now is such a peripheral unit. You don't even need to use them at all.

I agree with the assessment of the Oracle's state in the game. Currently, it seems as if it's really not a necessary unit, or even very good at high levels.

But I don't think that buffing it is the correct course of action. I think the issues arise from the fact that the unit needs a redesign to feel less gimmicky and bring more to a balanced composition. Unfortunately, the odds of that happening are virtually zero since we're out of beta. I'm worried it'll go the way of the reaper in WoL. Or get too strong from a buff and then get re-nerfed and still go the way of the reaper in WoL.

But, we'll see, I'm hoping it doesn't!


You don't need a total redesign to make the unit feel good in design (sound weird, right).

You can increase its speed. Its current speed is not competitive compare to pheonix and the build time is too long, cost is too much.

And the attack range is too short while the damage is too large.

Change some of these aspects will change how the unit work. They may look better, in both harassment and expanding to other roles.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 14 2013 22:10 GMT
#58
On March 15 2013 06:59 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 06:52 larse wrote:
On March 15 2013 06:45 archflames wrote:
He's almost obligated to say he's GM with all 3 races otherwise people would scream imbalance towards the race that David Kim is better/worse at.


There is no reason to lie. Anyone found out, the payback is too great to take. Remember Jay Wilson?

Dustin Browder is also in charge of balance but he admits he is Gold.


Blizzard has lied to us many times before though.

Remember how they said they had a team that kept in touch with the mapping community? lol.


It is so unlikely that they are lying. That is like asking to be called out. You don't lie about something that involves playing against the community you are lying to.

GM with all three races is very good and I am not surprised at all. I find it sort of amusing that he likely plays against the pros that keep calling him a stupid.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
March 14 2013 22:10 GMT
#59
They should fix the economy before touching the units.
T P Z sagi
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
March 14 2013 22:11 GMT
#60
On March 15 2013 07:10 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2013 06:59 Glurkenspurk wrote:
On March 15 2013 06:52 larse wrote:
On March 15 2013 06:45 archflames wrote:
He's almost obligated to say he's GM with all 3 races otherwise people would scream imbalance towards the race that David Kim is better/worse at.


There is no reason to lie. Anyone found out, the payback is too great to take. Remember Jay Wilson?

Dustin Browder is also in charge of balance but he admits he is Gold.


Blizzard has lied to us many times before though.

Remember how they said they had a team that kept in touch with the mapping community? lol.


It is so unlikely that they are lying. That is like asking to be called out. You don't lie about something that involves playing against the community you are lying to.

GM with all three races is very good and I am not surprised at all. I find it sort of amusing that he likely plays against the pros that keep calling him a stupid.

Like how Lucy Bradshaw would never lie about SimCity 5, I mean it makes no sense!
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